
What is it about truly nice guys that makes them unappealing to girls or is that really just a myth that girls love bad boys?


From my own personal experiences with girls’ most of them like a nice guy, but a not so nice guy , meaning he doesn’t constantly kiss her ass , when a guy constantly kisses her ass , that’s a turn off to her for the most part , basically he isn’t a challenge to her , Most girls’ like a guy that she can look up to , not down to. Most girls’ I have dated liked that I was nice to her. but also liked that I didn’t tolerate her shit when she would argue or complain about something and she liked that I didn’t always try to fix her problems. When she was upset about something , but she liked that i listened to her , instead of trying to fix her and make it all better. Girls’ like to hear it’s going to be ok from her man , instead of oh baby let me make things all better for you. To her he sounds like a wimp. Most girls’ like being independent and like being with a guy that is independent as well , that listens to her but doesn’t try to fix her. I can’t tell you how many times a girl has argued with me and complained about things that were out of my control , I would just say , I’m sorry that is happening to you , or I’m sorry you are dealing with that nonsense , but shit happens etc. she would get upset about my comment. and walk away from me , but when she realized it wasn’t my responsibility to resolve her issues. she would eventually jump into my arms and apologize for her behavior. and most times she would want me to have sex with her as well, so it usually turns out that way lol I understand girls’ to a certain extent , but to completely understand a girl is impossible lol Most girls’ that I been with loved that I didn’t chase her , she liked being the chaser instead
Are you talking about actual genuinely nice guys who are just a little socially awkward or are you talking about the trademark “nice guys” who think women owe them something because they do something “nice” for us?
If it’s the latter, yes it’s a turn off, because you think those guys actually care about you but they really care more about dating, fucking or getting attention from you than they actually care about you. They also tend to be controlling. If you mean the former though, I don’t find them unappealing just a little socially awkward. Some of them come across as creepy and over excited but I think that’s because they don’t think “maybe she found it odd when you stuck your whole face right up into hers to get a glimpse of her eye color” and of course nobody tells them it’s odd and creepy, so they keep doing it because they really don’t know
The ‘nice’ guys I disliked were the ones who said they were nice but weren’t actually nice. They might buy you things, take you places or help you in some way but expect something in return. That’s not kindness, that’s an exchange lol. If you do something nice/kind it should be for the sake of not what you might get out of it.
Otherwise some genuinely good guys might be doormats. It’s a fantastic quality to be a good person, a lot of women like that myself included, but you need to have a backbone too. Have boundaries. Don’t let everyone walk all over you.
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You have 3 or 4 different types of guys.
And only a smart girl knows this
You have bad boys. That grew up with out a dad but had man guys in his life and got pick on all the time he hates women. Because he hate his mom we're going out with so many different guys allowing him to get beat up or picked on
Good girls love this type of guy because he's not afraid of anything the sad part is that she won't know he's a women hatter until it's to late
She wanted him because something happen to her when she was younger. And she wants to be protected.. But she's the one that ends up taking thefault p***For whatever happened with his mother and him
Then you have the quiet guy who doesn't say much. Nice guy but doesn't let to many people in he's good in every way and doesn't let anybody else see anything else
But what girls don't know? Is this guy's more of a bad a**Bad boy because he can take care of business with his girlfriend. His wife show her love respect and also a protector and can do anything else? Everything else the girls walked past him because they don't know that part of him
Then you just have the nice guy. That just likes to kiss a** be helpful.
And that's the guy that's girls. Don't really care for too much because that's all you can do.
The second guy looks like the third guy but it's completely different and nobody will know that until he gets pushed into a corner or.
He sees somebody getting picked on that can not protect themselves
But he stays quiet until it's time not to be quiet
There's a lot of girls that miss out on those guys
I’m the quiet guy. You described me perfectly
Even Brandys (beautiful, intelligent professional black women) seem to like Tyrones (Grillz-teethed, swaggering, thuggish, ugly, semi-literate {c}rappers or criminals.)
Let’s say truly nice guys not the fake ones…. Bad women frankly those women are doing those men a favor because it’s better to be alone forever then with a woman whose after that. Trust me…. These women and those bad men get what they deserve later in life.
