Anonymous(30-35)+1 yWhat's it they say? Brainy is the new sexy? Beauty's in the eye of the beholder? Looks can be decieving?
Think about what's attractive: it varies from person to person. Perhaps in your experience the only thing that makes someone seem attractive is their appearance, but there's more to it than that for many. beside the physical there's also the emotional, mental and spiritual. Each can be rich or poor. Personally if it was a choice between having high eq, iq, good personality, etc or having someone who fitted my ideal of physical perfection I think I'd go for the former. If they're physically attractive as well all the better, but I'd rather like whats on the inside than whats on the outside: what if they look good but are otherwise horrible? Would it really be worth suffering? Perhaps some would, but I don't think I would.
Certainly there are ideals, often based on cultural expectations and norms.
You could look at this from an evolutionary point of view. To put it bluntly you want to know your genes are being passed on along with other genes you approve of. But its still more than just looks. Looks can only take you so far in life, and ideals representotherfactors). Look at Maslows hierarchy of needs: posessing resources to survive and security are far more basic than aesthetics. Resources and security can be achieced a few ways: in some cases physically, in others intellectually, and when it comes to choosing a partner (essentially the biological purose of attraction) emotional safety and the ability to share feelings etc are all imortant (love and belonging follow safety needs and is also important in raising children).
I would however like to oint out definitions of whats attractive can change: when you like someone you might actually start looking for other things about them you like, or redefine your expectations based on experience rather that the stories people tell themselves about00 Reply
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*this only applies to me or like minded individuals, I DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE FEMALE GENDER
Well, you have to be attracted to the person, but NO. I disagree, looks are NOT the only thing that matters!
If you are good looking, yea, it helps. But you seriously cannot expect to develop a deep relationship with someone who has no substance. Male or female. You're not just gonna stare at your date, no matter how hot they are. You will want someone who's still interesting, has a good personality, sense of humor, at least some intelligence, ambition and goals in life. Why the fuck would anyone just want a partner to just look at? Male or female, we want someone who we can connect to also, and I don't mean sex by "connect".
Now, if all YOU do in YOUR relationships is stare or just have sex, that may be different. But I have never been in a relationship like that, so I cannot give any insight to what that'd be like. This is the only relationship dynamic where I can imagine that looks would be the only thing that matters. Thankfully, I have not experienced this nor do I plan to.
Yes, physical attraction is important, not just to women by the way, men care about looks too. I don't know why only women get shit for wanting to be with a person they are attracted to, emotionally and physically. But physical attractions IS NOT the only thing that's important. Not to me at least.
Heaven forbid that the hot chick you desperately are attracted to, want to be with someone she's also attracted to, even if that isn't you! -_-
If you're still gonna troll and claim that only your opinion is valid, fine. Don't agree. But just cuz looks are the only thing that matters to you, doesn't mean it applies to everyone.214 Reply
Asker+1 y"If you are good looking, yea, it helps. But you seriously cannot expect to develop a deep relationship with someone"
The point is that they had a chance in the first place to attempt to develop a "deep" relationship if their good looking. If your not, you would never have this chance. So based on this premise, the rest of your statements are invalid. Look up "slippery slope fallacy".- +1 y
I said "yea it helps" not "yea for sure"
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This guy is silly to think that most women only care for looks.
Asker+1 y@latinodude so you really think a good looking chick would fuck a fat bald guy?
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Why is it only about sex? Would a hot guy fuck a fat bald woman?
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Most likely they won't man but most women don't ONLY care for looks.
Asker+1 ynever. Looks are what matter.
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Ok, so why only bring women as if men wouldn't?
Asker+1 yDid you not read the question? I said when will women admit it. I know guys care only about looks. We just waiting for women to admit it too instead of just BS-ing like yourself.
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Looks matter, but they aren't the ONLY thing.
Just because women and men, want a partner they'd be attracted to, doesn't mean that this attractive person can be stupid, mean, rude, no sense of humor, etc. Like I said, you need more than looks to develop a deep relationship with someone.
As I also said before, the only relationship that maybe looks would be the only thing that matters is for staring at your partner or for sex. Now, again, I have never been in such a situation, so I don't know for sure.
