Your right, it was really unfortunate for star wars fans to see that. I agree with everything you said. But in the end, who cares, it was only a movie. I know everyone is tired of this being politically correct culture where we have to show women as being superb to men in every way but whatever. can't we just enjoy the movie and fuck all the politics.
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i think you're taking it a little bit too seriously. usually when i go to a movie, i look for entertainment and not sexism. sure, it may be that way, but who gives a fuck? don't be a bitch. i'd rather her do all that shit than sit through all the exposition, complex and muddled political subplots.
The problem is, it isn't just entertainment, it goes to popular mindset. A mindset that says "equality=women can do everything man can do without even having to learn it."
ok, sure... that may be. but I DON'T CARE!!! you know what this is? this is the same type of shit you have to deal with in English class. like when the teacher asks you was that mole on the tertiary character's left ass cheek symbolizes. i don't care. i'm trying to enjoy the book (in this case, movie), not say what it says about society. if you want it to be realistic, don't watch a fucking movie about aliens, lightsabers, space ships that travel the speed of light and empires across galaxies that don't actually exist. that's like trying to find logic in a cartoon. a cartoon can literally have anything it wants to have in it. it doesn't need to be realistic because you can draw every conceivable thing ever to be thought of.
That is one of the few theories that even begins to make sense. Only the Skywalker lineage would be so innately attuned to the Force so as to pick up its ways with so little instruction. That, or Abrams wants us to believe that Rey is somehow a new Chosen One, without anything being presented to us to help us understand how that could be.
Yet, having Rey pick up so soon basically creates huge discontinuity with the prequels. With the original trilogy, her fast pace is forgivable. After all, Luke achieves an awful lot with bare minimum training and exposure. Still... having her become better than Obi-Wan out of nowhere, I agree, means feminism has jumped the shark.
@ObscuredBeyond It has nothing to do with feminism, LoL, it has to do with popularising Star Wars among female viewers... all for the profit ;) I think Rey is Luke's daughter, there are some similarities between them, so that theory is the most realistic, it explains why she is so talented for fighting and piloting, it's all in the genes :D
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Episode 7 was a mess. They clearly didn't understand star wars. It just seemed like random scenes put together without any memorable moments other than the kylo and han solo scene.
The rey and Kylo fight was so bad. kylo's character was also so bad. Everything was really bad with this movie. its great because its star wars and episode 7 but not impressed at all.
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Jango Fett was a fierce and dangerous bounty hunter, and his son even better when he took up his father's helmet.
Obi-Wan also hates flying, and he thinks flying is purely for droids.
anyways, I'm not taking a stance because I haven't watched Star Wars yet lol. If you compare Obi-Wan's character in his other line of work though, like the Clone Wars animation, he is very impressive.
No other character in the history of Star Wars is as OP'd as Rey. I would say this even if Rey was a dude. All the greatest fighters of the Star Wars saga have had their asses' handed to them at least once at the very beginning of their journeys. She literally does a Neo (see Matrix) at the climax of the movie.
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Actually if you read the books (which came out before Lucas sold out to Disney) there were two TWINS, one male and one female. I didn't see the movie yet, but it sounds like they just kind of did away with the boy, in favor of the girl. Sounds pretty feminist to me!
Kylo Ren was severely injured when he fought Rey. Chewey shot him in the leg with his bowcaster which usually just blows limbs off. Finn did scrape him a bit during their scuffle. And he was never fighting to kill her. There were a few moments when he could have taken her down but he chose not to because he wanted to turn her. Plus there's theories on why Rey quickly picked up on the force and is skilled with a lightsaber.
"Can we see the feminism and grrrll power at work here?"
Ok, no. Kylo Ren was fucking weak. Should have kept his helmet on!! He's not fit to be sith. Even his master called him in to complete his training. Rey is a more accomplished fighter because of how she grew up. I'm sure there were plenty of marauders trying to steal her stuff.
Also, she one of the few actresses who didn't fight "like a girl."
I think it's just because the writing sucks. Besides, her father was a farmboy who got entirely too skilled entirely too quickly. These movies have always sucked, let's be honest.
I guess they were trying to make it more diverse. But you really got your point across. You've also got a point about the absurdity of the "cute" part. If she were ugly, the theatres would probably be empty (though that isn't what this take's about).
This is just my guess, bit I think Rey is a Skywalker, remember hpw fast Luke went from farmboy to hero of the rebellion? Luke abandoned "everything" when he was betrayed...
Kylo Ren was severely injured by that crossbow blast, but yeah she was way too skilled with that lightsaber and flying. Blame the director for all that.
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Your right, it was really unfortunate for star wars fans to see that. I agree with everything you said. But in the end, who cares, it was only a movie. I know everyone is tired of this being politically correct culture where we have to show women as being superb to men in every way but whatever. can't we just enjoy the movie and fuck all the politics.
Judging by this latest star wars, no, we can't. It will be forced into popular movies and every aspect of mainstream media.
WHY THE HELL DID YOU NAME YOURSELF AFTER DIE HARD FILM THAT CENSOR JOHN MCLANES LINE
i think you're taking it a little bit too seriously. usually when i go to a movie, i look for entertainment and not sexism. sure, it may be that way, but who gives a fuck? don't be a bitch. i'd rather her do all that shit than sit through all the exposition, complex and muddled political subplots.
