Speaking as a Muslim hijabi girl, nobody has ever forced me to dress modestly or wear the hijab. I remember my parents suggesting that I should wear the hijab when I started secondary school, but I told them I didn't want to and they were like "okay" and told me it's best I wear the hijab when I decide to wear it. Fast forward six years, and I decided to start wearing it and I remember at first, I didn't even tell my dad lol, he just saw me put it on one day and he didn't even say anything lol.
I don't dress modestly because men tell me to, I dress modestly for the sake of God, and I actually started wearing the hijab pretty recently. And one thing that made me decide to wear the hijab, was actually the oppression that Muslim girls are facing in France today- the French Senate has proposed a Bill that would ban all girls under the age of 18 from wearing the hijab, they're trying to ban wearing the hijab at universities, mothers who wear the hijab will not be allowed to attend school trips with their children, the hijab is banned in schools, burkinis are banned, hijab is banned for public workers such as teachers, and I actually have a friend in France who is a Muslim girl, and she's really opened my eyes.
She can't wear a hijab to school so she wears a hoodie and a hat to cover her hair instead but even then she can't always do that because her teachers know she is Muslim and she says they'll condemn her for it because she does it for religious reasons, she was crying because she wants to be a teacher yet they banned the wear of hijabs for teachers and I remember she actually said to me crying: "I'm going to become a poor housewife" and that absolutely broke my heart, she skips swimming classes because they don't allow her to cover her body and she doesn't feel comfortable exposing her body, and one time her mother was going to not let her skip swimming and again she was crying to me on the phone saying to me: "I know God will forgive me for the sin, but I just don't wanna go, I just don't wanna go" and may I add just to save people from confusion as to why her mother would make her go to swimming classes- her family isn't Muslim, she's the only Muslim person in her family she converted to Islam last year after learning about the religion.
And hearing her, and just seeing the oppression going on in France of my Muslim sisters, made me realize how lucky I actually am to have the right to wear the hijab, and I didn't want to take that right for granted anymore.
What I don't understand is, when women are forced to wear the hijab and dress modestly against her will- people are outraged, as they should be nobody should be forced to do anything against their will. But why don't we have the same energy when women and girls are forced to dress immodestly against their will? What I don't understand is, where are these feminists when it comes to speaking for the oppression of Muslim women in France? They say my body, my choice but please have that same energy when talking about countries oppressing Muslim women by banning the hijab and niqab. There are actually zero countries in the world that mandate niqab by law- yet in the contrary there's several countries that ban the niqab by law. I mean especially now, when wearing masks in many places is mandatory if people weren't so Islamophobic niqabis could be used as examples for people who say "i can't breathe" when wearing a mask because niqabis can breathe.
Moreover, the double standard when it comes to modest clothing vs immodest clothing oppressing women is astounding. If you look at certain cases of modern slavery in the UK, women who prefer modesty often get forced to wear clothing they view as immodest such as mini-skirts, tight tops exposing clevage etc, I remember in one case I was learning about an organisation rescued a woman who was a victim of modern slavery and one of the first things they said she said to them was: "I didn't like the clothes they made me wear" and for context, the woman came from a conservative background, she preferred modesty but they (the people who held her captive as a modern slave) made her wear revealing clothing, that she was not comfortable with. Yet if we see a girl wearing a mini-skirt or exposing clevage nobody would ask her if she oppressed, or need to verify that it's her choice to wear that clothing. Because just because a number of modern slavery cases exist where women are forced to wear immodest clothing exist, does not mean every woman who wears immodest clothing is made to wear it against her will, right? Because it would be foolish to assume that, right? So why is it when it comes to women wearing hijab we hear of cases where women are forced to dress modestly and wear the hijab (which is wrong), a number people apply that to every single hijabi or Muslim woman who dresses modestly? I'm not saying cases of force when it comes to the hijab and modesty don't exist, what I am saying is that is not every girl's story, and in my experience that is certainly not the story of the vast majority of Muslim girls and women I have seen and met.
