Helping women understand how men view the "Body Positivity" movement.

[DextroShade]

This KING deserves a bad bitch!

The body positivity/healthy at every size/fat acceptance movement exists solely to shame men for desiring fit women, and does absolutely nothing to benefit men. This is proven by the fact that they will put an obese woman on the cover of SI Swimsuit Edition but they won't put an obese man on the cover of Men's Health. The problem is men cannot be shamed into finding something beautiful, and physical beauty is far more important to men than women. So I have an analogy that can help women understand how men feel about this:

Imagine there is a Broke Positivity Movement. This movement is about celebrating men who didn't work, lived in their parents' basements, got high all day, and lived off of Doritos and Mountain Dew. These men are KINGS and they deserve bad bitches! If you dare shame or disparage these men in any way it's because you are a brokephobic bigot! There is absolutely nothing wrong with these fine men, they are just living their best lives!

Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's how body positivity sounds to men.

[RealMarek]

Some of the nonsense that the current elites peddle requires us to not believe our lying eyes. Why? Aside from flattering a large number of unhealthy single college-educated women, who tend to be the most enthusiastic supporters of the globalist elites, it’s the old “point deer, make horse” trick that Zhao Gao used to identify officials who were not so servile that they would pretend to believe the deer he presented to the emperor was actually a horse. If you protest that obesity makes women unattractive, you mark yourself out as an enemy of the current elite.

[strateguy632]

that is what happened in jezebel website exhibiting his opening statement here, to shame men etc.

[inhua]

simps and white knights play a role in enabling this delusional behavior and not giving a shit when some of these women eat themselves to death but if someone dares tell the truth, they're automatically labeled a sexist, misogynist, incel, bigot etc.

[AaronKrieger]

It really has nothing to do with men I imagine, but instead the pressure girls have. The movement began, since women ever since their childhood deal with a lot more issues than us regarding their body. Hell, even the stories I hear of ballet teachers criticizing young girl's bodies are just awful, and I imagine girl's clothing being tighter than ours doesn't help either. It makes sense that eventually a lot of women would want to try to lessen the pressure of being skinny, which I think they should.

However, the movement really approached it very badly, since they only targeted it towards women's bodies and they tried advocating unhealthy bodies as a good thing. I believe it's core message should had been about being comfortable in your skin no matter what, but don't let it be an excuse for unhealthy habits. That you should mentally be healthier by not worrying about your body's looks so much, but also physically be healthier by incorporating healthy habits. Don't even need to be hardcore/strict about it, but at least put in the effort to do better especially if you're underweight/obese

[4ngelic]

the truth is that most women dont buy into that really. it's only some overweight ones who do, mainly cos other bigger women or girls who want to be nice and supportive will tell them that stuff. in reality most girls including most thicker ones want to be like 100lbs and would rather die than become fat. its also more of an america/uk thing i think the whole body positivity thing. i live in france and people are very honest about weight, and are a lot stricter about what is a pretty weight and what is too fat. here if you're above a bmi of 20-21 you're fat and people close to you will start commenting on your weight and telling you to go on a diet. everyone gets involved when you get to a bmi of 24-25 or so, then it's everyones business to give you diet advice, tell you how much prettier you'd be if you were skinnier, tell you to not eat that cookie, and how you need to do something asap before you start to look ugly

[Molly1997]

This body positivity stuff needs to stop.. it is never a good thing to be grossly overweight, unhealthy etc.. and it’s certainly not helping our race as a whole

[strateguy632]

to molly, precisely. health is the problem.

[AaronH03]

Exactly, people commenting on Lizzo’s IG etc saying “oh you’re sizzling” or “so beautiful”. Sorry but Lizzie is the picture of unhealthy. It’s like when COVID was in its peak and everyone was afraid to say “fat people are much more susceptible to dying from it” because they were afraid it would come across as fat shaming. Not to be cruel but in US people are generally grossly overweight, it isn’t something to be celebrated. You don’t need to be mean to someone who is, but building up this false narrative that it’s healthy and wonderful to be fat is not helping. We attack people who smoke because of how bad it is but we treat being overweight like it’s a great thing. Makes no sense

[potahto11]

@AaronH03 but—I actually think Lizzo is beautiful

[AaronH03]

@potahto11 I don’t mean that she isn’t beautiful. I probably used a poor choice of wording. I just mean in general it is not healthy. We can’t just ignore health and celebrate, which essentially is what people are doing now, being overweight. And that being said, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but also I would argue that most people, like an alarming number would not consider her beautiful, specifically because she is overweight. I don’t mean for that to sound cruel or mean but it is just a fact.

