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I'm dating a femboy atm and someone like that is a better fit for me than a guy with a beard who is going to fist-bump me over sports and say "bro" a lot.
And I must say that most women really like how I allow myself to be cute and I'm not ashamed of pretty things. It's masculine to walk your own path rather than let other people dictate what you do :)
I'm not going to walk around in a dress or anything but I'm not going to change who I am to fit society.
Awesome dude I hope you are happy 👍🙂
i don't exactly like overly muscular or arrogant guys, (the sterotype of masculinity. ) I just like guys who can call me out for my BS and who don't always kiss my feet. i hate being treated like a fragile porcelain doll who can't handle the truth. Most guys these days will say and do whatever to get laid or to not be lonely. They will throw away their entire personality to please a women. These not only turns of women , but it makes men suffer. Most women want a man who dosn't care what women think and marches to the beat of his own drum. (i'm not saying the cliche be yourself I am saying speak your mind.) It's better for and your women in the long run. If she's getting fat , tell her she's getting fat , if she's nagging you tell her she's nagging you. simple as that. She might get a little upset at first , but trust me she likes it.
GSP is so hot though
Based on how you look. You should take what you can get. But you do have the right to an opinion. So keep yourself in the kitchen, quit your job because you are lesser to men and shouldn't take jobs that a man could have, and make sure you crank out babies as that's a woman's bilogical purpose. If you can't do this or want other things you're definitely a lesser woman.
Your funny
I mostly disagree with these points, the only one i can honest support 100% is the "don't play mind games one" but not being able to emotional is not a good thing. I don't cry or show "weak" emotions that much and i know it's unhealthy. On the outside i might seem like a good thing but being able to open up in a relationship is pretty important and emotions play a big part in that. I know it's to late for me but I'll teach my boys (when they are born) better
Nah, I’d much rather have a man in a skirt than a man with no skirt and a shit load of toxic masculinity
Toxic Masculinity doesn't exist. Individuals are toxic.
@Usernamej58 yes, you’re true to a certain extent but you’re misunderstanding what I said. Toxic masculinity doesn’t mean that “men are toxic” down bellow is a Wikipedia definition to clarify
toxic masculinity is used in academic and media discussions of masculinity to refer to certain cultural norms that are associated with harm to society and to men themselves. Traditional stereotypes of men as socially dominant, along with related traits such as misogyny and homophobia, can be considered "toxic" due in part to their promotion of violence, including sexual assault and domestic violence.
That’s what I was referring to, I’m fine with men that aren’t toxic in general and that have toxic masculinity.
The problem is that 'Toxic Masculinity' is a term made up by women who don't know the first thing about Masculinity and what it means to be a man. Men don't claim to understand femininity and certain don't cast aspersions on women in this way.
Men have created such a safe and secure society where women have become emboldened enough to hate the very traits that makes society great.
The traits associated with 'Toxic Masculinity' such as Aggression, Stoicism, Dominance, Violence etc are all things that made great men throughout history. It's the reason we have a complex society where women work well paid jobs that are ultimately useless unless the society around it exists. If civilisation were to end tomorrow, men with these traits would be the ones to survive and rebuild. The weak effeminate men would be the first to die and the women will abandon them for the stronger males they deemed 'Toxic' before.
Your mistake is to think that men can be just like women: Emotional, Irrational, Nurturing, Passive and still be men.
How would you like it if men started saying women should be tougher, not cry as much, and be logical and less empathetic?
You wouldn't like that would you?
@Usernamej58 you’re misunderstanding what I said. Toxic masculinity doesn’t mean that traditional masculinity in general is toxic, its referring to the toxic forms of masculinity and yes there are toxic forms of femininity as well.
And yet it's always 'toxic maculinity' we hear is the problem. The term is a weapon used by feminists to demean men and push them to passivity.
If you look up what they mean by 'toxic masculinity' then you'll see the traits I outlined in my previous answer. These are important things for a man to have to negotiate life. Sure there are unwanted side effects but it's the same with femininity encouraging illogical, irrational and vindictive behaviour towards each other and men.
