Girls, Ladies, stop breeding with beta males

[Sixgunsound]

“Girls aren’t being taught to look for strength, and boys aren’t being taught to look for virtue, and it shows”.

Ladies, do any of you actually want a soy swelling metrosexual blue haired androgynous weakling who can’t change a tire or operate a firearm? A boy who depends on you to bring home the household income? One who hides behind you when a door or window gets kicked in? One who expects you to get out of bed and go fix it when the heater quits in the middle of the night in winter? You have the power to choose the course of human evolution, choose wisely.

[Bethany22]

When that's the definition of beta male, no that's not what I want. But the beta male that does everything for me and who still loves me when I have wrinkles, I would want someone like that.

[Sixgunsound]

Is it not possible for a masculine man to still love you after a life of being a good provider and aging himself as well? I’m just trying to understand why you think a man who spent his whole adult life with you wouldn’t love you when you’re both old. Is commitment truly lost in your generation?

[Bethany22]

I hear that alpha males don't have to have committed relationships. They get to go out with girls in their early 20s when they are well into their 60s

[Sixgunsound]

That is a Chad not an alpha.

[Agape93]

I don't buy into this alpha vs beta vs Sigma horseshit. If you peak my fancy, I don't care. I've dated chefs, scholars, soldiers, music lovers etc.

[MzAsh]

I think what you’ve described here is an extreme. Most men with beta qualities are actually pretty pleasant, hot, and preferable.

[Sixgunsound]

Because you can so easily dominate and lead them? I don’t get it.

[MzAsh]

No, they make better long term partners. No woman in her right mind looking for a long term relationship wants to constantly have to deal with some “alpha” male wannabe who’s always into himself and his masculinity trying to impress others and be “dominant.” Not appealing.

[Sixgunsound]

The civilization with the most alpha males does the best. Look at the Saudi’s telling America to sit down and shut up.

[MzAsh]

Describe what that means. What does it look like to “do the best?”

[Sixgunsound]

Survive the longest with their values and cultures intact.

[MzAsh]

That highly depends on what values and cultures those are.

[Sixgunsound]

If you knew war was coming against an enemy who had a reputation for raping and enslaving civilian women they captured, would you rather Have men of the culture of the 1940s or men of the culture of the 2020s defending your freedom and dignity assuming both were of service age during the fighting?

[Sixgunsound]

I’m assuming you fight for yourself either way, but which version of masculinity is more likely to stop the war from getting to you in the first place?

[MzAsh]

If you assume I fight for myself, why would you ask that question?

[Sixgunsound]

Because you aren’t entire civilization.

[MzAsh]

I’m doing just fine in this civilization now. I don’t need men to be more masculine.

[Sixgunsound]

On the current trajectory, the crisis of masculinity will lead to the civilization that you claim is doing just fine falling.

[MzAsh]

It’s been in need of a good overhaul for a long time.

[Sixgunsound]

In what way?

[MzAsh]

To expand gender norms, grow choices and opportunities, making it possible for men and women to co-collaborate as equal-value partners.

[Sixgunsound]

I never said we aren’t equal, but we’re not the same.

[Sixgunsound]

The west is wasting time on distractions while the east is preparing for or in some cases already at war. We don’t have time to be fighting amongst each other.

[MzAsh]

I understand we’re not the same, but I think things can be balanced. Through history, women were reduce to much less than they’re capable of.

[Sixgunsound]

Have women ever in human history had it better than they do in the modern west? I don’t mean individuals I mean as a general principle.

[Sixgunsound]

How does punishing the future fix anything in the past, or really accomplish anything but petty revenge?

[Sixgunsound]

I thought liberals were supposed to be more enlightened and above that?

[MzAsh]

There’s no punishing involved, not sure what you mean there. Things have gotten much better for women. Now women need to step up and fight against abortion laws.

[Sixgunsound]

Usually announcements of victim status are followed by calls to punish me because people who look like me did something hundreds of years ago. You are correct you did not use the word punish.

[Jess_D]

Whenever a guy starts spouting this alpha, beta, sigma nonsense it’s SUCH a huge red flag.

[LilyByte]

alpha , beta, and sigma males is just a cringe term lol

[pewter_moon]

Perspective is quite different from a woman's point of view.