+1 ywell, I'm 30 and quite confident. I still like it if a guy lets me know he's attracted to me, physically and mentally. and maybe being western european (were definitely less sexually inhibited than most other nationalities) I don't mind him letting me know he is sexually attracted to me. so I really think this depends on the nationality of the girl. if she is french, german, belgian, spanish etc. you can be a lot more forward.
i don't like it on the other hand if this is all he can talk about. if at the same time though he is also trying to forge an emotional connection by trying to get to know me, my likes, dislikes, character its allgood.
i like if they show an interest, texting as long as the girl seems interested (u can tell if she isn't, her answers take longer and are shorter and contain nothing that he could possibly reply to) is good. beyond that point, its a big turnoff.
meeting once/twice a week at the start is plenty. maybe I'm oldfashioned but I definitely like a guy to make the first step. I agree, aggressive is not always bad as it shows that he is really determined to get YOU. so if he doesn't give up straight away for me, its not a bad thing. if I tell him, I REALLY don't want u, then its time to give up but if a girl is playful about it she might just be checking if he is serious enough to get invested in. like if she brushes you off rather than tells you off, be persistent.
the reason we don't like guys that get too close too quickly (like the girl saying he sent her roses the next day) is because it seems that they don't want us for us (because how much can that guy know about her after one date) but they are just happy they found ANYBODY they can flirt with. we want to know that we are special. that at that particular moment in time they are courting us they don't want any other girl.
i don't need a guy to play hard to get in order to be attracted to him. I don't do mindgames.
some much more to say, so comment on my answer and I will clarify things for u.30 Reply
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aggressive is hot and sexy. Be specific, and be real. Do it with a smile and a raised eyebrow. YUM. Too much, don't touch- be complimentary, not crass. Ask, and ask again. Leave us alone if we ask you to. If we talk, we are considering you. Go for it.
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Way to swipe away the BA, jesus.
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Haha, you wish chica.. Don't make me call him! ;)
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI once dated a guy that was very forward.
At the end of the first date, he immediately kissed me, catching me off guard. He didn't quite give me enough time to think or to even lean away if I didn't want the kiss. That to me was ridiculous. I don't think any guy should force himself upon a girl. Then he sent me flowers the next day, which at the time I thought was very cute and romantic, but thinking back, it was just a bit too much, too soon.
He was also the touchy feely type...as in some part of him always had to be touching me. I just thought that it was too soon for us to touch, I wasn't at that point yet and when he kept doing it, it just pushed me further away.12 Reply- +1 y
Being comfortable is a big part of relationships, thank you for the contribution.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIf I like the guy, then nothing except if he pays TOO MUCH ATTENTION.
Or tries to get physical too rough or too abrupt.
Bt o do not get scared off , I just feel suffocated.
I would not necessarily take off, if I LIKED him, I would give him a chance.
I can be an absolute dork, when in crush land, so I expect & tolerate it from others.. It would be at the point he was unresponsive to the me telling him it bothered me.
I really like to get to know people before getting involved.. I am not a fan of the friend zone scare.. I have always done better when given time to feel comfortable, cause being attracted to someone kind of throws me off balance.
I'm all about trying again^. So...
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Excellent. What would you say is "too much attention" I vaguely answered that it was basically- "smothering behavior".. But what does that mean to you, specifically? Like when he is constantly attatched to your hip while walking around, or maybe complimenting you on everything, etc?
I would appreciate it if you could clarrify for us guys.
Opinion Owner+1 yHaha, sorry of course. I left out the very thing I capsized.
Ok. When I say to much I really do not mean physically, cause when I LIKE someione it is exciring getting to KNOW them. I am also assuming we are talking about initial part of relationship or acquaintance etc, just that it would be WAY too early for me to call someone clingy. & I do not think about people like that. It would not be clingy unless he had no confidence, otherwise, he is just captivated by me ^^ Seriously I think -
Opinion Owner+1 yIt is the WAY someone is around me, not how much, & if he is composed the it is never a problem.... Of course I would not want him physically all over me, but I would just ask him not to before I went running for the hills.
When I said too much, I mean when a guy decides you're the best thin since sliced bread, & there is no room for the real peiple to come out & play.. I gues it is noce when a guy relies on the fact that I like him, & that he is enough, & he does not worry about him impress-
Opinion Owner+1 yImpressing me, or me impressing him.
He is ok with a dull moment - or what I like to think of a moent of silence^^
He is ok if hings get excited , he can hande not reacting to ever little thing, & can look at the whole picture.
Just that he does not WORRYabout how much pr how good anything is, just lets it happen.
Too much attention is like having too many rules about how to be with someone you do not really know.
I just like to figure things out as they come & you do not know how great -
Opinion Owner+1 yOr how horrble I am based on what happened on friday night, or the way the message that I left sounded...
