
If men say they find the ''fake'' look so unattractive, why do those girls get so much male attention?

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One argument could be that those men are liars and in fact men in general do like the fake look. Though it would be asinine to assume this argument is correct without making a case proving the premise, which holds the assertion that the majority of men claiming that the fake look is unattractive are professing lies.
But obviously you could circle around that line of logic and instead use evidence supporting the hypothesis as proof in hopes of proving the premise to be true. So you could say "because those fake looking girls get so much male attention, those men must have been lying when they said they weren't attracted to them". Except this is a specious argument, because it doesn't outright prove that those men were necessarily lying.
It's possible that those men genuinely do admonish the fake look. If this is the case, I would suspect they find those women to be undesirable romantically rather than unappealing sexually, and perhaps this is where their condemnation in terms of attraction is rooted.
So that was merely my attempt at unpacking the argument that gives the plausible yet puerile retort "obviously it's just because they're lying". Although if we're discussing arguments pertaining to deception, @Degenerate is more experienced in this area than I am, so it may be better to hear from him and his seasoned expertise of this topic.
Here's a different argument. Sure those girls get a lot of attention from men - but there are a lot of men - and there are a lot of men who don't give those girls attention. Your personal conception of the internet skews the reality you perceive. So you may believe that they get so much attention, and they do, but it might not be as much as you think it is relative to the wider population. Not saying this is an infallible argument against your charge, but there's certainly some wisdom hidden in the middle of here.
PS @Degenerate if you made it this far, travel back in time and don't read this lol. There's no wisdom to be found here even if I acted like there was in that last paragraph. Just said there was to fool the suckers lol. Also, if you made it this far and you're not @Degenerate, your eyes were not meant to see this. Plaster them shut.
lol...
Men aren't being liars. They say this with respect to women they respect for more than just sex.
Take a tatted chick with nipple and toung e piercings, fake tits, etc.. they may be someone you sleep with once. But you wouldn't introduce them to your coworkers or famiy.
The advice of bein more natural is for the girls they would
Because female hypergamy, don't get me wrong we would literally be extinct today as a species if women weren't more picky in terms of mate selection. But in average the answer for guys is VERY SIMPLE; us men, get this, SETTLE for a relationship because women on average do not want relationships (at least in terms of marriages) with men of lower financial status or educational attainments
They get attention from a subset of guys - generally guys who are themselves very shallow and self-centered, and care far more about image than substance. These are overwhelmingly NOT "relationship men", but rather men who are looking to bang a girl for the clout and then move on to the next one.
It's also indicative of "nouveau riche" - lower-class people with lower-class values who very recently gained money and status, but retain their lower-class values. Imagine poor rednecks discovering oil, becoming multi-millionaires, and moving to Beverly Hills (hmm... seems familiar for some reason...). While they might have the money to afford to live there, do you think they share any of the culture or tastes of people who have been there for generations?
Let me give you some slightly less ridiculous examples: look at Saudi royal family members, who often adorn things in gold and jewels from their oil money or buy designer clothes and bags, or people who are higher up in the drug trade, who make large amounts of money but who 5 or 10 years ago were street thugs. These people may have nice houses and expensive cars, but they also tend to have the lower-class tastes that prefer "fake" (to match their cartoonish body type preferences) over natural beauty - part of that is their own insecurity: they philosophically have to be okay with the fake look because it means that money CAN solve all of their problems - just the same way that they think that having lots of money absolves them of the crimes and harm they've caused to get rich.
If you look at people who have grown up with money, as a rule, they have more sophisticated tastes, and they prioritize natural beauty, just as they prioritize other more traditional things (such as marriage and children).
Obviously some exceptions exist (we're always generalizing here by necessity), but if you pay attention, you'll see that these things are nearly universally true.
Historically, polygamy was common because men didn't live all that long. Between dangerous jobs (which includes farming, the most common occupation) and war, there was always a shortage of able-bodied men, and lots of widows. Women in most places couldn't survive without a man, so the men with the most status and resources would be the first to take on additional wives, and then on down the hierarchy. This meant that these men had to take full responsibility for the survival of these women and any children - at a time when survival was anything but easy.
