I refuse to believe, that women dont want our money

[Anonymous]

It always ends up the same way. Women saying one thing but doing the other: they say they dont care about our money, then they proceed with getting into relationships with men, who have more money, that they can spend it on her with flowers, gifts, expensive meals, shoes, bags, jewelries and so on like every time they meet.

I am not broke but I am not rich either. So dont think i am one of those broke losers, who complain about women because they can't afford one. Unlike incels i dont hate women but what i do hate is such a common dishonesty.

We call this common practice hypergamy.

I have to go anon this time.

This used to be a question until I saw this

So therefore this is a short mytake instead.

[PeacefulRainDrop]

I think your right most women and men are after your/my money.. I think it is basically a what can you do for me world... when your no longer benefiting cause of a loss of job or something beyond your control they walk away.. as much as we all hate to admit it I think deep down people just want a significant other that adds to their life.. its become less about the person and more about what that person has.. rarely you find someone that cares more about the person but they are out there.. its trial and error.. quick ways I have weeded them out.. first date always say separate bills.. money grabbing people won't give you a second date.. or you get the I forgot my wallet.. look how they manage their money.. do they budget or is daddy coming to the rescue? Do they have discipline to walk away from something they like? The whole can you buy this I will pay you back rarely happens.. I just say its nice but I can't itll probably be here still payday.. payday happens and most of the time they forget about the tools or clothes they felt like they couldnt live without.. its our society that teaches people they need things now! Hope this helps!

[Queenista]

Nowadays women can bear their own expenses , they don't need a man for tat. I have spent more on my partner then they spending on me.. believe me much much more. ... and for all those guys who say girls want only money then y after marriage men r forcing them to give all her salary and also to bring money from her parents.. so there are some men who want everything from women- their body, their money, their freedom everything, like wise there are women who expect men shud bare their expenses.. not all r same

[roland77]

Very true! Sad to see that those jerks, they break women's heart a lot. :-(

[eschneider]

women in general can't bear their own expense, most of the welfare used is by women, if they are so financially stable they why is there alimony and ridiculous child support amounts? Men even pay most of the taxes in this country which a lot of it is to support single moms.

[Queenista]

Don't generalise. Who told u today's women can't bear their expenses? Get ur data properly first... for ur qn of alimony n child support- I'll give u my example itself - during my married life I was bearing all household expenses including rent, waterbills, electricity bills, groceries everything as my huby told he will do savings for us ( which he never did).. after my son was born I was clear my huby is just a selfish man, I gve him divorce n did not take one penny also as almony or for child support.. From the time my son is born I'm taking care of him in all possible ways- financially, emotionally etc... and for your information i do pay taxes.. at any time I go out with male counterparts I equally spend or spend more than what they spend on me... there are women who depend on men but there r men who depend on women.. single moms hve additional responsibility of playing two roles.. single fathers r not common in society.. only giving money is not everything... being there for child is also equally important..

[eschneider]

excuse me, you generalized (incorrectly). I guess you're that special Unicorn. Because in general women Divorce-Rape men, steal their children, and almost always file the divorce. The stats are there, there's no ignoring it. Men pay over 70% of the taxes, women on average a small negative.
Most men want the woman at home taking care of the home, also most women don;t make enough income to cover the cost of child care so i would be a net loss.

[newkinkboy1818]

I can only speak for my personal experience and I was in a relationship for 10 years, I own multiple properties, I work hard I financed 2 businesses for my partner, purchased her a car, etc for 10 years she always said she didn't care about money, I recently broke up with her and first thing she did was see a lawyer to see what she could get out of me. Fortunately my assets are in trust and she couldn't get f all from me. i still let her keep Car and some cash but I have to agree a lot are just after money

[dbr1987]

I'm happy for you your assets where in trust. One of the first question women ask is: wHaT Do yOu Do FoR liViNg? They know the higher paying jobs

[girish_shah10]

My wife tried to do that after seven years of marriage, I lost my three business and my house. Now I live with six guys in a 2-bed apartment (3 beds per room) in Toronto, Canada. Doing one minimum wage job and food delivery on my off time still paying her half of my income, I think that's the trend as soon as you break up; they try to get every penny out of you.

