I don't know.
Because they do and they don't know what they want.
They just want to sleep with them.
I've never noticed they do.
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Because guys have no idea how makeup is used. When they say "I don't want a woman who wears a lot of makeup," what they mean is, "I want a woman who uses makeup efficiently to enhance her natural features, rather than trying to cover up her existing features or create entirely fake ones."
Another thing is... guys are not picky. As evidenced by the hordes of thirsty online butt-hunters. Men find 80% of women attractive and desirable. Few actually have any meaningful standards. Even though they will say they do. Some do. But not a lot.
End of the day, no one really understands what they want. Women are the same way. They will say they want specific traits in a man, yet go for men who don't even come close to those traits. The proverbial "nice guy" vs "bad boy". If women want a nice guy, why do they so often go for the bad boys?
Because when people say something, they are thinking with their frontal lobe--the rational part. But that part isn't responsible for *feelings* of romantic or sexual attraction.
So, this can be boiled down to: thoughts vs feelings. People may think many things would be preferable to them--but they will *feel* differently than they think. It's just the human condition.
Instinct trumps reason.
@Chaz269 Which claim in particular? For one, Doctor Steven Novella, a neuroscientist, is the source for instinct trumping reason. As he states, the frontal lobe's main purpose is to rationalize baser instincts from the amygdala.
Otherwise, I don't think I really need sources for any of the others. Simple logic can attest. But I might endeavor to find a few sources, if you say what you specifically would like evidence for.
Guys generally not being picky should be obvious, but is supported by evolutionary biology and reproductive strategies.
Yeah, actually, didn't think you were brave enough to respond. Let's begin:
"Guys have no idea how makeup is used." Sources, please. And don't waste our time with sources that don't adhere to the international standards of empirical data.
"Guys are not picky... Men find 80% of women attractive and desirable." Same standards as above. Be particular, I can directly refute that claim with multiple studies that meet or exceed the standards I declared. Good luck!
"... when people say something, they are thinking with their frontal lobe..." (this area actually includes several common sensory areas including behavior & personality, learning & voluntary movement, but none associated with risk vs reward reasoning).
"Instinct trumps reason."
Give it your best shot, chatterbox, or simply admit to being a lying BS artist. I'll not utter one more single word.
For the record, cop-out punk, have another close look at my original response. I clear request multiple sources to your multiple claims.
I know that you're another ignorant BSer, and you can't possibly justify more than one claim with evidence that meets international empirical standards. BUT, I've been wrong before, and I'm verily looking forward to your intellectual response!
@Chaz269 Well, you know what they say about assuming. You make an ass out of u and me.
You are needlessly aggressive and emotional. Not a great way to encourage me to continue this conversation, so consider it dropped.
You're not taking into account anything but the makeup. For instance, girls who seriously go for the bimbo/plastic look often also get boob jobs as well as flirt HARD with guys or wear clothing that lets guys have all the eyefuls they'd like.
You don't have to be super gorgeous and elegant to get tons of male attention... But if you want to really make a confident guy suddenly lose his ability to speak, feel his heart pounding in his ears, and feel nervous for the first time in years, you're not pulling that off with the fake look. I personally don't even get all that sexually attracted to the pics you're throwing up (and I happen to like a girl who knows what she's doing with makeup and loves to wear it), but I'm also not a 22 year old anymore with my libido dragging my eyes towards anything without a Y chromosome that gives off the slightest signal she might not mind having sex too much. Besides, I still contend that a woman that looks like Beyonce with a normal makeup job who dressed and acted like the women in your pictures would get even MORE attention from men than these girls could, because the fake look isn't what's really attracting the men here.
The fake look is unattractive to everyone but attractive in some ways. I think people's minds are a bit foggy and undecicive on this one. It's like I'd look at a dolled up girl and admire her as an art piece. Her efforts in applying makeup, hairstyle, choice of clothing and background might get her a lot of attention. This doesn't mean you require this to be applied to your life, but then again if you go on fb, you'll see women who look dirty and smelly, and far from hot have a bunch of men telling them how hot they are, and to inbox them. Men are thirsty and think everyone is hot.