Other relationships, especially long term, require more substance to their partners and other qualities would matter.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yYes, looks play a part in everything from relationships, work, and success in general. Looks are a very important variable, but over time it's personality and character that starts to mean more. I understand your plight though and do feel like I have to look good so my husband will give me attention, and I have to look good everyday at work so I get that raise or promotion. I get way more when I look good than when I don't, and it is often insulting. One way to help the problem is to STOP teaching girls at an early age that looks come 1st. Also, if parents treated boys and girls the same; as in, everyone looks presentable, works, cleans, responsible, and accountable then it would lessen that gap. Unfortunately, there are many egotistical males and religions that tell people; women need men because we are weak and need guidance. I'm religious but don't agree with that shit. Furthermore, if we call out woman who use their looks to get through life it might start a movement to create more independent women. As women, we also can't put up with our guys acting like pigs and treat women like meat. If we want to change something, let's look at our behavior and what we are putting up with.
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+1 yGood Lord. This is an absolute mess. The comments are a war zone and this question is so accusatory and clearly narrow minded. Each and every person is different so not ALL women can or have a need to admit to this. It is a stereotype created from the hypersaturation of this lustful culture and media. Looks fade with time and age so they CANNOT be a deciding factor. Anyone who thinks this is young, dumb or caught in the lies of the media. Another thing, love isn't controlled, its not specific. Its irregular and so peculiar its an enigma. You fall in love if certain conditions are met at the best of times or it happens if no conditions are met and at the worst of times. The women who you are targeting this statement at are part of the shallow demographic and its much smaller than you think. There are so many people out there. Stop generalizing and open your eyes. Its the same thing with the political bullshit. Not all Muslims are terrorists, not all black people like fried chicken, not all white people like organic produce. Each and every single person is a unique individual with a personality that manifests itself based on their development. If even one thing were changed, they would be completely different. Love and lust are two very different things. You choose to love somebody. If you choose based on looks, its called lust and thats a manifestation of our sexual desires hardwired into us so that we reproduce. Just open your eyes up a bit... I'm sorry if you were hurt. I've been hurt too, many times, but I choose to move forward. What choice will you make?
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+1 yCome the flip off it with the sweeping generalisation dude! I have a friend who has a talent for making herself look great, and when we go out she gets all these good looking guys.. thinking they're flirting with her when really they're just creeping on her and they're pathetic, anyway she won't give them anything because they're fooking idiots. She gives them what they've earnt - rejection. I get a kick out of it though because her guy friends that she hangs out with, me and the others, well we're generally if the more.. nerdy or.. something like that, appearance. And these guys look jealous and confused. They're so feeble minded that they can't comprehend why a hot girl would be hanging out with guys like us. Good fun.
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Asker+1 yBut you can't based everything based on that one girl you hangout with right?
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Right but you're making a sweeping generalisation about all females, which by default is idiotic. Some girls say there are no good men, or that all men are animals (technically true, but these girls saying that appear to be saying it in the context that they themselves are not animals which then separates them from the men), or that all men are only after one thing. They are making a sweeping generalisation about all males, which too by default is idiotic.
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+1 ywell attraction does matter but it isn't everything. an average guy can get a chance if he has other good qualities you like.. but if a guy isn't cute and you don't have a connection with him then yeah nothiings gonna happen. maybe stop chasing pretty girls and go after fellow uglies
00 ReplyGirls won't admit this, but girls pick guys based on looks. I mean, they should. It's simple to understand why they prefer guys with good genes, so they have better offspring—girls rate guys based on what guys can't easily change. E. g., height and face structure. (Good height and a good looking face means good genes) This is important to a woman; hence, looks matter far more to a woman than men.
So most guys who don't meet these high standards of women should go their own way. I'm a guy with an average face, 5'10ft, and an athletic physique. I don't get girls. A guy with a dad bod with a good-looking face gets girls more than me. This is simple biology. I also should make it very clear that I don't blame women for this. It's just their nature. I have accepted it and moved on.
In the modern age, women can earn their own living and take care of themselves. They no longer need a guy to take care of them. Therefore women don't care if a guy is successful or not.
You can be a successful guy and still not get any girls because your face is below average and your height. Average or below-average-looking guys, we need to understand this and go our own way.
I, for one, don't have the time to be saddened by this reality, and I'm just going to focus on myself and my success in life. I thought that getting a good physique and becoming a better man would increase my chances (I was naive, I know), but now that I realize this, I advise men like me to go their own path.
Women have countless good-looking men for them to date, and us going our own way wouldn't concern them. They can have fun and raise families with good-looking dumb guys out there.
I'm just going to be successful in life; I would also be well off than most cause I won't be taking care of a wife or supporting a family. I would then donate most of my wealth to charities and people in need, making me feel good about myself and fill the void.
