Is The Batman Any Good?

[HighlyVolatile]

I just watched The Batman together with my wife last night and I'm not sure I like it. I actually think I don't like it but it's too visually beautiful in a way that's messing with my mind. It's one of those things that is really confusing me so hard. WTF. I kept commenting how pretty the shots were to my wife but I couldn't offer any more.

I at least think I shouldn't like it because where is the character depth? Bruce Wayne? Falcone? Catwoman? Her little thing with Annika (who cares about Annika)?

And The Riddler is like a girl. What a lame villain. He's whiny. In the mask he was okay, but after it's just too much cringe. I don't like this Paul Dano guy anyway. He's so whiny. He's worse than Joaquin Phoenix in Joker. Has anyone seen There Will Be Blood with Daniel-Day Lewis? They cast that same dork in that one and he's annoying as hell but more so in this movie.

They set so many things up and it's like nothing is interesting or climatic, or if climatic it just fizzles out. Climactic car chase over a false lead? And they literally (I used literally correctly here) set the person aside. Investigating a murder scene soon after witnessing the murder take place? Way to take 90% of the suspense out of the scene

I think this movie is kind of pissing me off but only because it's so beautifully shot. I think I'm a Greig Fraser fan but I don't think I like Matt Reeves very much. I don't even like Cloverfield or the new Planet of the Apes films he directed anyway.

Who are the memorable characters in this film?

[ChiTown33]

I hated the first half. It got better towards the end.
I disagree with your take on the Riddler. Personally I think it made him more real, less cartoonish. I mean he was the embodiment of ever shooter we've seen in the last 20 years. The whole, "my life has been s*** and the whole city needs to pay because of it". Attitude.
What I didn't like about it is if you're going to make a more "realistic" Batman movie you can't go halfway with it. I mean 1 detective was insupport of Batman and they just went along with it? C'mon, you know how many times real police would have just arrested the caped crusader for interfering with an investigation lol.
What I did find interesting was the end. I mean Batman has always had an edge to him. He's marked by the death of his parents and that is his motivation for what he does. But after being dark a film long, after he saves Gotham he says he can't be just the punisher of the criminal element. He has to give the city hope. I mean we always knew this about Batman. I don't know if they did this because they were trying to get us on board with Pattinson's version of Batman or not.
Make fun of me if you like but at it's core Batman has an image to maintain. At his core he'll always have rules he cannot break or we'll stop seeing him as the hero and reject the movie. But each incarnation of the Batman always has to surpass the last. Or we reject it as well.
I don't think this was the best Batman. But I didn't hate it.

[Rockstarrrrr]

I kept seeing people giving it 8 and 9 out of ten.. But man it was a terrible movie... coming out of adolescence batman with Robert pattinson and the riddler sounds like a dweeb with so much cringe especially with the recreated interrogation scene.. Catwoman with a horrible and dorky custome and some cringe acting and forced romance between her and batman... the whole movie is like a clone of the movie se7en with a sprinkle of batman world on it... And it got so messy at the end.. Terrible movie I don't know what's up with the good reviews...

[DizzyDesii]

It was beautifully shot but boring af! I fast forwarded through most of the second hour. Zoe was a good catwoman but a horrible Selina. Colin as the Penguin was the only interesting thing in that film. Robert was as dull as he was in Twilight. Like damn why couldnt he have a little personality like in Water for Elephants. Riddler was not riddler. Horrible portrayal and he came across as a cheap version of Bane in the beginning. The guy who played Riddler was so fckin annoying in Knight & Day bUt he acted like more of a riddler in that lol. The Annika thing was really weird and got nowhere. Felt like a “filler”.

[DizzyDesii]

I’d rate that film somewhere between 4 and 6/10

[random_girl95]

One of the great things they did in this movie was to skip the origin story of Bruce Wayne/Batman and just make a narrative for a new story. Having so many films prior to this one it's good that they decided to ommit that part. However I agree with you about Annika as it was just an instalment to connect in some way batman and catwoman. I will conclude saying that for me Zoe's Kravitz performance was the best as she mastered that feminine and mysterious side of Selina Kyle the way she should be in the comics.

[HighlyVolatile]

I'm not sure I liked Catwoman here that much. She seemed a bit distracting. I think I would like her if she had her own movie. Or maybe I love her. I don't know! Maybe I just don't like how it played out between her and Batman. And the movie sort of forgets about her for a good while.

I find myself in this boat with people complaining about films with characters they can't really root for, except I used to think that's not a bad thing as long as I have characters to hate! Characters who annoy me! Characters who I can relate to in some way -- you know -- to make me feel something for them. I don't even have people I can hate here. Falcone gives me nothing! Riddler turned from mysterious to forgotten to annoying!

I don't have anything with this one except such spectacular cinematography. Shot after shot is just beautiful. You can capture a still of almost every single one and frame it. It's beautiful. But I don't have any characters. They're so well-visualized and acted but they aren't giving me anything. You know, I don't have anything. They don't gimme the feels!

[Telekinetic-Potato]

I feel like a batman movie needs to either be a good action movie or a good batman movie. This one tried to be both and yes its Ben done successfully before, this movie ended up not being able to pull off either.

There was only one really good action scene which was the car chase where the batmobile jumps through the explosion.

And the story was forgettable, at times confusing and didn't seem to really be about anything.

[Andres77]

Haven't seen it yet. I like Robert. After seeing him as Cedric I just liked him. Twilight was a bad move for him.
I'll try to see if in the theater if I can soon

[HighlyVolatile]

Rob Pattinson is one of the highlights of the film as I see it. I always thought he could portray eccentric characters, at least, very well (Cosmopolis, The Lighthouse, Good Time). I didn't come into it with a grudge against him like some people. I thought he'd be so interesting! But the writing and characters disappointed me.

That said, I still recommend it because it's visually awesome! It's so pretty. It's blurring into Cyberpunk like it's as pretty as this video game:
https://youtu.be/AdrSpqmmyfk

[dustybiker]

The new one? I have an aversion to RP in the role myself. Not a believable batman to me personally. Maybe I will if it comes on Netflix or something. Though I only have that subscription right now for Stranger things.

[UniquelyBasic]

I honestly thought Robert was a great Batman and Bruce wayne. he's kinda introverted and very awkward in public but thats to be expected from a person who dresses as a bat and fights criminals. he's my favorite Batman.

[OddBeMe]

Tried too hard. Shoulda put more development into the riddler as an incel inspirer. That was interesting.

[AsunderingNova]

its good