Hijab is my crown, my hijab frees and liberates me, and anyone who tells me otherwise is ignorant.
Not a hijabi or niqabi, but the fact that men don't find it attractive when a woman wears it proves the entire POINT of it, lol. Literally, the more I realize how much this world is willing to exploit women's beauty the more I want to make the switch.
It depends on the definition of "modest". I was in a store in South Africa a couple of years ago and a Muslim girl was working, being very careful with her scarf to make sure her hair was covered and her sleeves had to cover her wrists. I would have been impressed with her modesty if her neckline hadn't plunged so deep you could see underboob.
Religious modesty is a sham. When St Paul said about women keeping their heads covered it was because culturally the women who didn't tended to be prostitutes. What he was actually saying was "don't dress like a whore"!
I have a friend who is a doctor who has several Muslim patients who see her for gynaecology issues. She nearly jumped out of her tree when one of them had very kinky underwear on under her very "modest" outerwear. Another came through wearing what she described as a "dominatrix" leather outfit under her outwardly "modest" clothing.
I have more respect for the girls who leave something to the imagination and then let you see if you're right than for someone who hides a kink behind a religious front.
Regarding the last part, what is wrong with a modest dresser having kinks? Are we supposed to have no sexuality or are we obligated to be public about it? I love lingerie, I see no reason why me dressing modestly contradicts that.
I never said there was anything wrong with it. Just that when someone comes in wearing full niqab it caught her off guard.
And there's a big difference between lingerie and the 50 Shades stuff that freaked her out. From what I gather the panties had a solid mount for a prosthetic. And I don't mean leg. Maybe not the best item to wear for a gynae visit.
I'm not a prude, but people who meet me at church assume I'll be one. When they see what I looked like 25 years ago they get a shock. Everyone has stuff inside. I'm not saying have no sexuality, just maybe don't wear a strapon to visit your OBGYN...
I find women you dress modestly, or at least attempt to, to be more attractive. What I mean is if I was dating, I wouldn't want my girlfriend to be wearing revealing clothing out in public, or around me until we were married, and I wouldn't want her wearing revealing clothing in public after we married, either. If we were married, and she was wearing revealing clothing in the privacy of our own home, and it was just the two of us, that would be fine.
I’m full support of them whatever they wear. As for the hijab, its seem some might not even understood about their code of clothing. Being to numerous country especially in south east asia. Hijab is not even being forced or coerced to wear. There were even female muslim who do bot wear hijab just like the western counterparts. In fact, even a muslim community in communist china wear hijab. I don’t think that an atheist government will force muslim to adhere to their own religion. Its making the west more like wanted to shove their style of cloth onto the muslim. Now thats not her choice.
1. In a society full of desperate attention whores, it's refreshing to see someone who might not be desperate. 2. It doesn't prove that her character is really different than the woman wearing a g-string to go shopping for groceries BUT it's a strong indication.
"modestly": fine. dressing like religious extremists: naw thanks. note that you asked for "my personal preference" not for "what i should think the entire society should be like". i don't care or the latter part. people can dress how they want. this is "my" preference.
The gifts that are the most fun to unwrap are those that are wrapped elegantly and well. I like surprises and find there is no fun if I can see through the wrapping paper. But if we get to the point where we will be sharing a bedroom, then I absolutely adore finding something slutty under all that wrapping, perhaps some sexy French lingerie with lots of lace and fishnets that only I get to see.
I think it's absolutely her choice. If it's what she wants to wear, I'm 100% behind it, but if it's being forced on her, that I disagree with. I don't mind modest clothing, but I have major issues with how modesty culture really only supports misogyny and rape culture.
Nothing, I dress modest most of the time but sometime I wear more revealing style, it depend on my mood. I would say usually dressing modest 100 % of the time is not that interesting (unless they follow trends and wear bright color).
