
Low-grade insults meant to undermine the self-confidence of a woman so she might be more vulnerable to your advances. The dude says something negative about your looks to try to lower your social value so he can try to swoop in there?
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That's not actually how negging works (when it works).
There are guys who probably try what you describe but it's not the classic 'neg' from game. Pushing someone's self esteem down to manipulate them works on some people I suppose but more inside a relationship than a pickup and frankly classic game wasn't interested in that.
The classic 'net hit' wasn't designed to lower self esteem. It was actually meant to trigger the competitive instincts in a high self esteem woman. 'neg' hits aren't to knock that woman down to your level. They are to get a woman who -knows- she is hot and is used to men fawning over her interested. Women like this often take it for granted men want them and when a man doesn't they actually try to make him want her to put things back to normal. The man on question can then allow her to win him over at which point she's pleased he didn't just fall for her on sight but instead realized what a magical snowflake she is.
So it's not to knock her self esteem. Rather it's to appear cool, challenge her competitiveness and then ultimately flatter her in the way she would prefer.
Lol that's straight out of Barney's book... and Dennis I think xD
Thanks for the MHO
Yes, plenty of guys have tried to do this on me and it doesn't work on me. I never take what someone says and get offended. I usually just keep it moving. Im sure the guy is upset because your not paying him any attention or giving into his advances. Women shouldn't be mindful of men out there like this.
Yes, I have been insulted like you described but his reason wasn't so that I "might be more vulnerable to his advances". He did that because he was a jerk and a bully. That was a really long time ago and I don't even see this person anymore so I'm over it.
Yes! Last week a guy called me ugly at a party (he was drunk and ridiculous) but he continued asking for my number and telling me that I would be lucky to date someone like him.
Happened to me in middle school with a bunch of guys who were friends. I had awful self esteem , but I couldn't let someone else treat me badly.
I can't say this has ever happened to me and if it did, he'd be outta there pretty quickly.. I see straight through things like that.
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this all came about from the book The Game by Neil Strauss. The pick up artists use that silly stuff LOL... good read though
All guys neg. it's called flirting. It's only stupid people who do it so wrong that it comes off negative. Pick up literature puts it like this so that the generally "nice guys" don't come off as "worshiping" a girl. And it's not about looks only (in fact that would be a bad route), but devaluing anything.
If done right, it's more like harmless banter which is crucial in flirting.
A great example of good negging that works all the time for guys is when a woman, for example says something like:
"I went home last night and masturbated" The guy says "oh I knew you were not a good girl😈" he basically devalued her "good nature" in a fun way.
Yeah I've had women Neg me in an effort to try and get me to fuck them, I've also had women do it to try and manipulate me into doing other stuff for them as well, like running out to the car to get her pictures that she forgot in the car, weird shit like that. Women do it all the god damn time.
I always lol when it happens.
It's more the other way around, it's actually a good way to see how strong her character is. If she gives zero fucks, then our attraction to her skyrockets because she shows confidence. If she starts legit worrying about it then she's crossed off the girlfriend material list.
Counter question - Can you tell the difference between teasing and a low-key insult?
That's kinda unnecessarily mean...
@Sweettoons Why? We all have preferences and do things to see if the person is someone who we can see spending time with. Unconfident guys are crossed off most girl's lists too - in fact way more so.
but putting g another down just to test them? it just seems... hurtful.. I know you might not mean for it to do so, but little comments can really stick. regardless of how confident they are, it would sour you to them.
like regardless of gender and all, that can hurt anyone
I've had friends reconsider their attraction to guys due to that sort of thing, like, if their willing to hurt me, what are they willing to due to strangers? to my family or friends?
@Sweettoons That's why I asked the question. I mean, can YOU tell the difference between teasing and those little comments?
That's another thing though, if a woman can't spot the difference (admittedly it is difficult) then for me personally that is another deal-breaker. I want a woman who can have have a laugh and has he wit to throw small jibes back.
not always. if we're already good friends I would think your teasing. but if we've only known each other for a week or just don't know each other that well, I would think your really rude.
It all comes down to wanting the girl to have the smarts to realise when I'm messing around and if she doesn't, then having the spine to stand up for herself and not be a pushover.
as long as your willing to let he stand up I don't see a problem. thanks for talking about this, it was interesting to get the other side's view.
@Sweettoons Of course I'd let her stand up, it's like I said - if she can actually roast me back it is SO attractive.
I kinda have high expectations for women I date though - they need a strong, fiery personality 😂. You're welcome though!
Well - negging is an insult... not teasing... so Yeah - I can definitely tell the difference.
I do it, but I do it in a teasing way, not to insult her, but to let her know that her looks don't fade me or has me hypnotized like most guys would be. I would only neg really pretty women tho, like 8s and above, bc if they're not pretty, then they will take it as an insult and probably get really mad (self esteem issue).
I don't do that because I think it's just so fucking pathetic and desperate, and of course just a piece of shit move to make. That being said I know that it can work on some girls, especially if they have a terrible self esteem and just want everyone to like them.
it fucking works. not to undermine our confidence. there are girls that literally get off with insults. its the types that hate nice guys like the plague... . they used to get shit treatment from dady or something i guess... .
i dont hate on nice guys but dont like them either.
I agree. I used to talk to this whore who despised me for having conservative value sand loved it when men hit her during sex.
