How is college like in countries outside of America?

[doopayo]

I’m wondering cause if I go to college I definitely don’t want to go to college in the US, so I’m wondering which countries outside the US have the best schools with scholarship opportunities?

I want to narrow down which college to go to now so I can prepare

[Blackcupcake]

I'm not sure how the American colleges work since you guys have universities as well but is it different or the same thing?

Here in Sweden we have universities and the system is great once you get in, but it can be hard to get in depending on what it is you want to study because you have to have a certain number of merits for each program... you get those merits from high school so the program you study and your grades in high school are extremely important for getting into university... and that's why you're kinda "expected" to know what career path you want to pursue before applying for high school cause the program you study there will determine which programs you can apply for in university.
But you can take extra classes and stuff if you don't have the "required qualifications" for the program you want to study in university, it just takes a longer time which is why it's best to choose your program in high school wisely.

But once you get in, it is nice. At my university, we do one course at a time or you'll have two courses simultaneously, not more. That is because each course is very deep and the speed of learning that is expected is quite intense so taking many classes at once would definitely not work. For example in this current course that I'm studying we have 4 different thick text books that I have to finish in 6 weeks time...
Once each course is finished, you'll have a course exam on EVERYTHING you've learned in those 6 weeks.
The length of one course could be one full semester, 1/2 semester or 1/4 semester... so my course now is 1/4 semester long.
There are also other exam methods such as reports, presentations, seminars etc.

The grading system varies depending on the program... some programs have the typical A-F system but my program has U or G which stand for fail or pass only.

[SpiderManFan2002]

Well I’m in England, and I’ve just started university- it’s pretty good, we have lots of facilities, my lecturers are good, it’s way cheaper in England as well- but it may cost a more for you, than it does for me because you’d count as an international student. What are you thinking of studying sis?

[doopayo]

I’m looking into studying for either a business degree or one in psychology

[Neosporin]

blegh boring. Both business and psychology are better in the US well finance maybe good in England but pure business would be better in US I think. As for psychology well I don't know.

[goaded]

£14,000 a year tuition, for foreign students, independent of your citizenship - you have to have lived in the UK for the previous three years for the UK rate (£9000). (My daughter just started uni over there.)

[abc3643]

There are some excellent schools in Canada. McGill University in Montréal, the University of Toronto, and University of Waterloo in Waterloo Ontario are 3 that stick out in my mind.

In Canada, Maclean's is an outstanding news magazine like Time, Newsweek, or US News and World Report in the USA. Maclean's does a yearly analysis of Canadian colleges like US News does and that may help you.

But, the nice thing about Canada is that it is considerably like the US and not far so it's easy to travel home, but it is definitely a different and distinctive society - especially in French Canada (Québec). (McGill University is an English-language school in French-speaking Montréal, Québec.)

Let me know if you have any questions.

What do you want to major in?

[doopayo]

Either business or psychology

[abc3643]

Well, you are VERY lucky! Just this past week, Macleans did their yearly rankings.

Here is one example - the rankings for business programs:
Canada's best university business programs: 2022 rankings
The 20 top-ranking schools for business programs in Canada
By Maclean's
October 7, 2021
www.macleans.ca/.../

There is nothing separate for psychology, but they do have nursing, education, computer science, and engineering. So, here is the list by reputation aka "Best Overall" :
Canada's best universities by reputation: Rankings 2022
We surveyed university faculty and senior administrators, as well as a variety of business people across the country, asking for their views on quality and innovation at Canadian universities
By Maclean's
October 7, 2021
www.macleans.ca/.../

This page has all the rankings and the methodology
www.macleans.ca/tag/2022-university-rankings/

[abc3643]

I do want to say something important though...
If you plan on majoring in business, consider remaining in the US for that because how business is conducted in other nations will be slightly but importantly different than in the US. This is primarily because the laws and the authorities applicable to the business world are different among nations.

[goaded]

The UK's not cheap, but you get to speak English. There are tuition-free universities in various EU countries. Australia and New Zealand might be worth a look, too.

https://www.dw.com/en/free-tuition-in-germany-not-attractive-for-all-foreigners/a-37711964
https://uscollegeinternational.com/2018/09/08/tuition-free-universities-europe/

[TsundereMatrix]

Canada always welcomes international students. Actually international students are so welcome that Canadian citizens sometimes have a tough time enrolling. My family friend had trouble enrolling into chiropractic schools here so she ended up going to America for college.

[t-8900]

European Universities will probably offer the best experiences for people the world over. The USA has a lot to learn about how to treat it's student bodies.