I FULLY support it as I am one of those women who dresses modestly, I keep my butt, stomach and cleavage covered. But I still wear shorts, tank tops, etc.
Mostly I don’t think of it. I don’t think about whether a woman is dressed modestly or immodestly. It’s her choice. When a woman is in concealing clothes she’s signaling that she does not want to be approached.
@vald9inches The hijab? The veil? This is not just an Islamic thing. There are plenty of stories of young women removed from American classrooms for modesty violations. The restrictions on American school girls are not as extreme but they come from exactly the same feeling -- that women have a duty to avoid being temptations to men. In Western countries, when adult women who choose the hijab or the veil, they have more choice than we impose on girls attending school.
@vald9inches Bruh. Its her and their choice. How come when someone wear something apposite with western culture its consider oppression but when a school or institution in west enact some kind of policy its consider as institutional freedoms or seen as the opposite of the national culture?
@vald9inches The problem is there are no slavery. Can you tell me which part is slavery? The only oppression I can see here is you trying to force your choice onto them. Its their own freedom and their own choice. Do you even mingle around with muslim community or into other muslim country?
@vald9inches LOL. Bruh. Are you trying to make joke with me? 😂😂
A video who are condoning her ex religion. A video and you make assumption thats all hijab wearing as slavery? How blatantly ignorant you are? I can extract numerous link regarding ex-christian, ex-hindus, ex-buddha, ex-jew and even ex-atheist that are condoning their past ex religion. Even I can upload my own video and condoning religion. Does that make any sense to you? Does that make every religion and even atheist as oppression and slavery?
You your self stated that you are living in muslim country. Than do you even mingle around with the muslim community? Living in a muslim country does not necessary mean you understand or even understood what your own country are. Or are you even understand why they wear hijab? Even I understand it that it is her choice if she wanted to don it or not. Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei and even Iran do not even have that kind of so called slavery. So what is this so called slavery you mention when there are no slavery.
@vald9inches Dude. You can easily search in the internet. Lots can be access in the form of video, article, court etc. Just like @slatyb mention, it is easy to find documentation on christianity. Here are a example of video you can spend your time www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=NNdgGttyvyA
You yourself still haven’t answer my question. Which part is slavery? What slavery when the women even in those islamic country can wear on and off depends on her choice. This is just blatantly islamophobic.
I too support them... I myself am kinda a modest person, I never show skin or wear short skirts... If you're besutiful and feminine you don't need to reveal your (private parts, I mean chest, legs,) To others.
I actually like them more. If she´s showing less in public I´m not interested in muslim women but generally are modest women way more attractive and they are more likely to be seen as a possible girlfriend by me and most guys I know.
I'm with you , it's like anything ,, I think every one has the choice to be who they want to be and dress how they they want to dress or do anything else they want to do and when people do so I love the beauty that the brings out of them
Literally no girl would dress modestly if they werent under guidance from their brother/father/family/community. This is a copout way of saying "i believe more girls should dress sluttily like they really want to". I disagree, slutty dresses are a kind of sexual assault.
The world isn't so complicated. Every act is a power play. Assault is the misuse of power against another person. If you wear slutty clothes you are abusing the soul of onlookers. This is sexual abuse 101.
Modest to me is not what is portrayed in the above photos which display women in religious garments. Modest women to me simply do not show too much cleavage or ass. Religious garments are just a symbol of indoctrination from a society of primitive ideologies.
I wholeheartedly support it since it is her choice to dress modestly.
I do find women who dress modestly more attractive than those who prefer to expose their body to everybody. The way I see it is when women dress modestly it's like a treasure waiting to be found by the right person.
If these pictures are your idea of modest dressing then yes, although I prefer to see the whole face, I will admit. Hard enough to try to read a lady with facial expressions, let alone an eyes only view. Of course with this pandemic, we are ALL wearing masks, and most are not wearing the clear ones that show the face. I do prefer women who dress soft and feminine, as your pics here indicate, that is still possible without being immodest.
