Why can't some people just keep their homes clean?

[Alwayreckles93]

My friend she is a very messy person. Her house is always messy I told her it is no wonder she got covid. This is why it is super important to clean everything with bleach I even pour a splash of bleach into my dishes. With this nasty virus. Not sure why she took it very offensive and told me to live and called me a Karen. No I don't think I was being a Karen at all. Cleaning is very important. I used bleach for cleaning everything.

[AviatorTom]

There's clean and there's super-clean. IMHO, you take it a bit too far with bleaching everything.

I doubt she got COVID because the house wasn't squeaky clean. That probably happened because she didn't religiously follow COVID protocols outside the house: mask, wash hands, social distancing.

My SO and I often have discussions about cleaning. I like a house that looks lived in, which means occasional cleaning, and sometimes things are out of place. She, on the other hand, wants everything always in its place, and cleans all the time.

[Alwayreckles93]

You are a lucky man to have someone that love to clean.

[TheorionMage]

It is said: "If a messy workspace is evidence of a careless mind;
CONSIDER what a PRISTINE workspace is!" Give ME the cluttered workspace EVERY time!
If all gets 'put away' when work's done... it MAY be 'tidy' BUT...
do you REALLY want to be "done"? ( I LIKE existing in a state of FERTILE incompletion);

... knowing there is MORE YET for ME to accomplish---
As I age, and in reality near 'completion', I'd by far PREFER to 'wear out' than to 'Rust'.

For my 70th birthday this October past... my spouse allowed me purchase an '87 149 mph C4 Corvette to refurbish and customize, replacing my '96 3000GT that I'd PERSONALLY driven 244,000 miles for 12 years!

This Vette is HALF my age and deemed 'antique'... I guess that makes ME a 'fossil'
and will be the LAST vehicle I'll ever be driving... BUT,
I'll 'go' SMILING
and humming Rod Stewart's latest ballad "Just ONE MORE TIME, Baby... for old time's Sake!" :)

[sage2021]

If someone has a very messy home, sometimes it's because they have a problem in their brain that makes them 1) not know where to start. 2) does not have organizational skills. 3) both of them. A friend of mine lives like a pig. He has ADHD (attention deficit hyper activity disorder. He cannot do the things I just mentioned. Please go easy on your friend as it might not be their fault

[Alwayreckles93]

Yeah that is no excuse I have ADHD to and I don't live like a pig. Of course I must have everything in its place an organized. It makes life much more easier.

[sage2021]

@Alwaysreckless93
Sounds more like you have OCD (obsessive compulsive disorder) than ADHD. And you sound like a perfectionist - Lord help you with that. You will drive people crazy wanting everything so perfect. I always thought being a perfectionist was a good thing until when I was at a psychology seminar and learned it's actually a coping mechanism people use. People around you will feel more comfortable around you if you just loosen up a little. Maybe you'll find that out the hard way as you get older. Just sayin'... ☮️

[Alwayreckles93]

You know I find that interesting. Because I was diagnose with ADHD when I was 8 years old. OCD well not sure about that.

[Alwayreckles93]

Well I mean i can see why you would believe I am OCD not sure but everything is lable at my house which is hard to loose things. Everyone cleans their homes. I can't even watch a movie first I must clean everything that is the only way I am able to relax and enjoy a movie once my whole home is clean. And with this wacky virus going on more reason to take precautions.

[sage2021]

@Alwaysreckless93
My 1/2 brother has OCD. When a person has that, their environment is very important to them. At home, in a restaurant, everywhere they are. Like you say you can't even watch a movie unless your whole house is clean - your environment has to be perfect before you can relax. One thing my brother HAS to do is have his closet organized perfectly. Pants have to have been pressed and creases on then. His shirts are hung up by color. Black section, red section, brown section, blue section, etc. His pants - all 👖 jeans in one section, slacks hung by color just like his shirts. You get the idea. Just wanted to elaborate a little bit more. 🌹

[jasco]

First off using that much bleach is harmful to your body and extremely toxic to your lungs and if you eat bleach which you are even if its in small bits, it can cause serious damage to your health. 2nd some people just like being messy, 3rd while i agree people should clean their homes, don't used bleach on everything. That's how you get sick to.

[Alwayreckles93]

Okay then what cleaning products would you recommend? Are you into organic products?

[jasco]

dawn soap is what i used

[LikeALog]

I clean kitchen countertops, stove and sink, and bathroom countertops with disinfecting wipes. I mop floors with soap and water. That's it. I never caught Covid or anything else.
I have no idea how much bleach you use cleaning. I suggest you do an internet search on the hazards of using bleach indoors. Yes, bleach fumes can cause health problems.

[Exterminatore]

Usually is due to laziness. I refuse to live like a pig so my house is almost always clean and orderly.

[Alwayreckles93]

Yes Sir exactly it all because some people can be lazy, Now if they suffer from a medical disability sure I understand I would even offer my self to help around and get some chores done. Some people they have no excuse and their just plain lazy. For some reason mess and clutter I can't stand it drives me crazy.

[Exterminatore]

It drives me crazy as well.

[Alwayreckles93]

What are your favorite cleaning products?