The problem is, it isn't just entertainment, it goes to popular mindset. A mindset that says "equality=women can do everything man can do without even having to learn it."
ok, sure... that may be. but I DON'T CARE!!! you know what this is? this is the same type of shit you have to deal with in English class. like when the teacher asks you was that mole on the tertiary character's left ass cheek symbolizes. i don't care. i'm trying to enjoy the book (in this case, movie), not say what it says about society. if you want it to be realistic, don't watch a fucking movie about aliens, lightsabers, space ships that travel the speed of light and empires across galaxies that don't actually exist. that's like trying to find logic in a cartoon. a cartoon can literally have anything it wants to have in it. it doesn't need to be realistic because you can draw every conceivable thing ever to be thought of.
The Force is very strong in her, even Kylo Ren sensed that... she is probably Luke's daughter... that's why she is naturally talented.
That is one of the few theories that even begins to make sense. Only the Skywalker lineage would be so innately attuned to the Force so as to pick up its ways with so little instruction. That, or Abrams wants us to believe that Rey is somehow a new Chosen One, without anything being presented to us to help us understand how that could be.
Yet, having Rey pick up so soon basically creates huge discontinuity with the prequels. With the original trilogy, her fast pace is forgivable. After all, Luke achieves an awful lot with bare minimum training and exposure. Still... having her become better than Obi-Wan out of nowhere, I agree, means feminism has jumped the shark.
@ObscuredBeyond It has nothing to do with feminism, LoL, it has to do with popularising Star Wars among female viewers... all for the profit ;)
I think Rey is Luke's daughter, there are some similarities between them, so that theory is the most realistic, it explains why she is so talented for fighting and piloting, it's all in the genes :D
Episode 7 was a mess. They clearly didn't understand star wars. It just seemed like random scenes put together without any memorable moments other than the kylo and han solo scene.
The rey and Kylo fight was so bad. kylo's character was also so bad. Everything was really bad with this movie. its great because its star wars and episode 7 but not impressed at all.
Jango Fett was a fierce and dangerous bounty hunter, and his son even better when he took up his father's helmet.
Obi-Wan also hates flying, and he thinks flying is purely for droids.
anyways, I'm not taking a stance because I haven't watched Star Wars yet lol. If you compare Obi-Wan's character in his other line of work though, like the Clone Wars animation, he is very impressive.
plus, no one does it better than bounty hunters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdbajvVROjc
No other character in the history of Star Wars is as OP'd as Rey. I would say this even if Rey was a dude. All the greatest fighters of the Star Wars saga have had their asses' handed to them at least once at the very beginning of their journeys. She literally does a Neo (see Matrix) at the climax of the movie.
Actually if you read the books (which came out before Lucas sold out to Disney) there were two TWINS, one male and one female. I didn't see the movie yet, but it sounds like they just kind of did away with the boy, in favor of the girl. Sounds pretty feminist to me!
jacen and jaina, the twins. one mechanic, one mini zookeeper. and little annie and tahiri.
Yes that rings a bell.
LUKE and LEIA... REN and REY... hmnmmmm
Kylo Ren was severely injured when he fought Rey. Chewey shot him in the leg with his bowcaster which usually just blows limbs off. Finn did scrape him a bit during their scuffle. And he was never fighting to kill her. There were a few moments when he could have taken her down but he chose not to because he wanted to turn her. Plus there's theories on why Rey quickly picked up on the force and is skilled with a lightsaber.
Rey is totally lukes daughter
@Waffles731 I think she's Lukes clone.
You are both wrong. Rey is Han Solo's daughter
"Can we see the feminism and grrrll power at work here?"
Ok, no. Kylo Ren was fucking weak. Should have kept his helmet on!! He's not fit to be sith. Even his master called him in to complete his training.
Rey is a more accomplished fighter because of how she grew up. I'm sure there were plenty of marauders trying to steal her stuff.
Also, she one of the few actresses who didn't fight "like a girl."
Keep your feminist crap out of a good movie.
I haven't seen the movie but I've seen this debate online a few times and I think you made some good points.
I think it's just because the writing sucks. Besides, her father was a farmboy who got entirely too skilled entirely too quickly. These movies have always sucked, let's be honest.
I guess they were trying to make it more diverse. But you really got your point across. You've also got a point about the absurdity of the "cute" part. If she were ugly, the theatres would probably be empty (though that isn't what this take's about).
She should have stayed in the kitchen! Let men handle their lightdicks, I mean sabers.
foad.
I like her as a character, she is destined to be a great Jedi, basically - the Force is her natural ability.
I don't see the feminism here, all I see is bad writing.
This is just my guess, bit I think Rey is a Skywalker, remember hpw fast Luke went from farmboy to hero of the rebellion? Luke abandoned "everything" when he was betrayed...
Kylo Ren was severely injured by that crossbow blast, but yeah she was way too skilled with that lightsaber and flying. Blame the director for all that.
It would be too much for ANY character.
It's stupid.
If Finn could suddenly just deflect blaster bolts I wouldn't like that either
Of course she is a ridiculous character. No shit. That's why the movie was so bland.
The franchise is full of plotholes alone, no relation to feminism at all.