I just say something rude in return, they are shocked and go away. Unsurprisingly all men who tried this had obviously low self confidence.
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pickup_artist.png
I have no idea why that would even work.
I don't think it would ever work.
Not 100% sure as I don't see this as flirty nor as him "making a move", I see it as just another douche being a douche. So needless to say, no it didn't work for him/them, if they were in fact try to score with me.
that sounds completley ridiculous and ignorant.
and that guy in the picture needs to lose the neon gages
His haircut is stupid looking too :')
Umm... I don't know. I mean I've been insulted before but if the guy did it to get in my pants I surely didn't notice and it definitely didn't help his chances.
Negging? Probably dumb people use that method. Teasing on the other hand is fun. But only if you know how to tease the good way.
I have yeah. Some asshole on tinder called me I looked crazy but was then I like crazy etc. Told him where to go, dick.
everyone has been negged it's part of human behaviour. most times it's not intentional. girls do it far more often. it's part of a shit test.
Any guy who does this is an idiot. He has no respect for himself (or the girls he insults) when he does shit like this. Any girl who gets into a relationship with a guy like this is a complete moron.
Interesting. I thought this is what control freak abusive guys who are already in a relationship do to make an insecure woman believe she isn't good enough for anyone else to keep her from leaving.
That's not why negging is done, nor why it sometimes works.
No - when it's done for this reason it's called 'negging'...
When it's done just for being rude or mean - it's not called the same thing...
But I see it as the same thing - because it is - stupid behavior.
It's hard to know who to trust. That's why you set standards before you get into relationships
Isn't 'negging' just flirting (or so called banter in the UK)? :P
Not from the Uk... so wouldn't know, but if that IS true.. then that's messed up. But I doubt it.
I have a few times but it doesn't work.
I usually stop talking to them as soon as that happens.
Yes. And it works if done right with the right impact
More like with the right person...
Since atttaction is generally the first cue of attraction... if she is attracted and has her eyes set on him... and if he does use neg theory... it probably would work towards his advantage
Mainly because she probably gets tons of guys telling how
Sexy
Pretty
Beautiful
Hot
She is... so this makes him stand out a little and be different... which is why it often times works
Yup, I put an end to that quickly. He came after me and one of the guys in my group of friends told him to stop following me around. The dude got scared and went away.
I always treat girls like sh*t, but I will never insult there looks. Guys who insult girls looks are pervs and rapist!!!
The minute they try it is the deal-breaker, and yes.
It's a really dumb move on his part.
That's some specialized planning and many years of hard dedicated focus and learning to try and pick up a chick... Yeah... Not worth it for me.
I can see it happen Sally. But fortunately never saw it happen in reality :D
this technique is miss and hit sometimes but if you do know how to manipulate and is also fairly good looking guy with a decent financial standing then nothing stands in your way.
All the time!!! I didn't even realize there was a name for this until recently.
Does it work?
Yeah this has happened to me a lot. Doesn't really work on me though
Dont women do this all the time? They insult your masculinity to make you more prone to comply with them. It happens a lot.
Any normal person would think that compliments get you pussy much faster. Didn't even know this shit existed lol
Worst way to try and get women. Even if you are successful, you will be with a girl who gets affected by other people's opinion easily. Both need to up their game.
unless ure only in it for the sex. it would be good for getting girls who r clearly above ur level.
I've never even heard of it before now. Thankfully no haha.
Women do the same thing, they just don't call it negging.
Nope I've never had a guy do that to me... they usually do the opposite actually
Does that work?
Not really, no. It's like they sense that it would never work ever
That happens more than women think and it actually works its so funny how many women are unaware of what's going on to them sometimes.
if she falls for it then you're both dumbasses and you deserve ALL the problems that come with each other
I didn't even know this was a thing. I feel old and out of the loop now lol.
https://www.beloit.edu/mindset/previouslists/2017/
This will make you feel older still
@pervertedjester Damn it really did lol. I can only imagine how my grandparents feel.
I read that list every year... keeps the ego in check... somewhat.
i just love eo make girls feel like shitif they aren't up to standar
I'd hope he'd get a firm backhand and be looking for teeth. Jesus. Really?
I like to make them seem prettier than they are so that I'll bring out their true personality.
Nah can't say I have had that some on me at any point
Thank this guy called mystery for treaching dumbasses to be dumber with women
Taurus and Geminis all do this
I resent that. I'm a Taurus and I've only ever complimented girls to get with them, no matter how many times it doesn't work.
I'm a Taurus and I didn't even know this was a thing.
Taurus are highly in-denial with life too
I would know because I am also
*I'll chime in and say Libras do this a lot. Also Pisces - if they feel brave/stupid enough.
I never meet a Pisces but I can see Libras doing that
I don't believe in astrology either way, but to each their own.
that sounds like a mental issue thing
I've worked around people with actual mental illnesses.
It sounds nothing like that.
I've been negged on the misc.
Negged? Is that seriously a thing?
No but I doubts it would work.
I think every woman has been
No, it wouldn't work either :o
Yes I have. Didn't work.
What did they do?
Been told my boobs are too small. Feelsbadman
I slap guys who try that shit
Lol the game. What a shitty book.
Who would do this lol..
Not all guys can pull that off. But its Game.
Yes I have
I don't think so.
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