There was a time when men would be bound to support, protect, and love women. Allowing women to focus on their role in life rather than worry about security financial, or physical. Thanks to the effective abolition of the bonds of marriage by way of unilateral abandonment and pointless redefinition women now have to do everything for themselfs including being prepared to face the world alone.
Like it or not the world is a dangerous place, men are not immune to this danger just more resilient and resistance, Resistance that cost us years of our life, like armor costs a take speed. Resistance that makes us poorly suited to the vital task of child birthing, among many other concerns and even make some of us dangerous.
But theses traits exist for a reason because in the world of nature they are needed and still serve women today whether they are given said support via a personal husband or lackluster state substitute.
Neither men nor women know what it's like to be in the other's shoes, but we live in a society today that focusses almost entirely on women's issues and teaches them from the time they are little girls to believe they are oppressed victims and men are privileged oppressors, which is harmful to both men and women for different reasons. Some women are honest enough to see though that narrative. This MyTake is a clear example of someone who doesn't have that honesty. Your last sentence is proof you have no clue what issues men face.
I do know of issues that men face, because some of those issues effect society as a whole. Men are two times more likely to die from suicide. Men are taught that expressing any emotion other than anger makes them weaker and less masculine. Men are taught that their value is based off of how much money they make. Boys are taught that "real men" don't cry. Boys are taught to repress their emotions instead of being taught the skills to be able to process and deal with those emotions in a healthy way. Men are less likely to ask for help because society tells them that if they need help they are weak, which is why men are less likely to seek mental and medical assistance. Men are more likely to be injured or killed in their line of work. The family court screws men over on a regular basis, even though that men make up the majority of government officials. All of that is wrong and should be changed but the thing is, is that the struggles that women face are different than those that men face it doesn't make them any less valid.
"Meanwhile the men are feeling used if they're not rewarded for buying drinks we didn't ask for, but still not concerned that we have to cover them."
Those are your words, which seem incongruent with what you just wrote.
Much of your MyTake was phrased in a way that indicated you believe women have it worse than men. Were you not conscious of that when you wrote it? If you want men to support women and understand your challenges, try not using such pejorative language. It always amuses me when women use such language and then complain about how men react. It's not rocket science. It just takes a little honesty.
Men are not offended by smart women. At all. Men are put off by women with certain attitudes and women who don't know how to treat man well. That has nothing to do with their IQ and everything to do with their personality and attitudes. I don't know why some women have such a difficult time with that concept.
There are plenty of other issue men and boys face that you didn't list, by the way.
No I didn’t list all of them, there are too many too list, but I have many many men who have become aggressive or think that they are entitled to someone’s body because they bought them a drink. He feels like he’s being taken advantage of and she’s worried about being drugged and raped.. the issue effects both people in different ways. You don’t have to agree with my perspective, its difficult to see from someone else’s point of view.
A man who buys you a drink may be HOPING for some sugar, but few expect it. Now, it's another thing when the girl accepts multiple drinks and appetizers, and invites her friend (s) to partake as well. I've known women who go out on dates every Friday and Saturday night and don't even bring money - they go fully intending to lead on some guy and take him for a bunch of money - and I've also seen girls do the same thing but she goes home with the guy at the end of the night.
The point is, guys buy girls (that they don't know) things for one reason and one reason only, so if you accept those things, you need to know that they come with expectations. One drink only obligates you to a couple of minutes of conversation, but if you accept anything more, then you are tacitly agreeing to move. That should be understood.
Wow this is the most sexist post I have seen in an extremely long time. You completely devalued man as an entire being. This post is a clear representation as to what is wrong with this world. You act like men have absolutely no moral compass or emotions past the tip of their nose. You could never understand half of what a man has to deal with because you are stuck on the biological aspects a women has to deal with. You get rid of your period or pregnancy and look at it without your blinders on and maybe just for a second you would realize how insane you sound right now
When girls say "Men have it easier" is just so... i don't even wanna start listing and explaining all the things to her that boys and men have to through, basically from preschool...
Because even if i did, they would downplay it and not really care or understand it.
Very nice discussion. I see the men's rights activists and anti-feminists are already here :)
I would also add that women constantly have to add disclaimers (Not all men) and can never be emotional otherwise she's "Just on her period" and guys don't take us seriously.
If we make one mistake in the presentation all of our hard work to try and educate about an issue goes out the window, that's been my experience.
If you want to be taken seriously be as such. Don't expect to be taken seriously when you bitch and complain. When I say you I'm not referring to you specifically but to women as a whole.
I see the point of this post and bringing up the biological stuff is being commented on as Whiney and blaming society/creating a mindset of victim hood, yet the flip side she isn’t complaining she is saying all the weight women hold on their shoulders since puberty, it could have been expressed in a a better way where she takes into account the people that won’t read into it enough. There is nothing more damaging to a women that being sexually assaulted and it’s to common in our society, a women can’t even walk alone across in a parking lot at night without being hyper aware of her environment, but a man can this is a simple example of how we go through our daily life with a set of different safety precautions. Although men do have their struggles too sexual assault isn’t as common, so the understanding of all the small measures we take through out our lives to prevent this happening to us is hard for them to grasp.
You act like men don't have a care in the world when they're out and about despite being four times the majority victims of most violent crimes. Male victims of homicide in 2020: 14,000+. Female victims of homicide in 2020: 3000+. In states where carrying firearms is legal, men tend to do so. Women worry about being raped. Men worry about being killed.
So? Does that mean men can't be victims of other mens' wrongdoings? They are still victims.
If a man and woman are walking along and come into conflict with someone bearing firearms, if you had to place a bet on which is most likely to end up the victim of at least a gunshot wound/at most of murder, which would it be? Whoever is seen as the greater adversary, which nine times out of ten will be the guy. At least she has a chance to fight off/escape her rapist/sex trafficker, if those are even the perpetrator's motives. At the very least she'll be kept alive longer and have way more chances to overcome the situation than he had, especially if he's dead.
Yet, 90 percent of this could be avoided if everyone just obeyed their heavenly father and listened to his advice. No unwanted pregnancy, no immodest dress, no violent spouses, no worrying about covering your drinks, no worry about not getting what you want because you are too focused on giving to others and they do the same for you. As for the rest of pregnancy and menopause, as well as cramps, we all have our first parent Eve to thank for that. Lactation should not really be a complaint in my opinion, but if you don't want to lactate or be told to take responsibility for the life of a baby you didn't want, don't put yourself in a situation to allow it to happen. It is totally possible.
Notice I did not blame one side or the other. God's laws are for both genders. Man should treat women as sisters and mothers. Women should have the same respect for the man. If we stop worrying about me me me, and instead consider the best interest of others, many of these things would be corrected. God is always the same and never changes. That is why when we listen to him, we know the direction that is best to take for every situation. But when we decide to rely on our own understanding in opposition to God, we always suffer. Women and men are assaulted and raped for selfish reasons. Both sides share responsibility. The man who rapes has given in to selfish desire and does not consider his fellow woman's best interest. Instead of changing his ways in harmony with God's law, he chooses his own path.