Are all women bad? The answer is no. Not being attracted to someone doesn’t equate to hating then as a human being. They just aren’t the right one.
Let me tell you something…. After these women have been used up. They want to settle down with a good man, who provides, who protects, who bails her out of all her bad life choices, and then go cheat on him with those same shitbag men. It’s NOT worth it men.
Only women can truly answer this question but I think there is some truth to it for a couple of reasons...
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Growing up, and still to this day, I find bad boys enticing. One of the subjects that came up between my psychologist and I over the years was my taste in men. I would often date a nice-guy after being with a bad-boy, but it always felt like there was something missing. My psychologist made me aware that when growing up I wanted to be with someone who challenged me (and not in the right ways). I loved the chase. If I could get the bad-boy, then somehow in my mind, I had won. It was like being on a rollercoaster. I read this article that described exactly that, stating “It’s like being on an emotional roller coaster—you’re strapped in and ready to go.” This captures both the thrill and the unpredictability of dating someone with unstable, intense emotional patterns. It was like a drug. I found that I had red coloured glasses on during these relationships and was confusing "butterflies" with a "flight" reaction aka my intuition kicking in.
Appreciate the insight 👍
A gal pal said to me "We like nice guys but don't respect them".
In one of the innumerable videos on dating icks, a girl said I ate from his plate and he didn't put me in my place - so no second date.
It is vital that a girl respects a man but the inverse just isn't true. A girl could be a complete air head and it wouldn't matter to me if her other attributes were good.
In fact there are very few people I respect and they have to be better than I am at a skill I respect. Of course skills I respect are masculine in nature because I'm a man.
I think there are evolutionary reasons for women's need to respect a man. They have always been more in a man's hand.
Women still say, without reserve, they want to feel safe with and protected by their man. They see nice guys as less capable in this respect and hence whilst they might like them, don't have respect and won't love them.
@slatyb That is off the point. The girl who made that video was deliberately pushing boundaries to see the reaction. Testing if you like. The guy was nice and let her. In her female brain circuitry there was logic saying "he is letting me push him around, so the whole world will... not a guy to mate with'.
They are bit weird. A girlfriend I was supporting was watching day time TV instead of studying for exams. I was righteously annoyed she wasn't doing her part. I disabled the TV in front of her very eyes and ordered her to go study.
I was expecting a relationship destroying fight but she just toddled off and opened her books. Subsequently she told me she really respected me several times.
Weird. They'll hate being told what to do - 'you're not the boss of me'. But also deeply respect it.
Pretty stupid of her I agree.
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@slatyb @slatyb Certainly depends on the woman. Some react adversely to it being pointed out that that there is an alternative course of action they could take.
But there is a near universal female desire to feel safe and protected by their guy which also means they want their guy to do the aggressive/assertive stuff for the couple and they certainly want to see that.
Good judgement is another leg of this. A nice guy is seen as doing what he is told to where as a bad guy is seen as doing what is optimal. Nice/bad guy is a pretty simplistic divide though.
Sometimes this also means protecting her from her. Women are inclined to do what they first thought of because that is what they first thought of and it may be far from optimal.
I think about this a lot. Because I briefly dated a guy who I described as “too nice” but I don’t think being nice was the problem. The problem was that being nice was his only personality trait. He made me feel cute, but not desired. He gave me little gifts and pats on the head, but he didn’t give me butterflies or a feeling of attraction. I think for me personally, I’m a shy girl, I want a guy to take the lead. I still want a nice kind man, but also a man who ain’t afraid to be assertive. Just because you’re nice doesn’t mean you can’t be assertive and masculine. Again the problem is the guys who are too nice and timid. I would also never go for a “bad boy” or someone who’s too nonchalant or rude or disrespects me.
I think a lot of woman are afraid of being seen with a guy who others might perceive as weak. And it leads to them "testing" the guy until it confirms their bias.
Personally, the moment I feel like a woman is shit testing me she goes into a completely different category. Like she'll probably never know anything truthful about me.
I have to be able to view us as friends, otherwise it will turn into some weird constant power dynamic which is exactly what a relationship is supposed to be about escaping.