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Short lived attention yes. Until they take everything off…
Celebrities on magazine covers are prime examples of the hypocrisy some men present over "natural beauty is all." They will swoon over these photoshopped women that have spent 2 hours in a professional hair and make-up artists chair with fake nails, lashes, extensions, body slimmers, the works, and then tell the rest of us normal women that this is the look they desire because it's so natural and beautiful, but that look isn't real. It's literally created on a laptop, but like women are conditioned from birth to like the tall guy, they are conditioned to like the fake look and seek it out.
Now to their credit, I do believe a lot of guys can separate a bit of make-up looks from pounds of make-up and giant false lashes looks that border on clown like, but their vision of a natural beauty is rarely ever something that exists save for a few women. Most do end up dating/marrying a woman who at minimum wears make-up routinely.
End of the day, there is no point trying to argue what is beautiful because it's all in the eye of the beholder. If some guys like the fake look that's what they like. Its up to all of us to find our someone who likes us for what we present to the world whether that's fake or real.
I don't care for fake looking, meaning obvious makeup - overly sculpted eye brows, giant eye lashes, thick mascara, colorful eye shadow, rouge, and gaudy lipstick.
But tasteful makeup doesn't look like a mask. It can even out skin tones, hide shadows, accent certain features like eyes and lips, make lips look moist and soft, and make a girl glow. I think the "no makeup" make up look is beautiful. It shows good taste and sophistication. And it's no more fake than shaving legs and underarms, having a nice hair style, using lotions and moisturizers, or wearing flattering clothes. And God knows that it's no more superficial than tattoos or piercings.
Zero makeup is only works for adolescents. Zero makeup reminds me of hippie chicks and back to nature girls. That's fine, but to each their own.
Sure guys will fuck all the fakest bitches in the world, but most can't stand their personalities, so once they get bored move on to the next shallow slut bitch.. but men will always chase these whores, because men are visual beings... they like fancy things.. its when they learn these shallow relations don't work emotionally for them they start going for the plainer girls.. I know because dudes my age love to hit me up but its like you gone through 600 hoes.. I don't really want you bruv.. lol
there's an honesty about a woman without makeup. There's an art to knowing how to work your facial features into the best possible look with all the powders and paints needed. I do think it's an unhealthy practice that's ages old to put on makeup. I prefer honesty but also I get that it really can help their level of attraction. As a male not able to apply makeup in any way that would be helpful I can sympathize with that. Had horrible acne growing up, really wanted to cover it all up. So all in all for the question it's just very dependant on the girl and their amount of makeup. Any sort of caking on is absolutely more repulsive to me personally but plenty of guys are fine with that more than others. Some like fake, some don't know the difference till the makeup comes off.
The girls who go out of their way to look fake, get fake boobs, fake eyelashes, etc are the same women who crave attention. And when women crave attention they usually put out more. Men might not admit it, but there’s enough of us who enjoy a woman who wants attention and will do anything to get it. Guys like myself find wholesome women most desireable and the fake looking women to be ehhh I wish they didn’t try so hard.
Well said, brother.
Men don't know what real looks like, they'll see a girl with light makeup and say "she's so naturally pretty, I loves girls without makeup"
Then they'll see a girl with actually no makeup and say "she looks sick, she needs to sleep more" 😂😂😂😂
Likely because girls don't go out without their makeup on, so we really don't have choice. The only time you don't see them with the make up on is when you've stayed overnight and they take it off. In those instances, I usually tell them, you look great without the makeup and they don't have to wear as much when they are around me.
They don't from me, so who knows. It probably is as basic as you think it is.
Men say the same thing about women who say looks don't matter. Attractive men get all the attention and less attractive ones have to prove themselves to get basic respect.
It's all just silly.
Natural beauty is attractive to me & nowadays it’s like it flocking Halloween year round!
As for me I like the real deal & the “fake” look to me is totally scary but to each is own & some people like what they like. I would be afraid to take a “fake” looking girl on a date & I would be afraid to take her to a zoo because the monkeys would throw peanuts at her instead.
I think a lot of men believe in fantasies - They think attractive woman are an alien species and not people who burp and fart and grow old and die. It’s why some men put up with beautiful woman with bad personalities, they do not judge her by the same standard they judge their friend or family or co workers cause they view her as a beauty poster and not as a normal human with normal responsibilities and duties.