"There's only so much fortune a man really needs and the rest is for showing off"
If you go on your own path and become successful in life, you could attract gold diggers. Still, personally, for me, I don't like cheap women, so I would rather die alone than do that, but again it's your choice.
Ugly, below average, or average looking men should go their own path, chase success, change the world for the better, and leave behind a legacy when they leave this earth.
Peace.01 ReplyI'm an ugly dick. But I'm confident and I can hold my chest high when I walk and talk. Looks only matter if you're trying to find a girl in a bar or something like that. I met a girl while rock climbing and since we both shared a love of the outdoors we dated for quite a while. Stop looking in places where looks are all that matter. Start living your life. Get yourself where you want to be and then look to your left and right and see who else is where you are as well. That's where looks don't matter.
11 ReplyWell, he's got us ladies. He found out our secret; I mean, we might as well admit it now, rather than truly care about people's personalities and other unimportant stuff. I mean, who cares if your a colossal jerk as long as you have abs?
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Asker+1 ycolossal jerk with abs will get you attention, a fat considerate guy never will lol.
Asker+1 yand thats all he needs to make his move. Fat bald guy will never get a glare, thus will ever exist. Proving my logic. Would you fuck a fat bald guy? No so quit lying to yourself lol.
Asker+1 ymakes his move to chat a girl up. End of the day, jerk ab guy will always have more women that fat bald guy period. Life validates this.
+1 yYou need to work on your satire skills. I'd say 4/10.
media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fd13UuTH1qm9dli.jpg120 ReplySo I met a girl online and she knew what I looked like and all but she didn't like me right away, she actually started liking me 3 months of us just texting and skyping with barely any pics. So she liked my personality way more than my looks and she also liked my personality initially than looks. Looks were actually 2nd in this case. Explain?
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Asker+1 ywell you said did'nt like you right away. She probably found you attractive, but she didn't know who YOU were yet, so she needed to get to know you. I think thats what your getting at. But she did find you attractive, so you met her baseline standard, its just that now she just needed to know you more.
There has to be some type of physical attraction before there can be a "mental attraction" we don't need a huge physical attraction to date someone. Even if you don't find them attractive right away you will develop a physical attraction if they meet your "standards" so no looks aren't everything and once you get over your insecurities you will see that. And guys are the same way don't try to say it's all females. Everyone is the same.
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Asker+1 yTalking in circles.
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So when you first meet someone there will be an attattraction of just being friends. Rather it's male or female. So I could meet you and feel like at that moment that we are better off friends cause we just don't click right away. But once I get to know you, I develop more of bf/gf attraction.
The next attraction is a physical attraction right away. So I see you Damn, he or she is hot. And then you develop more of an attraction to their personality. Or it could be the opposite. They maybe "Damn" but their personality is shit.
So what I am saying is that their has to be some type of attraction before they wanna date someone (mental/physical). As we get older we learn, or should learn that we aren't gonna date a douche bag. Nor do we wanna date someone who is insecure. Just like males. This applies for everyone. Maybe you're only looking for all the wrong things and in all the wrong places.
Asker+1 yWell, if your not attractive, how would you even be friends in the first place?
+1 yYou have to be good looking, but girls don't care about looks on the same level as men do.
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Asker+1 ythey def do.
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Not even close. AN average guy can talk his way into pussy if he's talented enough
Asker+1 yNah.
Asker+1 y@Byakko77 tell me this "game" you speak of. Go in to details. What is your opening dialogue? I wanna hear your wack-ass approach. Go ahead.
I am fat short and ugly so what you are saying makes a lot of sense. In the back of my mind I know that looks aren't everything to girls but it just so happens I am below the line in physical attractiveness which contributes to my low self confidence and self esteem.
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Asker+1 yexactly man.
Asker+1 yworkout though, it helps. get toned.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yPhysical attraction is not the only thing that matters for either gender. I will say that looks matter more to women, than it does to men for initial attraction. Beyond that initial attraction it is actually easier for a man to impress a woman, than it is for a woman to impress a man.
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Asker+1 yYour talking in circles. You saying its the only thing that matters, then its not. Which one is it?
Opinion Owner+1 yI am talking about initial attraction, and then getting to know a person after that. After you get to know someone your attraction to that person starts to change. For a woman her attraction can change greatly the more she gets to know the guy. For a man, there isn't much room for the woman to change his attraction for her.
Asker+1 yYea i get it, your talking about the "getting to know" phase. If your not attractive, you never even get the chance to enter that phase because they would never even look your way.