I support both modest and not modest women. It is funny how men can walk topless and show off his abs like a male cunt but if i a woman dress non modest she get slut-shamed. I personally prefere men who dress modestly
To be honest most girls wear hijab because they are pressured or forced in my experience or they do it because of religious influence. I am living example.
@Beautyforeverybody It really bothers me when women do things like “Slutwalks” claiming that “it’s my body, my choice” and “free the nipples” then denigrate women who choose to dress modestly! I believe it’s hypocrisy of the highest order! You have a right to dress as slutty as you please, but a woman who chooses the opposite is somehow “oppressed” or she is “not smart enough to understand that she is free to dress like a slut”! I DO have a major problem when certain countries mandate by law that women dress head to toe in a black sack with only an eye slit, which serves to absorb as much or the suns energy as possible, making the women hotter than hell! Yet the men wear lightweight, white fabric (to reflect the sun’s energy and keep them cool) if the women could choose to also wear white, I’d still have an issue with it, but not nearly as much! Especially when the reason for this dress code is so that women don’t tempt men to rape them! How about you just make it illegal to rape women, and teach families that if your daughter was raped not only is it NOT HER fault, but it does not bringing dishonor to your family, but being allowed to stone your daughter to death for being raped, is the most abhorrent thing I could imagine!
@CrazyGirl2 Interestingly enough there’s zero countries in the entire world that mandate the niqab, yet I think over 10 countries ban women from wearing it. And a Niqab can be white too.
And I do appreciate what you’re saying about the whole ‘rape culture’ type mentality- though know that’s cultural, not religious.
Sometimes woman who dress modestly are more attractive than woman who put it all out there for the world to see. I respect a woman who dresses modestly.
I would agree with you, there is no place in The Quran that calls for women to be veiled only for both men and women to promote modest dressing and behaviour.
I'm unsure if you're Muslim or not, and while I agree with you on that there's no specific verse in the Quran that tells women she must wear a veil as in the niqab or burka- there is a valid difference of opinion of what is mandatory. The majority opinion is that everything must be covered with the exception of her face and hands, and the minority opinion is that the veil (. i. e. burka, niqab) is mandatory. Both opinions are legitimate. :)
Of course you can dress any way you want. Who is stopping you? But that doesn't mean other people will find it attractive. All of those outfits are a turnoff to me except maybe the third one.
Thanks for the 'likes" you two. Every outfit there is a VERY HIGH END outfit, expensive, exclusive and in my opinion, very strikingly beautiful. Any women should be overjoyed to own classy clothes like that
I think it's much better than walking around half naked. It shows a certain level of elegance in my opinion. I'm not a fan of covering the face entirely, it's dehumanizing I think.
These women in Islamic countries have too otherwise they would be raped by men. To dress modestly in an Islamic country is to court the sexual rages of Islamic men who would bend you over in an ally way if you where a western dressed woman. Funny thing is their laws would justify the men raping a women who dressed like a western whore.
I like modest, it is part of humanity. Now it seems like people find modesty evil and oppressive but this is something only humans have and so should be valued.
What do you think the have the choice to dress like that and do it for fun and not out if fear? Do you think they can say "oh i want to change my style today"?
There is nothing to think thats their personal choice. You dress in whatever you feel comfortable in where its deessing seductively or dressing modest.
Indifferent if for fashion reasons. Religious reasons I think are dumb, but thats with anything, not just clothing. Aesthetically I like skimpy stuff, cosplay, or a hoodie and sweatpants.
women with faces like that can dress anyway and they are still beautiful, they have natural beautythat's why they don't even need to dress in an extravagant way or something.
I don't think anything. I'm indifferent whether they dress modestly or revealing. It's none of my business. I'll look at something if I find it attractive that's all
I find it more appealing than the typical tita out ass out. Find it better to enjoy an actual conversation without the distractions when getting to know someone.
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