Why would a man date a woman who doesn't obey?

[Vegasrunner]

[aaron13547]

Your hand always obeys you... why not just beat your meat with that attitude. i think what makes dating fun is when you don't want to do something, try it anyway for that other person, and find something new you love because of them. If everyone listened to your every command it wouldn't be much fun. I mean how quick do you get sick of beating your meat and start thinking things like "how to get women to obey you" is it because no one wants to give you pussy you need them to obey you? Sure it's fun to have a submissive women but it's even more fun to have one that puts in the same energy and effort as you. That kind of women is a free sprite, not the kind who obeys.

[HawkPerception]

I personally prefer a girl that doesn't necessarily obey, but let's me take the lead. I don't want absolute obedience from a girl. I want her to have faith in my ability to make the right choices and steer us in the right direction. I want her to trust me entirely.

I still want my partner to voice their opinions and desires. I don't want a slave.

[AvaRay]

A real man doesn’t want a woman who obeys, he wants a woman who chooses him..

Obedience feeds control, but partnership thrives on respect..

A queen doesn’t kneel beside a king cause she must but she does it cause they reign together..

[Vegasrunner]

@avaray That's just something society says to make women feel better about themselves. No such thing as a "real man" If a woman doesn't obey, then she's effectively useless to you.

[aceleon]

girl, not that i support that control shit but you are spitting lies here.
1- your idea of a real man is nothing even remotely close to what a real man is. real man aka a man that really acts like a male, with how evolution works manly behavior has nothing to do with respect because in the natural order the manly behavior who gets to pass his genes is the males with dark triad personality traits aka narcissm, machiavelianism and psychopthy.
2- there is no such thing as queen either, kings doesn't have a queen, they have concubines or at least multiple queens and hell no they don't reign together and for a fact queens kneel to kings because they HAVE to or else their heads are forfeit.
please just go with the type of guy i like instead of real man or king crap because neither of the both has nothing to do with what you imagine or want them to be like.

[Justneedtokno]

First this is rage bait and secondly she not a dog. Maybe if you are taking ca

[Anonymous]

because those men are weak men who's only hopes are for women to be disobedient

if she can disobey a strong man, then he'd have a chance with her if he panders enough

that being said, disobedient women are more problematic than disobedient men due to chivalry/traditional male roles still enforced upon even the enforcers themselves

[AgentG111]

Doesn't obey what?

You?

You ever read the Bible? There's your answer.

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 I don't soend time w/ women who don't obey me.

[AgentG111]

Believe if you need a woman to obey you then you best be finding those bible thumpers and cult leaders and followers or have lots of money.

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 If you're speaking of me personally all my women obey because I have respect for myself and wouldn't waste my time with a women who wouldn't Obey. Do you not respect yourself?

[AgentG111]

I have the utmost respect for myself and other humans until they give me the understanding they don't.
So you only allow those women who obey you to be around you?

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 Are you saying you don't provide and protect for your women?

[AgentG111]

Didn't say that at all. Re read my answer and read my question

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 How do you protect someone who doest obey?

[AgentG111]

Obey me? Define this obey you are dead set on?

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 You don't know the definition of a word you're arguing against?

[AgentG111]

You know VR you must be in complete denial of your own existence.
Enjoy what ever mental illness that you are 100 percent entranced in!
Good Luck

[Vegasrunner]

@AgentG111 You don't need luck to get your women to obey, just keep working on improving yourself and it will happen

[Twalli]

Because I don't want a woman who won't voice her opinions and views.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Men don't really care about women's opinions as they live a much easier life and don't genuinely understand how the world works.

[Twalli]

Mysygony

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Are you attempting to make the argument that men get together and brag about the intelligence of women?

[Twalli]

No, I'm saying that the belief that "Men don't really care about women's opinions as they live a much easier life and don't genuinely understand how the world works." is misogynistic.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Ah then you don't know the definition of misogynistic.

[Twalli]

You honestly think women don't know how the world works and have an easier life. Tell me how long have you been a woman?

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Great question. Yes, but tbf I don't think children understand how the world works either and they share similar brains. Same way we tell children that a fat man slides down their chimney every year to bring gifts, we tell women that a man who is 6'5 w/ muscles, perfect teeth, great hair, makes 7 figures, has a great personality, loves animals, and is college educated, is only going to want them. Because of this women tend to live in delusion, this is why questions like this triggers guys like you because deep down you realize it's true, you just don't like it. The best example of this is dating apps. Did you know that men make up about 80% of all subscribers on dating apps? Why do you think this is? Woman then use that as a way to validate their worth, when 500 guys DM them instead of thinking that it's because they think they can get laid we tell them dumb shit like it's because of their personality. I could go on and on, the world has always been like that the difference now is that we try to convince woman that everyone's equal so we won't tell them the truth.

[Twalli]

You are like this and tell womrn this, making them think all men are like this, not realizing that a man will wait for sex. I dated my girlfriend exclusively for 6 months before we had sex.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Actually women know most men are like you, which is why they will try to do things like make you wait. The same girl you wait 6 months to bang, i bang on the first date.

[Twalli]

She wanted me on our second date.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Lol, this is the perfect example of wanting to right so bad that you let the truth get in the way. Notice how it's important for you to let the audience know this woman "wanted" you on your second date. If that's true that proves that men and women can't be platonic friends.

