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I think it's obviously false here in Japan. It's so common for men and women to be close friends here, and often even from early childhood.

One of the greatest culture shocks that I experienced when I set foot in places like the US is this notion that men and women can't be close friends without developing feelings (or unless they find each other unattractive). It seems so patently untrue here in Japan. But I think there might be some things here in Japan that contribute. These are just my conjectures:
1) Boys and girls are encouraged to be friends starting from the earliest age. So I think that mitigates the notion of seeing each other as mere targets of sexual or romantic desire.
2) Interests here are more unisex. For example, the Famicom was marketed to both boys and girls as opposed to Nintendo in the US where I found it in the boys' sections of toy stores and also saw advertisements targeted mostly towards boys. As a result, I would play video games even as a little boy together with both other boys and girls, like Super Mario. Similarly, lots of Japanese women love sports, beer, wrestling, martial arts, things perhaps considered a bit tomboyish in the US.
3) Japanese tend to value personality far more than looks and tend to be extremely picky about the personalities they want to date (although not picky much at all about personalities they want to befriend). I think part of the reason is that Japanese don't vary so much in looks. Most Japanese people are slim with dark hair and eyes. They're in decent health but not gym rats so often. There's not that much variation in looks and so that's why I think we don't tend to be so picky about looks.
4) It's not so hard for the average Japanese man to get dates. I think the most common scenario where friendships get ruined is for a man who has a difficult time getting dates starting to get so fixated on one of his female friends. Such a guy is probably going to be more likely to get so attached romantically/sexually to the first woman he can hang out with regularly. In Japan, that also happens, and those are the desperate guys who start to crush on their female friends. But such guys struggling to find dates are very rare here.
I think these kinds of things contribute.
#4 might be the biggest point. Consider like a young Brad Pitt in the US. He's probably not going to struggle to find dates. If he wants a girlfriend, he can get one quickly without going for months searching. So he can probably befriend girls, even very closely, without becoming attached to them as romantic pursuits and be more selective and pick a woman he not only finds attractive but find best-suited for him and her personality-wise as lovers, and not just as friends.
In the US I have to use such an extreme example but in Japan, even a very average Joe type of guy can date almost as easily. The only guys who struggle to get dates and can ruin friendships like this are typically guys far below average in terms of social appeal.
No and yes cuz if you can successfully draw line between them, its not that difficult. Woman in my experience tend to jump the line and demand typical B. F like treatment from guys like telling everything, venting, demanding them to spend time on them listening to their venting and even expect them to take care of them like paying and stuff like that.
When guys see this behaviour they tend to believe, She wants more cuz that's typical G. F behaviour and they catch feelings for her (considering normal friendship). Woman have to understand he is not your significant others and you can't demand that from him, neither he freaking owes you anything in case of friendship.
He is not your B. F and have full right to say NO, and that what I tend to do. Whenever I see someone crossing the line and make stupid demand like sitdown with me and listen to what he did for 3 hour... I will say NO and majority of white chicks tend to take it as disrespect but,
You can't expect me to give you B. F perks at the price of nothing and I have someone in my life, to whom I will stay loyal and dedicate my time and life.
I chose no from my personal experience. I haven't had a strict platonic guy friend since the age of 12. After that, all the boys that were my friends tried to ask me out once puberty hit for both of us. Fast forward to adulthood and in my personal life, men perform the same move of acting friendly at first then slowly turning things up. Then asked me out despite me making it abundantly clear in a blunt manner that I am not and will not ever be interested in exploring a romantic relationship.
At work, men think that just because a woman is being friendly that they want to date them which makes networking hard as hell. Its as if they're pushing their way of thinking onto us.
So I give into the notion that men and women can't be friends if either party is attractive.
I'm curious why do you want a guy friend as you know most men would want something more?
@JustiReno could you rewrite the last sentence that was phrased as a question please? It was a bit hard to understand the way it was phrased.
@Tstrbrainer to fulfill my ongoing crave for diversity when it comes to people i surround myself with.
It's really difficult if you are pretty.
However there are some guys who are unable or too scared to make a move, to let you know they are interested.
They might continue as friends but you might be actually hurting them if you take such friends
I saw this video of this guy saying that men and women just literally can not be friends and sadly I feel like he's telling the truth.
I've had two friendships end with two guys all because they apparently had feelings for me that I knew nothing about, but then they asked me to date them out of no where and for me it was very awkward. Their persistence with the question made it worse!
Sadly, instead of respecting my decision, they threw tantrums (one of them even went as far as threatening to commit suicide but that's another story for another day that's just too traumatizing to talk about🤦🏾♀️)
Overall, this made me scared to be friends with guys anymore
oh you knew about it. You just enjoyed manipulating them for free attention/services.