[dbr1987]

Yes that's how they operate. Unfortunatly you learned the hard way

[myTake Owner]

How did you place your assets in trust?

[newkinkboy1818]

I'm in Australia so not sure where you're from or how things may differ but I opened a PTY LTD company and trust account in conjunction with my company, it works for me for two main reasons, one being to protect my assets from being seized should anything happen within the company and secondly the reason I mentioned above. Basically all my assets are in the PTY LTD company which the trust controls. I couldn't be more specific but my accountant set it up for me and boy am I thankful for that.. To girlish my ex partner was Canadian also, on top of everything else I did for her I paid for her residency in Australia also.

[Taylor_C]

Maybe you're lookinng for the wrong kind of woman. Apparently you've only been with poorly educated, unambitious types with no career prospects and no real lives of their own. If that's the types (which is what I call trailer trash even if they don't actually live in a trailer park), it's all your own fault.

[kaangah]

You would be surprised to know the number of women who take care of men with their money. It's sad gold digging happens but women who want genuine love don't care about a man's money once bit. Of course, a man would like to buy nice things for the woman to make her feel appreciated and loved but that is not the women's aim, to live off the man's money.

[myTake Owner]

Where on earth are women sponsoring a mans living?

[kaangah]

everywhere on 🌍

[Taylor_C]

My mother supported my father when he was doing postgraduate studies.

[kaangah]

@Taylor_C Thats a good woman - your mother.

[Anonymous]

As you've already stated that you "refuse to believe" that women don't want your money, I doubt anything I say will convince you, but I'll try. If I go on by just stating my opinion, you're not going to listen, so let me get straight to it. Whenever I go out, no matter who I go out with, I always pay happily. Whether it's for food or shopping. If I'm going out myself, you can be certain that I'm using my own money. If I'm going out with my friends, I usually insist on paying myself or splitting the bill, as I never want to feel like I owe someone. With my ex, he always wanted to pay, but so did I, so we were able to split the bill, ensuring that it was always equal. I put my point across by stating that it's unfair otherwise and he always listened because I'm quite persuasive, however he wouldn't stop going on about how he wants to pay. I didn't understand this until one day, I was hanging out with his friends and they found out that we always split the bill. They went and on and on about why I should have let him pay the bill, and realised this is probably why he was so insistent on letting him pay. At this point, many people would give in and let him pay, but I stood by what I said, and we continued to split the bill. Now that you know this about me, I'm just very confused. You seem to believe that I, as a woman, must want your money, as you are a man. Please explain why and how you think this

[myTake Owner]

all good. i am having low expectations so that i am not going to be disappointed in the end.

[newblinds]

You're right to not believe that women don't want a man's money.

I've heard they tend to date across and up but they don't tend to date the people who are poorer than they are.

It would seem they judge males on their status or earning potential, but also would accept short term mating opportunities with a person with good physical attributes who may earn less than the significant other, who is the resource provider partner.

So the resource provider may end up raising children who aren't all biologically related to him.

The females may lock down the resource provider so they're taken care of while raising children, could be in the woman's biology.

It seems men judge based on physical attractiveness but not on a woman's job situation, so they wouldn't care if she is poor but not sure if it's better than the way females judge males.

Not sure whether a man would seek out an unattractive successful women so his offspring would have access to better resources, don't think I've heard much of that.

Lots of anecdotal points of view trying to say that females don't select mates in this way but only who they "like", probably trying to avoid the "gold digger" label, but it seems clear that males and females select mates based on different criteria and that the female criteria happens to include money more than the male criteria.

[tiajoka]

False. My boyfriend rarely buys me gifts, all pretty inexpensive. I tell him I'd prefer something made or written anyway
Plus I lend him and give him money when he does need it for emergencies like his housing falling through or not having enough to get something to eat.
It's fine though because I want to help him, and I know that roles reversed he'd do the same for me. Just I wouldn't let him, because it's hard for me to accept even a parent or best friend buying me something randomly (though it's super appreciated)
I just believe In hard work and self sufficientcy. Though I know my health is declining so I'm honest with my partner that I'll help him through school but eventually im going to have to limit to part time at home while he supports me.
Real relationships are about supporting each other and helping get through; not staying with them for Gucci merch. Though some people feel loved through gifts, and that's not bad either. Read up on the 5 love languages and you'll get it.