I grew up in violence and fighting etc organizations once i embraced being Christian and changing my life a guy i can get violent extremely quick to doing a life sentence but i don't let women see that or i dont treat them like that maybe back in the day a little but its funny these women don’t know its a unnatural persona we take on smh. i show them love of Jesus now and these women really think DM and abuse is game or normal when i was around it as a child also wtf girls. when they go left i go right
It’s the lack of “challenge” that kills the spark
And the lack of boundaries that kills respect
There’s a difference between a nice guy and a good man, even though they sound similar
A nice guy is supplicating, he’s like a mirror, he will reflect back whatever you put in front of it.
His one purpose? Getting you to fall for him
A good man has character, boundaries, his own personality and his own world
And if he likes you he will invite you to step into that world
It will keep you on your toes, teach you new things, show you genuine demonstrations of affection with no expectation
It doesn’t necessarily need to be a “bad boy”
But bad boys tend to be good at this as well hence why they succeed in dating
Nice guys finish last not because women are evil. But because they put themselves last with their actions and behaviors
it is reality, and it has both a psychological and evolutional basis.
psychological: he already gaves everything he has, there is no emotional reaction to be taken from, girls no matter what they say wants having emotional reactions bad or good is irrevelant, anger, fear or sadness is more emotionally situmilating than contentness.
evolutional: they are providers, they lack the dark triad qualities that gives the impression of being strong, females wants strong males to have babies from so their offsprings will be strong too, dark triad traids gives the impression of being strong even if not true for some cases, if you lack them you don't look strong even if you are and impressions is the halfway of every encounter.
I think the problem with being nice is that like you said that shit gets old. I've been the nice guy before and it gets you taken for granted. Same as how we doom scroll on our phone and see funny things but the more we see the more it takes to make us laugh. Nice gets boring. I nice guy can be charming and confident and everything good but it still gets old cause there is never a surprise. Women want to be surprised. If you give anyone nothing but good the good becomes normal but throw some bad in there and shit stays interesting. Balance is key there's times to be good and a time to be bad. Intentions matter more then good and bad a lot of the time in this world it's about knowing that.
The majority of women want drama and problems to deal with. If the man is good to them, loyal, honest, etc. they often find him boring. Also, if the man is too good to her, many women end up cheating, even if they have been together for years.
The majority of women frequently make bad decisions in life repeatedly so don't expect them to choose someone they would be happy with, expect them to choose someone they find "exciting," and by exciting, I mean will have plenty of problems to deal with.
I will say in my life speaking on my experience, it’s true. A lot of women I tried to date weren’t interested because I wasn’t exciting, I wasn’t dangerous, I was too nice, etc, etc. Now that I’m in my 40s, stable, well off financially, a lot of those women I was interested in are still single or single mothers. I’ve had a few try to talk to me again, but it was just a hello, how you been, cool ok I’m out. Me sing I wanted nothing to do w them. I think too a lot of women have been through some trauma w a man so they don’t see a nice man as something normal. If he’s too nice she’s wondering what does he want. This doesn’t feel right. This isn’t like all my past relationships. I think around my early 30s I kind of went off the rails, got drunk a lot, got into a lot of fights, cussed people out, had a DUI. I treated a lot of women like shit, but somehow it got me more ass then any other time in my life.
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Some psychologists believe that women prefer bad boys because it allows them to fuel their inner longing for rebellion and position themselves in a new way.
This is especially true for teenage girls who are trying to free themselves of an innocent image and blossom into an adult.
Truly nice guys are not unappealing. It is a subset of girls/women that like the chance to be a part of excitement that they never experienced.
I feel like nice guys be it truly nice or no... It's become more of a stereotype rather than am actual attribute of a person yk.
Now everyone assumes nice guys are not confident, geeky, probably your average joe, but they'll be loyal to you.
And people asumme bad guys are hot, confident but players at heart and will break your heart.
It's all just made up stereotypes that became popular.
Truth is most people in general will be looking for a partner that's compatible with them yk.
Someone that gets you, respects you, that you feel comfortable with and attracted to, has similar values, makes you smile, is gentle and kind but also knows how to be assertive, takes accountability, knows how to prioritise things and also knows how to be serious when it matters and loyal to their partner and goals.