& am far more likely to be thinking about the twinkle in your eye that I know is meant for me, when we said good night, then the 20 stupid things you accidentally did on the walk home.
(Always)
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Thank you for the detailed info, I appreciate it. That was a long read though, haha.
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+1 yIf we didn't know each other that well and weren't in a relationship, planning out our future together and telling me that he loves me would do it for me. Not on the same page...
I'm a pretty upfront person, so I like when people are upfront with me too. A guy being honest about what he's thinking and feeling doesn't bother me unless I don't feel the same way at all.25 Reply- +1 y
Agreed on the first paragraph CR. But with the second paragraph- are you referring to any particular boundaries about explaining how he feels?
Obviously, if a guy is shy or nervous that is typically thought of as a bad TRAIT... But would it bother you if the guy told you his reasoning behind that after, say... the 3rd date and you asking him about why he's not outgoing? - +1 y
Are you not supposed to say that you're nervous as it's happening? I do lol. I don't think it's a big deal. Saying what's going through my mind makes me feel better because I've explained myself, and it lets him know what's going on with me. I would rather a guy just say that he's nervous in the moment to get it out in the open. That way, I can try to help him through it. There's no reason why he should have to agonize over something like that.
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Awesome, thank you CR for clearing that up. I feel the same way about explaining a situation to feel more comfortable and even receive some assistance. Good insight +1
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Good to know since just the other day, I told a guy I was nervous when we were talking. For a minute there, you had me thinking I screwed up, haha
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Haha, no you're perfectly fine ^_^... Sorry for the scare.
heres a few things I find really forward and aggressive:
txting and calling all the time, or right after we hung out.
like cute little txt msgs are nice, or a phone call before bed.. but that's it.
too quick too fast
i hate it when guys want to jump into a relationship, make sure your both ready.
slow and steady always wins the race.. it also makes it easier to get to know each the best.
giving away the chase
us girls like the whole hard to get/chase thing too.. to a point. After we got you.. we got you. No more hard to get.
clingyyyy
we need space too.. its nice to have a guy that's around.. but its not so nice whens he's ALWAYS around.
i don't know if this answered your question :p
ahah I was kindaa ranting :)
hope it helped23 Reply- +1 y
It helped alot! I want more, do you mind?
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Right on, I appreciate the extra info. Lol when you said "touching you", I imagined the TOOLs that go around trying to touch a girls hair and hold her hand when she doesn't feel the same way. Awesome lol. I think I've done that one-too-many-times.
deffinatly when they border line stalk.
when they text you twice or more before you can answer once.
when you have more than 3 missed calls from them in 10 minutes(if its not about something impportant)
when they CONSTANTLY grabbing your arm or other body parts.
when the first thing they think about is you naked, or having sex with you
when they are TOO CLINGY.
if what the guy is saying is appropriate to the conversation then its okay.11 Reply- +1 y
Perfect.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yhes always asking me out like more than usual, asking to go over to his house, too clingy, asking too many personal questions if he's relatively new in my life...
the right way to do it is to start from friendship, take your time to get to know the girl at least, don't just jump into flirting so much, and then progress from there, when you're both comfortable with each other, you can then flirt some more eyecontact light touching and consider a first date...25 Reply- +1 y
Excellent. But what would you say would be "usual" for the frequency of the guy inviting you out on the town, and not over to his house. On average I'm guessing that once or twice a week should be fine.
Opinion Owner+1 yYes that's fine! once or twice a week is great! but I knew a guy at work once who would ask me every conversation, which was like every hour or so during our shift, so what are you doing tonight, so what are you doing tonight, you wanna come home with me, do you wanna go somewhere friday? and it just creeped me out.
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Haha, whoa.. Guys can really be creeps. All the same, thank you for clarifying that.
- On a side note, if that happened to me, I would probably laugh my ass off and assume it was a joke. Was he serious?
Opinion Owner+1 yI believe so. o.O lol
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O_o *Blink-Blink* - Sounds like a good idea, lol.
Lol thanks again, I'll talk with you soon.
+1 yStalking
calling way to much
making it way to obvious in a short amount of time (like 2 or 3 days
Always trying to make me hug you or him trying to kiss me to soon
Physically touching me to much or at all in some cases21 Reply- +1 y
Great answer, thanks for adding it in =)
+1 yCompliment her but not too much. I'm with a guy right now who compliments me every five seconds and it's starting to feel fake. Keep it real. and don't just compliment on her body compliment on her thoughts and actions. We like know that what were doing is sexy as well as how we look doing it.
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AWESOME closing sentence.
+1 yif he constantly is grabbing me or feeling the need to be around me.
If he calls me baby or something like that too quickly.