[LittleTurtleDuck]

I don't think it's as much about money as it is about being treated nicely/feeling important.
There are a lot of people who feel validated by the gifts they receive and money that is spend on them.
There are also people who enjoy the time people spend with them or enjoy getting compliments.

There are 5 lovelanguages: gifts, physical, compliments, time and acts of service.
Gifts is one that usually involves money. So in a way those people "want your money". That in itself is not bad, but being dishonest about it is not okay, I agree on that.

I do however feel the need to tell you that not all women are deceiving and lying: some will openly tell you that gifts is what they want from you, and others (like me) do not even like it when you spend money on them, makes them feel like you try to buy them.

So I hope you will find women who are or honest about it or have a different lovelanguage.

[Anonymous]

Maybe you should increase your standards.

"They say they dont care about our money" > No. Most self-respecting women with jobs really don't care for your money. We've our own.

"Who have more money, that they can spend it on her with flowers, gifts, expensive meals, shoes, bags, jewelries and so on like every time they meet" > I take it you date jobless women. Potential welfare recipients? Seriously, no offense, but most self-respecting women with jobs buy this ourselves. The occasional gift (personally, as a country gal you could take all this garbage & burn it, I'd much rather have a toolset) is nice but it isn't expected.

[bamesjond0069]

This is opposite. Girls with jobs are way more demanding. They can buy their own $200 jewelry so they expect $800 jewelry to get their attention. Girls without jobs will be so appreciative if you buy them something off the dollar menu at mcdonalds.

[Opinion Owner]

@bamesjond0069 Again increase your standards. If you hang around tramps you'll get treated like a tramp. I've never had a guy buy me anything except dinner. I've no need.

[bamesjond0069]

Im talking about in general. I've dated enough to know in general what works and what doesn't. Many (not all) girls who make money have high expectations and many (not all) girls who make little or no money have low expectations and really appreciate the smallest gestures. And thats so wrong where you say you "have no need", most men want to buy things and take care of their girl hows he going to buy you something so impressive that you are appreciative and so that he can enjoy giving you such a thing? Really sucks the fun out of gift giving for real.

[Opinion Owner]

@bamesjond0069 I grew up in farm country, boyo. Explain to me what good is a couple of hundred dollar necklace on an easily breakable chain working with 1,200lb horses? He might as well burn his money. My guy gets gifts, practical gifts. I've no need for the junk you mentioned from the start.

[bamesjond0069]

Well maybe he would buy you a $500 gun but if you make a bunch of money that won't please you nearly as much as a $3000 gun. 😂 whereas my girlfriend is thrilled if i bought her a basic and used one for $200. Lol. The specifics dont matter.

[sejla]

@bamesjond0069 who the heck are you dating where they are expecting $800 jewelry?

[myTake Owner]

That's really nice :)

[bamesjond0069]

@sejla girls that are like managers at a bank or attorneys or phds that do talks all over the country.

[VenusSweets]

It depends on the women you go after, for example. If you get a thot or someone who wants a "Suggar daddy" Then what did you expect? But it's not all girls that go after money, those who play video games, read books, like to paint, etc. And if you need a real example, then in my last relationship, I didn't care about money because literary I paid for most things that were for him only not for myself. Don't be so fixed minded and assume everyone I the same based on their gender, it's like saying all men are pigs, when in reality that's far from truth.

[Sarahr123]

I didn’t want my boyfriend for money and I didn’t marry him for money. He was my first love at 14 and he was 19 we were friends until I was 17 and he was 22 which is when we started our courtship. He didn’t buy me anything during our courtship and we didn’t spend a single penny most of our meetings were zero cost and I didn’t expect anything because I loved him and I only wanted him even if we lived on the street. Now recently he has settled down a bit and that was a requirement by my parents, not myself so we got married. He only started buying me presents after marriage but I tell him not to because I don’t like presents. I split the cost of our wedding and we paid 50/50 and I always buy him costly presents because I am giving and generous by nature. I may be an exception but I like to be given the respect for that. I don’t come under that category of women. All I wanted was love, loyalty and respect.