Opinion Owner+1 yIt is harder to get to the getting to know phase, but it is possible.
+1 yI asked something similar to what you asked before you asked it but I disagree that most women ONLY care for looks. Most want other things too. Nearly all males and females care about looks to a certain extent, most women care about personality AS WELL though. Looks will be a factor nearly all the time though cause like I said nearly all people care about looks to a certain extent.
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Asker+1 yThat "extent" is extremely high though and trumps all including personality.
+1 yNot true. I mean yeah, obviously looks matter a good bit. When I first see a guy, I'm not looking at his personality. Physical attraction comes first, but I wouldn't date a hot guy with a shitty personality just because he was hot.
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Asker+1 y"Physical attraction comes first", proved my point.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yLooks don't matter when you are rich as fuck. Looks matter when you are well off, looks matter when you are poor... If you don't look good an you are poor, you have to rethink things. Sorry. Even Jesus was a handsome man.
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Asker+1 yexactly, thats what i be trying to tell these people. If you don't look good, just kill yourself.
Opinion Owner+1 yNot sure why you would kill yourself, you could just go start an orphanage or help build homes for humanity... Maybe become a saint? That's a bit more eternal and last longer than beauty.
Asker+1 yNah i was talking about other people.
Opinion Owner+1 yExactly, they don't have to kill themselves, they can be a saint instead. It last longer.
Asker+1 yIdk, i just think people who don't workout shouldn't live. I hate lazy people.
Opinion Owner+1 yI don't work out, ever XD There is no point in spending my life in the gym.
Asker+1 ythen you probably don't look good. If your not in the gym then i can't even imagine what u look like.
Opinion Owner+1 yYes I am 117 pounds of ugliness lol There are far better ways to live life. Being stuck on a treadmill and running in place, or walking 26 miles to another country. Playing with kids and lifting them to touch the sky or power lifting. I'd much rather continue to my life than be in the gym with this lol dietsinreview.s3.amazonaws.com/.../man-gym.jpg
Asker+1 yplaying with kids is boring. But yea its always the people who DONT workout who hate on excercising. Like people like you try so hard to justify your lack of fitness, so you come up with all these excuses to make you feel better. You can talk the wheels off with excuses but at the end of the day, your not working out, other people are, so their better than you.
Opinion Owner+1 yI lead an active life style and am in the Navy. I know how to live without a gym lol but okay I've got nothing to prove to you confined by small concepts of your mind and by the gym ^^
Asker+1 ywell, your probably a lazy colleague who lets all the guys do everything.
Opinion Owner+1 yYes of course the guy whom is completely shallow and waste his life away in the gym is also a sexist, no surprise there, kid.
Asker+1 ySo im automatically sexist because i said you probably let the guys do all the things? So in the Navy basic training, when it came to carrying items, you carried them instead? pfff. When you did a drill where you had to carry a person a given distance, you did most of the lifting? pfff.
Opinion Owner+1 yI can carry up to 200lbs for short distance and longer than that if he's 180lbs. I'd have to drag 220lbs, but I can get them from point A. to B. And yeah, you are automatically sexist. Let the men do all the work, what about the other women?
Asker+1 yI want women to do the work. What i was trying to say was that women be lazy so they "Let" the men do the work because their too lazy to do it themselves. We can use everyday examples, like taking out the trash, or changing the lightbulb. Whens the last time u seen a woman change the lightbulb? Or whens the last time u seen a women be FIRST on the scene to lend a helping hand?
+1 yWhat? Hey hey.. It's not that way round.
I allow you to say "large portion" of people take looks into their 1st consideration. But not ALL.
There are still people who place and rank personality in the 1st place.00 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNever. Their desire to be stubbornly politically correct (even if it means lying) prevents them to. If a guy is fugly to women they won't care if he has a great personality. That's why LOOKS MATTER more than personality because without LOOKS a guy still won't get a woman even if he's the embodiment of a guy with a great personality.
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+1 yBecause, looks are not the only thing that matters. As I'm saying this as a guy who's been told he should be in playgirl, on my best days.
Game--charisma, being seductive, personalty--really does matter to women.03 Reply
Asker+1 yBut your good looking, so anything you say don't count. "Looks don't matter" - - -says the guy who looks good.
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I can say that.
Because I've utterly failed at trying to get with girls when I made mistakes. I have GREAT looks.
And more is required, if I actually want to get a date/get to date 2. It takes effort and thinking and game. I can mess up just as easily as anyone else... looks help a ton if you're just hooking up. With a date? Trying to get an attractive partner? You need more than just looks.