Men have two types of attention which they can give. The first being sexual attention, which is worth next to nothing and is dispensed cheaply and the second is relationship attention which is must more expensive. Men who are lower value can give attention willy nilly because that is the only thing they have. However men who are higher value are very careful with whom they commit to.
A "shiny" look will attract attention, and some males are only interested in surface attraction.
But unsure of what kind of fake you mean: makeup? plastic surgery? smiling when you don't mean it?
Cosmetic and surgery, I assume...
@TheIrishWolf Irish, I rarely assume because I've been wrong making an assumption about what someone's language use means. But, if it IS surgery, again, if it's a surface alteration, some men don't care as long as the look is one that is attractive to them: big tits, big ass, stomach tuck. Doesn't matter if it's surgical or natural.
This is the female equivalent of "If women claim they don't want assholes then why do they always date assholes?"
If you want male attention and genuinely think being fake will get you that, GO AHEAD AND TRY IT.
You are wrong.
"men say" ... etc. Some men like the whole "make-up makes me look hot" thing, and are attracted to the "look", not the girl. When the make-up comes off, the attraction goes away. Some men can't tell if a woman has no make-up, a little bit, or a ton of make-up!
They can be unattractive with too much on or more unattractive without it. It goes both ways. It's mad.
If she has too much on already, it's probably a sign..
Every girlfriend I've ever had a serious relationship with wore ZERO makeup.
Nothing beats natural beauty. But he'll yeah I stare at girls with their makeup on point. It's interesting. It's like a Halloween costume. It's also a sign they are more likely to be easy for a casual lay.
If you just want me to stare or make a sexual pass at you wear tons of makeup. It will definitely work for that. That's about it though.
That attention usually comes from "boys" real "men" do indeed find the fakeness repulsive.
When I was a teenager I too would drool over most women every the "oil paintings"
I assume you're referring to Instagram models and other sluts on the internet or in real life who are flaunting their bodies and sexuality looking for male attention? Trust me, they don't get attention because they look fake... they get it because they're dressing and acting in ways to intentionally draw men's attention. If men are just looking at boobs and asses, or looking for hookups, the fakeness doesn't matter.
But the fake look is a big turnoff to men looking for real women.
Because they don't actually know what natural looks like. Men be posting photos of a girl with full makeup like "😻 love a natural beauty"
True that!
Because it's not thier look. It's thier actions. Why do women fall for douchebags so easily? It might be thier look but it's probably mostly thier actions. These "fake" women put more effort in to making these men feel wanted, whether you want to believe it or not (even if it's all an act). Women are MUCH BETTER at manipulation than men. Because deception is kind of in thier DNA.
Some people are just attractive. They can be natural or unnatural and look good all the same.
There are many unnatural girls who get a lot of attention, but if they were natural they would surely get the same or even more.
Man are not a hive mind, some may like it
and over alll I think fake pook means someone that over do it, most guys I belive dont notice when its done right
Because there are fake girls, and then there are fake girls with fake personalities.
When men talk about "look" they don't just mean face.
We think that is your real face until we see you in the morning. It is a bit like push up bra's
There are a lot of fake guys there too, however, almost all women wear makeup and want naturally good-looking guys. A girl who's 6 but looks 8 with makeup, only wants natural 8 guys or higher. Now those naturally perfect guys get pissed when they get fake women.
fake in what sense exactly?
Like, a couple of lbs of make up on the face, fake boobs, hair extensions, fake lashes, and more?
1. Because they're women.
2. Men are horny (have some principles, lads. 😂).
4. Most women do it.
5. And because people have lesser standards.
They get more attention because hey are easy , they aren’t respected and valued all they are is a piece of ass
You're not scarlett Johansson. Men just want women to look like woman and not like an oil painting.
Probably just cause the possibility they didn't got work done is not fake also it kinda hard for us guys know what is fake and not fake without touching. Also I have seen pretty good plastic surgery that looks natural.
