For anyone who isn't aware, it's not the same as Schizophrenia.
Unlike Schizophrenia, Schizoid Personality Disorder doesn't involve hallucinations or psychosis.
From the Psychodynamic Diagnostic Manual: "Schizoid individuals easily feel in danger of being engulfed, enmeshed, controlled, intruded upon, overstimulated, and traumatized - dangers that they associate with becoming involved with other people... Some schizoid people feel pain of an intensity so excruciating as to require their defensive detachment in order to avoid it." I have Schizoid Personality Disorder.
I think what happened was that being chronically rejected in childhood made me suppress all desire for relationships (romantic or otherwise). Communicating with people is physically exhausting.
I feel bad for all the people I've hurt by ignoring them. Should I start admitting to people that I'm Schizoid (and explaining what it is) so they can understand that it's not them, it's me?
if someone told me they were schizoid, i'd be understanding of their lack of desire for frequent communication
i think schizoid people are freaks
i wouldn't fault someone for being schizoid, but i'd probably just stop talking to them altogether
if someone told me they were schizoid, i'd think they were just making excuses not to talk to me
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What do you think of people with Schizoid Personality Disorder (i. e. people who avoid social interaction)?
don't anybody see that lie these people are just making you crazy? this should not even be a legit mental illness matter fact is not even mental illness is just personal preference. these people that's making all this garbage of need to be utterly ashamed of themselves. don't believe that garbage that you have something you don't have nothing you're mentally okay. you understand if I was a psychiatrist or counselors will tell you don't believe that garbage you're free to go. that description pretty much describes practically any introverted person. somebody needs to make a petition to get rid of it.
Most introverted people at least have friends and social and romantic bonds. Meanwhile people with schizoid PD don't because theyre uncomfortable with it.
Schizoid PD is dangerous because if you don't develop social relationships, you'll have no one to help you when you're in need. Studies show that most homeless people have schizoid PD and that's why they're homeless; they have no one to grab them when they fall.
And most introverted people at least take pleasure in things. Schizoids dont.
Regardless I'm not mentally healthy even if you don't believe schizoid is a disorder. I've been diagnosed bipolar, generalized anxiety, ocd, and social anxiety.
Not true at all. People fear what they don't understand. If you believe that then that is your choice alone. You can always change if you fight for that change. It's not dangeeous because they refuse to interact with others, it's dangerous because others don't understand them, and the other doesn't trust others with their life. At this point. no offence as I know all of those diagnoses, you would be consider crippled psychologically. Nobody can make that change but you and it's a choice. Everything has to do with the mind. Unless you have physical ailments that contributes to these, 9/10x Its something that happened to that person in the past that need correcting.
Introversion itself isn't a disorder, I agree with that. But extreme introversion, if it impairs the quality of a person's life (which is part of the diagnostic criteria for Schizoid PD), is.
Just like extreme extroversion, that impairs the quality of a person's life, is. For example my sister is so extremely extroverted that she gets suicidal if she can't hang out with friends almost every day. That's a mental illness. So it's not just introversion that can lead to mental illness in its extremity; it's also extraversion.
"It's not dangeeous because they refuse to interact with others, it's dangerous because others don't understand them"
How can we expect people to be there for us when we're in need, if we don't develop any sort of bond with them?
Humans are wired to seek and maintain social bonds because - especially way back in Hunter Gatherer days, but even to some extent today - our lives depend on it. Being completely averse to social interaction isn't normal or natural.
we cannot rely back on Hunter days we got to rely back on biblical standards. not if you don't think it's normal and natural than you clearly saying that you're not a normal person. that's just going to make it very worse for yourself. now regarding your sisters situation she has to be able to handle how she chooses to interact with people. suicide is a personal choice that has zero to do oh she can't do it by herself she'll die. know what it is that she has a badly gripping fear to the point that she's allowing that fear to control her life. that is a choice.