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If this link works, check it out, this group has a lot of hot messes being cheered on by men, it's not that serious babygirl.
Holy crap the whole video is showing and not just a link, interesting. But anyway someone invited me to the group after pretending to be a respectful gentlemen and begging to be my fb friend he kept trying to get me to do things like this in the group and going around complimenting everyone on how sexy and hot they are.
No matter how many times I remove myself, he adds me to another one. I keep reporting all their shit because no, it's not a porn site.
Unless the male is just as high maintenance and plastic looking, I have never known if guys who are attracted to females who literally look like Barbie. Honestly, I feel Barbie dolls have taken a more natural look than the girl in your example. *shivers*
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Many guys online have no standards at all. Check this out - on bodybuilding. com a guy on a forum photoshopped a fat girl's picture with a pig nose and hair all over her chest and made a profile on POF. Most guys would of course find her to be repulsive, but she still got plenty of messages.
The pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/BMNSM9S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UBPRWej.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/q9kNNCV.jpg
Her inbox after a few hours:
http://i.imgur.com/wFPlquT.jpg
A few messages:
http://i.imgur.com/g4WtMJF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t38uQCS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wO8lfUD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vReYx73.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7BWEIwq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YPFPE8r.jpg
The reason women use cosmetics is to attract partners by making their eyes look bigger, lips look fuller, hair look healthier or whatever. It turns out cosmetics work as intended. Personally I don't find make-up attractive if I can tell its make-up. It's points off if I can see the texture of your foundation or your lip-stick is the color of fresh chewed gum, but paradoxically its also making the woman's eyes look bigger or lips look fuller or whatever, so it's probably points back on in my subconscious mind. I think at a certain point more make-up gets diminishing returns or starts to cost a woman, but if a man says that cosmetics don't work, he's just not self aware. However, the confidence of a woman who doesn't use make up and maybe even doesn't shave everything she's "supposed to" is attractive too. I have a friend who has a "mannish" hair-cut, doesn't wear make-up, is decked out in tats and doesn't shave anywhere. I know from being around her, she gets a lot of attention from men. She jokes that her aesthetic "weeds out the weak".
However, when a woman is dolled up like that, it signals to guys one of two things: She is a shitty make-up artist or she has low self-esteem. That's probably not the case all the time, but fuck-boys play a numbers game, they're not terribly worried about individuals.
ALSO, this might be an assumption, but I think women who have the super fake look are much more likely to post sexually provocative and submissive pictures than au naturale women. So if you're using Instagram as your only metric, remember that desperate guys who are just looking to see BEWBS or trying to hit on some half-real person from the internet will flock to their pages.
None of the above. They don't get extra attention from men for looking fake. They get extra attention from women. The Kardashians aren't popular with men, but they are with women. The fake looking women who get men would have gotten men even if they weren't fake looking. If the woman is ugly, well, if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.
There's also the fact that you're only looking at celebrities and models, who live glamourous lives, and so they will always have someone kissing their asses just to get a foot in the door of the industry. Fake looking women without power aren't getting extra guys.
The answer if E: "rubber necking"
"Rubber necking" is the term used to describe traffic jams caused by drivers who slow down to look at the crash on the side of the road. Human curiosity just causes people to love to look at disasters... like fake looking women.
I'll tell you why:
There are say 10% of men who actually really like the fake look or are just pathetic. Now, with the advent of the internet these men can be followers of fake girls from any country. Let's say every tenth woman is fake.
I. e: 10% of US men giving attention to Canadian women would be 16 million people giving attention to over 1.8 million women.
+ 10% of Canadian men would be an additional 1.8 million attention givers.
Or: 10 attention givers per one fake women in an entire country.
Very simply fake looks brings fake attention. Excessive attention is fake and hype while the rare quality attention is the serious stuff. If one wants excessive fake and flighty attention, live the false plastic fake look. If one wants quality serious wholesome attention, then look and act wholesome and not fake.
I really can't say. All I know is in my experience I haven't had issues with guys not liking me because I dye my hair pink and wear makeup. Just the opposite. I got compliments all the time. But it may be just a sexual attractive thing. They may look at me as a woman that would be sexy to f'ck but not a woman they would bring home to mom. Who knows? I guess I'm lucky I found a man that loves the pink hair and me getting dolled up for him.