[lovedejj_xo]

Cheaper I’m sure my college debt after grad school was about 70k

[doopayo]

That’s really good. My moms 45 and still paying off a bunch of student loans :(

[lovedejj_xo]

Luckily my mom is 45 as well she has finished paying off her student loans

[tatianamay]

EU universities are amazing.

I live in India, and im planning to go to med school here, medical schools are amazing here, but EU unis are better

[224466881010]

I don't know about scholarships opportunities, but Canada has some very good quality education as well. If you have Canadian relatives that could help a lot.

[doopayo]

I have a few Canadian relatives but I’m not close to them and they’re kind of bad people but I agree Canada is a good option too

[Neosporin]

How Canada any better than America? They're almost the exact same

[224466881010]

I don't know man. It's a bit of a meme in Canadian society, but a lot of people laugh at Americans for not knowing things like basic geography and world history.

It seems that the American public system is terrible but the private system has some gems, like ivy league schools for example.

[Neosporin]

American colleges are good. Grade school sucks I agree.

[Neosporin]

College in China is good. Maybe ok in Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore. Asian countries are awesome. Those are the only good countries other than America.

[Neosporin]

@doopayo @Alyssa11 did you downvote me?

[Alyssa11]

I don’t down vote im not passive aggressive. I say what’s on my mind with no hesitation.

[doopayo]

I didn’t down vote

[MoodyJazz]

Don't worry i upvoted you to balance it out haha

[Neosporin]

@MoodyJazz aww thank you 🙈

[TacosRAwesome]

I'm from Malta and we have a decent enough university. Most classes are done in English and country is mostly safe to live in.

[shepardmaddison]

In Europe it's way cheaper, good quality but not that spectacular

[doopayo]

I’d rather go cheap. My moms 45 and still paying off a bunch of student loans

[Joeshamo]

@doopayo I’m poor so the financial aid is paying for the whole thing. Other wise I would’ve went to trade school.

[doopayo]

@Joeshamo that’s good to know! Is the financial aid difficult to get though?

[Joeshamo]

@doopayo no, in my state it’s easy to get the financial aid cause the city is so expensive. So most people are dirt broke. A guy at my job got his whole 4 year degree debt free and didn’t have to use any scholarships to get it. His financial aid paid for the whole thing. They have a scholarship for low income families, but if you use it you have to work for 4 years or they ask you to pay them back. Some people get paid to go to school with financial aid, but only at public institutions though.

[doopayo]

That’s nice. In America it’s really hard to get aid, you have to be literally dirt poor or they aren’t going to help with anything.

[Joeshamo]

Yeah. The rent in my city is crazy expensive. 2500 for a crappy apartment with roaches. I’m just staying till college is done and I’m leaving.

[Joeshamo]

@doopayo oh and I forgot to mention some rich parents will disowned their child, so they will qualify for financial aid. I know that’s real scumy. Cause they already have the means to pay for it.

[dustybiker]

The controversial Michael Moore did a doc on this a few years back. Went into depth. Might want to check it out for research.

[SmokinAces2000]

I believe Germany has some of the best colleges and also why do you want to go to college in a whole different country?

[doopayo]

Because my mom says college in America’s bad

[SmokinAces2000]

I wouldn’t say they are bad but there are definitely way better colleges in other countries

[Neosporin]

college in america is great it's the basic education that's bad. Where did your mom get her facts? From her butt?

[msc545]

My understanding is you can go to college for free in Germany. I'm not sure what they want in return for that but I would definitely check into it if I were you.

[AdithyaR]

I'm in India and there are some really good college here.

[Twalli]

Even though we are not #1 in education, we are in college level education

[Alyssa11]

In the UK it’s very very hard lol.

[Neosporin]

UK is dumb

[doopayo]

How come

[Neosporin]

just my opinion as an Asian American sorry. I'm sure it's ok for some people but I'm not a fan of it personally.

[Alyssa11]

Okay but you do realise we have some of the worlds best educational institutions...

[Neosporin]

Ok but so does america no need to move @doopayo

[doopayo]

American colleges don’t offer real world experience and have horrible student loans that have Americans unable to pay them off for years

[Alyssa11]

Yes tuition fees are the same for all unis here. Less discriminatory than the US and more exclusive

[Alyssa11]

Inclusive * lol

[_no_one_]

It just sucks as much.

[Babygirl_S]

It's fun. I miss being in college.

[Neosporin]

we all got to grow up someday

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Much MUCH cheaper!

[mynameisiremm]

Very good in Turkey

[mynameisiremm]

Boğaziçi University, Hacettepe University, Koç University very good

[EaterPeter]

Great.