Likewise the woman, knowing that man is greatly affected by what he sees with his eyes, makes every effort to be modest and humble. The true beauty of both is what lies in the heart of a person, not what you think you should be able to get away with wearing out in public.
Of course there are many other examples. But this one stays on topic. Mock it if you like, it matters not to me. But don't throw blame all on one gender if there is some sacrifice you could have made to prevent the wrongdoing.
@nycres where in the law of God does it say anything about being an altar boy? Really the whole practice of it is a tradition. I speak of following the letter of the law and the principle behind it. Not going beyond what is written. Children are to be obedient to their parents, not someone who wrongly calls themselves rabbi or father. The one who does call himself this already breaks the law. Also by knowing he has a wrong desire and lack of good sense to handle it, he further misses the principle of the law and still bases his decision on his selfish desire.
@ subarugirl, which part of this all is funny? Your response shows a spirit of the world and its so called wisdom. But the righteous one considers the things pertaining to righteousness, while the world considers it foolishness.
Omg, totally agree. I'm so sick of complaining about sexism and then guys telling me I have it easy because I'm a girl. Like, hello? Like tbh the moment I complain about it here, I bet you there'll be some guy who responds saying "wtf but what about ME. I'm so nice to girls but they dont like me!!" I'm so done with "nice guys" and sexists that I've turned lesbian <3 (jk I'm pan)
It's almost like guys simply don't hear you when you talk about sexism. You can shout and scream and quote peer-reviewed research and they'll just talk with their dicks and tell you to grow up.
When mens' rights guys talk about things being too sensitive really they're just saying "I got reprimanded for degrading someone because I found it funny and for some reason, no one else thought my demeaning talk was funny!"
@tyleeandpink There's one of those words that is completely misconstrued. We don't hate women. We prefer to be without them. Remember men don't need women. But women need men. They can't fend for themselves. And they abuse the welfare system provided by the state. Which is guess what, mainly composed of men. So women saying they don't need men is a complete fucken joke.
@YesIWouldLikeFries on that sense everyone needs everyone. We all live in society. If you don't want to get into a relationship fine. More power to you. Difference is to you is a "want". In the time of our grandparents to women was almost imposed. Today, like us, they get to chose.
You know whats to much? Is women who claim equality which really means "authority" equally to men so they dont have to listen to men anymore through the use of sorcery (WITCHRAFT) And that is an abomination to GOD. This is common place of female communion here on gag.
@YesIWouldLikeFries You're a joke. Scientists have found a way for women to impregnate themselves using their own bone marrow. I'd like to see men do the same. And feminists don't hate men, either. Just the stupid ones like you.
People of the world can contribute to a DRASTIC change if we focus on the "whys" and not only "whats". Everyone has feelings that we should respect. Goes both ways. Concerning those people that respect others feelings without expecting anything in return, those people are special and sadly, rare.
You wahmen are the joke. Do you know why on line dating was really created?
I'll tell you. It was to expose what you wahmen are really like. And it worked brilliantly. We always suspected you were sluts. Now we know for sure. You lose.
by the way blocking me isn't going to stop me from replying.
@tyleeandpink "No one deserves to have their problems ignored or downplayed. Not men, not women, and not any other demographic."
Then why is it that feminists have fucked up the ability to have a nuclear family?
They just want want want, take take take and if that wasn't bad enough they don't want to take responsibility for their actions.
They get pregnant on purpose just so they can live off welfare. Which guess what? It comes from taxes we pay. The majority from men. Women don't need men? I think not. Without us you'd have nothing. You'd be nothing. You're nothing but leeches.
@FriesPlz no one gets pregnant to live in poverty on purpose hon… if I wanted quick and easy money, I wouldn’t chose to be pregnant for 9 months, push a baby the size of a melon out of my vagina destroying my body, just to make the lifetime commitment of raising a human being and a parent for the rest of my life….
@FriesPlz 1. Why online dating proved what women really are? 2. Whoever made online dating made it for the money. Don't listen to conspiracy theories. 3. They didn't make it impossible to have a nuclear family. I am married to a feminist and I have a nuclear family. So what's your excuse? 4. Actually today women make most of the workforce.
What I have a problem with is when a man isn't interested in a woman and she makes false allegations against him to try and get his assets and resources which she has no right to. Not for any reason. She is not entitled to anything from him. No matter how much she wants it. Wahmen need to stop trying to use men as resources. YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE ANY ACCESS TO OUR ATTENTION TIME AND RESOURCES. FUCK OFF. Can't make it any clearer than that.
Wahmen want to a meal work to earn money and buy it yourself. Same goes for anything you want to buy. Men are done being your ATM. You are cut off.
And if you think you can find a "good man" you won't be able to. Us older men are teaching the younger men and boys not to get involved with women at all. We are going to cut you off completely. The only men they that'll be left over are the simps and soyboys.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "So they clearly are getting their own resources. Not ours."
Not entirely. The buildings, infrastructure, etc were built by men.
What should happen is women should construct buildings themselves. Create their own infrastructure including electricity, gas, water, roads, etc. Without help from men at all. Once they've done that then we'll talk. Because the buildings, infrastructure, etc are our resources not theirs.
Women don't make up the majority of the workforce. Look at how many single mothers there are. Leeches.
Just look at any womens' dating profile. All of them have a list of demands. None of them write what they can offer a man. I've even seen pregnant women on there asking for a beta and they're still with the baby daddy. How fucked is that? They write their accomplishments. We don't care about womens' accomplishments.
"2. Whoever made online dating made it for the money. Don't listen to conspiracy theories."
Yes but its also to expose wahmen. Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a conspiracy fact.
"3. They didn't make it impossible to have a nuclear family. I am married to a feminist and I have a nuclear family. So what's your excuse?"
I have no need to get married and have a family. No excuse needed.
"4. Actually today women make most of the workforce."
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 We don't fear them. Not at all. We prefer to live without them. They need to butt out of our lives and go be independent as they claim #MGTOW
@friesandsauce We’d love to do that work but unfortunately, some people like to keep women OUT of that. How is a single mother a leech? She’s single. She has no one to leech off of. If you’re so passionate about this, get off the site.
@friesandsauce You wanna squeeze a baby out of your…? Okay I guess, good luck then. But how would women be obsolete if women can already get pregnant without men using their bone marrow? By that definition we’re all obsolete, you included.
@friesandsauce If work counts as a resource then we are the ones leeching of them. Who does most of the house work? Who cooks most of the food? Who are most teachers? Nurses? Good luck for us doing any work without their work. Everyone is needed for society to function.
Facts don't care about your feelings. Women today are the majority of the workforce. You know that single mothers must have jobs to support their children right? Child support is not enough to make a living. Is barely enough to pay basic bills.
1. I have been on tinder and many girls did had things they would offer. Others had demands. Some had both. Who cares?
2. You seem to be confusing a few women with most. Yes the woman you described is awful, but she is a rarity. Just like a man asking for a 18 year old virgin to fuck while is wife taking care of his kids at home. There are men like that. Only rare. Let's not confuse shitty people with most people.
3. The very idea that the goal was that is insane. Literally only someone like you would expect something like that.
@friesandsauce anyone, men or women, can live their lifes perpetually single. That is not hard to do. Just don't get in a relationship ever. If that is what you want fine. Do it and be happy. But to think that's the path that will make every men happy... That's another story.
