Looks are vital to a woman these days, particularly the college brats. Look at the women in the open with the men they associate with. The guys are always tall, healthy, good looking and usually in the same ethnicity. RARELY do you find women with anything else such as a fat guy with money or an average, older man with great personality. The proof is right in front of women everyday but they simply will not admit it.
When a woman sees a man for the first time, a five second clock ticks away. In that time, she decides if a man is a yes-type or a no-type using looks and appearance as the determining factor. If he's a no-type, forget it. There's nothing a man can do other than using his great personality to upgrade as friend-zoned forever. If a man is a yes-type, he better work things out perfectly. Women are extremely emotional and hyper-sensitive creatures with their own standards and values. All it takes is one wrong thing said or done, no matter how trivial they may be to us men, and the deal's off. FOREVER.
Your suffering is no different from any other man. It was about thirteen years ago when I stopped counting rejections after I reached 26,400. I was not even looking at the super hot babes because rejection was imminent. Can't blame women, it's our fault for training them to be picky. Starts with the dad and it snowballs into an avalanche from there.
Looks are way too important during initial contact. There are other criteria that women use such as:
Tall
Handsome
Athletic
Rich
Race-specific
Age-specific
Miscellaneous
Following those much later would be personality and confidence. Yet these last two don't always apply because many women do like shy and seclusive men. Go figure.
Solution? I don't have one. ANY man who thinks they know women are fools. Women are extremely complex creatures, even God himself don't know everything about them. Just how it is. I strongly believe that luck is the biggest factor in getting women.
Good luck, drink less and continue your chakra training!10 Reply
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1.5K opinions shared on Flirting topic. Looks matter...but not as much for females, as it does for guys.
What matters is making yourself look as good as possible primping and hygiene-wise (smelling good with a fragrance makes a difference; trust me).
Social skills and confidence (aka, accepting the pros AND CONS of yourself as a person), matter 70% of the female attraction equation.
How you look and present yourself from a physical standpoint, is ~30%.
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Another important note...make sure you realistically rate yourself on what females would rate YOU on a 1-10 scale, and aim for girls around that number.
So many dude aim for mainly (to their standards) 9s and 10s, when most females would rate them a 4, and wonder why they're having problems approaching females.30 Reply
Ummm if you keep getting rejected time and time again then maybe you are just choosing girls who are outta your league or you have a sh*tty personality. If you are an average guy, on a scale from 1-10 a 5 maybe then if you're constantly shooting for girls that are 9or10s then there's the problem. No offense but a lot of the time guys shoot for the hot beautiful girls way outta there league and overlook the ones that are more on the average scale. Also if you have been rejected as much as you say you have then your confidence is prob pretty low which most women find pretty unattractive. maybe it seems like you have a chip on your shoulder from all the rejection and that is a major woman repellent. Work on ways to spruce up your appearance to help build your confidence and work on having a more positive attitude and maybe you will just find yourself a great girl:)
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So then there is a league, we we may not be able to qualify for?
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That whole chip on the shoulder thing is a bloody paradox though. It's there because girls never gave the guy a chance, and due to that guy's don't give him a chance. Paradox's are cruel.
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"...and due to that GIRLS don't give him a chance." Damn typos...
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Yes I do believe to a certain extent that there are "leagues." People generally tend to be attracted to people of close to the same attractiveness. In all reality men are able to get women who are more attractive then they are, not the other way around. 1st and foremost I do need to be physically attracted, but there are a hell of lot other things I look for as well. Personality, humor, kindness, etc. Its a ridiculas statement to say that all women want are looks. Most women are not that shallow
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Alright, I see what you're getting at. I agree wholly with you.
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Nope from ugly to above average I have been rejected by all.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yDo you approach women you don't find attractive? You have your standards, and the women you approach have theirs. For all you know, maybe they rejected you because they didn't like the way you acted or you turned them off. There are plenty of guys who aren't male models that have a girlfriend. But if you aren't a male model, don't be chasing after girls who look like models either, it works both ways.
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I approach everyday girls. lol the only standard I would be size, but other than that that's it.
Opinion Owner+1 yBut you're still attracted to the women you do approach. You don't approach women of a certain size because you don't find them attractive
+1 yYes, that is absolutely correct. Women will only ever date men who look like male models. Apparently the human race is nearing extinction because of this problem.
Grow up.181 Reply
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Most girls will happily admit that looks do matter.
The thing to remember is that looks aren't the most important thing. But if you're just approaching girls who know nothing, or very little about you - they have nothing but looks to go of. So they can't judge by anything else.
Approach is very important; I'm imagining you're going about it all wrong.22 Reply- +1 y
You essentially just proved my point...
969 opinions shared on Flirting topic. You can check out my pics in my profile. Do I look like a male model to you? HAHAHAHA.
Girls are less picky about guy's looks than guys are about girls, so you are seriously blaming the WRONG thing for your failures. And I call BS on you asking 100 girls; if you did, I *promise* you that you'd have gotten a "yes" or two by now.26 Reply- +1 y
You are below in looks aswell: weak chin, weak jaw, receding hairline? Overweight.
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LOL. My hair isn't receding; my hairline hasn't moved since I was 10. But, yes, I'm fat and definitely not great looking. I'm also not rich (don't even have full-time employment right now). And, yet, despite these obvious flaws, I don't have any trouble getting women. Obviously, there's more to the equation than looks or cash...
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Look, a guy with my looks definitely isn't going to get EVERY girl, for sure. I'm not saying it wouldn't be easier to get girls if I looked like [insert Hollywood hunk's name]. But even my ugly ass can get plenty of women.
If you are putting all your hopes on one or two girls, you're going to fail. If you genuinely approach every woman you find attractive, and talked to them with relaxed confidence, it won't take you very long to find one who is interested in you.