Some people confuse hard to get with high value.
Also peer selection pressure. A fuckboy is demonstrably desired by many women so women assume that he is high value.
The dark power of atrocity. Psychopaths were often able to eliminate competition during the stone age.
Few things increase a man's desirability among women as much as being ousted as a serial killer rapist.
That said a nice guy can be successful among women like take Jocko Willink for a example but despite of being nice.
Not because of it.
They have zero sex appeal. That’s the problem. No confidence, no manly energy, low testo vibes, no charisma, usually ko style, no nothing except being ”nice”. That gets them in the friendzone. Women do want men who are nice and emotionally intelligent BUT he ALSO have to be manly, confident, charming. There has to be a spark.
Dang! Tell us how you really feel. LOL!
You know how many women who have podcasts that have been exposed for being liars and going against their own words. No one in this world is perfect and as a guy such as myself, women are far from it especially in today’s era with feminism destroying that. There’s a lot of girls and women nowadays that don’t follow God’s words and I can’t trust any female like that. If she’s bitchy, she’s rude, I’m not giving her a chance. There’s a lot of famous guys and men who were ridiculed but the minute they became famous females flocked towards them. How do I know because many male celebrities have said this. Women and girls want the final product, they are impatient. You know when females say, if he can’t handle me at my worse he doesn’t deserve me at my best. Well, to any guy reading this, fellas, if you’re in the middle of changing careers or working hard in school to accomplish something great but you work a shitty low wage job, a true female wants to see her man grow. A guy could have confidence but some females may find that cocky. I really don’t care what females think of me, that’s the true sign of having confidence and me depending on myself I’ll do good things in this world. There are a lot of females who say they want A, B & C in a guy and she’s soo in love with him but I can see through his fake exterior, why? Because I’m a guy I can see these things and sense these things.
@pass_the_celery98 you out here preaching. these women are cold straight up i talk to men she likes that made her say zero sex appeal and they do the opposite that attracts women its a front we have to put on to get a women thats not gonna give a fck about us anyways
i nearly coomed when i saw this opinion!
@Ask105 Listen, many beautiful women in Hollywood are attractive on the outside but ugly on the inside. Eventually, every woman on this planet will lose her youthful looks, and if she's complacent with world issues, doesn't have good morals or ethics, what is she left with? I have to be a firm believer in God and believe in heaven. That if people strive to be a good person no matter how much others put you down and you work hard at your own goals, be proud of yourself. Yes, of course, don't be a pushover in life and stand up for yourself when it is time to fight. But I take what women and girls say these days with a grain of salt. There moods change every day, nothing is good enough. That's why i'm waiting for World War 3, let that bell hit and a lot of feminists who are Miss Strong & Independent will take a step back and say they want to be stay at home mom's. An event like World War 3 will expose many people who act tough and assertive in life from professional athletes to celebrities to beautiful women to scholars who they think know everything. Of course I want peace and justice and guys and girls and men and women to be in loving relationships and for the world economy to flourish, but sometimes this world needs a wake up call to truly change.
To the anonymous poster - what do women nowadays really offer? They think cooking is a form of oppression, they believe marriage is a death sentence by the state, and I have encountered a lot of crazy, bipolar girls, girls with daddy issues from broken homes, girls thinking the outlet of having fun is partying/drinking/fucking other dudes with the slogan "my body my rules". I rarely talk to women or girls because they don't seem interesting. All they rely on for their appeal is wearing a tight top and making a cute face for the Gram, and that's it. If she is in a relationship, she'll have an issue with her boyfriend or husband saying, "don't hang out with these bad friends", or "don't wear that outside", that's not controlling, that's him watching out for her. And it's funny you use the "Spark", I know damn well because I have seen it happen in many relationships. Once that "spark" fizzles in her mind, she'll become distant, and then she'll want to break up and look elsewhere. Guys and men are much more loyal. A guy can dress sharp, smell good, be talkative, ask sound questions, make her laugh, and be fully aware of the geopolitical issues happening in the world but she could still say, ahhhh im not feeling a vibbeee. I don't take what women or girls say seriously anymore. You can call me an incel because that's usually the go-to GAG female response, calling out BS. Still, I have three older sisters and the majority of my family are females, and I have dated Latinas, White's, Asians, Indians, etc I know how the female mind operates. If it's about sex appeal, when you're 72 years old one day, what sex appeal will you have?