She's leeching off the government which is majority composed of men. Also the welfare that she's on comes from tax dollars which is mostly taken from mens' wages. How are you this dumb?
Get off this site? Why because you can't handle the harsh truth? Go cry to your equally vapid friends.
Artificial wombs. We'll put our seed into them and the cells will divide and grow without the the need for a woman.
Those scientists that can use bone marrow are majority men. So nice try but without men you're helpless. Once again men are the ones that have invented something. When women can build their own society from scratch then we'll talk. Make your own tools. Build your own buildings, infrastructure, etc. Stop using what men have invented, created and maintain. You are not entitled to it.
Women are kept out because you are a distraction and you'd try to impose your bullshit into a project. Furthermore you lack the logic necessary because you don't make decisions based on logic. You use emotion. There is no need for emotions on a work site.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I am living my life perpetually single. I ignore most of society because its a sespool of bullshit. What I have a problem with is woke culture infesting every facet of society. An example. Before Doom Eternal was released the SJWs got offended because the demons weren't referred to with respect. They wanted them to be referred to as mortally challenged. I know right. How stupid is that? Getting upset over completely made up beings. They hoped it would hurt the sales of the game. It did the opposite. It created free advertising for id/Bethesda. They even incorporated it into the game. With the holograms mentioning that they don't like being referred to as demons. But as mortally challenged lol.
Those kind of people need to step back and take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. Because they are the kind of people that will complain about anything and everything.
Statistics are bullshit. They don't prove anything. They have no basis in reality. They are synthetic sources of info. Not real world practical info. They don't take into account all the people that don't participate in society. As in they don't give useful info about themselves. And some of those people live off the grid completely.
@jellybeanyoghurt According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics women make most of the workforce today. Not by a lot, still they are far from leeching society as you say.
An artificial womb is further away than parthenogenesis is. No really during a study on Parkinson's disease by changing the embryos it was discovered that it was possible to make a sperm like liquid using cells from the mother. The baby would always be a clone of her, still it can be done. It's far from reliable, is still being studied and even when they figure it out I don't believe they will do it.
You want to live a pertetual single life is your choice. If it makes you happy go for it that's what you should go for. Censorship in games is stupid. They wanted to do the same in DMC due to the girls having a naked scene. You don't see any of their private parts, but still they tried to censor it. I don't agree with that at all. But what does this have to do with the topic?
We created 99% of society? 1. Then we also made 99% of what's wrong with it which is a lot! 2. Don't fool yourself without women's role supporting us we would never have made it. Try to build whitout having someone making you food and taking care of your kids and you when you get home. This is past of course, today like I said they work as much as us.
Statistics are bullshit? Or you just don't like facts? Even making up excuses like "don't consider those who don't take part in society". Everyone is part of society. Even homeless people are.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics women make most of the workforce today. Not by a lot, still they are far from leeching society as you say.
We created 99% of society? 1. Then we also made 99% of what's wrong with it which is a lot! 2. Don't fool yourself without women's role supporting us we would never have made it. Try to build whitout having someone making you food and taking care of your kids and you when you get home. This is past of course, today like I said they work as much as us.
Statistics are bullshit? Or you just don't like facts? Even making up excuses like "don't consider those who don't take part in society". Everyone is part of society. Even homeless people are."
Statistics are synthetic. They aren't based on anything real. Just a bunch of numbers on paper that somehow "prove" something. They don't.
Everyone is a part of society in that they exist in it yes. But not everyone contributes equally. That is what disappoints me. You have the ruling elite at the top, the government puppets and then us. Yet people are so concerned with their petty trivial bullshit instead of focusing on important issues like how to take away the ruling elite's power and take it back to we the people. Until that happens nothing we do matters.
@jellybeanyoghurt actually statistics do represent reality. It's their hole point.
Yes society has a hierarchy so what? I don't make as much money as my boss and I can promise you I am happier than he is. Like you said, don't worry about trivial stuff.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 actually statistics do represent reality. It's their hole point.
Yes society has a hierarchy so what? I don't make as much money as my boss and I can promise you I am happier than he is. Like you said, don't worry about trivial stuff."
The entirety of working and earning money is trivial. Yet no one seems to care that we are slaves and money is our chain.
@jellybeanyoghurt Literally you’re the one who said statistics were worthless. To quote, “ Men created 99% of society as we know it.” Then, immediately after, “Statistics are bullsh*t.” You’re contradicting yourself.
Omg is that real , I was thinking of that this situation only belongs to some specific countries or cultures etc. , sounds really interesting. Maybe it is like this around the world I dunno. I am certainly surpsired but we are all equal we are all human beings. These kind of things make the both gender keeping away from each other so what we are taught is mostly really wrong , I hope we will not be like that in the future and teach our children what is correct in which condition what we have to do and what we really need to behave people regardless of their gender respectfully.
I have not been a woman, but I feel like both sexes have their inherent biological advantages and disadvantages. Women's advantage is nature, or the natural attraction that men feel for them from an early age. They really dont have to do anything to be wanted in society. Men's advantage is time. While women's attraction is transient and diminishes rapidly after a certain age (mostly by 30), men's attraction is based on what he can do in life and make with his hands and mind. A biologist has put it very well, "men play to win, women play not to lose."
Why do you shave you body hair, is it really for us or because you want it off? Why do you want to get thin, is it for us or your own ego? Calm down about what specifically? Female teachers give harsher grades and punishments to boys. At work women have an advantage because female voices are trusted more. Why do you think Alexa and Siri are not Alexander and Sirius. As for violence yes it is wrong. I am not certain on an overall level though whether you have it harder than us. Suicide rates suggest otherwise.
@Jackblue Women at work have it easier and they get away with more. Why? Because the men in charge (management types) are weak ass fucks that have no back bone.
Yeah it all seems that the grass is greener on other side.
If you think from what they call vagainaCentric it does look bad
Nobody can change the natural occirings and men can't be told that they are the cause for it lol
And for one orgasam of men lol like women donot crave sex at all you all do it only for men you guys are so sacrificial thank you i understand you donot het the pleasure of sex you just do favours for men.
Bc it's a true fact that no isn't a really no they want to be persuaded in most cases make all the women ti be really clear about it.
Then possibly the guys will take no as no it's made as a behavioural thing and lots of observation bc then the women start playing with minds of men.
Lol donot accept drinks from strangers simple 😸 .
They will come to know how you are repulsed by them.
These things which you say that men expect things just bc guys buy you drink nope but observation says this was made to be seen like that.
It has stemmed out of women earlier days who used their bodies like that in order to be courteous or like returning the favour now it looks like norm and also it's not only men women are expecting sex on first date or will think the guy isn't man enough or doesn't have confidence
Look we get it, life is hard. Just so you know men don't have it easier either. Life really sucks, and the only way that we can get through this is together. Even a guy like me who is all against relationships and is relationship-free, I have to admit that every woman deserves a man that treats her right, protects her, makes her feel safe and takes care of her and her problems, likewise every man deserves a woman that makes him feel loved. I hope that every person actually finds a partner that makes him/her feel special, and makes life less miserable.