@Usernamej58 I agree it's toxic behavior not masculinity
I understand your point of view. I assume you are saying that masculine men are "better" than effeminate men. I'm not sure what you mean by "better" though. Are you implying that they are "better" at communication? Making money? More compassionate and caring? I'm trying to live a meditative and mindful lifestyle. I'm neither masculine nor effeminate. Are you willing to say those masculine men are "better" at inner peace?
I don't really get how you come to these conclusions? I don't even know how you really judge masculinity or define it. But you are entitled to your opinion
You've identified the immediate flaw in this argument. Now simply discard it as nonsense.
@Whtevernever?
I'm agreeing with you.
Masculinity in men is good but what defines masculinity is very rigid today.
Masculinity can be about writing poetry and enjoying art, showing friendly affection to male friends and putting time and effort in how you look
The sociopathic dumb jock stereotype is a very modern definition of what masculinity is.
Barely a couple of good points and the rest is complete mediocre toxic crap and cringe..
Write better then
Maybe I should
I wish there was a dislike button on these but, I guess not...
Man up🤣
Its called "I don't agree with what you said"
Kidding gosh
It wasn't mean as too serious, either.
@WowwGirl shut up and make me a sandwich xD
@__inkRat move out of the basement
@WowwGirl funny I do not live in basement, but in apartment of my own, in capitals center.
@__inkRat I have a scooter and a place
Hard to read such a bunch of crap, I have difficulty understanding If a single of my gender agree on these words
It must be great to have incredibly higher standards for the person you are dating than you have for yourself.
You've described the problem in today's dating world. People want the top, but aren't one themselves. I think any person who has put the work is right to have high expectations. Like myself for example: I have worked hard on my body for years and always get compliments on how I've built it. I refuse to date fat girls and I believe I have the right to have that standard. Because I myself have lived up to it
@TruthBringer yep I did a long write up on this earlier. The only person you are entitled to is someone who is a reflection of yourself. 7s deserve 7s. 8s for 8s. So forth. It’s not all about looks but a total sum of looks, plus personality, social status, etc.
But I got a feeling @WowwGirl has some very problematic princess syndrome going on. While I believe everybody has alpha vs beta moments (and some people are more driven than others) just oversimplifying everyone to a stupid ass label is a sign of low intelligence and/or entitlement.
If she manages to “date up” as she feels entitled to then the so called “alpha” will just use for what he needs and quickly kick her to the curb.
Quit the stupid standards and expectations @WowwGirl. It’s ultimately going to make you extremely miserable in life and you will miss out on so many opportunities for real meaningful relationships.
You know the REAL reason I say this? Because once upon a time I felt entitled to a perfect woman too. As it turns out she doesn’t exist. Only the RIGHT woman exists. And right is rarely if ever perfect. But it’s still the write answer.
*right answer
@guesswhoseback It's always nice seeing your perspectives on these topics. I only support her idea that men should strive to become masculine and not little sissy's society is trying to make men these days (wearing dresses all of a sudden...). Se may suffer from little princess syndrome indeed and that's a problem that will bit her later on if it isn't already. Could be a reason why she is still single at her age. Or maybe that's her own choice. I don't know. What I do like about her is that she doesn't beat around the bush and is straight forward with what she likes. A quality many women lack. Which is honesty and being genuine in their answers. An example I can give is her Take on why bad boys are attractive. While so many women say they want nice guys, but end up with 'bad boys'. She on the other hand doesn't play that game as far as I've seen.
And I agree 100% on people needing to date their own match. I've seen landwhales who think they are entitled to ripped guys. Or lazy and overweight guys of my age who refuse to date a chubby girl because they want that hot instagram model looking girl.
Looking forward in seeing more of your wisdom on this website, brother
@TruthBringer thanks man. I’m by no means letting men off the hook. I also got to realize than my mindset is sometimes different than other guys.
Truth is I know I’m a bit more sensitive than the average guy and it’s something I hated about myself growing up (but I know accept it). But that didn’t stop from doing very masculine things like becoming a fighter, starting my own business, going on adventures, approaching attractive women or calling out bullshit when I hit a breaking point.
I do have a long fuse but it’s still a fuse. Once I know someone for certain someone is full of shit (like Arabella) I draw the line. When she spit on my peace offering earlier I now know she’s a complete sociopath. It negates any point she tried to make earlier.
