Men shouldn't trust women who use excessive amounts of makeup. You would be wise to find the women who look good without using more than a tiny touch of makeup or less. A woman making her face appear much different than her natural look is the same as a man who works a low end job lying to a woman and saying he has a high income. And you know what women will say about that man? That he should be arrested if he uses the lie to get something from a woman. Some women will say that they are so hideous without makeup that they need a lot just to function in society. That's fine but don't ever use that fake look to get a man or you're crossing the line into fraud territory.
Alright. So what I'll say is this: I don't think the makeup thing is entirely bad, if it's done lightly. Now, some of those women in your post do look absolutely horrible in their 'natural' look I have to say honestly - which for all we know might actually be caused by excessive use of it, but there are other things they can do to improve that without makeup, but these methods are generally going to take time and effort with consistency. Like change in diet, special formulas to clear up a lot of that awful acne or spots some of them have their faces covered in, and some Chinese medicine would do them a world of good.
You also gotta keep in mind that some women absolutely do cake up like that because they really are very insecure about their natural look, even if they don't look nearly as bad as the ones you posted. That's something they have to work out on their own.
And the truth is that there are much worse things women can do apart from this makeup argument. And we also can't forget that there are still men who will have sex with an ugly woman just because she presents it, and these men won't care about makeup at all. Doesn't work for me, but an ugly woman becomes beautiful to a lot of guys if she's alone with him and gets on her knees to suck him or outright asks him to fuck her.
Yes. Pretty much any woman on earth can get sex... but serious relationships or marriage to a quality guy (not a user type) is totally different. I agree with what you're saying... definitely there are underlying reasons why a woman needs tons of makeup. Apparently almost all women think they need at least a tiny bit of makeup. A woman could have naturally red lips... yet think she needs red lipstick. It's crazy from a male pov tho.
Well, that's true. And I've seen tons of girls who don't need makeup but will wear it anyway. So yeah, I think it's just some kind of wiring in the female mind to have it even when it isn't necessary.
Makeup can be a tricky thing... people are kinda sleeping on it.. some women look significantly better with it and some women only look good with makeup... And I think most women cover a tired or unhealthy face with it... that's why I'm always curious to see the girl without any makeup... And why girls who don't wear makeup have such raw sultry attractiveness to them... If a girl looks pretty without makeup she's basically a goddess lol..
It's funny when guys hate on women who use makeup when complaining about women who hate on guys (not necessarily saying you're doing the last part). I wouldn't say that income and a woman's appearance is comparable since you can actually change your income substantially over time but there's not much a person can do appearance beside taking care of themselves.
Well to clarify, I have zero problem with a woman rejecting a guy based on his finances. And yes, people SHOULD take care of themselves. I would argue that not taking care of yourself is often a symptom of having character (flaws). In the old days people didn't have the luxury of being lazy **but** they also had an easier time getting healthy food. When I was a kid we got insane amounts of exercise compared today and it was considered normal.
The thing with taking care of yourself is that it is not enough, and physical appearance matters more for a woman than for a man. A short guy who makes good money and is physically attractive will still more likely be rejected in favor of a taller guy with those attributes. A woman who is naturally a 4 or 5/10 will still more likely be rejected for a natural 9/10. Make up is just used to give these women a chance.
I exclusively date women without makeup. Never had a relationship with a girl who didn't look good natural. But I have dated more average looking women not all were like smoking hot. So it really doesn't help their chances at all.
" physical appearance matters more for a woman than for a man" -- This is absolutely true. Ultimately, men are judged based on their accomplishments. No straight man would pick one woman over another based on whether she has a certain job/degree/IQ. Although some people mistakenly believe otherwise because they ignore that a guy is more likely to date someone he knows than a random stranger so of course if he goes to school with a woman it's more likely they might date.
I have known & seen short guys with sexy women. Seems to me that women like to say what they don't want but at the end of the day, they absolutely will take the 4'9 guy who is an executive at a corporation over the 7 foot tall guy who works at McDonalds.
I also disagree that a man will reject a 5/10 in favor of a 9/10. Yeah, that seems to be the case because men are visual and men enjoy the physical. But almost no man & certainly no quality man is going to pick the 9 over the 5 if the 5 has better character. He's not going to take the 9 porn star/only fans (closet prostitute), stripper or woman with 5 kids over the 5 who has a low body count and seems likely to be able to be loyal. Nope. Not when it comes to serious relationships anyhow. ==>>>>> Which is all I really care about, by the way. If someone only cares about having 'fun', I guess the math works out differently. <<<<<====
That's the thing, @bamesjond0069, those are the women you've DATED. It could also just be that you haven't met any unattractive women or just that you don't date them. similar to, @hahahmm, i agree for the most part. Most women don't work on only fans or pornhub, many are just regular people. if a guy had to chose between two women who were equally good personalities, the more attractive woman would "win". I'm not saying this is wrong for a guy to have standards (it's not) nor am I saying that average women NEVER get any dates or anything, all I'm saying is that appearance is what guys usually value up front and women, like anyone, want to make themselves more attractive, more competitive in the dating market. Good personality and selfcare helps, but when a more attractive woman has that too, you're at an disadvantage.
@letuswaltzforthedead "if a guy had to chose between two women who were equally good personalities, the more attractive woman would "win"." -- True. Typically people don't really have that choice tho. Although the catch is that until a guy is experienced enough to know what he shouldn't want... accidents can happen. Same with women. In the old days it was harder to have an accident because people were less free to select from 1 of 50 different lifestyles. Similar to how back when women did not have the freedom of 'body acceptance' then almost 100% of them were fit and in shape. It was not even debatable or a question to ask.
