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Well, maybe because when men say the VS models are good-looking, they mean the VS models have good-looking faces.
To be honest, when I talk about good looks, I am really only talking about the face unless I use good-looking as an adjective to something else like "good-looking body".
Anyway, are you sure it's the same men who are saying things? Maybe they are not too skinny to these men? Because the most sensible answer would be that men have different types and preferences?
Yes. And the show is pointless. Do they even sell ONE item from the show in stores?
A couple of years ago Katy Perry performed at the show, and it was a sad sight. Next to the models, Katy looked very unattractive and they looked like stick insects.
Ardiana Lima, who lost enough weight after having her first child that she lost her looks, admitted to fasting for 2 weeks before the show. Yes, somebody who is too skinny in the first place starves herself for the show.
But that's just my opinion.
My wording and main purpose for the question got skewed when the question upgraded to popular, so my point wasn't to point out any flaws on the girls. Hell I didn't even have a picture posted... my original point was how are they considered extremely attractive to someone supposedly attracted to thick/curvy girls. I don't see the curves. I like thick and curvy girls (just a preference) and these girls don't fit the bill. What disturbs me though, from this posting, is the comments by mostly males, who think these women look athletic and don't starve themselves. Compared to a lot of other models, yes they are bigger, but none the less, as you say, they do borderline starve themselves. They have also been quoted as saying the only work out enough to stay lean, not to actually produce any muscle.
Not the case for all of them, we are all unique and different, but like you, I have read tales of VS models consuming only one solid meal a deal, juicing for weeks before a shoot/show, and water loading/fasting for weeks. Sorry guys, but that's starving yourself.
I personally don't think they look too skinny, their bodies are beautiful in their own ways.
And Beyonce's body is beautiful in its own way too (I'm not mentioning Kim Kardashian, as she had a lot of work done to her body).
Us girls need to stop putting other girls down for their body type.
I can't imagine VS models bodies being a turn off (but their body isn't the objective beauty), as it still looks toned. I can imagine bodies which look unhealthy being a turn off e. g. bony or very chubby (unhealthy).
Maybe cause men lie to women who need to lose weight by putting down fit women in their presence, all while secretly desiring women who are fit.
Anyway, being too skinny is gross, just like being too fat and Vicky secret women aren't disgusting, they are hot. I've seen them in that bra AD, they have perfect bodies.
Nah, I've been running more than I normally do shedding baby weight and was told by my hubby that skinny women are a turn off to him, and he doesn't understand why I keep trying to get skinnier. Low and behold the Victoria's Secret commercial and I was told they are really good looking upon my asking. I'm not close to them; however, nor am I fat. I'm not liking the double-standard in my household and it appears hypocritical on his part.
Cause men ate hypocrites darling. They say shit and not know why they say it. Pay attention to his actions and not what he says.
What actions am I looking for? I see staring at the TV drooling during the VS commercial and not even a glance in my direction when showering, topless whatever. That's the action I'm seeing and it pisses me off to hear the derogatory comment about my running and shedding weight.
Even if they date us looking good, they don't want us to stay looking good as it gives you option to leave.
They argue that women get fat after marriage but I see men being okay with it, and just wanting to nag and have something to argue over.
I'd get fit for me and to please myself. But know that many for and attractive girls have to deal with confusing behavior from their men, staring at other girls making rude remarks, and all types of games. I just please myself and do my best.
I watch what they do and not what they say. Because they don't always say what they mean, there's always some psychology behind it and I don't intend on losing my mind over the way someone else's works.
I like how you think. The whole fat wifey thing is a joke. In my home it's the opposite. I see an overweight hubby drooling over the young model when he should be appreciating the in-shape wife he is neglecting.
Some of them have arms that look like sticks. I bit of muscular curves there and the abs will enhance the areas that look too straight or flat. Meanwhile, I also prefer than their ribs and spine aren't too visible. They definitely have some of the most captivating smiles we'll ever see.
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I think they cater to girls with the height and legs not necessarily if the girls have thick behinds.. If you tall with long legs and a thigh gap, you're in!