@Lookingforthetruth lol OK honey. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.
I don't have to manipulate any damn body for shit if anything they took advantage of my trust that I gave to them. It's not my fault they liked me, again they had their own damn girlfriends they never gave any fucking signs of them liking me now had they did it earlier on before we got too deep into the friendship instead of waiting YEARS later after I freshly go through a breakup, I probably would've said yes.
Get the fuck from under my reply box with that bullshit as if you know me or even know the situating situation cause bitch if it was your mother or your sister you would feel the same fucking way.
Go pound fucking salt, goofball
@Lookingforthetruth NEWS FLASH mother fucker; a girl rejecting to date you DOES NOT equal manipulation. Know what manipulation means before you go slinging the word around.
Nobody owes you their time nor their pussy just because y'all like them! DO Y'ALL MEN SAY YES TO EVERY FUCKING GIRL THAT COMES YOUR WAY? NO, RIGHT? OK THEN, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP
I dont think thats his point. And why do women believe if her guy friend catches feelings, he had sexual intentions the entire time? Thats not true. I was close friends with a girl, didn't want to sleep with her, but as we learned about each other, spent time together and depended on each other, i fell in love with her. Is that bad? And yet somehow that means i have nefarious intent? No, and most women are aware of men's feelings but claim ignorance to it
@mobiusforniner it's shit like this that make women hate you all. The lack of accountability and level of in denial is just mind boggling.
Then you all talk like you're fucking psychics as if you all know EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERY FUCKING WOMAN'S SITUATION! And then you have the audacity to gaslight. Like the fuck!
I don't care what fucking women YOU'VE experienced that has done that, that has nothing to do with ME, MY FUCKING SITUATION IS DIFFERENT
Nobody has to act ignorant, as I said and I'll say it again, you all think that JUST BECAUSE Y'ALL LIKE US, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO AUTOMATICALLY JUST LIKE YOU ALL BACK, NO!!!
A lot of you mother fuckers will be friends with us JUST to pull shit like that and then try to demonize us if we reject you all and from what I know, that's basically a form of taking fucking advantage against someone against their will, dumbass.
You all act like we owe y'all a relationship when nobody owes you SHIT!
You all think life is a fucking movie, this isn't some romantic film where you have the guy and the girl that are best friends and then they end up fucking and getting married and running off into the sunset!
Y'all don't realize that just because you're friends with girls that DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO BE A FUCKING COUPLE!
I try to think on an equal level but this shit is why women treat y'all the way they do sometimes because you all are too fucking entitled and that shit is toxic.
Whoa girl you is need to calm down. You sure is all worked up. G day now.
@mobiusforniner I'm worked up because you came over here gaslighting me blaming me for the behavior of some grown ass men that I had nothing to do with nor was I at all aware about and you accused me of manipulating them! Wtf do I look like manipulating some mother fuckers that aren't even in the same state as me? If I wanted to do that, I'd do that to someone in my own damn city and state! What the fuck could they have done for me? Not a damn thing! Therefore what in thee fuck would I have gained out of manipulating them?
When I want a man, I get him I don't need to waste anybody's fucking time or play with anyone's feelings I'm not even that social to be interacting with people like that, are you stupid?
Shut the fuck up next time and know what the fuck you're talking about before you speak
@mobiusforniner you all act like all women are just out to fucking get y'all when many of us don't even want to deal with you all
Lol I wasn't attacking you... or anyone for that matter.
@mobiusforniner yes you did you just said "I had fun manipulating them"
I'm sure you've ran into some shitty women in you're life and I'm aware that there are shitty women that exist, but let me let you in on a little secret; I'M NOT ONE OF THEM!
I have morals and also I believe in karma, babe.
Therefore you're not gonna catch me going out of my way to hurt ANYONE cause that shit will always come right back around, HELL NO
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Can I light a match while standing in gasoline two inches thick? Can I walk on the ledge of a 25 story building? I could go on with examples! The ugly underbelly of this question belies "cheating". So can a man and a woman be close friends and not cheat? Absolutely they can. I work closely with married women all the time. The key to this is clearly established boundaries. If I ask "Robyn" if she wants to go grab lunch it is the same as if I ask "Dave". This is because I need to eat not screw! Just because I can work closely with a female does not mean every male can! Also just because "Robyn" can work closely with me does not mean every female can. Now to switch gears. I do think that men and women should avoid becoming "soulmates" this can begin innocently then start becoming emotional over time. Example. If "Robyn" tells me she has a cold that is one thing, but to tell me she has started her period? That is something else. Again, as long as proper boundaries are clearly established and respected there are no issues in my opinion. Just beware! There are a huge amount of divorces all across the western world as a result of co-workers and friends screwing each other! This is a DIRECT result of boundaries being crossed! Think of it this way my mother used to make one of the best banana puddings I have ever eaten. If I came home and saw one in the refrigerator I knew better than touch it. That is a boundary. The same dynamic is at play here!
