What it's really like to be a woman

[Subarugirl]

We are raised in world where we are told to "calm down", because boys will be boys; but are blamed if we didn't see it coming, because men have urges.

Our bodies congratulate us for coming into womanhood by giving us body hair that society expects us to shave off along with the monthly shedding of our uterine lining with debilitating cramps. Then when it's all over out body gives us the celebratory gift of menopause, that will leave us with a life time of hot flashes, brittle bones, and vaginal dryness.

We get 9 months of pregnancy and 2 lactating breasts for a man's one orgasm, then have to push a baby out of a small hole, while most men still can't understand vaginal elasticity. All while trying to convince our doctors to let us make our own informed decisions about our own bodies

We are constantly told that we are too fat, too thin, too quiet, too loud. They want us to be smart, but not be dumb, but not smart enough to offend the men. We're still trying to convince people that no means no. Fighting for our own bodily autonomy and struggling to report own assaults since people would rather blame our cloths, instead of the men ripping them off.

Meanwhile the men are feeling used if they're not rewarded for buying drinks we didn't ask for, but still not concerned that we have to cover them.

[GlassTop]

What it’s like to be man:
You are complete trash unless you are attractive, make a lot of money, or both. You have no rights to your kids. If you are divorced, the woman gets half of everything regardless of her contribution. You are automatically the criminal until proven innocent. A woman will be believed over you 100% of the time. You can lose your career and life for talking to the wrong woman. You are automatically a sexual harasser unless the girl likes it. You are a creeper for talking to any girl younger or older than you. You are an asshole for wanting an attractive woman. You are nothing but a wallet and provider. You must always ask for consent, even if it’s your wife. You must never put your hands on a woman, even in self defense. You will never understand a woman or her struggles, regardless of how many friends, gf’s, and family you ever had. You must pay to get into bars. No freebies for you. You will always be assumed to be a criminal/pedophile and never be trusted with children. You will never be believed over a woman.

[Subarugirl]

Are you seriously upset about having to ask for consent? Like I totally understand some of your other points… but consent is an issue for you?

[Dchrls78104]

@GlassTop unfortunately you are correct. I can only add: a man who is a virgin after, say 40, is not OK; a man who approaches or looks at a woman is a pervert, and a man who does not is a faggot. At least that's what I've seen in my country

[GlassTop]

Just pointing out that women don’t have to, and if they don’t, it wouldn’t be considered as big a deal if a man did the same.

[Screamsgutter]

Because women don't think it applies to them as well.

Honestly, I wouldn't expect a girl to ask for my consent. Hell, it wasn't something to expect to hear from either gender, and low and behold we all survived. See, back in the day all of these checklists of fragility didn't exist. Luckily, neither did most victim mentality, and sexual harassment, sexual assault, school shootings, false accusations, non-smoking sections and similar stuff so prevalent today were topics you'd only hear about fleetingly.

One thing's for sure, we weren't distracted with cellphones and the social media with any of the sexual objectification found there, porn (which constituted adult magazines, VHS tape rentals and maybe the Playboy Channel) and not even the internet 'til a little later. And video games were of the Sega, Nintendo and TurboGrafx-16 caliber.

[Explorer91]

You do realise a lot of this is because of the actions of other men ruining it for good men.
This is not because of women that good men get treated this way. It’s because there are a lot of bad men.
Good men need to understand women aren’t the enemy, it’s bad men who are the enemy to themselves.

[Subarugirl]

@Explorer91 yes, this. exactly this!

[ArchaicArachnid]

Consent is drilled into men's heads almost from childhood. Women are never taught this and do not understand the concept that men might have limits too and that men ALSO have to consent. Remember the college campaign that advertised how if a drunk man and a drunk woman have sex, the man has raped the woman? Nobody seems to care about the fact that they both did the exact same thing, it's always the guy who's to blame.

It's entirely unacceptable for a man to reject a woman in today's society - if he does that, women will resort to insulting him (calling him gay) and possibly ruining his life to make up for what they perceive to be an insult.

[msc545]

@Explorer91 Good illustration of how men are ALWAYS at fault!

[tbk83]

There is such a thing as implied consent. Communicated through subtext in speech, gestures, facial expressions, moans, etc...

[msc545]

exactly right.

[msc545]

@tbk83 In the police station, in court, and in jail there is no "implied consent".

[England4eva]

I didn’t read the entire post, as I’m a self confessed lazy scroller. 🤫

I think women definitely go through a lot. We are belittled regularly by male chauvinists, and I see examples of this on YouTube and in reality-These type of men mentally live in the dark ages.

However, I also feel bad for men who are regularly getting the blame for another men’s bad behaviour. They seem to get a generic branding just because they are a man. This is extremely sexist. However, it’s definitely NOT an excuse for the real problem causers, who say they are unfairly branded. But yet themselves are the root cause.

[TyLeeAndPink]

I agree entirely.

[England4eva]

@TyLeeAndPink which one of you rotten lot disagrees with me? 😂 Just kidding, I don’t mind anyone disagreeing.

[England4eva]

@TyLeeAndPink Thanks, I sometimes see fear in men’s eyes who feel uncomfortable incase they are “taken the wrong way” and I feel for them. So I hope no women don’t use an unfair bias against every guy they meet. Unfortunately, I never see this in the ones who “accidentally take it too far on purpose.”

[Asad1ONE1]

Yes men face a lot of Sexism. Probably entirely because of certain men themselves. And certain women don't help either.

And the same is true for women.

The difference is in the experiences and narratives.

[friesandsauce]

@england4eva that isn't fear. Its disgust and anger

[Shamalien]

@friesandsauce it is fear. A man can have his career ruined if a woman says a few bad words, and believe me, I have seen what women are like in the office. It’s appalling. They will flirt and tease and play footsie under the desk, wear skin tight clothing, show cleavage, heels, short skirts, but if I so much as look the wrong direction or say the wrong thing I’m in the office. I don’t think most people understand how the balance of power has artificially shifted in this world. Men cucked themselves on a societal scale and women just beat us into the ground. The only men who are rewarded by this are the assholes women love to complain about, he’ll beat her and she’ll stand up for him

So yeah never show fear, but it is fear, it’s real. Show fear to a woman and she’ll capitalize on that and fuck you over. Show complete and urtter disregard and that’s hot to them. Not all women, ofc, but this is just one perspective as a dude working in a female dominant office. I’m sure it might be different in male dominated offices but tbh I don't know if it only takes on HR girl to spite you

[England4eva]

@Shamalien tbh I’ve seen cases of equal numbers of men and women absolutely destroying careers for the opposite sex. It just feels much more personal when you see it only from a male or female perspective, because you only have on your own experiences to compare it to. Also, a lot of the time women make work life hell for other women and men can do the same for other men due to ego. Just gotta keep your wits about ya.