They don't look that skinny. But i would say they're trying to promote a bit unrealistic body type for women. Most of these models are tall. I read somewhere that to be selected as a VS model u have to be at least 5'9". Every single one of them have this really lean body (small tits and butts). But the thing you have to remember is Victoria's secret is a lingerie manufacturing company. These models are used to capture women's attention as they are buyers. I seen the reaction most women have when they see these models :- it's a combination of admiration , self loathing , and a desire to be like them. So yeah even though these models look healthier than those rib cage showing skinny ones, they do set elitist body standards
What's found attractive and what's found desirable are not always the same. I can say a man is a good looking guy, it doesn't mean I've suddenly given up being heterosexual. Kinda like women who say they don't prefer big muscular guys but go nuts over chippendales strippers.
You're right, your're right. Chippendales strippers are cheesy though, the whole costumes and what not.
Women seem to like those slabs of meat regardless. Funny thing is the same women who love male strippers hate it when men enjoy the females.
I would rather go without both. If I had to chose one or the other I would chose the men... ONLY!!! because it would be a rare thing to have a men on the other side of the fence, being objectified and on display. Other than that novelty, I would much rather see a nude female than male. There again they are EVERYWHERE, so more and more I am beginning to appreciate the males more.
Men, being sexually visual, will always (hetero men) love a nude woman and certain segments of the population will always capitalize on that. I've never fully understood what special compensation women get from male strippers though. Women claim to not be visually based on their sexuality and yet male strippers are becoming more common.
Like I said, I think women get the ability to objectify the men and not's something we regularly get to do. I also think that women are TOLD we are not visual and think it's bullshit. I think we are, but for whatever reason society/the media keeps trying to steer us in the 'that's not lady-like' direction.
I'm just working off of what women have told me. I've seen how visual, in person, women can be about things but every time it's brought up the denials begin. And yes, women have objectified men for a long time. Not as much about their physicals, although a case can be made about how men are shamed about their genitals, but more about their income and social class. How many times do you hear women say they don't date "losers" until that "loser" becomes successful at his career then he's suddenly not a "loser" anymore? That's objectification, just not a physical one.
From this chat, I think you and I have more in common then either of us would suspect. I hope we have more opportunities to talk about these things. I like to have a woman who will give me straight, unadulterated, answers to these things. The less confusion we have as a people the better we will be in the long run.
Thanks, and I agree with you.
I believe when men say this they mean they like boobs and butts. VS models have these things. A girl who is NATURALLY skinny does not unusally have either. So by advertising standard VS models are in fact "fatter" then runway models. But i would argue most men dont understand that the average girl does not eat a donut and the weight doesn't automatically go to her boobs. It often just gives us spare tires...
Can we please stop bashing on skinny women. I'm real too! I didn't choose to be this way! I deserve just as much body positivity as any other woman in the world :/
You are exactly right!!! When my question was upgraded to popular the title got changed and the 'super skinny' got taken out of context.
VS girls are models and they have the reputation of being tall with a toned body. Comparing Kim K who is not a model, of course she is going to look different. Everyone has a preference on what they would rather see. They are a lot plus sized models out there, different companies have a certain image and they base their models on which audience they are trying to reach.
Not necessarily, but there should be some ladies with average weight as well. Showing a variety of decent weights would give a better idea of how they might look on the buyer. They’re supposed to be advertising, not giving guys something to stare at. lol
@trola612 I’m not good with numbers.
these models have unique special measurements...
they are thin yes but they are well proportioned aren't they?
They are tall, slender, but most of them also have curves, they aren't straight either...
they have long limbs...
they are very sexy... very feminine
Yeah. They have all those thin women. Bleh. Adore Me and American Eagle's Aerie have much better looking models. Even though you have a preference, you can still appreciate someone's appearance. You aren't limited to just what you like to enjoy other things.
Yes absolutely. I have gone their to buy a girlfriend something she kept looking at and they didn't even make it in her size. So know if you are a F cup you are out of luck there.