[Shamalien]

IN GENERAL, women do want our money. Frankly, so long as they are willing to bear my many children and keep me happy, I see no issue with it, happy to provide, and I think most men share this opinion. We are all fking twisted, this isn't even the point we should be arguing about.

Women getting brought resources is pretty damn natural, hard to argue with it, girls should stop fighting their femininity and just embrace it, haven't we been playing this little game long enough? Just let go of the bullshit propaganda that was drilled into you all your life and give in to what you know would actually make you happy, it makes us happy too.

[Meropatrick]

Women like money and stability as much as men like beauty and youth.(there are exceptions, there are some women who work and earn what they got)
Its how evolution works. Women look for a provider the strongest, the more rich, more powerful man. So they can raise a family. That is why a guy like trump had many affairs despite i wouldn't touch him with a prosthetic hand. Guys who are rich, famous... never struggle to find a woman. (The guy ann Nicole smith married was an 80 year old billionaire, Melanie trump. Bill clinton and monica... etc.

[jss123]

It depends. I just dated a woman who was only interested in what she could get from me. The moment I asked her about her feelings for me she cut me.. The reason why I asked is she was going away on a long trip and told me she'd miss all the nice things I buy her while she's gone. Not that she'd miss me.. She told me she doesn't know what to say and never answered my question. We'd dated for two years and that's all she could say...
I dated someone else who told me she doesn't want material things from me just me. So every women is different. You just need to lookout for the red flags of a user...

[Randomawkwardness]

Am I supposed to want a partner who has no job or ambition? I'm not going to put myself and my life on the line for someone who can't even get a minimum wage job. While I'm not interested in spending your money or even keeping track of it, especially as that is super abusive, I am going to look for someone who is actually put together and knows what they're doing with their life. No one wants a dead beat for a partner - doesn't matter if it's a man or woman.

[roland77]

Money doesn't buy love. Rich in money, poor in love. :-) Rich people worry to much about staying rich, poor don't have to worry about it. They know how to make a good and decent life with low cash. Sad that vegan food is expensive while meat is cheap. :-( I stick with vegetarian, at least meat-free.

[Chase7777]

I couldn't care less about anyones "ambitions", they most likely dissolve to dust in the future anyways.

[Vulture051]

That's because they DO. They're not evil it's just how female attraction works. Same way we're attracted to hot young thangs.

Need proof? Just look at rich women. Do they marry the hot pool boy? The starving artist with a heart of gold? How about their equally rich neighbor?
Hell no, they go after a man that is even richer than they are.

[myTake Owner]

Seeing is believing.

[tropicalfruit]

Okay, so this is just my opinion on the subject, but I DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY. I hate accepting gifts, I hate it when people get me expensive things, if they get me something nice, I have to get them something better. I cannot accept anything without felling guilty, without feeling that I cheated the other person.

[roland77]

Very good of you!

[The1Guy]

Of course they do. Although that depends on their upbringing wether they let you know or not. They might not even know theirselves but it's just a fact of life, that women look for someone who will provide for them.

But you don't need much, just enough. The rest you can give her in attention in your relationship to her and her children.

If you have an endless amount of money, this will not satisfy a woman. You can't buy yourself out of giving her loving attention.

[kibbenkat]

I agree

[Ianto]

It is fairly well established that women only really notice about 20% of guys sexually. Since more than 20% of women have partners, there must be some motive for keeping those sub-standard guys about.
It does not take a genius to realise that since they aren't there for their looks they are probably wanted as providers.
Why rail against reality? It makes as much sense as women complaining that guys only want them for sex. There are sound reasons why things are the way they are. You can work with reality, or struggle against it. You won't change it.

[whipitout]

I’d like to put forward the possibility that in the situation you’ve presented, there are other things a woman may want. Primarily companionship.

I’d also like to ask where you discovered this 20% figure because I have never come across this. And if it is backed by good science, then is it sexual attraction to men at any point in their relationship with that man, or only initially when they see them and before interaction? Because I can tell you for certain that the vast majority of women I know may think a man is good looking from a distance, but will only actually think he’s sexually attractive when she interacts with him.