[England4eva]

@Shamalien I’ve also been forced to leave a job because of a group of vile women. They would make my life hell then as soon as a guy walked into the office they acted like my best friend so that the man wouldn’t suspect anything. Also by doing this if I spoke up I’d look crazy. Office life is sly af sometimes.

[TyLeeAndPink]

@Shamalien Jeez what kind of people are you working with

[Shamalien]

@tyleeandpink I live in a lefty city

[Shamalien]

@TyLeeAndPink like men shut up and women slutwalk and do whatever, there are more women than men in general here I don't know why but it’s a very feminist place and it’s gone too far

[jellybeanyoghurt]

@Shamalien I don't work in an office. I work in a warehouse and I've got women like that fired. I'm a gamer. Don't fuck with gamers. We are better at playing games than any woman will ever be.
I pretended to be a victim and used a bit of trolling to get her triggered and after some time she got fired lol. Now the workplace is quiet and not so bad to work there.

[OpenClose]

Totally agree.

I'm big into gender issues of both sides, but it was really weird being on MRA forums and in Feminist groups. Both got toxic af pretty quickly. Here's hoping the groups come together and don't destroy themselves by being caught up languishing in their own obsessive wokeness.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Lovely MyTake and based on the comments I have seen already, it has touched on a few nerves of the guys who don't know any better. Thank you for trying to educate them in any case.

[Subarugirl]

Thanks Bri

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

We don't need to be educated. Women need to grow up and stop acting like children. Women supposedly mature faster than men. Not from what I've observed. Their brain switches off at around thirteen and switches back on around fourty. By then they are post wall and no one wants them. Not because of looks or anything shallow like that but because they have shown their true colours. Your past is our business. Any woman that says it isn't has something to hide. And who's to say she won't repeat that behaviour? No man is going to commit to a woman when he doesn't know for sure that she won't fuck his life up. Too risky. No thanks.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I have 0 to hide and my past is absolutely not any persons business. If you don't have the mental fortitude to understand that it doesn't belong to anyone but that person (whether they be male or female) then you don't need to worry about dating. You need to spend more time worrying about growing up and realizing the past isn't going to change.

[FriesPlz]

@ez-bri-z Your past IS our business. It will give a glimpse into what type of person you are. In this day and age we can easily find out anyway from your social media. Which you love so much. It was also created to expose what wahmen are really like.
Self centred and greedy.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

@FriesPlz It simply isn't and if you feel the need to stalk a woman on her social media, she should be avoiding you like the plague anyway.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

I'd recommend you change your tone and watch the I suits lest you have another removed

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Insults*

[friesandsauce]

@ez-bri-z I don't stalk women on social media. I don't even have any. I'm just saying its a possibility if a guy chooses to do so.

They should avoid me or men like me like the plague? Why? Because it's not on your terms. Because the guy is creepy? Nope doesn't work that way.

Men choose who we want to persue. Not women. If you don't like being persued then you can enjoy your life alone with your cats and wine.

And furthermore women don't get to have anything from a man. Trying to manipulate him into giving you his time attention and resources is psychopathic. Wahmen need to get help for their cleptomania.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

@friesandsauce Yeah, I am getting big incel vibes from your statements. Nobody should be stalking anyone's social media, that IS creepy and yes, avoiding men who do that because it isn't on our terms. We don't have to settle for an insecure person just because they took the time to approach us. We will have better options come along.

[globetrotter22]

@ez-bri-z you are usually more thoughtful than having a response like that. That lovely “my take” was 110% unbridled male bashing. As usual @Subarugirl never owns up to being wrong on anything. The woman is NOT always right.

[waffles4andsyrup]

Incel? 😂😂😂😂
Go back to mummy little girl. You aren't ready to be with a real man.

And I don't have social media. As I already said. So what is the point of you repeating that.

A better option won't come along. You've been lied to by bitter femnazis. Enjoy your cats and wine.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Yikes really touched a nerve there didn't I?

Also I'm married and have kids so looks like I wasn't lied to after all, but you keep up thinking your loneliness was your call.

[Snsl153]

@waffles4andsyrup "And I don't have social media." Really? What do you think GAG is?

[ohshee]

This is why I like coming to GaG
Because of women like you..
When a guy starts to date a Women . when in the very first 5 min of talking if the guy can not hear what you just said. By her saying it. Or not saying it. But hearing it in what she's not saying. Or by just looking her deep in her eyes .

Then the girl should walk away. If a man doesn't understand every thing you just said. the girl needs to walk away.

Because in so many ways guys get to watch it first hand starting in high school. By watching there friends with there girl friends

All the way to today. Tomorrow morning will get to the job site. And as we work. There will always be a young guy even an old guy telling everyone he's a stud and what he did this weekend.
And in his story . in HIS OWN WORDS. He well tell us his version of everything you just said they just dont know that's what they are saying. . I have never been one to kiss and tell
And ever single guy and girl I work with knows this. . And they all know better to be one on one telling me about there weekend. Because every single ir married guys that has done this has been put in place. They all know I have a Daughter. A mother a sister. And just friends. So when a guy says or does any of the above. With a girl in the weekend. And needs to be a big shot on Monday. And he thinks as he's telling his story on what a stud he is. * Only if its directed to me*
I get the chance to tell him everything that he really said without using those words and it gets quite embarrassing

Anyway like I was saying
Thank you for saying what you said because
For some stupid reason if a guy doesn't already know this
Plus about a hundred other things that women have to go through when the guys first starts dating girl . And he thinks it's ok to do this to a women.
I mean the very first time he does it the girl needs to walk away
Because to me all the above is just common sense
If a guy cannot look into a girl's eyes within the first 5 minutes and read this all over her face and she's been treated this way the girl needs to walk away
And to be honest we both know there's so much more to this and so many other things that a woman has to go through that is just totally wrong

I just want to thank you for being here ungagged because I love your questions you have insight. You are a teacher you are a guide. For men and women and if the guy cannot read your question and not already know it then something's wrong or maybe he'll think before he does or says and for god sakes any woman that has to go through this just walk away it's not worth it put the guy in his place and walk away

[robbenn69]