Yep, that's true. They only go up to a 40 DDD, which in reality isn't big, even when just considering the cup size.
I think so. I also think if Victoria's Secret had models of all shapes they would get more money, because for the longest time I didn't think VS had bras and panties that would fit me so I wouldn't go in the store, I probably wouldn't go in because it's expensive.
I hear ya... and they are also excluding women with super large bust as they only go up to a DDD.
I don't think they are too skinny. I know a lot of people who are skinnier than Victora secret models that men and woman still find to be attractive. Of course bigger girls can also be attractive.
I just looked up all the Victoria's Secret Models, and none of them are unhealthily skinny. Kim Kardashian is not attractive, by the way. Why you would compare VS models to her, I don't know.
Ugh, I don't really find her attractive either. I couldn't come up with a thicker public figure on the fly... Jennifer Lopez, Beyoncé, Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Shakira... better examples I think.
@trola612 Yeah that's kinda what I'm not understanding... if your body preference is 'in-shape and thick' as you say... then how does the VS models fit this preference (they're great looking)? I'm not saying they don't look good, they are not the build of woman I prefer visually, I just was hoping to see if I was just being a hater by stating that they are NOT what one considers 'in-shape and thick'.
Karlie Kloss retired a few years ago? I'm talking about current models
To me, for someone that prefers 'in-shape and thick', I wouldn't see how they find them attractive or desirable.
The only "in shape and thick" is if you have muscle. Otherwise you're just carrying excess body fat
this is what I am thinking of...
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@trola612 I know, it's ridiculous. I run, lift, and eat a modest diet... I don't starve. I could easily run 6 or 7 miles and have done much further when training... yet, I am at the tippy top of my BMI, and I look nothing like the VS models. I'm more like the Iskra Lawrence, Jennifer Lopez build. I can't see these models actually eating.
@trola612 I don't see which one you are referring to?
@Negrodamu5 Correct; Kim K is not attractive at all, and hasn't been for about ten or eleven years.
Most of them are athletic, not super skinny. When I think of too skinny, I think of Eugenia Cooney.
I agree. I don't think they look super skinny either. I would have been better versed to omit the super. I do think they look skinny though. I can't say they look athletic. To me they just look like models. They look like women who meticulously watch what and how much they eat, and only work out just enough to stay lean.
Yeah, they're not athletic looking at all, just really skinny. And Eugenia Cooney is so disgusting. She actually looked nice prior to being this Anorexic Goth chick...
Not one of them is "too skinny".
They just look like normal sized women to me.
I personally prefer a little more skinny than that, even.
Since I prefer petite, and the VS girls are pretty big women.
They are no way normal sized women. Most of them are 180 cm tall, weigh 55 kgs and have 34 inches hips. It's unnatural to have 33 inches hips when you are 180 cm/6ft tall. That's super skinny. Normal sized women are from 5'4-5'7, weigh the same or 5 kgs more and have 35-36 inches hips
@trola612 "Fitness models and athletes are healthy to me "
Anllela Sagra is 175cm and has a hip of 34 inches, same measurements as Miranda Kerr, for example.
Besides, all of these models exercise their asses off on a daily basis, and would put a "normal", "healthy" woman to shame with their physical health.
Some normal, healthy exercise their a sees too on a daily basis. Besides these women are paid to look good
Sophia Loren had measurements of 38-24-38 and was 5'9, the perfect hourglass figure. Monica Bellucci is 5'7, 36-25-35, also an hourglass figure. Marilyn was 36-22-36 and 5'6. I doubt any man would turn these women down. Some guys would actually prefer these to VS models. But even just on face, they beat them any day.