[Exterminatore]

CLR can clean some of the toughest stuff. I like Lysol all purpose cleaner as well.

[Alwayreckles93]

Those are good cleaning choice that will kill the germs from this wacky covid virus.

[emperor90]

Sometimes lazinese but if they have disablites and can't clean its not there fault

[Alwayreckles93]

Yes I agree

[NamerOfStars]

That's not being a "Karen", that's being a "Martian", and is a big part of WHY so many people are having so much trouble with this virus- your immune system needs practice. Over-sanitizing everything means it doesn't get it, and so when you DO get sick, you're in trouble.

It's also why we've got so many kids with allergies so severe they can't be hospitalized because someone ten feet away from them ate a peanut butter sandwich.

[Alwayreckles93]

Well you know that's interesting. Because I used bleach for everything even washing my dishes. My grandmother used bleach for everything and no one has died.

[Alwayreckles93]

None of us has never got sick from covid.

[Alwayreckles93]

I don't understand why you referring to being a martian only because I like maintaining my home clean. No excuse people should always maintain their homes clean at all times.

[NamerOfStars]

"Martian" was a reference to War of the Worlds, in which Martians invade Earth, overpower our defenses, and begin harvesting humans for blood- but are eventually wiped out by it, because their obsession with cleanliness lead them to sterilize everything they came in contact with, and so their immune systems were easy prey for our microbes. Your immune system needs practice; this is why polio was so much a disease of the rich: kids who played in the dirt and went swimming in rivers where raw sewage was dumped had immune systems that laughed at something as pathetic as polio. It is, as I mentioned, the reason that so many allergies are so widespread- the body's never been exposed to real pathogens, so it reacts in an extreme manner to things that shouldn't threaten anybody.

So go ahead and bleach everything you touch- when you DO eventually get Covid, you'll suffer all the more for it. But don't encourage people to cripple themselves because you're too afraid to take basic measures to protect yourself. You have no right to demand others pay for YOUR poor decisions. YOU are the one who has no excuse.

[Alwayreckles93]

I apologise I am not a gamer, Okay I see what you mean. Other then that no I don't agree with you. I mean it's been what almost two years we been dealing with this virus standers and precautions. You are wrong I always carry my hand sanitizer. I had always used bleach for cleaning and I hate and can't stand a messy house. I don't understand how some people can live like that it is ridiculous. House should always remain clean. I always used bleach for cleaning and my kids and I are very Healthy and never got sick. My friend got covid last year's and that is because she does not clean her house I feel sorry for her fiance. If I was your wife I would clean every inch of your house.

[Alwayreckles93]

No excuse? From what exactly? I love to cleaning my home their is I see nothing wrong with that. Mopping my floors and scrubbing it's like therapy to me. I don't understand why some people are just messy it drives me nuts mess.

[NamerOfStars]

War of the Worlds is a book, but fair enough on that point. And you needn't agree; it's basic logic: you have no more right to insist on people always being clean than I do in them being willing to get dirty. We're neither of us gods. Thus, I offer reasons: it is profoundly unhealthy to rely only on incidental exposure to germs to build up your immune system. It's responsible for the rise in serious allergies we've seen among children born in the last twenty years. You simply say "Because I want it", and think that's enough. It wouldn't be even if it weren't crippling and killing people.

Your way of doing things will only protect you so long as you can control who and what you come into contact with. I am very far from a neat and tidy person, and that's why I never get sick- because my immune system's primed and ready for anything the world can throw at it. You're in trouble if your containment system ever breaks down. The entire reason that anyone under the age or BMI of sixty has experienced Covid as anything worse than a mild case of the sniffles is because of attitudes like yours. This would all be over if enough people will simply accept a tiny risk and catch it, recovering and contributing to herd immunity. The idea that it can be avoided is prompting people to try, causing all the harm we're seeing.

Your lack of excuse isn't in being clean, it's in insisting that everyone does, too- to the active detriment of the whole population.

[Alwayreckles93]

Did you ever get sick from covid? You see my friend she is like you that claims oh if your such a clean freak you get sick you will die. I never gotten sick from covid and even it has been said disinfect everything. Every public place I go they even have sing that says clean pen and one once you used a pen the staff ask you to put it inside the Ben that says dirty pen. You know you are not making any sense and where did you get that crazy information about being clean will make you sick? Maybe your the one that needs to be worried because you can get a virus especially how you claim that you aren't clean and tidy. If I was your wife I would clean your house with bleach and other disinfecting product. I won't get sick I carry my disinfectant wipes with me. I mean you never know who is sick.

[Alwayreckles93]

I'm sorry I am not a book person either. But seriously I don't understand were exactly did you heard that being cleaning will make you sick. You know it is also important to take showers every single day. And no I do not have OCD. Bit the importance of cleaning is necessary.

[Alwayreckles93]

But sorry my phone is going crazy with spell check.

[Alwayreckles93]

The reasons we have this disgusting virus it is all because of inconsiderate people that are lazy and don't want to clean.

[Alwayreckles93]

Before I sit down I take with me my disinfectant wipes and I clean the chair before I sit down. You should do the same.

[Alwayreckles93]

You and I are the same age we should be at the same page.