It's definitely doable, an being gay helps, but I think it'd be a lot more common if romance wasn't so dominatingly valued over friendships in media/people, and everybody didn't automatically assume "couple" when they see a boy and girl be in the same room as each other.
It's kinda ridiculous. You grow up eating the idea that you will find a boy/girl, fall in love, and that's the most important part of your life. Of course kids have a hard time making "just friends" with the opposite sex. It's so easy to see staying friends as settling for a cheap half-relationship when what you really need is sex, or love. You know, the important relationship. The one that will give you meaning in life. 😗🙄
No, the statement is false.
At least on college level.
I have seen many friends. They were not couple, but were just together. When I asked the guy about any feelings, they all said, why would they have feelings for this particular girl?
That was good thinking. Practical with a hint of emotional touch. Perfect blending for social behavior, I think.
I myself have many friends who are girls. Trust me, I never even thought about them in this way. They are friends and that was enough or that was good. Nothing more than that.
No absolutely not they cannot maintain friendship unless the guy is a eunuch or the girl is unable to have sexual or romantic feelings. It’s a very old and stupid question. Anyone that has been in a long term relationship and marriage understands this, but many have yet to learn. If you are married, and your partner is communicating or having a friendly relationship with someone that isn’t business related, it’s only a matter of time before the cheating happens. It will be some dumb excuse like they got drunk or something. If your partner truly loves you, they won’t have a reason to be friends with the opposite sex anymore. All their time will be dedicated to you and the family.
Objectively and very obviously demonstrably false. This claim is not only beyond absurd because of how absolutist it is, but also because of its beyond absurd premise. The premise essentially boils down to that everyone finds everyone attractive (or at least all men find all women attractive). WTF? Who is delusional enough to believe this?
The other thing that's so absurd about it, is its audacity to discredit millions upon millions of friendships. I've always had very close female friends. Out of my best friends, most are female, actually. No one ever caught feelings for the other.
Some people really need to grow the fuck up and stop projecting.
False, but it can be true depending on some individuals.
I’m close friends with a few guys. We have no interest in each other whatsoever. We are very clear with our boundaries and know that it would never happen. My parents have close friends of the opposite sex, same thing.
This gives me hope, maybe one day I will be able to have a platonic guy friend that has no ulterior motives.
I had one girl I was friends with I thought she had the most beautiful blue eyes I’ve ever seen king strawberry blonde hair and cute freckles all over her face, she was one of my best friends that were female in HS, we slept together in my bed one night and I didn’t try anything with her, I felt like I blew my chance no doubt, but I cared about the girl and thought she wasn’t the right one for me, knew I’d most likely end up hurting her so I didn’t. If you can keep them that’s cool you’re young but as you get older it gets harder but I choose fam over friends there is time for that
Absolutely false. I have a guy friend irl who I have no feelings for and he has no feelings for me either. I also have friends on here of the opposite gender. People who think men and women can't be friends are either ignorant or they're using their bad experiences with friends of the opposite gender to make generalizations about all opposite gender friendships. I hate it when people keep making generalizations.
I am "good" friends with a lot of women. If I were to catch feelings it would have happened a long time ago I think.
So I think men and women can be close friends without catching feelings. Although it certainly can happen of course, but not necessarily.
False. My Best friend is a male and we very super close. He is the closest person to me. And we don't have feelings for each other. at least this didn't happen with me. Also in my life I had more male friends than female yet I didn't got feelings for any of them nor did they got any feelings. We made it clear with each other.
so it is definitely possible for a man and a woman to just be friends. But from my experience, women are more likely to be able to be purely friends with a man than a man to be purely friends with a woman.
The thing that you need to understand about men is that they are extremely sexual. Many guys won't even want to befriend a woman they aren't attracted to.
Woman want protection, taken care off and someone to listen to their shit, which you can get in friendship but men want sex, which is usually not available in friendship.
So in simple words friendship with woman is kinda lose lose situation for men, while its win win situation for woman.
@AlphaGhost
No it’s because women are less sexual than men. A man’s thinks with his dick while a woman thinks with her brain
Yet everything in world is men invention and its men world, grow the "F" up and open your eyes. Men are not emotional train wrecks and we don't need to go around asking for someone to help us deal with variety of things.