[DextroShade]

@potahto11 your opinion on Lizzo supposed beauty is irrelevant, only men's opinions matter here because men are the consumers of female beauty. You may as well ask me my opinion on which tampon is best.

[potahto11]

@DextroShade I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or actually think that I can’t appreciate female beauty because I’m a girl

[potahto11]

@AaronH03 yeah I get your meaning now it is true that being obese/overweight means that if someone tries to be concerned about an obese person’s health, they automatically get labeled fat phobic. I guess I was just trying to say that overweight people can be pretty and forcing people to lose weight just because they don’t conform to beauty standards is a bit problematic. I agree with you, though, many people don’t consider obesity beautiful

[AaronH03]

@potahto11 oh totally agree I don’t want to force anyone to do anything ever. But celebrating being overweight literally isn’t healthy

[DextroShade]

@potahto11 you are demonstrating that you cannot appreciate female beauty when you say Lizzo is beautiful. No one at that weight is beautiful.

[19magic]

Urgh tell me about it, did you hear saying you want to lose weight or going on a weight loss journey or saying yay I've just lost a stone. All that means your fatphobic and that you're fat shaming and get this - it should be illegal to fat shame and you should get charged for it. Like wtf did I just hear in the lastest video 🤦🏼‍♀️

[strateguy632]

to 19, do not limit free speech, especially when stretching "not beautiful" word opinion as vicious insult and fat shaming. as a pink you missed his conclusion just for you.

[19magic]

... Did you read my comment, or just not understand what I wrote?

[BoopBoopBeep]

I'm struggling a little to put together more than an outline of what he is saying, but I do know I'm never going to say that criminalizing speech is the right answer.

[19magic]

Yeah I know that, that's why I said what I said in my opinion: did you hear saying... 'xyz,' and then I said, wtf did I just hear in the latest video.

All of which shows what side of the fence I'm on, even the first part, urgh - displays annoyance, tell me about it - shows I'm agreeing with op

[handsomelad70]

Look, I wasn't into fat broads as a boy or young man. What makes these "Body Positivity" boneheads think I'm going to worship them today because it's the zeitgeist. (I may be called "Cowboy" [also 'Golden Boy" because of my good looks at 70], but I didn't ride into town last night after falling off a horse without wearing a cowboy hat!!!)

[Anonymous]

Yeah I don’t understand the body positivity thing either I thought it mostly died when a bunch of the influencers died of obesity related illnesses. When it was a thing though it just seemed kinda narcissistic. Then there was mess holiday on the cover of a bunch of stuff with her clearly gay hipster husband lol I’m not fat and I don’t expect everyone to find me beautiful it doesn’t bother me because I feel comfortable with myself.

[Anemone978]

Why do you keep complaining about this? It is so people stop being so mean to fat people.. I don't get why people are like "its unhealthy!" like nah shit, they didn't know they are fat and unhealthy... what does that have to do with others tho... let people do what they wanna do. All you skanks fucking 100s of randoms... but complain being fat is unhealthy what about you dirty fucks passing STDs around but that ain't an issue. Fucking idiots.

[Sanser]

Yes, they know they are fat, and for some people its very hard to lose weight... but we shouldn't encourage that kind of things! We have to respect them and also try to help them making a path for them to be proud of themselves not because they must be happy with their body but because they must be proud of trying to change it! I think that the body possitive movement is bad for those people, we should encourage them to change! For example I really like campaings as Adidas with fat models doing exercise, It makes visibilize fat people and also encourage them to be their best version of themselves!

