God no. There's a old joke were a man asks a zoo to climb a tree to pass the your smart test , well clearly animals that swim are dumb then right? No there not, we just can't fit everyones need in schools. Especially in colleges
Have you ever been assessed for neurodiversity conditions like ADD or autism?, the way you write indicates you are really smart but traditional learning environments aren't suitable for you?,,,
Yep me as well, I have a clinical diagnosis of Aspergers and on a waiting list for assessment for ADD/inattentive ADHD, these things weren't really known about and certainly not understood very well when I was at school, left in 1980 by the way, I eventually graduated with the OU, are you in any support groups at all? I'm in a great one for autism, but they welcome ADD as well,
oh, i bet it was very challenging for you back in 1970s. I never attended any support groups but i may if it really helps, i was on medication for 2 years and finally Im doing better but i still have issued with not getting distracted by literally everything
Thanks, yes it was a struggle often, spent most of my spare time on my own, in some ways it was easier than it would be today as life was so much simpler, only 3 TV channels for example, and easier to concentrate as there were far less distractions,,,
All school is good for is seeing if you can kiss ass and regurgitate information, true or not, that the system wrote. True intelligence is the ability to adapt and survive, things school does not teach you
They're a good indicator of intelligence + conscientiousness. An intelligent, but lazy student isn't going to get good grades, and neither will a conscientious, but stupid student.
It also depends somewhat on subject. When it comes to maths and sciences, intelligence is far more important than conscientiousness. That's why you have the "lazy genius" types that excel in maths and sciences while not doing as well in other subjects. I've had a few friends like that. On the other hand, the "hard-working ditzy" types can often get by in literature and history, where intelligence isn't as important as simply being able to absorb the information and do the work, despite how boring it is.
Nope. So many top students flounder in life. Smartest person I knew didn’t graduate High School. Anyway, I run rings around people who were great students. They are better at spelling, grammar and a bunch of other non-money or value producing skills but I am great with money, which is a much more rare trait and one that is highly valued. I find most people are a bit dim compared to the ones who dal with large sums of money.
Not really sure tbh my friends say it doesn’t mean your dumb or smart and some people say it does... all I know is I suck at school not sure why but I always get just passing grades never anything higher
Na. My best friend is just like you. Based on the grades he got others would call him dumb but they weren't spending everyday with him like me. Dude is avg. He just never did his stuff I don't know why.
No. Not at all. I had a 14/20 average in school because I knew that was all I meed to get the degree I wanted. I never killed myself studying something I didn't like just to get a better average. Heck. I've left tests blank cause I was to bored to do anything on them. Yet. i had people in my class with straight 18—20 grades. But they can't grasp concepts that are some to me. They just memorized stuff for the tests. So no... Grades don't mean you're intelligent
No definitely not. I even think this about college, just because someone has a degree doesn't mean they are smart
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Partly yes, but it doesn’t measure all types of intelligence, usually only one. Also, it’s also partly a reflection of work ethic too. An intelligent person could be lazier, or a less intelligent person could be more dedicated.
In psychology it's a less practical thing to witness if you have something called a "ceil effect", like you can't tell who of those "best ones" was better than the other. And since we seem to have that in our country (Germany) I'm glad that they finally understood that grades ain't tell you everything.
Not really... they only measure your ability to remember certain things to regurgitate later... i have a cousin with a phd from UCLA and that bitch can hardly change a light bulb... driving forget about it because she can't park...
I wouldn't say so. The way grades are handled means you don't need to understand what your talking about as long as you can parrot the right phrase. a lot of A students i knew had no idea of the subjects they just know "the text book says this"
Definitely not. School is very badly designed, doesn't fit every individual, and even causes problems such as a lack of attention and motivation. Primary school is less of a bummer, but highschool is just terrible.
Well, intelligence won't gain cash flow.. I was the opposite in school. I didn't pay attention, but still scored well. It's all about education! You seem to be on the right path.
How fast and easy you learn new things is definitely an indicator of intelligence. However, grades are also affected by other things, like not questioning teachers etc.