Although I don't need that crap, cause I'm relationship free. I walk this path alone. Feels good man.
Half of those things are just your biology, don't blame society.
No doesn't always mean no, do you understand social cues at all?
How about stop recirocating if you'll give nothing in return?
Bodily autonomy, you mean your "right" to kill a baby?
You guys want equal rights but don't want the consequences that go along with it. If a smaller and weaker man mouths off he can expect to be hit. Why should women be different?
Society tells me to act in opposite ways too, women act like this is unique to them for some reason. People always complain that I either smile too much or too little, idfk how to appease them.
Hi, i agree with you… as a woman. I think some of these things are still issues, but it has gone too far. Society immediately programs us to dislike white men. If they are successful, it is because they are “privileged “. Like my father. He grew up dirt poor, literally only a few hundred dollars from homeless. He scrabbled and scraped, working several crappy jobs, being resourceful to get to upper middle class. He has had a hard life, but people automatically assume that he was born rich, and never had to work a day of his life… just because of his race and gender. It’s beginning to edge on racist and sexist against men.
You are allowed to be violent towards men with zero repercussion. Actually, any retribution, even minor will elicit protection by those around you.
We don't hear "girls will be girls" we hear "what did you do wrong?"
Imagine being shamed for rejecting a girl twice your size (I wasn't even sure she was interested in me), while the class is shamed for using association with her as a cudgel against me (but not me against her) when I was beaten daily including by some of my female colleagues. (one which stole my first kiss after dropping me head first in the ground, among other things.)
Also, literally everybody, even the teachers knew I wanted to be a fucking priest at the time, a scientist priest, like mendel. (protestant mom didn't liked it.)
I’m sorry that you had to experience that but I don’t see how that is relevant in this context. Men have a plethora of their own issues that they experience. You should totally write a my take about it, I’d be interested in reading it.
I'm not sorry. As bad as it was, it had it's function.
I vented enough, the lessons are way more important than any venting. The point here is perspective.
Life is not a power struggle, the universe is a setting that cares not about how we feel, how much we cry, kings and queens who were literally reared to manipulate and use emotion got their heads on silver plates exactly for those reasons. I'm not about to follow in their footsteps.
My story is not a singular one, let that serve as a lesson that if your story ever works, it demonstrably works exactly because the opposite of what you imply is true and it's common knowledge. Like an open lie.
I'm sorry men have given you a poor experience so far. As you can see, you are not alone in this.
I am not perfect by any means. One thing I've learned to do to manage my sexual urges in a healthy way is post polls on here with questions I'd love to ask women but for obvious reasons never would irl.
That way, when I meet a woman as interesting as you seem to be, nothing gets in the way of treating her with the respect she's entitled to. And that in turn makes her want to meet me again.
I'm never amazed at the amount of misogyny on GAG. It looks like 95% of "penised" individuals on here are bored easily triggered man-children fully capable of reading, yet 100% incapable of learning. They can't even take a real honest moment and contemplate what you shared, because they maniacally and psychopathically enjoy putting women down rather than understand other's lives.
But if we look at it objectively & consider the price of a surrogate pregnancy then carrying a baby is worth way less than the 18 years of child support a guy would have to pay to a broke woman to take care of his kid. If you opt out of getting any child support (from the dad or the government) I'll give you a thumbs up for doing the 1 biological job that nature gave you & that all of your female ancestors did.
You can give me the thumbs up anyway. ☺ I actually loved being pregnant and I feel so privileged to have felt all those kicks and yoga moves my babies were doing. The same with breastfeeding. There was a special bond that is priceless.
@hahahmm But the man still chose to have sex with the broke woman who is struggling to raise his child for those 18 years. Dropping seed (which is all reward for him in that moment, and he most likely forgets it happened shortly after) has zero value to her. It all goes to his kid. Where does the mans struggle come outside of having to pay child support? I disagree in your personal value of child support, also, in some cases it’s all the chosen contact the kid has of their father. I’ve known a great number of men who fight with everything to see their children after a stupid choice. Keep your thumb signals. You miss the point entirely.
@Subarugirl Oh, I didn't complain about "paying child support"... I showed you two how math works. Unlike feelings it's easily measurable. Probably why when you buy diapers & baby food you pay with money instead of feelings.
@hahahmm The only thing you showed me is how little compassion you have for children made from mistakes half caused by a man. And further insult the woman he too chose to sleep with. Blaming for all when the man is half a cause is not a good light to shine on yourself. Thank goodness those children have child support legally awarded to them.
jesus christ. why do you immediately perceive someone voicing their opinions about being disadvantaged as trying to be “more special than anyone else”? your ego is that easily threatened? by problems that literally have nothing to do with you personally? interesting.
@ie_amour Oh look. Another feminist spouting about how western women are some oppressed, mistreated class. Bad old men oppressing all of these holy creatures known as "woman".
She went to university so they could tell her how oppressed she is and how "evil" men are.
I’m not a feminist, and I am speaking from personal experience. I understand that you have a different perspective, but I’d be willing to bet that most women here can relate to at least one, if not everything that I talked about. If what I’ve experienced is upsetting to you maybe think about why it makes you upset instead of trying to attack me.
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There was a time when men would be bound to support, protect, and love women. Allowing women to focus on their role in life rather than worry about security financial, or physical.
Thanks to the effective abolition of the bonds of marriage by way of unilateral abandonment and pointless redefinition women now have to do everything for themselfs including being prepared to face the world alone.
Like it or not the world is a dangerous place, men are not immune to this danger just more resilient and resistance, Resistance that cost us years of our life, like armor costs a take speed. Resistance that makes us poorly suited to the vital task of child birthing, among many other concerns and even make some of us dangerous.
But theses traits exist for a reason because in the world of nature they are needed and still serve women today whether they are given said support via a personal husband or lackluster state substitute.
Neither men nor women know what it's like to be in the other's shoes, but we live in a society today that focusses almost entirely on women's issues and teaches them from the time they are little girls to believe they are oppressed victims and men are privileged oppressors, which is harmful to both men and women for different reasons. Some women are honest enough to see though that narrative. This MyTake is a clear example of someone who doesn't have that honesty. Your last sentence is proof you have no clue what issues men face.
I do know of issues that men face, because some of those issues effect society as a whole. Men are two times more likely to die from suicide. Men are taught that expressing any emotion other than anger makes them weaker and less masculine. Men are taught that their value is based off of how much money they make. Boys are taught that "real men" don't cry. Boys are taught to repress their emotions instead of being taught the skills to be able to process and deal with those emotions in a healthy way. Men are less likely to ask for help because society tells them that if they need help they are weak, which is why men are less likely to seek mental and medical assistance. Men are more likely to be injured or killed in their line of work. The family court screws men over on a regular basis, even though that men make up the majority of government officials. All of that is wrong and should be changed but the thing is, is that the struggles that women face are different than those that men face it doesn't make them any less valid.
"Meanwhile the men are feeling used if they're not rewarded for buying drinks we didn't ask for, but still not concerned that we have to cover them."
Those are your words, which seem incongruent with what you just wrote.