1. There are some men who are ok with body hair, though pit hair is gross, I shave mine off. Leg hair is ok if it is light in most cases, but if you don’t want to shave your legs, that’s what stockings and pantyhose are for. I like women with pubic hair because it shows they are an adult. That waxed look creeps me out, it looks pre-pubescent. In the past women didn’t wax it off, look at 70s porno. The trend is coming back, thankfully.
2. I agree with you that women should not be thought of as “looking for it” when they dress sexy with high heels. But let me ask you, why do women buy makeup, push-up bras, sexy dresses, form fitting jeans, yoga pants, and all sorts of hair and skin products? To look good just for yourself or other girls? Bullshit! You wear all that stuff to be considered attractive to men in competition with other women. When one goes clubbing, the girls have short tight dresses, push-up bra if on the small size, 6 inch stilettos, thong panties or no panties, and hair and makeup done. Why is that? Now, I am not saying that gives a man the right to force himself on a woman, but come on, you’re wearing all that to look good for men, unless you’re a lesbian.
3. I myself appreciate a smart, strong woman. Sex is great, but you have to be able to have a good conversation when you are not. You have to find compatibility and value in each other, because eventually the novelty of sex wears off. It either becomes a chore or one or both go looking for some new pussy/cock.
4. And contrary to your statement, some women do flirt with guys for drinks, or gifts. Every many I know has at least once encountered a woman like that.
5. Honestly, you sound to me like a nice girl who has been hurt. I am sorry for that. A real man protects women, not hurts or violates them. Don’t use that hurt as an excuse to lump all men into one category. Not all men are “players” and not not all women are “cock-teases”.
6. Yes, males are the sexual aggressors, it is a biological thing in all species. And in all species, it is the female who is the sexual determiner. This is why male birds have more colorful plumage and do mating dances or mating calls, rams lock horns, etc. Now, as humans, we are supposed to be higher animals, with a knowledge of right and wrong to check the animal impulses of our biology. But a lot of people don’t do that. If all the women, said, “No ding ding without the ring!” Then men would learn. But while some women demand a commitment, others give it up if you buy them a drink and make them laugh.

[jellybeanyoghurt]

@robbenn69 There is zero benefit for a man to get married in today's world.

All women are prostitutes. Actual prostitutes are honest about it. Marriage in today's world is nothing but a more elaborate way for women to be prostitutes. They get you to pay for the wedding, gifts, etc and what you do get in return? Two flaps of skin. Its not a fair exchange. Because let's be real what does a woman really have to offer besides her body?
The answer is nothing. Men can do everything themselves. We can cook, clean, etc. The only thing we can't do is give birth. But that will change once artificial wombs are an everyday item.
Women will be obsolete.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@jellybeanyoghurt why you get into a relationship? Love care partnership support etc. No one marries just for sex. And no you can't get those things from friends. Is completely different coming from friends or you loved one. Not comparable.

By the way sex is important for women too. You underestimate how valuable a guy that actually can make them cum is for them.

By the way I got married, and I actually made money with it from all the gifts. Also my wife makes more than me so she is not in it for the money.

What benefit my marriage gave me? Nothing.
We had an awesome relationship before marriage, it was awesome after and still is awesome today. That's how is supposed to be.

[jellybeanyoghurt]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "why you get into a relationship? Love care partnership support etc. No one marries just for sex. And no you can't get those things from friends. Is completely different coming from friends or you loved one. Not comparable.

By the way sex is important for women too. You underestimate how valuable a guy that actually can make them cum is for them.

By the way I got married, and I actually made money with it from all the gifts. Also my wife makes more than me so she is not in it for the money.

What benefit my marriage gave me? Nothing.
We had an awesome relationship before marriage, it was awesome after and still is awesome today. That's how is supposed to be."

Good for you. That isn't possible anymore with the way things are now.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@jellybeanyoghurt I married three years ago. Not that long.
There are good girls out there. Work on yourself and out yourself out there. You will find them.

[jellybeanyoghurt]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You haven't been listening. I don't want them at all. Why would I waste time looking?

[Subarugirl]

@jellybeanyoghurt for someone who doesn't want a woman you seem to spend a lot of time thinking about them...

[ArchaicArachnid]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8

"My wife makes more than me"
You're in for one hell of a ride. Hope you come out alright, buddy.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@ArchaicArachnid Studies were made on this and statistically I am very unlikely to get divorced.
Have you actually read about this?
First partners who make similar amounts are less likely to get divorced. She makes more than me, but not a lot more.
Second, yes studies show that women who make more than their husbands divorce more. But have you actually read why? Even if the married woman makes more she was still expected to take care of the house and kids by her husband. They were expected to be a housewife even if there worked and made more. So of course they divorced their asses. I share household tasks with my wife. I am good.

[robbenn69]

@jellybeanyoghurt You sound like a guy who has been hurt by women. I agree somewhat with everything you said. However, to make the blanket statement that, "All women are prostitutes," is wrong. There are women out there, even if not the majority, who are not about materialistic desires. Marriage is not now or never has been an "elaborate way for women to be prostitutes." Mariage is a sign of commitment and shared goals. This is why I believe people get married too quickly. Long engagements allow you to determine if this woman values and loves you just for being you or loves you for your net worth. Believe it or not, I have felt exactly the same as you felt because I have been hurt by every woman I have known. If you consider women as "just two flaps of skin," Then my suggestion that you get a masturbation toy. Yes, men can do much by themselves, but women can offer a caring, supporting attitude, appreciation for your value, and be a true partner to you. Companionship is also very valuable. As I got older "the two flaps of skin" became less important. Perhaps this is why women tend to like older men. And yes, some prefer older men because they are richer or more accomplished. The key is to let go of your cynicism, just try to be friends, and see what her values are. Friend, a good, caring woman is out there. It may take awhile to find her. But if you approach every woman from your cynical pov then you will get what you project. You get back what you put out there.

[shayes904]