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God no. There's a old joke were a man asks a zoo to climb a tree to pass the your smart test , well clearly animals that swim are dumb then right? No there not, we just can't fit everyones need in schools. Especially in colleges
Have you ever been assessed for neurodiversity conditions like ADD or autism?, the way you write indicates you are really smart but traditional learning environments aren't suitable for you?,,,
I have ADHD and i can’t focus for too long, i’d often get scolded for standing up in the class or movibg on my chair
Yep me as well, I have a clinical diagnosis of Aspergers and on a waiting list for assessment for ADD/inattentive ADHD, these things weren't really known about and certainly not understood very well when I was at school, left in 1980 by the way, I eventually graduated with the OU, are you in any support groups at all? I'm in a great one for autism, but they welcome ADD as well,
oh, i bet it was very challenging for you back in 1970s. I never attended any support groups but i may if it really helps, i was on medication for 2 years and finally Im doing better but i still have issued with not getting distracted by literally everything
Thanks, yes it was a struggle often, spent most of my spare time on my own, in some ways it was easier than it would be today as life was so much simpler, only 3 TV channels for example, and easier to concentrate as there were far less distractions,,,
All school is good for is seeing if you can kiss ass and regurgitate information, true or not, that the system wrote. True intelligence is the ability to adapt and survive, things school does not teach you
They're a good indicator of intelligence + conscientiousness. An intelligent, but lazy student isn't going to get good grades, and neither will a conscientious, but stupid student.
It also depends somewhat on subject. When it comes to maths and sciences, intelligence is far more important than conscientiousness. That's why you have the "lazy genius" types that excel in maths and sciences while not doing as well in other subjects. I've had a few friends like that. On the other hand, the "hard-working ditzy" types can often get by in literature and history, where intelligence isn't as important as simply being able to absorb the information and do the work, despite how boring it is.
Nope. So many top students flounder in life. Smartest person I knew didn’t graduate High School. Anyway, I run rings around people who were great students. They are better at spelling, grammar and a bunch of other non-money or value producing skills but I am great with money, which is a much more rare trait and one that is highly valued. I find most people are a bit dim compared to the ones who dal with large sums of money.
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Not really sure tbh my friends say it doesn’t mean your dumb or smart and some people say it does... all I know is I suck at school not sure why but I always get just passing grades never anything higher
Not really no. Grades are more to show your effort towards learning not your ability to learn. in my opinion anyways.
Na. My best friend is just like you. Based on the grades he got others would call him dumb but they weren't spending everyday with him like me. Dude is avg. He just never did his stuff I don't know why.
No. Not at all. I had a 14/20 average in school because I knew that was all I meed to get the degree I wanted. I never killed myself studying something I didn't like just to get a better average. Heck. I've left tests blank cause I was to bored to do anything on them.
Yet. i had people in my class with straight 18—20 grades. But they can't grasp concepts that are some to me. They just memorized stuff for the tests. So no... Grades don't mean you're intelligent
No definitely not. I even think this about college, just because someone has a degree doesn't mean they are smart
Partly yes, but it doesn’t measure all types of intelligence, usually only one. Also, it’s also partly a reflection of work ethic too. An intelligent person could be lazier, or a less intelligent person could be more dedicated.
Sometimes. My sister is brilliant but put in only as much effort as needed to get through high school.
In psychology it's a less practical thing to witness if you have something called a "ceil effect", like you can't tell who of those "best ones" was better than the other. And since we seem to have that in our country (Germany) I'm glad that they finally understood that grades ain't tell you everything.
I believe it reflects more on being well disciplined enough to attain good grades.
My niece is resourceful & hard working. She gets good grades for her efforts. Yet, she's dumb as a doorknob.
Thats not necessarily the case some could make a argument that the ones with the best grades in school are those who find ways to cheat the system
Not really... they only measure your ability to remember certain things to regurgitate later... i have a cousin with a phd from UCLA and that bitch can hardly change a light bulb... driving forget about it because she can't park...
I wouldn't say so. The way grades are handled means you don't need to understand what your talking about as long as you can parrot the right phrase. a lot of A students i knew had no idea of the subjects they just know "the text book says this"
Naah, it's so easy to just copy someone or steal a test and have good grades.
Definitely not.
School is very badly designed, doesn't fit every individual, and even causes problems such as a lack of attention and motivation.
Primary school is less of a bummer, but highschool is just terrible.
Well, intelligence won't gain cash flow.. I was the opposite in school. I didn't pay attention, but still scored well. It's all about education! You seem to be on the right path.
How fast and easy you learn new things is definitely an indicator of intelligence. However, grades are also affected by other things, like not questioning teachers etc.