Thanks.😎
3.5 billion men and boys on the planet. You can acknowledge 1.7 billion paying attention to those clowns and you're still not seeing the majority. You know why the MeToo movement took off? Because there's an abundance of male attention to go around, and not everyone wants it.
Everyone has different interests, preferences and standards.
I'd say that to be really superficial & to put great value in appearance is a sign of an unhealthy person.
It might seem like many/most men give those women lots of attention, but often the loud, alpha types just make themselves known & seen, so they seem like "most guys."
Women without all the fake stuff get attention too. The women who have the fake stuff are getting more attention but the attention they get is men laughing at all the money they waste thinking they need the crap. . It makes you look cheap. So some men will think you will be easy to get in bed
Because your not understanding what is meant by like. A man can not like a woman and still find her sexually attractive, they are not mutually exclusive. Women who look fake also look like they are more sexually open i. e. they are more likely to put out which appeals to the sexual aspect of men. That doesn't mean they want to date the girl, in fact many guys don't want that type of girl to date and would prefer a more traditional girl (who he will feel is more likely to be loyal, caring, nurturing etc.). Male sexuality is not like female sexuality and that's what is confusing you, your looking at it as if men function like women.
Shallow people will always go after other shallow people. None of the guys I associate with are attracted to girls like that. It just depends on the guy... and the guys who scroll through social media all day looking for random girls to hit on are the ones who like that kinda stuff and give girls like that attention.
Because they're not the same guys lol. Population is massive. You could hear 100,000 guys says they prefer natural looking girls and they 100% mean it. You would still see "fake looking" girls in your view who get a lot of guys. Because 100,000 is a drop in the bucket.
Guys like different things, that's the simple answer. The absolute majority of guys don't like that look in the picture though. The reason the comments on her pictures are so positive is because the people following her are the people that like the heavy make up look.
Because a lot of them associate that look with hypersexuality, and think that it would be easier for them to seduce these women. There is no correlation necessarily, but you have to understand that a man can be attracted to a woman for a multitude of reasons. It could be for sex only, or for a serious relationship/marriage.
Some men may be able to easily separate lust and sexual attraction from love and genuinely romantic attraction. Some women may do so, but I think the proportion of men who do is higher.
@PrincessPie When guys say they prefer the natural look they mean they want her to look like a model but without makeup, which only 4-5% of women can pull off
And the guys commenting on Instagram are just horny tweens (like myself) who are temporarily blinded by lust so they aren't the majority of the male population and their opinion must not be taken seriously
There are many reasons, some can’t tell the difference between natural and fake beauty, others are only admiring from afar, others are just looking for a “one night stand” and very rarely there are those who legitimately want a relationship.
However, the main reason is that men are very visual when it comes to attraction, so any imagery regarding attractive women will get the attention of men regardless if the beauty is fake or natural. All over the Internet there are videos and pictures that show attractive women doing random things. The titles read “Hot woman eating chocolate”, “Hot woman doing Jiu Jitsu”, “Hot woman doing yoga”, “Hot woman farting” which are accompanied by thirsty comments.
That girl in that picture is horribly unattractive and looks like someone used cake icing on her face and not makeup. But I’d say they just want to sleep with them; and men aren’t very good at telling what makeup a woman is wearing.
I can definitely tell she's got the whole cosmetics section at Walmart on her face. It is not cute at all.
@ericclayton Agreed. I was a bit.. shocked to see that pic.
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guys only say that because they're hoping some chick will hear them say it and think "Oh, he loves me for who I am without make-up". In reality, none of us believes this except for the virgin guys who have never seen a beautiful woman without makeup. It's only a rare woman that looks great without any makeup on and she's probably a model of some kind.
I don't think it has anything to do with makeup. I just think guys want someone attractive which we all do guys and girls. If a girl is naturally pretty she will get attention if a girl is unattractive but puts makeup on to be pretty and she looks better with makeup she will get attention. I don't think people should bash unattractive for trying to look there best tho because what do you expect them to do when other people don't really like them. It's natural to want to feel accepted.
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