But it's also how we are genetically wired for not everybody is meant to be with everybody and not everybody is meant to be alone. some people are able to have a wonderful life by themselves but it's other people who just wants to butt into others life. we have to learn the key word here which is maintaining respect. if people don't want to get to the root of the problem then they will suffer through this for the rest of their lives. no human being on this world is perfect and no professional on this world can be able to save that person. only God can because the things that you're talking about is due to demonic influences.
now you ask how come you spect you to be there for us when we're in need? well lot of people sadly in this world people needs to understand that nobody really cares. they don't want bonds they want to use people even if those bonds means using others emotionally.
you say people wish it so it PD don't because they are comfortable with it will then they need to get comfortable. that's why I said there's no excuse for it people are the choose to change or did do nothing about it.
people at the end of the day is going to pity and sympathize, but they going to keep their lives moving if you refuse to get yours moving. people are not going to stop living their lives because others choose not to.
First of all, SPD is in fact a real personality disorder and having this personality disorder can be potentially dangerous. People with SPD are at a higher risk of developing depression, anxiety, other personality disorders and schizophrenia. And having SPD does not in anyway relate to being introverted. Introversion simply means that you need time alone in order to become energized again and has nothing to do with whether a person is social or not. You can be social and introverted at the same time. People with SPD however are limited in the range of emotions they can feel and have a hard time expressing the emotions that they do feel. This causes someone with SPD to not be able to connect to other people and form relationships with them.
They need practice not a diagnosis. Only reason why they getting that nonsense because you people keep on dumping it on them. The words will become flesh. Guidance and patience is the key. Their depressed becaus nobody understands them. They go through anxiety because the atmosphere and energy of people are too much, and in turn it can develop into schizophrenia because of the brain! Omg, I had this person in real life I would know what to do. Shame you people don't.
You shame people for not interacting, and you shame people who tries. Yes you can be introverted and social because that is exactly who I am as a person. But if I don't want to interact with certain people, I can't relate to them that don't mean I have that disease. All those things that you're writing base on what you placed so far easily reversible. Is easily as reversible at simply getting rid of people that are not good for that person's life oh, and putting people that are that particular person can form bonds with. A person that don't want to connect with people have that particular right, that does not make him mentally ill. And even if that person is a quantity Society, is nobody else's business as long as they're not hurting other people.
They don't want familial and close interactions? That's fine leave them be. I'm at a point of that myself because people claim they love you and they were honestly shown they don't give a damn about you.
And everything else that is written is all of a sudden a bad thing? I don't know all those things personally myself and I don't make me mentally ill. I find it to be highly disgraceful. I am not interested in always being close with certain people, because I know certain people are not good for me. And just because I choose a life of celibacy that does not mean that I'm in the wrong because I believe in sex after marriage, and not before then. If it's becoming a problem during marriage and that is something to talk about.
And if I'm too sensitive for other people, or so cold shy while I want to be around such people? It's called having respect. And people who so-called suffer that issue or not having the kind of respect they deserve. That's why they constantly would withdraw, that's why they prefer isolation oh, that's why they would rather do activities that does not include group work. These people need to stop trying to pretend like they know people, instead of learning to get to know them. This is why there's so many people that is mentally ill because a lot of them are probably are misdiagnosed. It's always to tell why people end up in situations like that, because sometimes it's not almost all the times they did with abuse at home, they deal with abuse outside the home like I did. A psychologist would focus more on a human being instead of a patient, they will have less people going through the stuff. Ridiculous.
I guess I’m sorry if anything I said offended you and your belief? But I can’t assure you that practice can not eliminate SPD completely if at all. I would know because my cousin was diagnosed as one. So that little bit that you said about me not having experience with someone diagnosed with SPD is really ironic. I literally talk to her everyday because I know she won't keep in touch with me if I don’t put in the effort. She’s indifferent to a majority of things and finds it hard to outwardly express the emotions she can feel which is exactly what she said to me when she was explaining what having SPD is like. She also does talk with multiple people on a daily basis because she works in a clothing store so no, practicing by speaking to people does not eliminate SPD. And if you have had experience with someone with SPD like you said don’t assume that just because something might have alleviated their symptoms a bit doesn’t mean it will for others with the same disorder, especially since people can vary on the Schizoid spectrum.
And just for the record, this disorder has no actual cure like most mental illnesses. You are able to treat other mental illnesses that might develop in addition to SPD like anxiety or depression but there is no way to get rid of SPD. Yes, symptoms are able to lessen through time which is what I think you were trying to get at, but they can’t be eliminated entirely.