If he always asks what I'm doing and where I'm at.
if he hints at sex too early.
if he only notices me physically, and won't stop talking about my physical attributes.
alll of those are so annnoyingggggg.(:21 Reply- +1 y
Awesome answer! Thank you.
+1 yIf he calls me or text me all day.
If he watches and replies on every FB comment.
If he keeps pushing for more when I want it slower.
Lots of things!
Then there is the opposite.
You gain interest and he just doesn't do anything to take it to the next level.
CONFIDENCE IS KEY!24 Reply- +1 y
Good points, I'm guilty of responding 24/7 ;; Would you rather hope that the guy shows he is busy and gives you time to dwell on the laughter he gave you from the last comment?
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I'd rather the guy have a life and just realize I'm part of it and that I'm not "IT".
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Thank you much, that's a good tip.
+1 ywhen all a guy thinks about and talks about is sex and everything he wants to do to you that pushes girls away because guys think it turns a girl on but in reality it really doesnt. Girls will think your easy and girls like a chase and hard to get its a total turn on. :)
well for me at least and a lot of other girls. :) hope I helped.13 Reply- +1 y
Thank you. I like how you added what was a turn-on compared to a turn-off.
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Your welcome :)
and haha thanks
I tend to want to create as much distance between a guy and myself when he doesn't accept my no right away and keeps asking for a date or won't accept the first explanation for refusing him.
I also don't like it when a guy knows nothing about me, but wants a date anyways. I'd say give us a chance to assess your personality before pushing forward.01 Reply- +1 y
Awesome info. But I have a question based on what you said- "... and keeps asking for a date"
- What if he isn't being direct: "Join me for lunch tomarrow" ; "I'd like to take you to the movies" etc... But instead he is just trying to get the ball rolling while being respectful:
(Texting)
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You: "I'm bored"
Him: "Shit, I know right? Let's go do something"
,,,
(Basically, the opportunity flows with the conversation)
Would that be the "pushing" that you're referring to?
When you meet someone you like your just meeting them, getting to know them. So your at a stage where your wondering, what type of person are they), what do they like, just everything about them. Anything beyond this is just plain wrong, (e.g. sex, kissing, stalking)! Basically acting out of character or scaring the girl. There's a way to approach each type of girl, especially if your intentions are to get with her as BF/GF..! If your intentions aren't to get with her then don't approach a girl with it, we hate it! Another way you can be to forward, trying to make the girl want you, you can't make anyone want anything. Coming on to strong, especially if she doesn't like you..lol! Just leave it alone..find another!
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I like the second half of your answer, the first half seemed really bland about the general info towards dating. But obviously if you're attracted to this man and he to you, you should already assume that you're focusing on getting to know one another etc. But still, I appreciate the contribution all the same. This type of information helps us guys better focus on what women are looking to avoid. (E.g. Sexual Innuendos, Strong Feelings at the intial approach, etc)
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"you can't make anyone want anything."
That's not true. If it were, then sales, advertising, & marketing people would be out of a job. - +1 y
Yea if your easy..are you easy..!! If your strong minded know what you want..then who can really change that..!! Persuasion of the mind..a person that gives in..!! Now I can see it from your perception..if a guy is really into you..and the girl finds him incompatible...he'll prove himself and court her till she gives or make her see that he's the one and only..!! but if he's a player and she see's it..what can he really do to make her want him..!!
+1 yHere's just a list of things:
Too Clingy, obviously
If he can't talk about anything but being with me then there's nothing to talk about and it makes me uninterested
Don't be forward tooo fast because girls need to wonder if the guy likes them and too soon makes you seem desperate
Start sending signs that you're interested before and if she responds to those signs in a good way keep sending more before you really go for it
If she's shutting you down just leave it but try to be a friend at least for a little or you just seem like an ass15 Reply- +1 y
"If she's shutting you down just leave it but try to be a friend at least for a little or you just seem like an ass"
- That's why... No one likes being fake. If you weren't signed up to be a friend from the start, don't switch routes.
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But if your a nice enough guy and you're interested in her you should want to be a friend too, or why would she want to be with the ass?
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Dating a best friend is awesome, I've done it, and I can see where you're coming from; however, if the guy is talking to a stranger and he is interested in dating her. Don't just take the first sign of her disinterest and instantly move things into a friendship. If a guy were to do that, he would be friendzoned and it would be much more difficult to get out of, than to just walk away from the situation without trying to be a friend. A friend is someone that helps you regardless (continued)
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- while a relationship is where you help EACHOTHER. There is no focus on trying to make only one party happy. Both parties try to make each other happy at the same time. For instance, if she is having a bad day, the guy would try to help her avoid the situation and join him for a walk in the park, through the breeze. To de-escalate the situation.
Basically, friends = no more attraction in a general sense; while aiming for a relationship = attraction. If you go for friends, you'll be a friend.