I will never know. I admit to being curious. I have worked in gentlemen’s clubs for years. One day I was in my office and a stunningly beautiful woman was telling me how interesting it would be if we could switch bodies for a month. I couldn’t argue with her, but I’m pretty sure it would not go well for either of us because we both have been programmed by society to “act” male or female, respectively. I always try to see the person behind the gender. You will get a much more honest picture of the person you are dealing with if you can do so (not always easy for sure). And I try not to judge people for reacting to their struggles because I understand what it means to feel hurt and how it can make me less than rational.
I will never understand what it is like to be a woman. I would like to think knowing that puts me a lot closer to understanding what it might be like, but probably not. I have a good sense of how much work women put into their appearance, and I understand why…because society gives women value based on their appearance. The more value you are judged to have the more freedom you will have to do as you please in life. It must be exhausting. Experiencing an unavoidable feeling of sickness each month, and debilitating pain, but having to pretend like everything is fine, must be very difficult. I cannot imagine it. Having 20 or more men try to talk to you or make sexual comments each day must make you all very angry at times, like you just want a break for once. But then also wanting the right guy (speaking of girls who like guys here) but having to sort through a sea of bad ones to find one who is ok, or above average if you are lucky, must be very sad and feel hopeless sometimes. I am willing to bet there are some very good things about being a woman, but I can understand why you all talk about the difficult challenges you face. I have worked very hard to understand women, not just because it helps me professionally, but because women are interesting to me. The reason women talk about the things they suffer through seems so obvious to me. I don’t feel like they are unreasonable. Women have a list of things to deal with that men never even have to consider in their daily lives, so it seems very unfair, and it often is. So even though I cannot understand, I can have compassion and try to help, if she wants that. As a man, being 100% trustworthy is critical if you want women to offer you more access to the world they live in. Trust is a scarce commodity these days, and women risk a lot when they choose to trust a man. I have seen a woman suffer for twenty years because she mistakenly chose to be with a devious and abusive man. He convinced her he was a good guy then demonstrated to her he was not over the course of their unfortunate relationship.
Men also have struggles, of course, but why would I want to make this topic about us (which is another thing women don’t like by the way). Ladies, I feel compassion for your struggles. I wish something could be done to make them less, but other than trying to be the best guy I can be, I can think of nothing I can do that will change what you face everyday.
You all are much more beautiful than the world gives you credit for. Remember that there is nothing wrong with you. The world does not offer enough to accommodate everyone with all the things they need. This is where competition comes from and over time this shapes cultural expectations into the things we must do to survive each day. Probably it is over-population that is the source of these problems, but that is another topic for another day.

[TRORT]

I can’t say what it’s like being woman. But I live with 5 sisters 2 that are older and 3 younger. And many cousins and Aunts. Women are very precious commodity, not Labeling you as property or item. But you have higher value then anything on the planet. They way your parents raised you play apart in your thinking as well. For example my father always tell my sisters to be careful of what they wear , your outfits speak 1000 words. And theirs different clothes for different events. Suite is typically for doing business as nice sun dress just something casual. My sisters always voice their opinion because my parents taught us we are all even and we all live in the same world. Don’t ever let someone keep you from voicing how you feel. We all have our on rolls/ paths doesn’t make one gender better than the other. Females is most of the time bot as strong as the male so walking in parking lot can be scary at times. Not say guys aren’t afraid either we are sometimes but we won’t tell anyone, we would be made fun of or called weak. Wearing unveiling clothing will draw A LOT OF ATTENTION. I understand your wearing for yourself but you are also wearing it to either get complements or have people take notices of you which isn’t bad thing. My mother always taught my sisters and my brother and I to use are brian instead of our muscles. Which is where woman far more exceeds in. Most girl are smart funny and understand more then guy. It’s just opening her up is 100% the problem. I just don’t mean sexually I mean understand her. Most of flims teach woman to be Mysterious. In my thinking that’s BIG No No !! This world is built on communication if you can’t verbally say how you feel or what you want guy’s can’t read minds and we don’t know what your trying to express. For example I run across oss 100+ Girls a day delivery. I keep my head down and work 14+ hours a day only off day is Sunday. And I do the things I need done for next week. But every girl I encounter assumes I’m play boy or in to hookups. I’ve only dated twice both females partners never pasted month with them. Due to 1 was married which I didn’t know second was sleeping around with her coworkers. Girl aren’t going to know about person until you get to know them. I was taught to date with intention of marrying her.

[TRORT]

Sorry I know it’s long post by I always text from the heart. G

[Nileviewboy]

OK, firstly a lot of points in your post are accurate.
However there are a lot of things that aren't.

Men do have urges, but so do women. Do you know how many times my wife has slapped me when i have said no, and she's tried to get my lad hard when im not in the mood.

it is true that we dont like dumb girls, its called being able to have an intelligent conversation about something other than a celebs favourite lip gloss, or how you might look good in Meghans wedding dress!, or who might win love island! (in my experience thats all the dumb girls talk about). That is just plain out right irritating.
but i also know women who love mens brains. They feel safer with smart men, and no its not saying that women are more stupid than men. Women feel safer with smart men as we have the speed and strength, and when you put those 2 in with a quick mind you have a fantastic machine!. We are built to be the hunter gatherers and protectors to and for women, that is how god made us!.

i personally dont care if you shave your armpits or vag, or not. im not sure why all feminists think men are that shallow. Oh you got pit hair, sorry love im not going out with you in that short top!.

Truth be told love, there is only one thing that make women self conscious about their looks, feelings and bodies, and that is the likes Kim K, Meghan Markle, and all the other celebs that have MILLIONS to spend on cosmetics, designer tailor made dresses and expensive hairdressers.

im sorry you got the short end of the stick with having a uterus and vagina and that you have to regularly go through bleeding and cramps. Yet any decent man would run you a hot bath, fill your hot water bottle, get you copious amounts of chocolate and ice cream, and wash your blood stained undies (i do all the above my for my wife when she's on).

your post is absolutely outrageous, and seems to do men a great disservice. Next time you have 5 guys trying to pull you at a bar, or have one dragging you down a dark alley, dont shout for a man to help you. You might think we are insulting you for calling you weak by trying to help you!

[loveslongnails]

Ok - while some of this is true, some of this is obviously beyond your control - it's biology and what's the point in bitching about it? Since you don't believe in a "God", I can't really say "take up your feelings about your bodily design with your creator". Sure, it would be a lot nicer if you didn't have to get periods, go through menopause, or push a bowling ball through the eye of a needle. I get that, but that's what having two XX chromosomes gets you.

Some of your points are related to specific "societies", but not all. Female body hair is not frowned upon every place in the world. And it deserves mention that I've seen men with hair jet black, thick body hair who look horrible in my opinion. I'd shave MYSELF if I looked like that!

I take exception also to associating "calming down" singularly with "boys will be boys". In my opinion, both women AND men should learn to calm down in general as a way of life. It promotes better thinking and decision making. But "the boys will be boys" double standard is a different issue, and no, you shouldn't calm down about that when men abuse it.

Also, by and large, doctors are NOT the ones trying to decide what should go on in your body - it's legislators in the United States Congress. Most of them are Conservative Republicans who believe abortion is murder and it's their duty to "protect the helpless unborn", and so on. Sure there are doctors against abortions too, but they are NOT your moving force to control your vagina or your uterus.

Finally, this right here - "men are feeling used if they're not rewarded for buying drinks we didn't ask for" is true of some men - the stupid ones, disrespectful ones. Unfortunately, that's at least 50-60% of them, but it's not all of them.

The double standards and the idea of "sexual privilege", or that women who speak their mind is unfeminine, should definitely be challenged, but there's not much you can do about biology at the moment. Thanks for the Take.