Much of your MyTake was phrased in a way that indicated you believe women have it worse than men. Were you not conscious of that when you wrote it? If you want men to support women and understand your challenges, try not using such pejorative language. It always amuses me when women use such language and then complain about how men react. It's not rocket science. It just takes a little honesty.
Men are not offended by smart women. At all. Men are put off by women with certain attitudes and women who don't know how to treat man well. That has nothing to do with their IQ and everything to do with their personality and attitudes. I don't know why some women have such a difficult time with that concept.
There are plenty of other issue men and boys face that you didn't list, by the way.
No I didn’t list all of them, there are too many too list, but I have many many men who have become aggressive or think that they are entitled to someone’s body because they bought them a drink. He feels like he’s being taken advantage of and she’s worried about being drugged and raped.. the issue effects both people in different ways. You don’t have to agree with my perspective, its difficult to see from someone else’s point of view.
I don't disagree with your perspective, only your language. Hopefully you understand what I'm saying.
I do
A man who buys you a drink may be HOPING for some sugar, but few expect it. Now, it's another thing when the girl accepts multiple drinks and appetizers, and invites her friend (s) to partake as well. I've known women who go out on dates every Friday and Saturday night and don't even bring money - they go fully intending to lead on some guy and take him for a bunch of money - and I've also seen girls do the same thing but she goes home with the guy at the end of the night.
The point is, guys buy girls (that they don't know) things for one reason and one reason only, so if you accept those things, you need to know that they come with expectations. One drink only obligates you to a couple of minutes of conversation, but if you accept anything more, then you are tacitly agreeing to move. That should be understood.
Wow this is the most sexist post I have seen in an extremely long time. You completely devalued man as an entire being. This post is a clear representation as to what is wrong with this world. You act like men have absolutely no moral compass or emotions past the tip of their nose. You could never understand half of what a man has to deal with because you are stuck on the biological aspects a women has to deal with. You get rid of your period or pregnancy and look at it without your blinders on and maybe just for a second you would realize how insane you sound right now
When girls say "Men have it easier" is just so... i don't even wanna start listing and explaining all the things to her that boys and men have to through, basically from preschool...
Because even if i did, they would downplay it and not really care or understand it.
Very nice discussion. I see the men's rights activists and anti-feminists are already here :)
I would also add that women constantly have to add disclaimers (Not all men) and can never be emotional otherwise she's "Just on her period" and guys don't take us seriously.
If we make one mistake in the presentation all of our hard work to try and educate about an issue goes out the window, that's been my experience.
Its okay to hate your self.
@ManHater I don't hate myself :)
@Ericalovescats just a generic question so you are saying women are not emotional on periods or don't act differently at all during periods?
So they as just crazy on there own 😆😸?
@ericalovescats "guys don't take us seriously"
If you want to be taken seriously be as such. Don't expect to be taken seriously when you bitch and complain. When I say you I'm not referring to you specifically but to women as a whole.
@ericalovescats what hard work?
I see the point of this post and bringing up the biological stuff is being commented on as Whiney and blaming society/creating a mindset of victim hood, yet the flip side she isn’t complaining she is saying all the weight women hold on their shoulders since puberty, it could have been expressed in a a better way where she takes into account the people that won’t read into it enough. There is nothing more damaging to a women that being sexually assaulted and it’s to common in our society, a women can’t even walk alone across in a parking lot at night without being hyper aware of her environment, but a man can this is a simple example of how we go through our daily life with a set of different safety precautions. Although men do have their struggles too sexual assault isn’t as common, so the understanding of all the small measures we take through out our lives to prevent this happening to us is hard for them to grasp.
You act like men don't have a care in the world when they're out and about despite being four times the majority victims of most violent crimes. Male victims of homicide in 2020: 14,000+. Female victims of homicide in 2020: 3000+. In states where carrying firearms is legal, men tend to do so. Women worry about being raped. Men worry about being killed.
@Screamsgutter Men are also the perpetrators of the grand majority of violent crimes. Women fear being raped, being sex trafficked and then killed.
So? Does that mean men can't be victims of other mens' wrongdoings? They are still victims.
If a man and woman are walking along and come into conflict with someone bearing firearms, if you had to place a bet on which is most likely to end up the victim of at least a gunshot wound/at most of murder, which would it be? Whoever is seen as the greater adversary, which nine times out of ten will be the guy. At least she has a chance to fight off/escape her rapist/sex trafficker, if those are even the perpetrator's motives. At the very least she'll be kept alive longer and have way more chances to overcome the situation than he had, especially if he's dead.
Yet, 90 percent of this could be avoided if everyone just obeyed their heavenly father and listened to his advice. No unwanted pregnancy, no immodest dress, no violent spouses, no worrying about covering your drinks, no worry about not getting what you want because you are too focused on giving to others and they do the same for you. As for the rest of pregnancy and menopause, as well as cramps, we all have our first parent Eve to thank for that. Lactation should not really be a complaint in my opinion, but if you don't want to lactate or be told to take responsibility for the life of a baby you didn't want, don't put yourself in a situation to allow it to happen. It is totally possible.
You seriously believe the reason women get assaulted and raped is because they didn't obey their heavenly father?
What about all those Catholic altar boys? They obeyed their heavenly father to the letter and look how that turned out for them.
Hahahahaha…. Oh wait, are you being serious?
@iamjustaman correct.
Notice I did not blame one side or the other. God's laws are for both genders. Man should treat women as sisters and mothers. Women should have the same respect for the man. If we stop worrying about me me me, and instead consider the best interest of others, many of these things would be corrected. God is always the same and never changes. That is why when we listen to him, we know the direction that is best to take for every situation. But when we decide to rely on our own understanding in opposition to God, we always suffer. Women and men are assaulted and raped for selfish reasons. Both sides share responsibility. The man who rapes has given in to selfish desire and does not consider his fellow woman's best interest. Instead of changing his ways in harmony with God's law, he chooses his own path.
Likewise the woman, knowing that man is greatly affected by what he sees with his eyes, makes every effort to be modest and humble. The true beauty of both is what lies in the heart of a person, not what you think you should be able to get away with wearing out in public.
Of course there are many other examples. But this one stays on topic. Mock it if you like, it matters not to me. But don't throw blame all on one gender if there is some sacrifice you could have made to prevent the wrongdoing.
@nycres where in the law of God does it say anything about being an altar boy? Really the whole practice of it is a tradition. I speak of following the letter of the law and the principle behind it. Not going beyond what is written. Children are to be obedient to their parents, not someone who wrongly calls themselves rabbi or father. The one who does call himself this already breaks the law. Also by knowing he has a wrong desire and lack of good sense to handle it, he further misses the principle of the law and still bases his decision on his selfish desire.
@ subarugirl, which part of this all is funny? Your response shows a spirit of the world and its so called wisdom. But the righteous one considers the things pertaining to righteousness, while the world considers it foolishness.
Omg, totally agree. I'm so sick of complaining about sexism and then guys telling me I have it easy because I'm a girl. Like, hello? Like tbh the moment I complain about it here, I bet you there'll be some guy who responds saying "wtf but what about ME. I'm so nice to girls but they dont like me!!"