[Anemone978]

@Sanser I understand not encouraging being unhealthy but I don't think it is right that we are not allowed to feel comfortable in our own bodies because rude dumb cunts always have something to say. That is why I am a rude fuck to everyone, and I will hurt anyone I meet unless they are nice to me. It only took me 30 some years to feel comfortable in my own skin because people always been putting me down, just because I'm chubby.

[Sanser]

I understand what u say and u are right, people must live their lifes, but also u can't tell to a person who is far from her perfect him/herself "wow u are perfect🥰🥰🥰". Thats what I really think is the bad thing. This is another different subject but I also saw people in social media say the same to people with anorexia "Wow i want to be like u". Our society should encourage people to be healthy! And the body positive movement makes people not want to have the need to evolve and become the best version of themselves (not thinner, all bodies are very different). The perfect society is not the one that lies to people about their bodies, but the one that almost indistinguishably makes people want to be their best version!
I want to clarify that I say all this with respect and I don't want anyone to feel attacked, no one should feel bad about their body, but they should worry about it and try to improve! 😊

[Anemone978]

@Sanser Well like I said I understand you shouldn't encourage it... but I think people shouldn't worry so much about other peoples bodies, it isn't anyone's business. That is why so many people have eating disorders in the first place. Anorexic people want to have the perfect bodies, but take things too far and lose sight of what is perfect. Fat people eat too much to cope with the shit people say about them on the daily. Just stop judging people on their bodies and telling them this is how you should be/should look and people would probably get in a better place.

[raeliminal]

Sadly men are held to higher expectations to be fit and rich, while women are praised for wanting a rich and buff man. In a relationship with any gender, I would look for someone who takes care of themselves and has drive in their life. Weight and money itself doesn't matter too much, as long as that person takes care of their body and life.

[Chthou95]

This woman gets it. Women can he fat asses and still get attention and date men who are in better shape than her. Men dont get that kind of shit. Men must become to be successful. That's just the way it is

[RavVid]

It is also like a man (or a woman too) having a billion dollars at 20 and splurging it in 5 years and being broke and homeless afterwards for the rest of their life.

[Snakeyes7]

Dude these people don't care. They either are too delusional to think that being fat is unhealthy and are too psychologically sunk on that idea to give it up or know that being fat is unhealthy and trying to ruin the lives of the stupid people who fall for it.

[strateguy632]

well supported mytake. good quality, regardless of reactions

[nastyb]

body positivity is to prevent bullying, not to force men to date obese women

historically a womans worth had always been based on how she looks. And this is MORALLY WRONG. No human being's worth should be judged purely by the way they look.

Body positivity is to move society away from traditionally sexist norms and expectations.

And by the way, there are PLENTY of men out there who don't mind dating a chubby girl. Not every guy prefers stick thin women.

[DextroShade]

Men valuing women based on physical beauty is no more wrong than women valuing men based on status and resources. So unless you are willing to seriously date a homeless man you can stop with the man-shaming.

[nastyb]

@DextroShade

If no woman married poor men, nobody in this world would be getting married. Because reality is... vast majority of men aren't rich. Most men make less than 100k nowadays. Even 100k isn't enough to live a nice life in todays world

[DextroShade]

You just outed yourself as a gold digger and a hypocrite by saying $100k isn't enough even though only 10% of men earn that. 80% of men fall between homelessness and $100k+ per year. A man who doesn't make at least six figures might as well be homeless to you but you dare shame men for not wanting fat women? GTFO with that bullshit!

[nastyb]

@DextroShade

Nobody would be getting married or having children if women didn't marry poor men. Truth is 90% of the population are poor. Women definitely marry and procreate with poor men

[Anonymous]

Lol, I laughed hysterically when I read this. Because like most great comedy, it is uncomfortable for some people, but 100% true.

[Chthou95]

Body positivity is a movement for ugly fat women to feel better about their own shitty choices

[Hotmodelwloser]

But u guys r a joke n bed sometimes and talk a big game and aren’t shit lol

[DarkLegacy]

I had to scroll quickly past that pic, i only just finished dinner and women are just hypocrites on this like they are on most things.

[deus_ex_sisyphus]

Whoa man you made a meme outta my Halloween costume hahaha