Your example looks slender and in-shape.. I think she looks good, except for I'm not really into breast implants, especially when I am supposed to be appreciating her health/fitness. That's the problem with fitness models... so many of them get implants, would take away their credibility for giving a damn about their health. As far as the VS models being more fit than a 'normal' healthy woman I would wonder if that's fact. The fitness model sure, but the VS model... I'm not seeing it. I lift heavy, and run anywhere between 17-23 miles a week. I also eat modestly. I am not even CLOSE to looking like a VS model, but I bet I could lift/run circles around them. We ALL are built differently and have our own healthy. My body is one that will bulk easily with minimal effort and I don't even HAVE to eat/drink anything to complete a 13/15 mile run. My body is NVR going to look small unless I'm starving, in which case I wouldn't have any fuel to lift/run.
Well man they may be a bit *tall* but they're still definitely very slim.
@Anon-ymous1 agreed they are very tall compared to the average.
No, they're naturally ectomorphic girls. It's the way they're built.
That's a cool way to put it... interesting though, that men are supposedly biologically predisposed to be attracted to 'child-bearing' bodies, and the ectomorph is not the 'child-bearing' build
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying they are not visually attractive, they are not my preference in body type, but I can be attracted to them... BUT, young yes, athletic no. I say this because I have read their workouts/diets, and other than how a wrestler may fast/water-load for weigh-ins, the typical athlete does not treat their body like this.
Really, I have heard that models in general use drugs but not VS models in particular?
Ugh, that's a horrible stereotype but I get the point.
That body type can be sexy though if one abstains from eating the tortilla, and there are benefits to that body type lol.
@lala5556 yeah they do... they take the ectomorph body-type he is describing and jack it up a level... that's why it bothers me they are being described as athletes, because it's not true. Working out just enough to prevent yourself from gaining any muscle is not an athlete.
As a female marine in boot camp for 3 months, we all, for the most part anyway, benefitted from the same amount of calories and physical training each day. At the end of 3 months, some of us appeared emancipated, some of us were muscular/thick-shaped (like myself---I'm the tortilla abstaining girl lol), and some actually managed to pudge up... not sure how that occurred but it did lol. The point though is that there is a clear example of the different body-types, their benefits, and their limitations.
Yep, same here. I hate it because I enjoy eating and cooking, But I also enjoy maintaining a certain figure. What I do like about is that I enjoy distance -running, and I can do a whole half without taking in any fuel. I also don't mind the muscle I get from lifting heavy weights because it has a little bit of fat over it anyways preventing me from looking all manly and such lol.
haha, we all were emancipated, but it should have read emanciated
i don't think so, i think they look great! they probably are technically underweight based on their BMI but they work out a LOT and as far as what I've read, aside from the 2 weeks before the runway show, they eat healthy balanced diets.
i'd say yes. i imagine most are considered underweight and don't really convey a realistic or healthy image
however i do feel like victoria secret models are not as scarily skinny as some seen in modeling ads
They're skinny, but by no means are they super skinny. I think a good example of a super skinny model is Kaia Gerber; if you compare her body to VS models, you'll see that the latter are actually athletic.
And Kim Kardashian's body is way too deformed by all the surgery she's had. Her body may be considered curvy, but not in a good way.
Personally I consider all the VS models need to seriously get some meat on their bones.
And most, if not all of them, certainly do not represent the majority of women's bodies/figures.
"Too skinny" implies there's a problem; I don't have a problem with any of these ladies. If they have one themselves, then yes, they're too skinny. If they don't, then no, they aren't.
Yes I know... girlsaskguys changed the question title on me and used the words 'too skinny' when they upgraded it to 'great question'
Ah, I hate that. to answer the question from the explanatory gloss (if a man specifically states that he is turned off by super skinny women, and likes them thicker, then why would he state that a model is really good looking. Specifically, Victoria's Secret Models... how would they not be considered super skinny?) that's a matter of where you draw the line. I equate "super skinny" with "emaciated"{ those who look like they've been starved). None of these model qualify. THIS is "too skinny": www.independent.ie/.../...he-catwalk-31080406.html
Yes, but would you consider these women to be skinny or thick?
Neither. Were I categorizing them, I'd say "slender", not "skinny".
for me they are sexy as hell but i see your point. other lingerie firms do use bigger models and some smaller models believe it or not
If they were clothed in jeans and a t-shirt you would find them sexier than say a Jennifer Lopez, Scarlett Johansson build?