Here is the first thing you have to disprove in order for your post to have validity:
There's a difference between the women who get attention for short term play and the women who men go to for seeking to find out if they are are someone they could be with long term
Guys love the "fake look". We just don't wanna be duped by a 4 pretending she's an 8. We'd much rather have a 7 who can up herself to an 8 or 9.
Sex appeal. They get attention because they are sexy. In a legitimate relationship, the "fake" look is just accepted as something she feels she needs to do. In my opinion, at least.
Like @Pinay_ako said. Some women can do the fake look well until it's gone. Then the guy sees the real her. What kind of fake look do you mean?
It does enhance womennif its done right, but I think its mostly about when it's excessive. And excessive is bad on its own, never mind without it. Its a sign she might not like her own face with that much anyway.
@TheIrishWolf lol. True. Makes me wonder what they really look like without it all and why they wear so much.
They come off as easy. They get the wrong kind of attention.
Good one. I've never though if it like that.
Thanks
A lot of men like watching car accidents, but that doesn't mean they want to be in one...
Maybe because they see that they put in "effort" not to be quite honest 9 times out of 10, they look awful after it's all taken off. 🤷🏻♀️💯
Would you date a guy that wore make-up?
I bet no, so why should guys date women that wear make-up
Probably because they're whores. And thirsty dudes go to whores when they want to fill a certain need.
Because most guys i know will do anything attractive or not, but maybe them and fake ones communicate on the same frequency
Well, for me if I’d date a woman, I want her to look like herself. I know I’d want a woman that’s pretty but looks only go so far. Looks however still matter regardless.
Why do women find powerful and rich men attractive although they say they don’t care about power and money (most of the time)? Same reason. Dodge judgements!
They get attention from the guys that want to use them for casual sex.
there's a lot of simps in the world. sadly.
Because they are women. Men like all women. They just have different uses for them.
@DermalPunch You also have to remember men rarely are honest w/ women because they don't want to deal w/ the backlash so they typically just tell women what they want to hear.
@Vegasrunner oh yes this. I was super sensitive about this when I was younger. Younger women are so concerned with other women instead of being concerned with themselves. That's the secret.
@DermalPunch Lol, I'll let you in on a secret, it's not a secret. Most men know this, only a few have the courage to act on it though.
@Vegasrunner men have the courage to act in sleeping with every woman? That's not courage.
@DermalPunch I don't know where you got that from I never said anything like that. What I said is most men realize women are insecure and are concerned about what others think, however most men don't have the courage to tell women this or use it to their advantage because they're scared of how women will behave toward them.
@Vegasrunner ohhh. I was confused. Yes it's true!!! But confidence comes with kindness.
@DermalPunch Confidence comes from practice and repetition. Problem is average is reluctant to put himself out there so he doesn't get much experience and when he does get a women he is reluctant to share the truth w/ her because he is afraid to loss her.
They say something and do other thing. Don't take what they say serious. You can't reason with neanderthals
Then i can ask you the same thing about why you're like then bad guys then complain about bad guys if you're not neanderthals
Plenty of men don't pay them any attention. Dumping a bucket of paint on an entire gender is pointless.
Most of the time men like cheap and easy. Pump and dump. Once they grow up - they tend to want a " good " woman. Women really can't win for losing.
they want those girls for sex (because they're easy and if they need something quick, well...), not for relationships... duh.
They want her to be skilled at makeup or somebody with genetic lottery. Lmao x
There's natural makeup look..
I think they want a girl that looks good without makeup also
They get attention which is presumably what they want.. but the attention does not last.
When it comes to long term relationships, perhaps they choose something different.
Because we aren't trying to make a lifelong connection to them.
Fake women attract fake men. The majority of civilization is fake people imulating they're fake identity.
Truth.
If people say fast foods are junk foods and aren't real food and unhealthy, why is it so delicious?
What? That doesn't make any sense.
Then so would your question be if you just don't analyze.
I mean it wouldn't make sense if you have no idea on how analogy works
What is the fake look? Makeup? ALL girls look better with makeup.
Men see them as insecure cuz of they fake shit and men assume that insecure means that they easy. Dont hate me im just da messenger
Look who's really complimenting those girls, especially on social medias. It's girls. Fake compliments, but still.
The attention has more to do with their provocative behavior and the perception that they are "easy".
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