I'm so done with "nice guys" and sexists that I've turned lesbian <3 (jk I'm pan)
It's almost like guys simply don't hear you when you talk about sexism. You can shout and scream and quote peer-reviewed research and they'll just talk with their dicks and tell you to grow up.
When mens' rights guys talk about things being too sensitive really they're just saying "I got reprimanded for degrading someone because I found it funny and for some reason, no one else thought my demeaning talk was funny!"
Honestly I've come across so many misogynists on this freaking site, calling women "feminazis" and sharing tips on how to cause us harm—it's too much
@tyleeandpink There's one of those words that is completely misconstrued. We don't hate women. We prefer to be without them. Remember men don't need women. But women need men. They can't fend for themselves. And they abuse the welfare system provided by the state. Which is guess what, mainly composed of men. So women saying they don't need men is a complete fucken joke.
@YesIWouldLikeFries on that sense everyone needs everyone. We all live in society.
If you don't want to get into a relationship fine. More power to you. Difference is to you is a "want". In the time of our grandparents to women was almost imposed. Today, like us, they get to chose.
Always a reason behind everything. Not that it's right.
You know whats to much? Is women who claim equality which really means "authority" equally to men so they dont have to listen to men anymore through the use of sorcery (WITCHRAFT) And that is an abomination to GOD. This is common place of female communion here on gag.
@YesIWouldLikeFries You're a joke. Scientists have found a way for women to impregnate themselves using their own bone marrow. I'd like to see men do the same. And feminists don't hate men, either. Just the stupid ones like you.
@Djaay You're calling all women witches?
@Asad1ONE1 Fair
The women who claim AUTHORITUY over men and belong to the cult of feminism... YES they're whitches.
@Djaay Feminism isn't a cult. Misandry is.
@Djaay witches don't exist. Magic doesn't exist.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Precisely, thank you
Empathy is key 🗝️.
People of the world can contribute to a DRASTIC change if we focus on the "whys" and not only "whats". Everyone has feelings that we should respect. Goes both ways. Concerning those people that respect others feelings without expecting anything in return, those people are special and sadly, rare.
@Asad1ONE1 Agreed. No one deserves to have their problems ignored or downplayed. Not men, not women, and not any other demographic.
Yes. No one is perfect though. Also, let's try and practice what we preach. You're young with a whole life ahead of you. The earlier the better.
@Asad1ONE1 Yes, I agree.
@tyleeandpink
You wahmen are the joke. Do you know why on line dating was really created?
I'll tell you. It was to expose what you wahmen are really like. And it worked brilliantly. We always suspected you were sluts. Now we know for sure. You lose.
by the way blocking me isn't going to stop me from replying.
And mods neither will banning me 🖕
@tyleeandpink "No one deserves to have their problems ignored or downplayed. Not men, not women, and not any other demographic."
Then why is it that feminists have fucked up the ability to have a nuclear family?
They just want want want, take take take and if that wasn't bad enough they don't want to take responsibility for their actions.
They get pregnant on purpose just so they can live off welfare. Which guess what? It comes from taxes we pay. The majority from men. Women don't need men? I think not. Without us you'd have nothing. You'd be nothing. You're nothing but leeches.
@FriesPlz no one gets pregnant to live in poverty on purpose hon… if I wanted quick and easy money, I wouldn’t chose to be pregnant for 9 months, push a baby the size of a melon out of my vagina destroying my body, just to make the lifetime commitment of raising a human being and a parent for the rest of my life….
@Subarugirl So many women do though. They don't really take care of their children. They just do it to keep collecting their welfare cheques.
And your body will change and be ruined simply by getting older. You cannot change that even if you don't get pregnant.
Wahmen have fucked society to the point where its not worth it to put in effort for them.
@FriesPlz I smell sexism
@FriesPlz
1. Why online dating proved what women really are?
2. Whoever made online dating made it for the money. Don't listen to conspiracy theories.
3. They didn't make it impossible to have a nuclear family. I am married to a feminist and I have a nuclear family. So what's your excuse?
4. Actually today women make most of the workforce.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I don't want a relationship or marriage or girlfriend.
What I have a problem with is when a man isn't interested in a woman and she makes false allegations against him to try and get his assets and resources which she has no right to. Not for any reason. She is not entitled to anything from him. No matter how much she wants it.
Wahmen need to stop trying to use men as resources. YOU DON'T GET TO HAVE ANY ACCESS TO OUR ATTENTION TIME AND RESOURCES. FUCK OFF. Can't make it any clearer than that.
Wahmen want to a meal work to earn money and buy it yourself. Same goes for anything you want to buy. Men are done being your ATM. You are cut off.
And if you think you can find a "good man" you won't be able to. Us older men are teaching the younger men and boys not to get involved with women at all. We are going to cut you off completely. The only men they that'll be left over are the simps and soyboys.
@friesandsauce If that's what you have a problem with them relax. False allegations are very rare.
Again, today women make up most of the working class. So they clearly are getting their own resources. Not ours.
There are plenty men out there teaching their boys that women are just people. Not an evil to feared.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "So they clearly are getting their own resources. Not ours."
Not entirely. The buildings, infrastructure, etc were built by men.
What should happen is women should construct buildings themselves. Create their own infrastructure including electricity, gas, water, roads, etc. Without help from men at all.
Once they've done that then we'll talk. Because the buildings, infrastructure, etc are our resources not theirs.
Women don't make up the majority of the workforce. Look at how many single mothers there are. Leeches.
@tyleeandpink Can't wait for artificial wombs. Then females will be obsolete.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "1. Why online dating proved what women really are?"
Just look at any womens' dating profile. All of them have a list of demands. None of them write what they can offer a man.
I've even seen pregnant women on there asking for a beta and they're still with the baby daddy. How fucked is that?
They write their accomplishments. We don't care about womens' accomplishments.
"2. Whoever made online dating made it for the money. Don't listen to conspiracy theories."
Yes but its also to expose wahmen.
Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a conspiracy fact.
"3. They didn't make it impossible to have a nuclear family. I am married to a feminist and I have a nuclear family. So what's your excuse?"
I have no need to get married and have a family. No excuse needed.
"4. Actually today women make most of the workforce."
According to who?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 We don't fear them. Not at all. We prefer to live without them.
They need to butt out of our lives and go be independent as they claim #MGTOW
@friesandsauce We’d love to do that work but unfortunately, some people like to keep women OUT of that. How is a single mother a leech? She’s single. She has no one to leech off of. If you’re so passionate about this, get off the site.
@friesandsauce You wanna squeeze a baby out of your…? Okay I guess, good luck then. But how would women be obsolete if women can already get pregnant without men using their bone marrow? By that definition we’re all obsolete, you included.
@friesandsauce If work counts as a resource then we are the ones leeching of them. Who does most of the house work? Who cooks most of the food? Who are most teachers? Nurses? Good luck for us doing any work without their work.
Everyone is needed for society to function.
Facts don't care about your feelings. Women today are the majority of the workforce.
You know that single mothers must have jobs to support their children right? Child support is not enough to make a living. Is barely enough to pay basic bills.
1. I have been on tinder and many girls did had things they would offer. Others had demands. Some had both. Who cares?
2. You seem to be confusing a few women with most. Yes the woman you described is awful, but she is a rarity. Just like a man asking for a 18 year old virgin to fuck while is wife taking care of his kids at home. There are men like that. Only rare.