But getting back to becoming a “real man”. A real man to me is someone who is 100% independent, take responsibility for his actions and makes amends when necessary, stands up for himself, respects people but won’t tolerate disrespect and doesn’t throw people under the bus to make himself look better. That is a “alpha” to me.
But those qualities I mentioned above can not always be quickly determined. For example one guy might just choose to ignore a loud obnoxious drunk at the bar. He knows he’s intoxicated and it just not worth the trouble (unless the drunk is getting physical). The other guy will quickly start a fight with the drunk for the hell of it just to look cool.
People like @WowwGirl will automatically consider the latter guy an “alpha” and the former guy a “beta” given her very superficial judgment. Never mind the fact bystanders got hurt (maybe badly), damage was done, charges were filed, etc.
@guesswhoseback You are absolutely correct, once again! And as an Officer, I'm not allowed to be the latter guy who just uses his fist immediately. As much I like to put my fist in his face, I got a good amount of selfcontrol. No need to escalate things. And if I was impulsive like the former, they wouldn't have allowed me to become an Officer. So someone who is impulsive, gets mad and/or physical easily is anything but "alpha"
@TruthBringer most women fail to understand that. Not all but most.
Wowgirl does fine no worries
„A woman prefers a more masculine man when she is fertile and looking for a fling rather than a mate for life, according to a new study. The finding suggests the value that women place on masculinity changes with context and with women's reproductive cycles and immediate goals.“
the ovulatory shift hypothesis is common sense since a few years. Not just since a new study but the rest is true.
@wowwgirlSpitting facts once again.
I'm quite surprised that there is no sight of the ladies who claim to love feminine and sensitive guys. Did you scare them off, Wowwgirl?
No I'm sure there are a lot of us and we just dont just a fuck
@nerdybutlazy Yes there are a lot of 'you'. And most are ingenuine who say they want a nice and sensitive guy, but end up with some 'bad boy'. That's why I always take your words with a grain of salt.
You're great sir @TruthBringer
@WowwGirl So are you, mis :)
Thank you 😃
@truthbringe this is real life not some wattpad love story the archtype of the bad boy makes no sense, he's fun to daydream about but not date or marry. I think most women know that but again go off Idrc
@nerdybutlazy That's the thing. They want to fuck the bad boy, not marry him. Often, they get impregnated and give birth to the children of the bad boy and have some 'nice guy'raise these children with them. Often these women aren't even happy being with the men they marry since they settled for someone they don't even want.
If I have to choose between being the bad boy that women desire and the nice guy who settles for scraps, trust me, it's an easy choice for me.
What man is disgusted that a girl's butt jiggles when she walks? Most think the opposite...
Um no straight man ever would be disgusted lol
@Solstice777 Exactly. I'm more self conscious if my butt doesn't jiggle when I walk...
A lot of talk about butts on this post lol
Dont you have anything else other than your butt to offer?
@homystew Duh
I've noticed that too. I love smacking my girl's jiggly booty as she walks
This girl gets it lol.
Boys if you ever want to be a REAL MAN like us you gotta start commiting arson. Not only will the fire tan your body but you'll also start to care less about what others think of you.
I believe a balance is more important. Yes I like a masculine men but not to a point its like dating a caveman.
also why do you seem to always write these my takes on how men and women should be all the time? It almost feels like you had a really bad experience which has jaded your perception.
Well here you’re more focused on “how “ the men look and its apparent in the pics u chose , things listed above tbh are stupid, men are men and women are women , u can't gender~ise a set of virtue and call that masculinity and another set of virtues and call that femininity
A very smart comment in the sea of division that posts like these turn into
@RemoErdosain thank you!
Anytime :)
Yes, masculine men and feminine women are better.
Water is wet, grass is green.
100% agree
Not all grass is green :)
@loveslongnails the good kind is🙂
Aren't there yellow types too?
Amazingly, grasses come in many colors of the spectrum, from yellows to pinks to crimsons. Green is obviously the most common. Water by definition is wet (most of the time - uh oh, there's times that its not), but grass can be many different colors!
@loveslongnails 🙂
When I think of wet, my first thought isn't water either. :-D
@loveslongnails haa 🤣
I've seen a lot of nonsense of this site but this is incomparably nonsensical.
🤣🤣🤣
I thought the same. Lol
@Whtevernever thank you I try
Try harder, do better.