[Subarugirl]

I’m not talking about abortion, I’m talking about reproductive rights like being able to get you’re tubes tied.

Thanks for reading and giving such a thoughtful response

[loveslongnails]

I always read your stuff, be they rants or just questions. You're a spunky woman, and I like that.

[Subarugirl]

Thank you 😊

[loveslongnails]

I wasn't aware that doctors have any say when it comes to your decision to get your tubes tied? Perhaps they are some who choose not to do it at all, I don't know?

[loveslongnails]

YW. I also dated a woman many years ago who could be your twin sister! I was crazy about her too - not that it affects my brain at all, of course. :)

[Subarugirl]

Oh for sure a lot will straight up refuse if you’re under 25 or if you don’t have 2 children.

[loveslongnails]

I could see how that would be annoying.

[Subarugirl]

Annoying really isn’t a strong enough word for it

[Screamsgutter]

Doctors have also denied men vasectomies if they're under a certain age, single and/or childless. Not all, but some have. As far as married men, doctors have been known to want/need the opinion/require the acknowledgement of the mens' wives prior to considering performing the procedure.

All this does is cause men and women to lie about being married/single/having kids to the next doctor they go to when the first won't perform the procedure, whether it's tying tubes or vasectomies. I also find it funny that doctors can have a bunch of stipulations concerning women having their tubes tied, yet to get an abortion they'll wheel her right in with little to no questions asked. The Elliot Institute says, of surveyed American women who have had abortions, 79% said that they were not given information on alternatives to abortion, 84 percent said they did not receive adequate counseling and 67 percent said they received no counseling before abortion. Wonderful.

[Subarugirl]

@Screamsgutter not to the extent they do women

[loveslongnails]

@Screamsgutter And guess who's behind all that lack of information? Hmmm, that couldn't be your conservative Republican Party in the USA, could it?

[Subarugirl]

Which gender is overwhelming in control of government and media hmm?

[Sixgunsound]

Dialogues like these are important, way more important than quick cheap shot counter-arguments. It took a lot of courage for the OP to expose herself to internet trolls and try to capture her experience in print, and it is not right to come at her with attacks which attempt to reframe the conversation about your issues. Legitimate grievances exist on both sides, but this thread is not the place. The floor remains open to start your own thread about men’s issues, which the OP and others may even comment on. Shutting down people who try to start conversations about any topic, especially something do near and dear to one’s identity as their life experience, robs all of us of the ability to have a constructive conversation. It is neither useful nor helpful and damages gender relations with no gains for either side. I don’t feel attacked by someone telling their story, but I can understand why she would feel attacked by some of the responses. Tell your story in your thread, or better yet propose a solution. I’m here for insight into how I can be a better father for my two daughters, and would appreciate it if both men and women here could be more civil and respectful to each other in creating a dialogue instead of a gender war. There are plenty of other places to troll, can this place please be a meeting place for those trying to improve?

[jellybeanyoghurt]

@Sixgunsound this is the internet. Its not meant for serious discussions. If you want that go join a Meetup group or something.
You won't find any useful discussions on here (the internet). Its a playground and it is used as such lol.

[DarkWinterNights]

All true, and they are serious issues. But there is a key difference. Men go through very serious problems completely alone and the statistics prove it with deaths, suicide rates, accidents, substance abuse, workplace accidents, homelessness, plummeting college rates, sinking marriage rates, skyrocking mental illness, lower life expectancies, dropping fertility and testosterone rates…


This isn’t to suggest a competition or struggle olympics, but the problem is- according to society men are supposed to suck it up, be a man, and care about everyone else’s issues but theirs. Simply bringing up mens issues or admitting you have a problem is taboo and can & will label you a misogynist, an incel, or worse. There is no objectivity, logic or room for discussion. If you’re a man, not sure if it’s worse to be a white man where you never mattered and expected that everything was handed to you, or a black man, where society pretends you matter, just to throw you away at the earliest convenience. Just a cog in the machine, and young men are given a sink or swim lesson in that immediately out of high school or even earlier. I knew a lot of guys in school who were homeless, and that was 14+ years ago.


It’s not my intention for this to come across as bitter or angry, but growing up a man isn’t as easy as it looks, and it takes a toll on you. Especially when you lose friends to completely preventable causes. Unfortunately the way things are going it’s going to get worse for everyone.

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

Never a truer word spoken.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Women are delusional and follow Apex fallecy. They believe most men live the lives of top 20% of males. They believe most men have respect, power, good/decent lives and good dating life.

Meanwhile the reality is this only holds true for top 20% of males and a lot of guys aren't doing so well. Society does not care about males. You are used as cannon fodder for war, do dangerous jobs and to protect females who otherwise consider you scum and wish you died.

[YesIWouldLikeFries]

@Lookingforthetruth This is so true. Yet women and wahmen can't seem to snap out of the fantasy world they're living in.

[ElvenMr]

You could've worded this much better. You basically say men are trash in this, and you expect men to not get "angry" over this post?

"What it's really like to be a woman" written in less then 250 words.
It's basically just man bashing.. huge generalisations..
Fuck those men who think they can do whatever with women, but also fuck these kind of posts...

"body hair that society expects us to shave off"
Same for applies to men.

"We get 9 months of pregnancy and 2 lactating breasts for a man's one orgasm, then have to push a baby out of a small hole, while most men still can't understand vaginal elasticity."

If you hate how pregnancy that much and how it works, then don't get pregnant.

"We are constantly told that we are too fat, too thin, too quiet, too loud. They want us to be smart, but not be dumb, but not smart enough to offend the men. We're still trying to convince people that no means no. Fighting for our own bodily autonomy and struggling to report own assaults "

Same goes for men and way more... but not going to start listing it out.

[nitsuj86]

Her: Men don't understand because they aren't a woman
Him: I mean, you are telling me, all those things sound true.
Her: It's so easy being a man, you guys have it so easy.
Him: Well, I wouldn't say that's true. There is plenty of stuff that sucks about being a guy.
Her: Yeah right, we have all these problems and your only issue is you have to buy us drinks.
Him: Are you a man?
Her: No..
Him: So you are going to sit here and tell me you know what it's like to be a man?
Her: Well men rule the world...
Him: Answer the question please.
Her: Well, but, etc...

I always find it funny that women want us to validate how difficult their lives are, but then when we are looking for even a shred of that same validation you crave so much. We are met with buts, and ifs, and well that's because.. Instead of just believing the men you claim to love, you would rather one up them.

This is the problem. Y'all want us to listen, but you don't listen to us. You want sympathy you aren't willing to give yourself.

Let this attitude go, and you will be suprised how many good men you find.