+1 yI think that women are just as superficial as men these days.
I have seen so many people pass up a good thing just because someone isn't "male model" status. I appreciate someone who takes care of themselves that matters a lot, hygiene and health are a big thing, but personality means EVERYTHING, and people don't see that.20 Reply- 496 opinions shared on Flirting topic.
+1 yAnd no guy would look a girl's way if she doesn't look like a Victoria's Secret model, so I guess we're even.
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Not true. Generalisation... but wait let me just scroll up... yep he generalised too to be fair.
I've had a crush on a fair few girls who perhaps aren't in that 'league' with a victoria's secret model on looks... some models are weird looking and not so attractive though anyway. And the whole thing with models having to be tall. Man that is some discriminatory BS. Some right beautiful model looking girls who wouldn't technically be tall enough out there. - +1 y
That's why I said Victoria's Secret model, because unlike the skeletons on most runways, they are the actual "ideal" as far as women go.
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Not true to my answer or my comment?
Well looks do mater , but you can always improve them so not really that bad .
By improve them I mean maybe workout , dress nice and simple things like that .
As other guys said you got to have a game if you want to play The game (it does exist :P) .
PS. If you are a true shinobi you will find the way lol :P10 Replyyo for sure looks matter bro, any girl that says otherwise is just bullsh*ttin, HOWEVER you are not supposed to have girls look your way, your supposed to go after them, picking up girls is mad easy, if I can do it then so can you, I'm not that good looking bro so take it from me, its definitley possibly. Go watch simplepickup on YouTube if you don't believe me.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYou mean "no cute girl" will look your way. Ugly guys only go after good looking girls and wonder why they fail.
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Look up Doug Hutchison. Okay it's probably because of how rich he is... or she just has huge daddy issues. But still, look him up.
There are plenty more I can't think of oh hey here's one David Walliams! Gosh darn his wife is GORGEOUS! And Heidi Klum went with Mr. "Looks like his Face was Defaced by a Pack of Hyenas" Seal.
Opinion Owner+1 y3 examples of rich famous guys. No real world guy gets that luxury
+1 yWell how do you approach them - "Hey girl, you like anime? Cause I do!" ? Sorry but a guy could literally be a male model and I'd reject him if he watched stupid anime. And looks aren't everything, you probably just don't know how to approach them.
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Lol. Kudos on the dig at anime. I don't get why some people worship that stuff. It's just a bloody cartoon!
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Are you stupid, what does anime have to do with this?
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Girls hate anime. Just like they apparently hate you. I'm the stupid one? Never been rejected in my life. Maybe be a little more bitter and rude.
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^ gets it.
hey man don't worry about it, women that reject a guy for his looks are shallow, they don't know what they are missing out on, it's funny because I was out the other day with my friends and these group of women were bitching about where all the good guys are lol..seriously right
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yLooka matter, of course. Bur if you have a bad attitude, it also matters. My friends have told me that my boyfriend isn't handsome but that he has "something". My cousins say he's ugly, but I like him and he turns me on hardcorely.
If your looks are not your forte, what else have you got?20 Reply660 opinions shared on Flirting topic. If girls are rejecting you, I'm positive it's not because of your looks. The guy I've had a crush on for the past year is a tall, awkward looking, pimple faced nerdy boy. But I like him because he's smart and funny.
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+1 yWhat a baby, awwwww you're life is so hard!
The reality is these girls you're approaching are sensing what all of us here are, that you're not a man and you enjoy being the victim.30 Replypoor chuck.
go to school, make a lot of money and you will improve your looks.40 ReplyYou got unlimited tries. Keep that sh*t going! Screw looks.
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This. *high five*
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou'll have the last laugh. Women usually age like crap unless their husbands have enough money to keep them looking good (i.e.- boob jobs, botox, lifts, etc). We get better looking with age.
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That's true, I'll always have the option of escorts when I get the money.
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I agree, I'm not gay, but look at Eddie Vedder and Dave Ghrol. *swoon* I think a bit of that has to do with the amazing music they make.
Opinion Owner+1 yOnce again, men age better than women.
you should rethink your standards if they keep saying no all the time
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yAt least you have found the strength to ask women out at least 100 times. I have probably been rejected 5 or so times and I'm totally terrified of women. I'd take your ability to keep going than to have my cowardice
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+1 yYou should try an approach like this.
https://youtu.be/d82Lmy46uTQ00 Reply
+1 yMaybe you live in a too superficial place AND go to too many superficial places in that superficial place to boot. Maybe...
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+1 yYes, I agree, nice and average. But there are pretty church girls who go for average or ugly guys ;)
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I'm the only person in my age group @ church.
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Try a different church, there are other options. Or request to be put into a higher or lower age group, considering that you are the only one.
+1 yThat makes no sense. Aren't most people average looking? Stop blaming your looks. Work to better yourself in all ways. Male models are creepy.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMaybe your standard is too high? Try to approach nice average girls instead of hot popular girls.
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I'm in college not high school.
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she never said anything about high school lol
can I ask how you were approaching these girls? Tell me what you said.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 ymaybe you should stop getting advice from Naruto and actually get out and get some real life experiences AND learn.
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+1 ygotta treat it like the lottery or fix your approach
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI'll bet anything your game just sucks.
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Lol game doesn't exist.
Opinion Owner+1 yyou just proved my point.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yif your not good looking it does make it harder but its not impossible like you are trying to say it is
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+1 yBut you like Zabuza? D:
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Without Zabuza naruto wouldn't be popular fact.
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But there is still the anime Michael Jackson on there...
100 times, that's impressive
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+1 yhuh weird... non of my ex's were male models =/
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+1 yMeanwhile in Africa...
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As an African myself I find that disrespectful.
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She's just stating that there are more important things going on over there.
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