Let's not confuse shitty people with most people.
3. The very idea that the goal was that is insane. Literally only someone like you would expect something like that.
4. Data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Thank you so much
@friesandsauce anyone, men or women, can live their lifes perpetually single. That is not hard to do. Just don't get in a relationship ever.
If that is what you want fine. Do it and be happy.
But to think that's the path that will make every men happy... That's another story.
@tyleeandpink I don't think I am saying anything that revolutionary here. Most of what I said is obvious.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You’re right though. And I still appreciate you jumping in
Nah that's your bullshit that you're smelling.
She's leeching off the government which is majority composed of men.
Also the welfare that she's on comes from tax dollars which is mostly taken from mens' wages.
How are you this dumb?
Get off this site? Why because you can't handle the harsh truth? Go cry to your equally vapid friends.
Artificial wombs. We'll put our seed into them and the cells will divide and grow without the the need for a woman.
Those scientists that can use bone marrow are majority men. So nice try but without men you're helpless. Once again men are the ones that have invented something.
When women can build their own society from scratch then we'll talk.
Make your own tools. Build your own buildings, infrastructure, etc. Stop using what men have invented, created and maintain. You are not entitled to it.
Women are kept out because you are a distraction and you'd try to impose your bullshit into a project.
Furthermore you lack the logic necessary because you don't make decisions based on logic. You use emotion. There is no need for emotions on a work site.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I am living my life perpetually single. I ignore most of society because its a sespool of bullshit.
What I have a problem with is woke culture infesting every facet of society.
An example.
Before Doom Eternal was released the SJWs got offended because the demons weren't referred to with respect. They wanted them to be referred to as mortally challenged. I know right. How stupid is that? Getting upset over completely made up beings.
They hoped it would hurt the sales of the game. It did the opposite. It created free advertising for id/Bethesda. They even incorporated it into the game. With the holograms mentioning that they don't like being referred to as demons. But as mortally challenged lol.
Those kind of people need to step back and take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. Because they are the kind of people that will complain about anything and everything.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Wrong. Men created 99% of society as we know it.
Statistics are bullshit. They don't prove anything. They have no basis in reality. They are synthetic sources of info. Not real world practical info. They don't take into account all the people that don't participate in society. As in they don't give useful info about themselves. And some of those people live off the grid completely.
@jellybeanyoghurt According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics women make most of the workforce today. Not by a lot, still they are far from leeching society as you say.
An artificial womb is further away than parthenogenesis is. No really during a study on Parkinson's disease by changing the embryos it was discovered that it was possible to make a sperm like liquid using cells from the mother. The baby would always be a clone of her, still it can be done. It's far from reliable, is still being studied and even when they figure it out I don't believe they will do it.
You want to live a pertetual single life is your choice. If it makes you happy go for it that's what you should go for.
Censorship in games is stupid. They wanted to do the same in DMC due to the girls having a naked scene. You don't see any of their private parts, but still they tried to censor it. I don't agree with that at all. But what does this have to do with the topic?
We created 99% of society?
1. Then we also made 99% of what's wrong with it which is a lot!
2. Don't fool yourself without women's role supporting us we would never have made it. Try to build whitout having someone making you food and taking care of your kids and you when you get home. This is past of course, today like I said they work as much as us.
Statistics are bullshit? Or you just don't like facts? Even making up excuses like "don't consider those who don't take part in society". Everyone is part of society. Even homeless people are.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics women make most of the workforce today. Not by a lot, still they are far from leeching society as you say.
We created 99% of society?
1. Then we also made 99% of what's wrong with it which is a lot!
2. Don't fool yourself without women's role supporting us we would never have made it. Try to build whitout having someone making you food and taking care of your kids and you when you get home. This is past of course, today like I said they work as much as us.
Statistics are bullshit? Or you just don't like facts? Even making up excuses like "don't consider those who don't take part in society". Everyone is part of society. Even homeless people are."
Statistics are synthetic. They aren't based on anything real. Just a bunch of numbers on paper that somehow "prove" something. They don't.
Everyone is a part of society in that they exist in it yes. But not everyone contributes equally. That is what disappoints me. You have the ruling elite at the top, the government puppets and then us. Yet people are so concerned with their petty trivial bullshit instead of focusing on important issues like how to take away the ruling elite's power and take it back to we the people. Until that happens nothing we do matters.
@jellybeanyoghurt actually statistics do represent reality. It's their hole point.
Yes society has a hierarchy so what? I don't make as much money as my boss and I can promise you I am happier than he is. Like you said, don't worry about trivial stuff.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 actually statistics do represent reality. It's their hole point.
Yes society has a hierarchy so what? I don't make as much money as my boss and I can promise you I am happier than he is. Like you said, don't worry about trivial stuff."
The entirety of working and earning money is trivial. Yet no one seems to care that we are slaves and money is our chain.
@jellybeanyoghurt Literally you’re the one who said statistics were worthless. To quote, “ Men created 99% of society as we know it.” Then, immediately after, “Statistics are bullsh*t.” You’re contradicting yourself.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "actually statistics do represent reality. It's their hole point."
How do you know the statistics are true and haven't been made up?
Remember anything on the internet is 99% bullshit 1% truth. That goes for other media too including tv, radio, magazines, books, etc.
For example covid deaths. There are more deaths reported due to covid then there actually are.
Same with the amount of vaxxed they say there are. Its much less than you think.
Omg is that real , I was thinking of that this situation only belongs to some specific countries or cultures etc. , sounds really interesting. Maybe it is like this around the world I dunno. I am certainly surpsired but we are all equal we are all human beings. These kind of things make the both gender keeping away from each other so what we are taught is mostly really wrong , I hope we will not be like that in the future and teach our children what is correct in which condition what we have to do and what we really need to behave people regardless of their gender respectfully.
I have not been a woman, but I feel like both sexes have their inherent biological advantages and disadvantages. Women's advantage is nature, or the natural attraction that men feel for them from an early age. They really dont have to do anything to be wanted in society. Men's advantage is time. While women's attraction is transient and diminishes rapidly after a certain age (mostly by 30), men's attraction is based on what he can do in life and make with his hands and mind. A biologist has put it very well, "men play to win, women play not to lose."
Why do you shave you body hair, is it really for us or because you want it off? Why do you want to get thin, is it for us or your own ego? Calm down about what specifically? Female teachers give harsher grades and punishments to boys. At work women have an advantage because female voices are trusted more. Why do you think Alexa and Siri are not Alexander and Sirius. As for violence yes it is wrong. I am not certain on an overall level though whether you have it harder than us. Suicide rates suggest otherwise.
@Jackblue
Women at work have it easier and they get away with more. Why? Because the men in charge (management types) are weak ass fucks that have no back bone.
Lol why that image though what the guy did 🤔.
Yeah it all seems that the grass is greener on other side.
If you think from what they call vagainaCentric it does look bad
Nobody can change the natural occirings and men can't be told that they are the cause for it lol
And for one orgasam of men lol like women donot crave sex at all you all do it only for men you guys are so sacrificial thank you i understand you donot het the pleasure of sex you just do favours for men.