[Subarugirl]

I didn’t say it was easy being a man or that mend don’t have their own struggles. I’m not asking for validation and writing about a shared experience that most women have. I have a wonderful man whom I’ve been married to over 5 years. I didn’t ask you to read or even comment on My Take. How ever I’m talking about some of the struggles women face, I’m not saying that men don’t have their own struggles.

[nitsuj86]

Your entire post is a comment on how much women have to deal with (as the result of men mostly), and then you through in a few issues that men have, reduce them to their very base, making them sound stupid and meaningless (to you), while propping up how difficult it is to be a woman, making you look like some self righteous saint, just for the fact that you have a vagina.

- We are also raised in a world where women can hit men, and we are told to allow it, because women "are emotional" and men are so much stronger and should be able control ourselves.
- Where women want to be independent, but still want a man to pay for 90% of their life.
- Where women can commit the same crime as a man, and get less time. Or make up allegations against a man, and never be punished.

See I can do it too.

We live in an unfair world, for everyone. You act like women are saints for dealing with men, but rarely do you ladies look at your own horrible behaviour. And view us in the same light for putting up with YOU. Just saying, give men the same grace you seem to give to women, and you might see the world differently.

If you weren't trying to belittle men, you just would have left out the last comment in your post. But you were trying to prove a point, that all those dumb men hurt you, and women don't do anything wrong. You are just the victim, never the perpertrator or instigator. We get it, heard it all before.

[Subarugirl]

I understand where you are coming from and I am empathetic towards the struggles that you face, how ever I think you are ultimately missing the point that I am trying to make.

[nitsuj86]

And what point is that?

[TyLeeAndPink]

You know what, I agree with you

[Vegasrunner]

@Subarugirl I agree w/ you because very few men would ever want to switch places w/ a woman. Besides the issues you mentioned, women are also coddled and treated like children in the way we deliver information to them.

[MrtoddsWildRide]

@Vegasrunner
Take a look at my response to this. It is a video about a woman that lived as a man for 18 months and her conclusion was that it's harder being a man that women think.
There is actually a follow up to this that I didn't include which is that after a year and a half of living as a man her self esteem was so down she couldn't cope and ended up being hospitalized for psychiatric treatment.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrtoddsWildRide Lol, I'm sure the video is great, however I'm an actual man so one persons limited experience pretending to be a different gender isn't going to hold much weight compared to 40+ years of day to day experience as that actual gender. Not to mention that a study like that is heavy skewed because the women is living as a man based on how she sees men. What did she find difficult about being a man? I will say it is harder to be a successful man, which in my opinion is what a lot of the complaining from young men these days is about. Most teenage and 20 somethings have been raised in the participation trophy generation, meaning that a lot of young guys feel their entitled to hot women simply for existing. Reality woman are simply a by product of a man creating value in himself.

[MrtoddsWildRide]

@Vegasrunner
She was surprised at how women automatically viewed her as a predator if she sat near them in a bar and how she was judged on her financial success and looks much more than she was as a woman. She also found that while men are generally better at bonding with each other than women, we don't constantly build each other up the way women do with their friends. In fact she was surprised by how little men ever hear anything positive about themselves.

[Vegasrunner]

@MrtoddsWildRide Lol, welcome to planet earth. I agree all those are things she experienced in the video are accurate reflections of manhood but that just shows how much energy and effort we spend in shielding woman from uncomfortable truths. Also those fee things aren't enough to say it's harder to be a man look at it from her POV. In her first example she was viewed as a "predator" well would you rather be viewed as that or ne viewed as prey?

[MrtoddsWildRide]

@Vegasrunner
You make a valid point there Sir.
The video, however is actually an interview to promote her book and she does say that she thought it was easier to be a woman.

[Lionman95]

I really appreciate your myTake because it touched me. Though I´m a bit puzzled how to react on it to be honest because what´s your goal with that? Do you want me to act on that? Do you want me to change?
There are parts where I say: "yeah that´s true, that could be changed." But there are also parts that can´t be changed especially the biological ones. Even if I wanted I can´t get pregnant because I´m man.
We can´t switch bodies, yes it´s hard to be a woman and meet up with certain standards especially in a culture where many guys have no accountability and no sense of responsibility.
It´s easy to say it from a guy´s perspective but isn´t there also something honourable of having the possibility and power to bring life out of yourself`? I know it´s not in this modern day because many guys and many people in general treat sex like it´s nothing special but I feel there is more than that.
There is one thing I thoroughly miss in your myTake: Where are the good sides? You´re whole myTake is no negative that it hurts reading it. Where are the positive sides, isn´t there anything positive about being a woman?
I´m if life seems to be so negative because that shouldn´t be the case.

[LogicBomber]

WHAT IT’S REALLY LIKE FOR WOMEN:
You are raised in a world where you are told you can do whatever you want, wear whatever you want and that you can blame all men for your poor choices and actions.

Where parading around half naked amongst a large group of drunken males still magically absolves you of all responsibility of actions and choices, but those drunken males are held responsible for making proper choices for themselves AND YOU while inebriated to the point of black out.

You have endless women only clubs, groups, gyms, funding, housing, shelters, clinics, government programs, health charities, etc

You have a court, society, divorce law, police, and school system bias in your favor.

Most obstacles are removed from your path in life to assist you in feeling “strong and independent” without having to do any of the hard or deadly work men have to do.

You are protected without question mostly by the same group you claim are evil and toxic.

You live in a gynocentric world yet still get to play victim over petty shit like being told to lose weight or being loud.

While using your sexuality as a tool, a weapon, and a prize to manipulate the opposite sex and then blame them when they assume it means you are interested in them as a person.

You are part of the most entitled, spoiled, and privileged group of humans to ever exist on the planet, put away your victim card.

[Subarugirl]

I didn’t realize you had a better understanding of what it’s like to be a woman than someone who has lived her entire life as one…..

[LogicBomber]

Your attempt to minimize the truth because it doesn’t suit your victim complex does not make it less true.
I don’t need to be a woman to see all the benefits your are privy too.

[Subarugirl]

I’m talking from personal experience so it would make sense that your perspective is going to be different than mine

[LogicBomber]

Your “experience” does not change the truth of the statements I made.
You are told you can do and wear whatever you want, you are also raised to blame men for all your poor choices.
You claimed that you are told to “let boys be boys” which in all fairness, society lets “girls be girls” and that means parading around almost naked looking for sexual attention and assuming that it isn’t going to drawn negative attention.
99.9% of men aren’t going to fuck with a female looking for sexual attention, but not everyone is going to be a good person.
If you leave you car unlocked with a wallet on the seat, you “should expect nothing to happen” but you are going to trigger the bad in some people who see it as an easy target and their knee jerk reaction is to take it.
The same applied with females dressing almost naked. Most will leave you alone but the likelihood you are going to trigger the bad in some people... is much higher.