[Taylor_C]

How about friendship, companionship, being comrades in arms?

[roland77]

@whipitout I think he made that "fact" out of levels of testosterone? Otherwise, my ex-wife must be an exception as I had daily sex with her. And I should then quit my current girlfriend (which I'm not, we both have same high sex-drive).

[roland77]

@whipitout Sorry, made love to. Not having sex. :-) And she wanted it a lot, too.

[sejla]

Unless you want your children to be living in a cardboard box most likely as a man one would have some sort of job. I would assume that men have some pride in taking care of his children if a relationship lead him that way. Women don't have to have protectors but some hope they are not one the rough oceans all by themselves.

[Anonymous]

I refuse to believe, that men don't want our body (and will lie, cheat, deceive, manipulate to get it - generally speaking of course, unlike you).

And there are plenty of guys who want women's money, too.

[Pamina]

You can believe whatever bullshit you want to believe.

[whipitout]

The perfect response

[kibbenkat]

He has evidence and experience to support this, and so do I. I spent $150 on a girl for her to turn right around and cheat on me with some guy with a tractor.

[Pamina]

@kibbenkat Sucks for you. Still bullshit.

[roland77]

He has some valid points, some women are expensive to maintain, I had a woman with me only for a couple of times and she managed to grab 250 EUR from me for just that. She is desperate after money and I threw her out of my life because of that. She is blocked on my mobile, too. But generally said, it is his life-experience he made, please accept that fact.

[kibbenkat]

@roland77 thanks bro 💞 (and lol I’m a chick, I just date women and usually am the sugar mommy of the couple)

[roland77]

@kibbenkat Hmm, should I? Okay: Let me get this straight, pardon the expression. You called me "bro"? #MarriedWithChildren

[Pamina]

@roland77 None of that is relevant to what I said. Both of you are completely missing the point. The point is that he thinks his personal experiences mean that it's *generally* true. And that makes him an idiot.

What it says about you two if you think he's right, I'll leave up to you two geniuses...

[kibbenkat]

@Pamina Personal experiences create wisdom. It’s not wrong to form a hypothesis based on your observations. All scientists create formulas based on hypothesis that we follow as fact today. Many have similar findings in their own experiences as the OP—that strengthens the hypothesis, forming a conclusion. How does that make the OP an idiot?

[roland77]

@Pamina I know he is generalizing a bit because of not seeing that there are millions of other females out there. I I still don't find it right to write bullshit here because there are indeed some bad women out there. My girlfriend sees them every day, they are greedy and desperate at heart and will only take males for their money. Still there she is, even feeling shame for receiving (not asking me for) money from me because I choose to.

[Pamina]

@kibbenkat That's absolutely not how science works, kid. Aristoteles did a lot of amazing things, but we can be thankful we're not still practicing his scientific method. Maybe read up on how the modern scientific method works and why it is so much more accurate than earlier ones. Empiricism is just a tiny tool in the whole process of science.

[Pamina]

@roland77 "I know he is generalizing a bit"
- A bit? Oh fuck off.

"because there are indeed some bad women out there."
- No one claimed otherwise and that's hardly a revelation. There's bad people (men and women) out there. Well no shit! Who would have guessed!

"Still there she is, even feeling shame for receiving (not asking me for) money from me because I choose to."
- Exactly. But you're apparently of the impression that your girlfriend is an "exception" or something? I don't know. Is my boyfriend an exception from all those horrible men out there? Are we talking about how many bad PEOPLE are out there? No, because that's not what the Asker was going on about.

[Anonymous]

Most guys don't have a lot of money and have no reason to worry, if they only stay away from trailer trash type women. Most guys that do have a lot of money tend to go for women who also have a lot of money. Most women have their own income and are not financially dependent on the guy.

[lucas262]

Better if she has more, then she will pay you child support and alimony

[divspppp]

There have also been so many instances where broke men scam women in relationships where women send money to men too. How would u explain that?

[roland77]

I would like to believe you, please bring up a link to them (being exposed as such). Maybe then it is easier to believe. Still there are males out there, pretending to be a lonely female and scam a lot on males. Remember those love-romance scams? https://www.rescam.org

[myTake Owner]

They're losers.