@Nacho_23 You have to respect her. That's number one. Everything can be eliminated if you ask. Especially for God. But people don't want that. Nobody said it's going to be easy. But she needs balance. Again, it's not just speaking to people at her job. She needs somebody MORE. Somebody who is there and understand her. She is not alone with people. She is alone in her MIND. That's what others don't understand. It's not the same loneliness others feel. And then call it a disease. We have to stop looking at it as a disease, otherwise, yes, she won't get better. She won't be her own person, because what you're not getting is that you're not saying that she is a person, but a disease that needs fixing. It needs to stop. They don't want to be a disease. They just ask for somebody to understand.
And I get that. But the number one reason why people with SPD usually don’t end up getting better is because frankly, most don’t see anything wrong with themselves and as such don’t see why they should change. I do respect my cousin and try and help her be more social but she just doesn’t want to because she believes she is fine with how she is. Since she doesn’t understand the reason why people desire social interaction with one another, she believes that it’s unecessary and doesn’t care for it.
Also, usually when working people develop at least a tentative friendship with coworkers because of having to work with them constantly. It doesn’t mean that they hang out outside of work but they are at least able to converse comfortably with one another and know each other pretty well.
No one is saying mental illness is a disease either. The only reason why these disorders are classified as mental illnesses are because they are caused by something related to the brain and differ from what a majority of the population experience. In this case, since people with SPD experience a limited range of emotions and have a hard time expressing the emotions they do feel, they are not the norm within society. Another thing that makes these disorder mental illnesses is that they typically impede on someone’s life in some way. For example, everyone can be anxious at times but it becomes a mental illness when that anxiety starts making it difficult for that person to live their life. Same with SPD. Some people might not be extremely social but it becomes a mental illness when that person desires no social interaction period. People who are not extremely social still desire to have close bonds with other people but that is not the case with people with SPD. Usually people with SPD only have a few close friends if they have any at all because they don’t desire social interaction with people. I will say though that SPD doesn’t affect a persons life as much as other mental illnesses.
I’m also a little bit confused because first you said that ‘You understand if I was a psychiatrist or counselor I will tell you don't believe that garbage you're free to go’ and now you’re saying that you need to understand where they are coming from in order to help them which pretty much contradicts what you first said? Im not saying your lying about your experience with a schizoid but it does look a little bit strange that you basically said that SPD doesn’t exist and then later said that it does. Especially since telling someone with SPD that they were free to go is not that understanding and won’t help them overcome their mental illness. Could you clarify this?
I would genuinely try to understand and do my best to help and be good to them - but as cruel as it may sound, if my relationship with them was constantly draining and negative, and I was constantly rejected I'd eventually just move on. Not because I wouldn't care about them but because at the end of the day, my happiness takes precedence over other people's feelings most times.
I'm the exact opposite of them but I completely understand. I would still be kind to them and leave them alone because they want to, having a personality disorder isn't deserving of different treatment, and doesn't mean you are a freak or anything less than someone without a personality disorder. Everyone's brain works differently
I am also one of them and probably that is one of the reason for joining this site. I think though you have schizophrenia you have a high knowledge and willingness to learn more. Based on your polls conducted in past I feel that you are intelligent person.
Admitting to every person would not be a good idea as some of them may not understand. Just tell to the people who you feel that they will understand.
I'd understand. I think I might have it mildly, if thats possible. I don't speak to my friends for weeks at a time. I really prefer being alone as opposed to hanging out with people. I feel sometimes like I'm not close with anybody, etc
I've been realizing lately that it's unhealthy because what will happen when my parents are both dead and I'll have nobody else to depend on? I need to start developing relationships.
A. I myself feel like it's something to expect from people these days. Humanity really weirds me out sometimes. Im someone who has experienced social anxiety (not from natural causes but from weed withdrawal) so I don't know if that's being biased. (Check out my question about if you empathize with humanity, that's something that I believe is one of the results of this)
Man that's tough. I have social anxiety, so I still have the desire to be around people and develop relationships/talk. It just overwhelms me and makes me super anxious. I wish you the best.
I would say that I got told I have that exact thing awhile back, can't seem to change it. I don't think it will ever change; coming to accept that is hard.
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