Honestly most men aren't attracted to models bodies. They are catered for women's standards of beauty, not men. Since when do you see a man saying ' I want a 6'0 super athletic and skinny woman with a rectangle or V shaped body' ? Most of guys like shorter girls with curves or even short skinny girls.
I honestly think models bodies aren't attractive at all. I doubt that many men find them attractive , only women think that.
To answer the original question though VS secret models in my opinion are too skinny.
But they have the body type that would look bad with extra weight , so I guess being that skinny suits them.
Well, I posted a similar post with picture poll of a VS model and Iskra Lawrence, and it's close to 50/50. Interestingly enough, more women like the fuller, womanly body, whereas the men were kind of evenly divided.
Maybe thats just the people in this website?
I think though it's very obvious that in real life men prefer curvier or more normal weight women. I have never met a guy who actually said he likes stick thin model bodies.
You're right... the results could have been skewed based upon the fact that it's only people who enjoy blogging/chatting on this kind of website. I will say this, and this is what prompted me to post this in the first place. My husband specifically stated, and has always stated, history and all, that he prefers thick, curvier women, yet when I asked him about the VS models on a commercial his words were "really attractive". I stated to him that they are skinny, and his response was that they "are not that skinny". In my opinion, they are polar opposite when compared to a curvy female. So I have no idea what to think, and hence why I posted the question.
I think a lot of men are into the confidence they display in the VS shows? Or maybe the legs? and some of those models have attractive faces but that's as far as It goes. I doubt irl many men would find them attractive though, sure not all men are like this but most men are and it's way different to see someone in motion rather than just in pics and the shows they're on.
Yes those models are very skinny I agree with you, I have no clue why a man who says he likes thick women would like a VS models body.
YUP. They're not attractive to me at all. I've never and never will be attracted to 6'0 rectangular bodies/V shape. I like short girls that are about 4'11 or 5'1 and are either skinny or curvy.
I honestly don't think most men could pint out a Victoria's model to be honest I know I can't and if she is indeed to skinny I will say she is not attractive
Most of them are thin and athletic. The 5th from the left is super skinny though, just look at her arms.
They're not too skinny, they look amazing to me! Certainly a combination of hard work and great genetics.
They are curvy (waist hip ratio and boobs) but not thick. As for attractive, I'm not into girls but they're very pretty.
No. Most are unbelievably hot. ALTHOUGH they aren't generally the hottest models out there. Those would be the "slim and stacked" models of the old "lads mags" or the models for small-back, big cup lingerie. SOOOOOO hot!
Nope, I work with models and these chicks are fat in comparison.
they are super skinny , i like some muscle on those bones
Uh, no... they're fucking hot.
And Kim Kardashian is an unattractive skank.
Most of them bony.
Like ew you could see their ribs
I agree. I think they look fit, but I certainly wouldn't say they are curvy/thick. You can see their ribs. I appreciate women's bodies myself and prefer thicker women... Scarlett Johansson, Jennifer Lopez, Beyoncé, etc. I think men just like them because they prance around half-naked on the tv, as if they are on their for their personal enjoyment.
Um... they're hot as hell.
@Anon-ymous1 right have fun with an anerouxic
If you think these girls aren't attractive, you're insane. And they aren't anorexic. Whatever, man.
@Anon-ymous1 I agree that they are attractive; however, my preference for a woman's body is more hips, ass, boobs... more of a shape I guess you could say. My intentions wasn't to hate on them (GAG changed the wording of my main question when it got popular). I will say this though, if you ever read about their daily diets they truly eat very little, very, very little. One even stated that she gained weight from doing a juicing diet. Just saying, don't be naïve and think that the stupid burger commercials with the model wolfing down the hamburger and fries actually happens more than a couple times a year.
They're definitely "shapely" as is.