That's not "nice" -- that's men who claim to be nice but really are just passive-aggressive. I'm charming to women for some reason -- probably because I'm interested in what they have to say, not just trying to figure how to get into their pants. I'm also nice to everyone, or try to be. "Nice" doesn't mean having no boundaries.
@slatyb in other words, "nice guy" is a euphemism. For a weaktard. Weaktarded men are not sexually attractive.
"Nice guy" label has nothing to do with kindness.
Neither does it have to do with you being a horndog trying to crawl up everyone's skirts. Girls feel a breeding instinct for both horndogs and socially-fucked men (who don't care about women at all) as long as you have the stuff that makes you fertile - usually strong too - the testicle hormones.
Not sure why so many dudes are taking issue with this. This was a pretty balanced and reasonable take
@WhiteBoyChill i know right? I'm still hard and throbbing. no boner-killers yet.
Nice guys generally prefer peace, respect, good things. The whole bad-boy thing is related to chaos. Women need chaos or they get bored. That's why nice guys are always friend zoned or cheated on, but never the love of her life. That love of her life is in jail or dumped her and she's hung up on him still. Assholes will always win at everything over nice guys.
Women want a little drama and a challenge. Dominance. Excitement.
Purely "Nice guys" just don't give them either of those things.
I'm not going to lie, I dated a super nice guy once...we're talking could have lived on Sesame Street, and I found myself thinking about my ex one day and how he physically defended me in a club against some a-hole that tried to touch me inappropriately, and then I thought, could Sesame Street guy have done that? It didn't cause me to break up with him then and there or anything, but the fact I was even thinking about that...eesh, probably wasn't a good sign.
Making everything correctly according to school books isn't charismatic and sign of confidence.. Some guys don't understand that. Especially if they have to say no but they say yes because suggestion of the etiquette says yes is the right thing.
Some guys don't understand girl's egocentric way of thinking and the fact that assertiveness has more value than being always correct
I feel more protected by the bad boy type than the nice guys 👦 because my personal experience being with nice guys I am the one doing the protection not them.
I don't mean every nice guy is like that but there are many who aren't the greatest protectors. There are nice guys that will step up to the plate and protect those they love and protect.
Luckily I did get to experience one man who was very nice and my great protector and that was my late boyfriend.
R. I. P.
Typically the bad boy has certain characteristics that women like. Such as confidence and not being scared to stand for what they believe in. A nice guy is someone who has no strong stance on anything, they lack confidence and they don't stand up for themselves. Its not about being nice or bad it's usually about the traits that these people give off.
Well from what I have read, there are a lot of women who fall for bad guys and wind up abused, mistreated, and sometimes dead. Frankly, I don't get the appeal. Give me a nice guy every time over some lame bad boy.
That's not just a woman thing; that's a people thing. A lot people straight up do NOT appreciate kindness that they haven't directly asked for.
You have to make people work for the kindness and favors you do them. That's a lesson I've had to learn several times throughout life. Don't do anything for anyone that hasn't actually asked you for.
It's simple. No human care much about things they earn easily. Women get more attention than men. So it's obvious that they prefer manly guys over nice guys. Options are plenty for them. Turn the tables and you will see men ignore nice women as well. It's not gender based. It's all about how many options we have to chose and we pick the best.
Nice guys are cool for my sister. But nice guys always finish last. They’re too Polite and nice sweet about everything. Me I’m a bad boy. I don’t give a fuck but I’m definitely gonna show her a good fun time that’s for sure because I’m gonna have myself a good time but at the same time if she don’t like what I’m giving and showing her can go fuck herself..