[Twalli]

None of my other female friends expressed sexual interest in me.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli How are you not understanding this? They haven't expressed interest in you because you've proven men don't want to be friends with women. If they could it would not matter whether they expressed intrest or not.

[Twalli]

I'm friends with them. So clearly I do. I don't have to be friends, if I don't want to.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Lol, you're making the argument that you can be friends with a woman but the second a woman expressed the she had interest in you, you dropped the friends act and directed to bang her.

[Twalli]

No, I actually didn't know she wanted me until I asked her out.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli You're arguing that you can be platonic friends with a women by telling me that you've entered into non platonic relationships with your female friends?

[Twalli]

Actually only one. I can't speak for all my female friends, but I don't find the majority attractive. So we're platonic friends

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Lol, this may be the funniest thing I've heard. Your female friends are ugly so you're friends with them the one friend that was attractive you got with. How are you not understanding this?

[Twalli]

Not really. Of my current female friends (not counting my girlfriend) a few are attractive. Some are married and others were dating someone before we became friends. Of those that were single, I've only been attracted to two. I don't pursue married women or those that are in a relationship. Unlike you, I actually respect women.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Doesn't sound like you respect them at all. You pretend to be friends, hoping one day it will turn into something more.

[Twalli]

Not really. I wasn't considering dating either one when we became friends.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli that's obviously not true because you started dating them it's an old trick a lot of beta makes use. Pretend to be friends with the girl, in the hopes she eventually settles for them.

[Twalli]

Yeah, some guys do that. I didn't.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli You literally did. You started out as friends and then the second you saw an opening you decided to exploit it. Lot of beta's do this because they are scared of rejection.

[Twalli]

Actually, I didn't know if she was in a relationship when I asked her out. I was relatively sure she wasn't, but I didn't know for sure.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Has nothing to do with the statement.

[Twalli]

We were friends, I liked her. I decided to take a shot, not knowing her relationship status. Turns out she was single and waiting for me to ask her out (she turned down 3 guys during out friendship, before I asked her out).

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli This only proves you were never friends. If you were truly friends you would have never asked her out.

[Twalli]

So it's impossible to be friends with someone you want to date?

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Platonically yes. That's literally the point of the discussion. Like most men, you're using the pretext of "friends" to get close enough to a woman in the hopes that one day they will want you. This allows you to shield yourself from rejection.

[Twalli]

Actually I didn't consider dating her when we became friends. That happened later.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli You keep saying that and ir only discredits your statement. Your male friends you never dated, because they were your actual friends, your female friends are simply girls you hadn't figured out how to bang. Guys do this all the time not sure why you're lying to yourself.

[Twalli]

No, it's because I'm not attracted to guys. As for my female friends, I've only been sexually attracted towards two, and that wasn't why we became friends.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Lol. You are the most ironic person ever on GAG. The entire point is that men aren't friends w/ women because they don't provide anything. You literally keep proving my point. You leverage your "friendship" with women to get girlfriends. I don't think that's a bad idea at all I'm just confused as to what you're attempting to argue.

[Twalli]

I don't make friends to get girls.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli Yet that's where your girlfriend have come friend. Would you be offended if I show this conversation to my clients?

[Twalli]

I don't make female friends based on looks. The fact that I find 2 sexual appealing is a coincidence.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli No it's a trend

[Twalli]

I have more than 2 female friends. So, most of them, I don't find physically attractive.

[Vegasrunner]

@Twalli that's because they're fat.

[Twalli]

Not all.

[Anonymous]

Only a real man is worth obeying.

[Vegasrunner]

That's just something society says to brainwash inexperienced women.

[Opinion Owner]

Its true.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Nah, it's just a convient way for woman to escape responsibility.

[Opinion Owner]

If a woman isn't obeying you of her own volition then he's a weak man she doesn't respect or feel sexual attraction to.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner That could be true. I wouldn't know, as all my women obey.

[Anonymous]

Maybe he likes dominant girls ;)

[Vegasrunner]

@anonymous No such thing. How many women have you had sex with?

[Opinion Owner]

There are dominant girls, I actually know several of them.
0 (Zero) - As if you didn't know that already :P

[Opinion Owner]

In fact, there are girls who would dominate you too ;)

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner How could a woman dominate a man. The only men who think like that haven't been with any women.

[Opinion Owner]

She can do it easily, if she is dominant and attractive enough, and of course, if the guy likes to be dominated by hot girls.
Naturally, some girls go to the gym, and are quite strong, and some girls practice martial arts, so it's even easier for them to dominate a man.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner If that is the case why is there a WNBA?

[Opinion Owner]

Because women play basketball too.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner If some girls could dominate a man why do they need a seoerate league should they have the chance to compete against men in the NBA?

[Opinion Owner]

On average, men are taller than women, that's one of male biological advantages, and that's probably one of the reasons why women have WNBA.
But women did compete in some sports against men, and actually won, for example:
Pam Reed defeated men in ultra-marathon.
Billie Jean King defeated a man in tennis.
Jackie Nava defeated a man in amateur boxing.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion owner Then why do we have Softball, Women's Tennis, women's boxing etc? If they are equal shouldn't there be one standard. Also did you know that the 200th ranked mens tennis player beat Serena Williams after a night of partying and played w/ a hangover?

[Opinion Owner]

Because not all the women are supreme sportswomen. There should be a mixed gender league.
Serena is no match for Billie Jean King.
Besides, how would you know that guy had a night of partying and hangover? Do you know him?