@Anon-ymous1 That's your opinion and that's fine; however, I prefer more of an hourglass figure than banana... side-note though, Adriana Lima has curves and in my opinion stands out from the others because of it! Anyhow, not that there is anything wrong with banana, just saying. They are beautiful... but, I appreciate more hips, small waist, more bum, thicker legs, perhaps larger breast. Examples, Kat Dennings, Katy Perry, Iskra Lawrence, Salma Hayek, etc. VS models, while beautiful, and other than Adriana Lima, just don't have the waist to hip ratio that describes a thick hourglass. Most of the have A/B bra sizes, which is fine, it's proportionate to them, and it sells because it demonstrates how well the bra works. AND the bras do work, having a smaller cup size myself, when in a VS bra I can have cleavage that looks as round as a models ass.
All those girls in that pic above have an hourglass figure. Are we looking at the same picture? What are you looking at? I see a lot of hourglass.
@Anon-ymous1 An hourglass figure is having the almost same exact measurements in the bust as in the hips with the waist taken in 10 or more inches. These girls for the most part would be classified as having the banana-shaped body as they are slender from top to bottom with 9 inches or less in the waist.
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Here are some pics... one classic hourglass and the other banana... both are beautiful
Nah. They're hourglass. They're just slimmer and hotter.
Though, Salma Hayek did used to be very, very hot, it's true.
my bad... here is the VS model banana shape
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Well, yeah, that's a bad example-- she has no tits.
@Anon-ymous1 LOL, she does in the lingerie pic because she has a very good BRA... most of the VS models have A/B cup boobs... which there is nothing wrong with having. What you and I see in the pictures, ads, shows, are the models in a padded pushup bra. Hell, VS sells bras that increase boobs by 2 cup sizes. The bikinis that VS sells also includes the padding. They know how to pop their hips out, and in the magazine ads they have even photoshopped to increase the size of the model's hips, deeper cleavage etc. Un-doctored photos in clothing do not lie.
I'm not hating on them... they are beautiful, but aside from Adriana Lima, some of the retired VS models, and maybe one of the others, they all have A/B cup boobs, banana shaped bodies, and rely on padded push-up bras, great angels and photo-shop to achieve the classic hourglass shape.
Yeah I know that they wear push ups.
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Anyways, a good bra can work miracles.
It definitely can. Still, I'll take slimmer with slightly smaller tits, even though big tits are preferable, over a girl who is bigger. I, like most guys, want a girl who I can carry to bed; give piggyback rides to; pick up and dance around with in the park and kiss. A bigger girl weighs too much to do that, most of the time, even for guys who lift, like me.
@Anon-ymous1 you say that, BUT, those models actually weigh the same as some curvier girls since they are like 5'10" and up. In fact, Salma Hayek actually weighs less... and yeah, yeah, I know bad example because she is old for your generation, but like Katy Perry, she runs about 15 pounds more than the models
Lol@ "my generation," I don't know what that means. Yeah, VS models are too tall. We all know that.
Anyhow, this is beating a dead horse. They are all attractive in their own way, everyone has their own preference. You prefer taller/slender females, I prefer shorter curvier females. I'm not really concerned with toting them anywhere lol, I just enjoy looking at them :).
@Anon-ymous1 your generation...20's, Salma Hayek is older like myself
oh damn, actually she is like 10 years older!!! wow, I didn't realize that.
Well, there's really no way to know how old I am just from an anonymous Internet profile... not to mention that girls can be attractive no matter how old they are, depending on circumstances. It's rarer as people age, sure, but it's possible.
Where are their ass’s at? I need a magnifying glass to find them. They might as well be starving themselves
No, they have a good body figure to present underwear. That what they are there for.
I would agree with you if they were presenting them to genuinely be serving only as models for the lingerie.
There are presenting them as more than that, because it's good for money. Or how do you think a company would survive by presenting their models as display dummies? Pretty bad i guess. Also: it is pretty convenient and easy to display them as more than that, since they ARE more than that. It is not their fault that they are pretty. And while a lot of them might have obscured perceptions on beauty and themselves, on a free market, they can do whatever the heck they want with whatever they have. Or don't have for that matter.