Hmmmm , What Makes a guy to forward would be when he has to every single little thing about you . and wants to spent every single minute with you , EVEN IF YOURE NOT TOGETHER . that's preetty forward . OH && if we ask you to stop doing somthing and you disregaurd what we say and continue it, that would come off as sorta forward
20 Replywell for me if I like him I like when he makes all the moves but girls usually like it when guys are gentle so when you make a move she feels safe and usually if your going to far she'll tell you but if you were gentle it won't scare her away.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ylol I asked the girl version of this question...I did a double-take on this one!
For me, a guy would cross the line into being too aggressive if he's pushy toward the girl, when the girl's obviously not interested. As in...the girl expresses her disinterest and he continues to pursue. A bit of an extreme case, I guess, but definitely a turn-off nonetheless.
But like blackbird said, if the attraction is mutual, though, aggress away!05 Reply- +1 y
Thank you, I responded to your question. Quite a bit of inspiration your question started ;)
- What would constitute "disinterest" in your opinion? What do you typically do when you feel like you would like to move on from this potential suitor.
The obvious ones I could guess at are as follows:
- Short answers that seem cold/distant
- Verbally asking to leave the situation
- Genuine disinterest in what they are saying
- Flirting with friends or otherwise entertaining yourself.
etc
Opinion Owner+1 yHaha no prob. Hmm good question...I tend to be too nice, so I'm probably more subtle at first if I'm not interested in a guy. To show disinterest, on my part there's definitely a lack of eye-contact (as, on the opposite side of things, if I'm attracted to a guy, I make a lot of eye contact).
If I'm with friends and a guy I'm not interested in is continuing to hang around, I focus on my friends or just excuse myself from the situation (if he's making the situation uncomfortable).- +1 y
Awesome, thank you for the input. I would love to hear more if you have anything else you'd like to contribute.
Opinion Owner+1 yWelcome! It's a tough question- one of those things you don't really think about until it actually happens!
Like I said, though, in general, to show disinterest (whether or not I mean to) I try to avoid the guy: through eye contact, physical avoidance, anxious to leave the conversation, running away (lol), etc.- +1 y
Hahaha, perfect! Thank you for the answer and the smile.
Well, for me it is when a guy is a little to aggressive when we are on a date or when a man is to much of a bully trying to get what he wants and I don't just mean when it comes to sex but when he is trying to show off and making people uncomfortable. I also don't like when a man asks all sorts of personal questions on a first date.
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+1 yi can't stand guys that call all the time.. give us time to breathe.. or text every min of the day.. its cute at first but can get really old.. && I hate guys that ask for sex or anything sexual that's way to forward and such a turnoff!
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I've caught onto that when I was younger, but thank you for pointing that one out. +1
+1 yYou know I read a majority of these answers, but it all comes down to if she's attracted to you then she's going to accept you regardless of if you are a bit to forward. If she doesn't then her loss. BUT all girls are different so you just kinda have to be observant, because most girls give out symptoms haha you'll notice some of these though.
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Thank you carie, but this is more for a general guideline for some of my friends that I answer here. I agree with the fact of "just go for it and try the water" but there are certain limits that should be respected.
This question looks awfully familiar... lol. Well I think the biggest part of it is whether or not you feel attraction for him in the first place.
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Exactly, but in the question you are already attracted to each other. Please provide your answer to the question, I enjoy all input. This is for everyone including me because it was inspired from another poster.
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Thank you, so basically any signs of moving too fast or revealing a bad past?
"can we have sex? please? I really want to have sex with you?" no
next day: "So want to have sex?"
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I actually agreed with you, lmao... you're telling everyone else to mature? Get over yourself lady.
+1 yBeing angry all the time, and being far too honest little white lies work sometimes ;)
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+1 ydon't like it when guys try to get really serious too fast what's wrong with takings slow lol I'm in noo rush
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+1 yit's Sexy but jerkyness is not at alll sexy at least for me..just no aggression toward the girl..unless its playfull kinda like my boyfriend :3
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yno girl likes a guy whos too clingy and gets jealous when the girl talks to other guys . Also seeming desperate towards the girl . eg texting 24/7 and constantly flirting might scare her off! just make her have an idea that you like her and you never know , she might make the the first move (:
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+1 yaggressively pushing me (psysically) to hv sex with me..
and I get reli scared and find it so annoying when guys push too hard. in any way. be it asking me out or making do things. scary02 Reply- +1 y
In situations like that, I would hope you call the cops and stop talking to him permanently. That's signs of abuse, if you read the question, I am referring to people you may be attracted to. If you're attracted to abuse, I recommend a therapist
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Yeah I get atttracted to men but once they show their 'true colors' , I back off.
+1 yif the guy always texts you and always does everything
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+1 ywhen a guy maybe gets in bed, of goes too far on a date like touchin.
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