The only things woman are worth to man is reproduction and sex and that's it, so we don't think with dick otherwsie you will still be living in caves with no language, its just that woman worth to majority of us, while woman need a lot and we can do everything ourselves
What woman even provide in friendship to men?
apart from leaching benefits from us, you can't even freaking expect loyalty from you guys or even expect you to come in middle to night to save our ass stuck somewhere, while a guy would definitely do that for us.
@AlphaGhost
men think with their dicks, women think with their brains.
I don’t think with my dick. But if I had the opportunity for a hookup than a relationship. I’d take the hook up. There’s absolutely no other value to a women than sex… sorry to say lol. Unless your one of those guys who actually want an emotional connection. That’s a different story. Both a relationship and a friendship has no value with women from a mans perspective. As soon as you rely on another person, you lost at life.
Too sexual? Oh you mean the horny simps? I befriend girls who are ugly too. I just use them for my personal agenda (non sexual) and throw them out. Only selective men go after attractive girls only. Aka your shy man that doesn’t know how to communicate or the horny fuck like mentioned before. Not the social butterflies. We communicate with all.
No matter how hard women try to believe that it isn’t true, they have no idea how they can unintentionally cheat on their boyfriend with their friend. Which leads to them legitimately cheating and knowing they are and then they attempt to panic and get her boyfriend to stay when he shouldn’t. Once a cheater always a cheater. Women being around other men constantly builds relationships that they may or may not plan to build but it does anyway.
Both my best friends are female, and its been like this for years.
I can never see myself catching feelings for them, I have zero attraction for either of them. If you know how to spark attraction, you also know how to kill it. So that's never going to be an issue lol.
False. I had a close guy friend that I lived with for a little bit. He was more like a brother to me. We were totally different in a sense to date. But we had fun at many Tom Petty and Fleetwood Mac concerts!
But if he had the chance, I bet he would have dated you.
Years ago I would've voted false but it happened to me.
My male friend of 21 years got drunk one night, called me and told me how he knew that one day we will end up together. After that our friendship was ruined.
for the most part true, i just lost my best friend who got feelings but he is married and no way i was getting into that situation. its weird but well thats life i suppose
False- mostly. Feelings are LIKELY to develop, especially given enough time, but it's not a certainty. Also, they're, y'know, FEELINGS. You don't have to let them dictate your actions.
ture.. cyz i have seen one of my closest friend fall head over heals for a guy, and the guy doesn't seem to be borthered by this fact.. this girl is soo madly in love with the guy that whenever he's around she forgets that there is any world around her.. omgg toxic
Toxic?
This could be true and false. Some persons can develop feelings. For example If you're a beautiful woman, have a nice body and a great personality it might be hard for a single guy to just want a friendship.
From experience if you become close friends with the opposite sex the whole world thinks you're together.
I have many make friend what are married with someone and single. I get along with men more than women
For me this stood true, I’ve once fallen for my best friend and it crushed me that he said I was like his sister. Lmao
False it can happen but as with anything depends on how people treat the friendship and what u define as close friendship
Its 70 /30
But there are more chances of sympathy for women that has fallen in love with her guy bestfriend and is justified and acceptable than vice versa
This is completely false. Some people don't know how to be friends without catching feelings, but many people are friends with the opposite sex and have no feelings whatsoever
It's rare that sooner or later one DOESN'T catch feelings but the rarest yet but has happened we're best friends for so long that even tho no feelings were caught, realized they were the best fit for each other and grew feelings from there.
I’ve argued this so many times. I think at some point, one will catch feelings
If you mean friendship feelings, then it is true... but romantic feelings isn't always the case.
False. My best friend in high school was a guy and we never had feelings for each other.
Only people who aren't used to having many friends from the opposite gender might think like this, it's false
Most of my friends are woman, and most of them is like a sister to me.
I've been good friends with LOTS of girls and never had feeling for them, and vice versa.
I had several female friends and they never became more than that.
This statement is self-defeating. Close friends naturally have feelings for each other. They wouldn't be close friends, otherwise.
False; I've had several close female friends.
OK, I see you said "one of them". I can't verify how they may have felt about me.
Not true!! I have a guy friend who send me to a date..
True, unfortunately this is the case in most situations.
most of the time boundaries aren't set well, someone catches feeling and someone gets hurt.
true if there is zero attraction then I don't enjoy a womans company. It's oK if nothing ever comes of it, but women are harder to be around than men
To be perfectly honest I think that is false because I have female friends and female friends with benefits but then again I am over 49.