Ugh... to be very honest, that wasn't even my original question. When the website upgraded it to a 'great question' they changed the wording on me.
So now, everyone coming in later are answering a question that I didn't even post. My original question, was basically asking if VS models would be considered thick or skinny.
Those girls look like they need to get down to "Greg's" or "The Pound Baker", great range of pies, and all for a quid or less.
Thick & curvy = sexy, Thin & Bony = go eat a nutritious meal then I'll consider dating you.
BECAUSE VICTORIA'S SECRET MODELS AREN'T MODELLING FOR MEN!!!
What a mystery!
They are impressive and they can turn on any guy...
I don't really like that kind of model, I prefer plus size.
Yes, some of them have boobs larger than an A or B cup which makes them look good.
They are skinny yes, but they are athletic and have a proportionate body. That’s what makes them hot
A skinny body with lethargic frame and too boney or disproportionate structure is unattractive.
So nice to see so many guys on here trying to make you all fat ladies feel better.
Some here are pretty skinny but who am i to judge
They have really pretty faces so that helps
Definitely too skinny.
Not all there fitness models.
Yes they get skinnier year after year than the 90's models n its unrealostic or should i say its mot your everyday girl n thinking gigi hadid is curvy is a joke she's skinny but i guess countries differ we have lots of curvy woman like kimk amber rose black chyna most people here thats average weight
They are for me. Not a fan of that body shape.
Kim K is oogly. Only weird man find her attractive
Yeah, bad example on the thick part.
I don't like thick. I like slim-curvy but truly these models are too skinny.
Whose an example of having a slim-curvy body?
Charlotte Mckinney
Ok, I see it now. Thanks.
You call those twigs of human beings women?
Just to specify, I'm not hating on these women nore their builds. I just had someone tell me that they like thicker women, not skinny... then turn around and state that they are really good looking. For my preference, other than their glossy skin and smiles, they really doing nothing for me sexually. I reckon they are pretty though...
Yes, you and a number of other men are stating this... one's who like even tinier and one's who prefer thicker. We are tired of only enjoying what the media tells us we should. From a woman's pov... I am also tired of the media telling me that I should be disgusted by a nude male on tv or in a movie.
Jox, so we should appreciate more body types, but not those? This is what sells best. It's what works for money. It is not someone's fault, nor is it wrong, to call these twigs of human beings women. Or beautiful.
@FrankJaeger1985 If you came to like skinny women on your own then I don't diss you for that. In my opinion skinny women are only popular because they are pushed that way. If you look at old paintings, sculptures and etcetera, voluptuous women were revered.
Is it what sells best? What's your opinion on why it sells better than the alternatives?
Perception of beauty has always changed. Back in those days it was a display of wealth. To have a tummy and such i mean. Today it means that you work, work out, do yoga and all that nonsense. All in all, some women are born one way, some another. Some women have the ability to change their shape into another by working hard, some don't. Men too, but girls just seem to care mkre. Which is why they are more easily to make them spend money on their beauty. Why they are more sensitive to their appearence might be linked to the fact that this way they have a broader spectrum of men they can choose from. You know, evolution and shit.
I like big girls b. t. w. but fucking this skinny kind is a blast aswell. Essentially it is not about how they look. Sex wise. And brains wise. And caring wise. The only thing you can hold against women who are perceived as hell of sexy by most people (the ones we are talking about!) Is that they had a lot less fighting to do do achieve things in life. And that is just the way things are. I would choose an average woman over a very sexy one in a blink over this fact. But that is only if i had to choose without getting to know them. And since that is never the case in this modern age, at least in the western world, i can proudly say that yes, i come to defend sexy hot victoria chicks. Just because they are hard working twigs of human beings. More or less hard working. But that doesn't matter.
I would guess because in the past pale and fat people were rare and a symbol of wealth because they got to stay indoors and feed themselves a lot while in today's world skinny and tan (the state of peasants in the past) has become more rare due to our lavish first world lifestyles. Because it has become less common people view it as a status symbol.
That or it's just because gay people have predominant control over fashion and don't understand what makes women beautiful.