Asker+1 yBut at least that opened the door for you. If you don't look good, you would never even be given the opportunity to "mess up" because the girls never gave you a shot in the first place. So it sounds like youve been given plenty of shots, you just blew it somehow. But at least you can keep the shots coming.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 ylooks matter alright.. at first. but eventually, they start piling other things and soon, your pretty face will be the ugliest thing to them.
Money beats looks any time of the day. example, flava flav.10 Reply
+1 yI think looks are a bonus but then again that's just me. I like a guy with a nice personality, and a nice smile, and is homorous and can make me laugh
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+1 yLol no but if your not great looking and have its not fair mindset that won't get you anywhere thats for sure
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ynot going to admit something i dont believe to be true just to validate your bitterness.
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Asker+1 yyou do believe it. You date a fat bald guy? hell no lol. Lying to yourself.
Opinion Owner+1 yi date a guy who is a 3 in looks and is chubby but he isn't bald. if you dont have a personality i dont care how good you look, if you have an amazing personality im instantly attracted and want to be around him all the time. when someones personality is so good to be around it becomes them and they go from average to beautiful in your eyes. its sad that you really think thats all a person could care about
Asker+1 ywtf is an "amazing personality" lol. Explain.
Opinion Owner+1 yfunny, sweet, holds a good conversation on a range of topics, can relate to me, kind, positive outlook, considerate of others, its pretty obvious what makes a personality good or bad
Asker+1 ythere are plenty of guys like that.
Opinion Owner+1 yi know.. im dating one and he's been the best boyfriend I've ever had i couldnt see myself marrying anyone other than him
Asker+1 yThere are plenty of guys like that who aren't chubby, and who are very good looking, so how come your not dating them?
Opinion Owner+1 ybecause out of the people I've met i liked him most, like i said you could be the best looking guy in the world but if your personality isn't great im not going to be interested. i haven't met any good looking guys with good personalities theyre generally players/jerks or rely on their 'hotness' so much there's no substance behind them and 2 minutes of talking to them makes you want to cut yourself
Asker+1 ySo you've never met ONE guy who isn't a chubby looser like your bf who had a personality that you were fond of? Not ONE?
Opinion Owner+1 yim being totally honest when i say no i havent, my boyfriend isn't a loser just because he's chubby either. I've met hot guys with ok at best personalities that were nothing special and boring as hell, I've met jerks & players who instantly repulsed me and I've met hot guys with zero personality or input on most conversations and those were boring and nothing special. I've met plenty of average, ugly and nerdy people with awesome personalities and fun hobbies though we click instantly and they become best friends and sometimes more than friends if theyre interested in me too
Asker+1 yAre you "hot" yourself?
Opinion Owner+1 yI've been told so, im blonde, curvy but slim, green eyes, 5,5, decent face.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIf it were the truth, I would. I really have no reason to lie on a completely anonymous platform, to people I don't even know. It isn't, though, no matter how much you want it to be.
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+1 yTell that to any guy who is convinced that girls chase guys with money.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yWe won't "admit it" because it's not true of all of us all the time. I am sure some women feel that way, but I sure don't.
Stop being so butthurt. And stop calling us all liars.00 Reply
+1 yI go by what comes from the heart. If a guy happens to have both traits it's a bonus.!
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+1 yI know this is not true but looks are still important
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yLooks aren't the only thing that matter just people with good looks show more confidence and that's what people like.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf looks only mattered the divorce rates would be at 99%. Immature question by the way.
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Asker+1 yits close, its at 70%. Only 19% to go.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yheight matters to them more than looks you can be broke ugly and 6'5 you will get heaps of chicks
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Asker+1 yisn't height apart of looks though?
Opinion Owner+1 ylooks to me is face
Asker+1 ylooks is the total physical package.
Opinion Owner+1 yin your opinion others view it different
When women admit that looks is the only thing that matters is the day hell freezes over.
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+1 yLooks fade with age
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Asker+1 ytalking about initially though
+1 yBULLSHIT!!!
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 ystop being bitter
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Asker+1 yjust stating the truth. Stop being delusional.
Opinion Owner+1 yhow about you stop being delusional and realize that that is in no way the full truth
Asker+1 yWould you do a fat bald guy?
Opinion Owner+1 yprobably not. but would you do a hairy fat woman? exactly, stop acting like this is one sided. men do it too. maybe not all men, but some. like women. thats just how the world is and its probably never going to change so just accept it and move on
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