I don't know, but I don't care to a point. What a great question. I would assume it's probugly a little bit of both. But unfortunately it's probably more towards girls wanting the bad boys
. But i'm sure the numbers are pretty high for girls who don't care or not looking
Her toxicity. There is probably not much if anything wrong with him. But she is not attracted to quality men because she was likely raised in toxicity and it is what is "normal" to her. I always tell guys when these types of women dismiss you, be grateful. She did you a solid. It may not seem like it at the time, but she did.
Women love truly nice guys who genuinely care for others, but have boundaries. They don't love manipulative "nice guys" who think that doing favors unasked will get them laid.
I think ya girls when young seek that bad boy image but older women prob like to be loved respected know that they are safe that the guy has good morals
That is a total myth, and any women on here that say otherwise are almost always men posting under a pink account. That has been a common thing on here for years.
Girls like men for what they can do, your character matters less than if you can save them or provide for them. They will go with Hitler if he's available.
some of the most promiscuous men ever were bad boys
the better question is, why wouldn't any guy want to be a bad boy? is following the rules that society has laid out for you really the way they want to live their life?
Girls don’t like fake nice guys. Truly nice guys are really rare and most of them have partners (whom they don’t cheat on even if tempted).
Bad boys are exciting. Nice guys are safe. Girls don't want a safe person until they're ready to settle down. There's no excitement in safety. Nice guys finish last because girls only look at them when they're ready to get married.
Women like seemingly "tough guys" who they think can somehow "protect" them. This works until someone with a weapon attempts to abduct them or whatever. We no long live in the stone age.
I believe thats only a thing with young or immature girls
I think it’s because they are usually not attractive.
There is a difference between "nice guys" and guys who let people push them around.
Because women can walk all over them. They don't take responsibility for themselves or their relationship. A lot of women want a man who will take ownership so that she doesn't have to.
Girls are stupid, and vapid at the best of times.
Its not a myth. Nice guys are weak. A woman will let a nice hlguy take care of her financially amd she will talk his ear off, but she will cheat on him constantly with bad boys, assholes, and psychopaths.
Nice guys will hold you accountable more than the bad guys. Women are allergic to acting accordingly, it's not rocket science.
If the guy is genuinely nice but boring, a lot of women will be disinterested because of the latter.
Nice guys have no boundaries. They are willing to suffer disrespectful behavior and humiliation and no one respects a person that doesn't respect themselves.
Total myth. Girls want a guy they can use. Aka the “nice guy” whilst she is banging the loser, the “bad guy” the one who will treat her poorly. Girls today have zero clue.
Truly nice guys are too passive and lack the dominant traits girls want - so it's no myth that girls are attracted to bad boys.
That they don't lead the interaction.
They follow the lead and vibe of the woman.
Dominant girls like nice guys, because they are submissive.
However, most girls are not dominant (unfortunately).
That's why guys like me can't find a girlfriend.
5 "pink" responses and an asker and half are obvious men lol
If someone is too immature they aren't attracted to mature qualities
The issue isn’t a dude being an actual nice guy. Its more about the dude being a simp or a pushover
Bad boys have high testosterone that makes them bad. Good guys are softer and may not be appealing to a lot of girls.
If the guy is too nice they feel like he's a push over. If the guy is tough they love them more
I wonder the same thing as you do Why🤔
There is apparently a threshold where a guy can be too nice to the point where he's not really manly enough. I don't think women want to be thrown through a plate glass window and a cigarette put out on their chest by some loser bad boy, but flowers every single day, and always putting us first above all, and perfect with our parents, and the neighbors, and the neighbors dogs, and every living creature on land and sea...maybe doesn't seem realistic (even if people like that exist).
You know it really is your question some thoughts you know I've always I was that nasty guy you know listen my my father and my mother got divorced when I was a young child I didn't hate my mother I love my mother she's the one that took care of me my father treating me like a piece of crap so I learned as I got older you know not to be a dick but you know be the nice guy be somebody that you know is truthful and honest with women and and not treat them like shit I made my mistakes in my marriages and my new relationships but I grew up and I learned that's what you need to do you need to grow up and need to learn that you know a man needs to be a man don't don't be a womanizer don't you know treat them like crap they deserve respect just like we do you know we're all created equally
Are you a man in a pink account?
Nice guys? You mean simps, right?
Too boring I guess
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