@FrankJaeger1985 If I was just going off of perceptions, I would assume that these women are very focused on their appearance, as they should be I guess as a model, and likely really superficial. In other words... I wouldn't think they are running, doing pilates for their health, but rather only so they will fit into a size 0.
@chopper, it sells best, because the lingerie looks best on them, because of their toned figures. They basically have no "unnecessary" fat tissue on them. It looks freaking great honestly. It reminds men of sex because those bodies are light, accessible, their tits and ass look good... you can't describe beauty. Not sure why stuff is working. But believe me, the industry would change if they could use no matter what kind of girls to sell their stuff. I mean, having to choose from a pretty narror spectrum of girls, most of them full of themselves... it would be a fucking relief for every one involved if they could just use any girl without looking at what they look like whatsoever. Many companies have done it. But it is always just a pr move to show how "incredibly diverse" they are. Nice media coverage for free
@chopper. They might be. But maybe diet is about much more than all the yoga stuff. It is pretty hard to eat the right amount of the right stuff while still having to stay focused and up on your legs for hours for thos shoots and all. In the 90's there was a hell of a lot of stupid stuff going on with anorexia, drugs and stuff. Today, that is still a thing of course, i mean cocaine is a wonderful thing if you're smart. But PR is focused a lot on covering up that kinda shit because it destroys the company's image. So it's cheaper, and also a better thing to do, to get these girls some good health coaches and really strict diet and training programs. It's not aboit being the skinniest anymore. It's about having curves and lifestyle. You know, instagram with a Canon1DMll and a makeup team basically.
"Oh look, she really is that way. Being a model must be so easy"... yea, sure ;)
Off of perceptions, that is psychology. I don't know. Maybe my point about "only the amount of fat that keeps you human, and nothing more" is the key. (I'm paraphrasing myself here)
@FrankJaeger1985 But see, I honestly don't think it looks great. I would be drawn to them in workout/running pants etc. but not in lingerie or bedroom attire. Their build is not something that I find arousing, just being honest. When I think of going to bed with a woman, AKA in lingerie, I am thinking of this : www.bing.com/.../search
These women look like the know how to hit the pavement... therefore I would be drawn to them if selling me workout attire.
That's alright. I mean no one is suggesting you should find them beautiful. It would be weird for you to judge people who do, and you don't seem to be doing that, so that's cool. I'm not sure what you problem is anymore. Are you suggesting victoria secret models should be looking like iskra lawrence models?
@FrankJaeger1985 Nope. My significant other basically stated that his preference is the Iskra Lawrence body-type, and then proclaimed the VS models are being "great-looking" women. I was trying to understand that better.
Nothing more... nothing less.
Well, i guess he prefers IL types. But VS are hot too. And i am totally on his side b. t. w.
@FrankJaeger1985 What does the IL stand for?
Iskra lawrence. I never heard of them before. But by your link, i can't say i'd ever say no to one.
@FrankJaeger1985 She's a plus-size lingerie/swim model.
Oh, i get it. So yeah, she's hot. Basically he and i like more than just one type of women. But that's not a surprise, is it?
@FrankJaeger1985 Lol, I guess I found it surprising. That's where I screwed up I reckon.
I guess xD
Or do you like only one type of men? I mean, maybe you do, but that's rare.
@FrankJaeger1985 Your kinda right... I don't lol. I am pretty open to men... I have my loves, but I appreciate others. I'm pretty particular with women though which I reckon isn't really fair of me.
It's not unfair at all. You can't be wrong for that. As long as you don't expect other to like things the way you like them, you can like and dislike whatever you want ;)
No. They all look quite healthy.
Yeah absolutely
If you can see their rib cage then yes.
yeah i dont like them they are way too thin
Yes absolutely there's no doubt about it
I think all models are fucking disgusting
I think more average size is more attractive
Sadly, the average girl in America is... kinda fat, dude. We have an obesity epidemic and we're normalizing being overweight. It's insane.
Yes.
yesss way to skinny
Not too skinny
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