Blaming all men for that and refusing to take responsibility for not making smarter choices to protect yourself (like locking you doors and hiding your valuables) is massive entitlement.
Comparing that to men “feeling used if they're not rewarded for buying drinks” is simply ignorant.

A closer comparison would be more men getting falsely accused of a sex crime because the female wanted revenge, felt next morning guilt, got caught by her boyfriend, etc and literally ruining a mans life.

Because not all do it, but enough do it to make it a problem.

[Subarugirl]

I’m sorry that my experiences offend you, I can understand where you are coming from.

[LogicBomber]

I am not offended by anything. Pointing out the truth does not instantly mean someone is offended.

Suggesting such is a common silencing tactic.

You experience is simply not reflective of the whole of society. Your opinion of why your experience is the problem of men and not your own choices is also because of that gynocentric bubble.

[Subarugirl]

The only people I see here saying that, what I wrote about isn’t true or that it’s not really it’s is men. The women here seem to find it extremely relatable

[LogicBomber]

Yes western women are all live in the same delusional protective bubble and most don’t see how privileged they are.

[Subarugirl]

Yes, everyone living in a first world country is privileged, that doesn’t mean that there aren’t flaws or that bad things don’t happen. That little protective bubble didn’t protect me from getting sexually assaulted when I was 7, nor did it protect my sister.

[LogicBomber]

It may not have, but that same think can apply to many many males who don’t get the privilege of letting someone know and having them take it seriously or punishing the perpetrator the way women are protected.
This is where the priviledge benefits you.
Bad people will be bad people... how society responds to them depends on if you are a female or a male.

[Explorer91]

I totally understand how you feel.
the thing is. There are some countries where being a female is just horrible. Yes.
but let’s talk about most countries here,
Most average females would rather be an average female than to trade places and be an average male. That’s what I believe.
so what does that tell you.
it tells you that yes. It can suck to be a female, it can suck to have to give birth. It can suck to feel unsafe (a lot of the time) and always worry about being assaulted or your home broken into or dragged into a car or raped. It does suck to feel a lot of things that come with being a woman.
but the thing is. Unless a man is good looking, has an okay amount of money, is pretty decent in character (think of the integral men you fall in love with on a tv screen). Unless a man is pretty damn good, he gets no validation in life. He is told he is a loser indirectly. So no, the average man doesn’t face as many risk factors and frustrating things that women have to deal with in life. Like safety factors, birth etc. but average men (so most men) have to deal with getting basically no validation and told they are undesired by society and women. To me, that is a fate I’d never want. To feel like a loser simply for existing. I would never want to trade places with most men.
so yes, being a woman can be hard. No one is denying that. But would you really trade places with most men. We aren’t talking about a tall dark handsome man here. We are talking about the average man.
the answer is probably no. You’d stay being you.
so hopefully that reduces your annoyance.

[ArchaicArachnid]

@Subarugirl You are literally the most privileged group of humans to ever walk the earth. You have no responsibilities, no obligations. You are less likely to be the victim of every type of crime in the United States (including rape and domestic violence), you are not eligible for conscription anywhere in the world apart from Eritrea and Israel (where most women get gender-specific exemptions, only have to serve 2/3 of the time the men serve, and never get placed in dangerous roles), you are not eligible to be drafted, you can choose to work or stay at home and not be judged for either decision, you can exercise your entitlement towards men by harassing them and no one will bat an eye, you can freely violently assault men and know that if they retaliate in any way (and oftentimes even if they DON'T) they will be subject to the full force of the law (according to three replicated studies from 1992 to 2018, male VICTIMS of unilateral domestic violence were 2x as likely to be arrested as female PERPETRATORS).

So yes, I could not give less of a shit about you.

[Subarugirl]

Have you ever been victim to sexual violence, or the draft, I’ve been judged for choosing to work, not sure if you’ve heard about the Jonny Depp case But amber is getting her ass handed to her for assaulting Jonny Depp.. I don’t care if you give a shit about me. 1 in 6 women experience sexual assault at some point in their lives and just because it’s worse in other places doesn’t mean it isn’t bad here either.

[ArchaicArachnid]

In answer to your first question, yes. 7th grade. She was in her late twenties - a teacher. Thanks for making assumptions about me, though.

[Subarugirl]

Then you should be more understanding and compassionate

[ArchaicArachnid]

1. I have no obligation to follow your advice on what I should and shouldn't be.
2. I generally am - I just hate misandrist trash like you.

[Subarugirl]

1. It wasn't advice, it was fact.
2. If you think addressing currant issues that affect a disproportionate makes someone and misandrist you're either delusional or feel personally attacked.

[ArchaicArachnid]

You making normative assessments of how men should act isn't "fact", it's just condescending. Second of all, that's not what you did. You lied, dismissed any criticism, then personally attacked the people criticizing you. You're also being dishonest - Johnny Depp, a wealthy and insanely popular figure is (after 4 years of having his name dragged through the mud without any substantiation) finally getting some redemption as far as public opinion is concerned (overwhelmingly so with men, although most women seem to still be siding with his abuser - not surprising in the slightest) and you think this shows that the legal system is fair as far as DV is concerned? Give me a break. Happy to provide the studies if you actually have an inkling of intellectual honesty and maybe want to be challenged on your prejudice and biases (doubt it).

Why would I be compassionate and understanding towards you? You're a malicious human being. And yes, it is misandry - you're shutting down the possibility that women's abuse is also a societal issue. These incidents are not a "one-off". I've lived it, and heard all too many misandrist harpies react in the exact same tone of defensiveness and condescension as you.

[Subarugirl]

So you disagree that I think men should act in a way that is respectful to others, in a way that doesn’t abuse or exploit them. I’d love to see an example, granted you can provide one.
I’m not asking for your understanding or compassion. I’m demanding not to be assaulted, raped, or objectified. You’re entitled to your opinion, but through my lives experiences by men who would use and abuse me I’d rather the hated than seen as an object to be used.