No means no this one is tricky actually.
Bc it's a true fact that no isn't a really no they want to be persuaded in most cases make all the women ti be really clear about it.
Then possibly the guys will take no as no it's made as a behavioural thing and lots of observation bc then the women start playing with minds of men.
Lol donot accept drinks from strangers simple 😸 .
They will come to know how you are repulsed by them.
These things which you say that men expect things just bc guys buy you drink nope but observation says this was made to be seen like that.
It has stemmed out of women earlier days who used their bodies like that in order to be courteous or like returning the favour now it looks like norm and also it's not only men women are expecting sex on first date or will think the guy isn't man enough or doesn't have confidence
Not smart enough to offend men?
Lol if you even offend women with your smartness they also won't like it.
Don't use smartness for offending use it for building something better
Look we get it, life is hard. Just so you know men don't have it easier either. Life really sucks, and the only way that we can get through this is together. Even a guy like me who is all against relationships and is relationship-free, I have to admit that every woman deserves a man that treats her right, protects her, makes her feel safe and takes care of her and her problems, likewise every man deserves a woman that makes him feel loved. I hope that every person actually finds a partner that makes him/her feel special, and makes life less miserable.
Although I don't need that crap, cause I'm relationship free. I walk this path alone. Feels good man.
Half of those things are just your biology, don't blame society.
No doesn't always mean no, do you understand social cues at all?
How about stop recirocating if you'll give nothing in return?
Bodily autonomy, you mean your "right" to kill a baby?
You guys want equal rights but don't want the consequences that go along with it. If a smaller and weaker man mouths off he can expect to be hit. Why should women be different?
Society tells me to act in opposite ways too, women act like this is unique to them for some reason. People always complain that I either smile too much or too little, idfk how to appease them.
Hi, i agree with you… as a woman. I think some of these things are still issues, but it has gone too far. Society immediately programs us to dislike white men. If they are successful, it is because they are “privileged “. Like my father. He grew up dirt poor, literally only a few hundred dollars from homeless. He scrabbled and scraped, working several crappy jobs, being resourceful to get to upper middle class. He has had a hard life, but people automatically assume that he was born rich, and never had to work a day of his life… just because of his race and gender. It’s beginning to edge on racist and sexist against men.
You are allowed to be violent towards men with zero repercussion.
Actually, any retribution, even minor will elicit protection by those around you.
We don't hear "girls will be girls" we hear "what did you do wrong?"
Imagine being shamed for rejecting a girl twice your size (I wasn't even sure she was interested in me), while the class is shamed for using association with her as a cudgel against me (but not me against her) when I was beaten daily including by some of my female colleagues. (one which stole my first kiss after dropping me head first in the ground, among other things.)
Also, literally everybody, even the teachers knew I wanted to be a fucking priest at the time, a scientist priest, like mendel. (protestant mom didn't liked it.)
Just to top it off, I was far from the only one.
I’m sorry that you had to experience that but I don’t see how that is relevant in this context. Men have a plethora of their own issues that they experience. You should totally write a my take about it, I’d be interested in reading it.
I'm not sorry. As bad as it was, it had it's function.
I vented enough, the lessons are way more important than any venting.
The point here is perspective.
Life is not a power struggle, the universe is a setting that cares not about how we feel, how much we cry, kings and queens who were literally reared to manipulate and use emotion got their heads on silver plates exactly for those reasons. I'm not about to follow in their footsteps.
My story is not a singular one, let that serve as a lesson that if your story ever works, it demonstrably works exactly because the opposite of what you imply is true and it's common knowledge.
Like an open lie.
this is not 10K B. C. anymore.
Perspective is right, It's important to put yourself in someone else's shoes in order to have a better understanding of where they are coming from
I'm sorry men have given you a poor experience so far. As you can see, you are not alone in this.
I am not perfect by any means. One thing I've learned to do to manage my sexual urges in a healthy way is post polls on here with questions I'd love to ask women but for obvious reasons never would irl.
That way, when I meet a woman as interesting as you seem to be, nothing gets in the way of treating her with the respect she's entitled to. And that in turn makes her want to meet me again.
I'm never amazed at the amount of misogyny on GAG. It looks like 95% of "penised" individuals on here are bored easily triggered man-children fully capable of reading, yet 100% incapable of learning. They can't even take a real honest moment and contemplate what you shared, because they maniacally and psychopathically enjoy putting women down rather than understand other's lives.
But if we look at it objectively & consider the price of a surrogate pregnancy then carrying a baby is worth way less than the 18 years of child support a guy would have to pay to a broke woman to take care of his kid. If you opt out of getting any child support (from the dad or the government) I'll give you a thumbs up for doing the 1 biological job that nature gave you & that all of your female ancestors did.
You can give me the thumbs up anyway. ☺ I actually loved being pregnant and I feel so privileged to have felt all those kicks and yoga moves my babies were doing. The same with breastfeeding. There was a special bond that is priceless.
@TrueConfection👍
Thanks! 😂
@hahahmm But the man still chose to have sex with the broke woman who is struggling to raise his child for those 18 years. Dropping seed (which is all reward for him in that moment, and he most likely forgets it happened shortly after) has zero value to her. It all goes to his kid. Where does the mans struggle come outside of having to pay child support? I disagree in your personal value of child support, also, in some cases it’s all the chosen contact the kid has of their father. I’ve known a great number of men who fight with everything to see their children after a stupid choice. Keep your thumb signals. You miss the point entirely.
@dustybiker Nice try at playing emotions. I said let's look at it objectively. The dollars and cents don't lie. Next.
@hahahmm I expected you only to continue missing the point.
It’s interesting that so many men who are pro life, complain about paying child support…
@Subarugirl Oh, I didn't complain about "paying child support"... I showed you two how math works. Unlike feelings it's easily measurable. Probably why when you buy diapers & baby food you pay with money instead of feelings.
@hahahmm The only thing you showed me is how little compassion you have for children made from mistakes half caused by a man. And further insult the woman he too chose to sleep with. Blaming for all when the man is half a cause is not a good light to shine on yourself. Thank goodness those children have child support legally awarded to them.
@dustybiker Oh, now it's about compassion for children instead of OP doing a self-centered rant about her feelings.
Trying to act as if you are a victim isn't very becoming. All people have problems. Yours are no more special than anyone else's.
jesus christ. why do you immediately perceive someone voicing their opinions about being disadvantaged as trying to be “more special than anyone else”? your ego is that easily threatened? by problems that literally have nothing to do with you personally? interesting.
I didn’t claim to be more special than anyone else I’m just talking about a lot of issues that women collectively face
@ie_amour
Oh look. Another feminist spouting about how western women are some oppressed, mistreated class. Bad old men oppressing all of these holy creatures known as "woman".
She went to university so they could tell her how oppressed she is and how "evil" men are.
Another "activist".
I’m not a feminist, and I am speaking from personal experience. I understand that you have a different perspective, but I’d be willing to bet that most women here can relate to at least one, if not everything that I talked about. If what I’ve experienced is upsetting to you maybe think about why it makes you upset instead of trying to attack me.
I was replying to: "ie_amour"