How can a friends with benefits be a friend?
If one is atracted to the other sexually, then it most lilely won't work.
i have them, they are more like bros to me, and it is viceversa for them.
@JustiReno nahh they are more likely to set me up on dates with jokers to make fun of me types lmao
@JustiReno naah finishing high school this yr
@JustiReno lol those friends are not from school, i am in an all girls school :|
Not future options 🤔😉😉 future for a 18 year old is like 2 weeks you heard this 🇷🇺/ 🇺🇦 thing right? LOL jk jk but covid and online school must be tough. Real talk only thing you can do in this life is be a good person 🙏 and secure the bag 💰 🔑 you most likely hella more chill and way less paranoid then me tho 😇my bad do you
I wouldn't say they " can't". But more often then not I think it happens that one of them usually does.
False. Because if that's the case, bisexuals can't have close friends.
100% false unless one of them is attracted to the other.
Honestly for me personally unless they are younger than me I just always get attached and I hate it I just want friends.
False, I've been close friends with girls in my class for over a decade now. We were batchmates from elementary school to high school.
False false false! I do have 2 close friends who aren't male and they aren't ugly or unattractive neither.
Men don't become friends with a girl they don't want to sleep with.
Obviously false.
It can happen but most are not interested in plain friendship to begin with.
True but that doesn't mean the friendship has to end. The one who caught feelings for the other might have to live in silence.
Absolutely and totally False.
In what way?
Well for example both my husband and I have extremely close friends of the opposite sex, some of which we have known long before we met each other over nine years ago.
I'm not indicating that it's not entirely possible, however you have worded your question in such a way that it applies to each and every individual.
True. What if I changed the question to say mostly instead of everyone.
Yes. Then what would your answer be?
I wish I’ve had better experiences with this but I haven’t.
Definitely true. I've had good friendships with people with whom weren't mutually attracted. :)
True! I’ve been going through it and it SUCKS
Watch "When Harry Met Sally"
It's possible but I think it's just very rare
If you act like a friend, you're a friend.
friendship between men and women doesn't exist.
This is what I believe.
By my experience it's basically like that.
False cuz most men are gay anyway.
Who hurt you?
Men’s gayness.
So a guy who has no interest in you is gay?
No, it’s just safe to assume a man is gay based on the probability that most men are gay.
Not really I could say the same about women. Men don’t owe you anything more than there platonic relationship if you think you deserve a relationship with a guy just because you’re attracted to him doesn’t mean he has to give you the same reaction back stop watching rom com movies and Disney movies they lied to you. In other words men don’t owe you shit.
I’m not owed a platonic relationship by men either. And I wasn’t even suggesting men owe women anything, so stop talking out of your ass.
Ok so what we’re implying then?
Women know exactly what they want. It’s just that what they want is usually unrealistic. And we weren’t even talking about what women want, so I don’t know why I’m replying to you.
Exactly
Not being able to get what you want because it’s unrealistic does NOT in any way equal to not knowing what you want.
What is that you want?
Why should I tell u?
Well you seem to be angry about something maybe I can help you out?
@Nades I can try to help her out? If she lets me?
I really don’t see how you can help, therefore u probably can’t.
Ok let me try what was the reason of your intent to say that most men are gay?
You said women know exactly what they want. But what they want is unrealistic. If it’s so unrealistic then why the actual fuck would they set that high expectation in the first place? They would have to know it’s unrealistic at one point. So why did they ever make that expectation lol. If women knew what they want they would be the ones approaching. Men are masculine. They are direct and know what they want and go for what they want. It’s all biology hun
Why do u care so much? Are u a closeted gay too?
@Nades there are also some guys out there that have unrealistic standards for example incels have unrealistic standards when it comes to women they want 9/10 women when non of them or most of them don’t even meet the same expectations
It’s not an attack. Just a simple question. Nothing wrong with being gay.
Ok I’m straight
Does that answer your question?
Sure
So why do you think most men are gay is that want something from you other than friendship or vice versa?
What?
Why are you assuming most men are gay?
Are they not?
Well there are men who are gay but that does not include all men or most men?
I think it’s most men.
Ok but just because most men are not attracted to a girl doesn’t men there gay it means they have different taste.
That’s not why I think most men are gay.
Then why?
Why do u care?
“Women know exactly what they want. It’s just that what they want is usually unrealistic. And we weren’t even talking about what women want” mentioned that women want unrealistic standards so it must have hit a nerve for you
Can you please go away? You don’t even know how to speak, so I can barely get what you’re saying half the time. Thnx.
Ok fine all I can say is I hope you get the help you need ✌️
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