[ArchaicArachnid]

Women are responsible for initiating 70% of nonreciprocal domestic violence: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17395835/

Male victims are more likely to be arrested than female PERPETRATORS (that means that in a scenario where the man doesn't even fight back, he's still more likely to get arrested than the woman attacking him if there's an arrest made): www.sascv.org/.../carolettaijcjs2010vol5iss1.pdf

Women are 2x as likely as men to believe men are responsible for instigating/encouraging if they are sexually assaulted by a woman. This belief is held by nearly a third of young women (and attitudes are getting worse each year): journals.sagepub.com/.../08862605211062990

95% of reports (yes, 95% - not an exaggeration) of sexual abuse in juvenile detention facilities are female staff (less than 40% of total employees) on male juveniles. Almost all of the reports by female juveniles were of abuse by other detainees, not by staff: www.ojp.gov/.../panel_report_101014.pdf

And here's a great study compiling a ton of other datapoints: www.proquest.com/.../2489734070

Everything you have said has been projection.

[Subarugirl]

And that is terrible, I’m not saying that doesn’t happen but that’s not the point. I have made posts about certain issues that disproportionately affect men, but that is not the topic of this thread. If you want to get into that I recommend finding a question or my take for which it is relevant

[DWornock]

For every assault a woman received from a man, a man is assaulted 100 times by women. And, in the vast majority of the cases, if a woman is assaulted by a man, it is only after she repeatedly assaulted him. The other 10% of women should just leave, but they don't because it lets them play the victim.

[Subarugirl]

@DWornock according to which survey or study… or is that just your assumption. No one is arguing that man can be abuse or assaulted… it happens all the time. But if you are going to make a claim you have to be able to back it up with some sort of evidence.

[MickHardin]

I had an aunty that was "The Boss".
She was totally feminine and beautiful.
She could be anything she needed to be. She was a gifted excellent cook. She owned a restaurant. She had an incredible sense of humor, could entertain a crowd. People remember her for her ability to make people laugh. Hard worker, handled the accounts, made decisions, always able to help us if we needed anything. But she was a gorilla if crossed, she had lawyers on a first name basis, treated men close to her like lepers, always had ways to coerce people to her way of thinking. I always thought she was wasted should have been the president.
She could rage and cry in the same breath and make a fool out of anyone who took her on. I am so glad to have her as an example of a strong woman. So I developed a healthy fear of women. I could see what they can accomplish. She would NEVER be the victim in reality although people thought that she was victimized by her husbands and any other "MAN". She thought all men were dirty minded perverts, but of course she made use of men to get what she wanted. I admire and fear women like her.
But I learned early on, who to stay on the good side of in the family.
AND THEN THERE'S THE VICTIMS!
Women who are passive aggressive and manipulate via victimhood. I'd rather have a woman like my aunty! Smart, strong, funny, talented, skilled, confident, beautiful, and dangerous!

[Violetsunshine6]

u are unbelievable. u are seriously looking down on women who victims? and don't use victims as sarcasm for bitches because there are real victims in world who suffer daily. are u seriously looking down on them? for what? for being the victim?

[gfedcba]

I'm a 5'5 male who grew up with Asperger's, couldn't make friends, get a girlfriend, struggles with financial issues because I lack capacity, much as one with brain damage might, to execute social skills to integrate in a way that would allow me to move forward in current society... but my gender has nothing to do with it, - we've all got goods and bads that come from circumstance, as I'm also far tougher than many of the crybabies I encounter because a statue, or some hurtful word "triggers" them... deal with it, and stop blaming gender for your suffering... there are many men who have lives far worse than many women who are incredibly privileged... gender is not the cause of suffering, life is, meaning if you were a man, short, tall, fat, you'd have other problems to compensate for not being a woman.

Example, I know Asperger's women who get approached on a regular basis, men make it easy for them to have relationships by doing all the work, while I struggle to even get a date, sex, girlfriend, poor me, it's because I'm a man, and women need to be more sensitive to that... now I expect all the women to feel sorry because I'm "marginalized" and "victimized" and adapt themselves to compensate for my issues... go!

[Hellraiser1984]

Biology you can't blame on anyone. As for guys you choose the ones you are with. Not all guys expect something after a date. I would like a phone call when/if you feel like it after a week. You like the bad boys deal with the consequences. There's plenty of guys who will treat a woman right, it's just that in school you treated them like shit and they don't trust you. I've been lied to cheated on and stolen from by women, I've done everything acceptable from a feminist point of view. It's society and the media that has fucked us up as people. Overweight people used to be sexy, because they had money for food. I'm for equality and all but I don't agree with "all men are pigs!". I would touch any woman unless I am dating her. I've been given advice from guys to just start touching them. Under the skirt and on the breasts. I disagree. I think women are far too picky and stuck up these days and live in the pretty pretty princess mindset. You sound very intelligent and independent. That to me is very attractive. Look for someone who is like you mentally. Weight is something that can be worked off. Quiet guys who read a lot and are geeky are usually quite respectful of women. We idolize heroes and honor , not brutalizing women and using them for sex. It's not lowering your standards it's trying out a new group of people. It'd be raising your standards.

[Lookingforthetruth]

Most women are not accountable and always frame a narrative to blame men. Nothing is ever her fault including when relationship fails.

[ManOnFire]

I get the point of the Take, but it's a trite post, to say the least. It honestly is no different than other what-it's-like articles, posts, etc. other Caucasian women have written for the last several decades, along with its side ways jabs at the opposite sex. I literally have read these kinds of things a million times over on other platforms in years past.

There is nothing interesting, new, or surprising in it about what it's like to be a woman, and uses the same feminist-type strategies of highlighting these things as difficulties we should all either be grateful for or sympathetic for. It gives no glory or beauty to women in their positive lights or attributes, it's just your average Rosie the Riveter woe-is-me propoganda with a few lobs at men in it for spite.

I told you what I told you before.

[t-8900]

A lot of this is problems created by women. I as a man avoid bars and night clubs and women today are more likely to abuse alcohol then men. Women body shame each other all the time in an attempt to get a leg up on one another. Who reads all those idiotic magazines on gossip and fashion? Are men doing it? No, women perpetuate that themselves. If a woman doesn't want to be 9 months pregnant she can always refrain from having sex if she's too irresponsible to follow a birth control regiment strictly and take a 2nd/3rd form as needed. No need to continue baby genocide for that. If she wants a good reputation she should conduct herself in a way that earns said reputation. That's how men gotta do it too.

[SnakeBoop]

I absolutely love your first sentence is "told to calm down" and all the men triggered are basically saying it XD
I also love how they're quick to point out "but these people have it worse" like thats meant to invalidate you or how anyone else feels. Imagine how extra triggered they'd get if we told them African folks were starving while they complained how unfair marriage/divorce is for men XD
Its interesting, but then this site is full of them it was inevitable they'd feel threatened by a mytake.

[SnakeBoop]

Aww I even got blocked by babygirl for pointing out that whole "rape and shit" also happens in western countries... 🤣👌👌

[Still-alive]

She blocked me too and deleted my comment for calling her out. What a coward lmao