Yes, the dating market is competitive. The mistake a lot of females make is to think that they can spend their 20s and 30s playing the field & having fun. That's living like your goal is to be single/not able to stay loyal. People who aim low in life usually get what they aim for. But lots of women (and men) don't seem to understand this. Then they wonder why they can't find a higher quality man/woman. Women would be wise to find a high quality guy as early as possible because men tend to increase in value with age while women decrease (usually) so the math works out in her favor when she's younger. Now some women have argued with me in the past & claimed, "I am not into older men! No woman wants an older man. You must be into kids/20s!" Blah, blah. Nah, just saying how the math works.
Hah? So you're telling us that you justify cheating? Not thanks! Just like @bamesjond0069 I also require the girl I'm dating to not wear even the slightest fake-up. Like you said, short guys would be rejected as well so there is also something we cannot control and change. So just get over it and play with what you have!
@letuswaltzforthedead I know what you meant. I just kind of had to "hammer once on the nail and also once on hoof". Gotta give it to the guy when he's right, gotta give it to the lady when she's right. The flip side of what I said here, is in my own reply I posted. Truth of the matter is that there is a lot frustration coming in from both sides. Some of it I think is because of overthinking stuff and unrealistic expectations (again, in both sides.)
@Xylem1992 that's true, sorry if I came off as harsh. People still just want to try being the best / most attractive partner they can be on the dating market so I agree there's a lot of overthinking.
actually it's all about confidence. Someone can be more attractive even if her face and natural look isn't wow, and someone with both good natural looks in paint or without it can also be amazing because of her confidence- yes- to wear makeup like she owns the runway, or none at all like she's Jane with Tarzan. In general, it's all about self-acceptance and how a girl can have an artistic talent without neglecting the fact of the matter as wel.
@Asad1ONE1 actually not true, though they don't wear makeup they can still get a facial and some actually do add a touch of foundation or natural color eye shadow.. depending on their job title for example if he's an actor or representative !! :D
I think the issue comes up when women let the ego get out of control due to the status makeup brings. I think that comparison of lying about income and makeup was spot on. Both are masking reality. ... And changing looks can be done with exercise and to stop eating crap that gives acne, so I would argue that can be changed just like income can. That brings me right back to my first point though... The makeup scenario can quickly make a woman act far beyond what their demeanor should be or would be without the makeup.
Ladies dont waste your time on boys that call women clowns, enjoy your sparkly eyeshadow and mascara, if he can be fooled into thinking that pink sparkly eye lids and foundation is what your skin actually looks like, he's not worth it.
Oh, but there's a reason why 99% of the money flows to women and not from women. You'll learn how the world really works when you grow up. It's not that men need to prove anything. Lol.
@suzzieQ also men just have a different POV on life so when I talk about how most money flows from men, I'm not saying I would never give money to what amounts to homeless beggars. Just that we want to be very, very selective.
@suzzieQ You must be proud of yourself for misrepresenting his actual message. It's not that make-up in itself is bad. The point of this Take is to tell men to stay away from caked-up women. My girlfriend also uses sparkly eyeshadow (not a lot) and mascara, but she does them in a very light way that don't alter her overall face.
Is it really so hard to understand that caking up your face to a point that you just look like a different person is unappealing to men? Imagine if a guy starts injecting himself with steroids or makes himself out to be taller than he actually is. I bet you wouldn't be excited about that either. But somehow, a man is a "boy" when he says that he wants a more natural-looking woman?
@suzzieQ I actually do have a job and other things to do besides read here. I've only had time to read around 1/3rd of the replies to this MyTake so far. You can google. One article is titled, "Why are only 3 percent of alimony recipients men?"
@TruthBringer Then they could just not approach or peruse women they are not attracted to instead of complaining and whining about it. If it isn't appealing to men, big deal, they can find someone who is appealing to them lmao. Wearing make-up doesn't hurt anyone except maybe the person wearing it, so if he doesn't like it, then he can go after someone he actually likes.
@suzzieQ You made a good point. Indeed men should not bother with woman who cake up their faces, but in stead just turn the cheek. But then again, why are you and your fellow females in the comments getting angry when a man (Hahahmm) is preaching literally the same thing?
@TruthBringer I mean by their own admission they are complaining about women doing something they dont find attractive when they could just be focusing on the women the do find attractive instead of whining about the ones they aren't attracted to. If they dont like it, they could just find something they actually do like, instead of complaining about what someone else choses to wear.
@suzzieQ That's something women do all the time as well with a whole washlist of reasons of things they dislike about men. The point of this Take is to tell men to have some standards and don't let some caked up face deceive them. You can see it as "complaining", I see it as spreading awareness to let men (re-) evaluate their standards in terms of dating.
Whereas you clearly took offense in some way to throw it back at the author. And your fellow pink users down here got stepped on their toes as well.
@TruthBringer lol spreading awareness about makeup? lol I am pretty sure the men who dont like make up are already aware, or are you implying that men are not intelligent enough to recognize a caked-up face?
@suzzieQ Nuance is key, dear Suzzie. No, I'm not implying that men aren't intelligent to recognize whenever a woman has too much make-up. The point here is that men still give these women more attention than they should and some of them even get mad when the real face doesn't match the make-up face. Men should pay attention to women who stay natural or at the very least know how to use makeup as an enhancement to their natural beauty, rather than change their entire facial structure. If men in their collective do this, then women have less reason to cake-up their faces. So a win-win for both parties.
Either you really aren't getting the point or are you're deliberately trying to misunderstand me. So which one is it?
@TruthBringer then you have to pick up on social skills a little better to understand the difference between getting triggered and someone that just doesn’t agree with you.
@suzzieQ Nah, I've dealt with plenty of users here for some time to recognized who is triggered and who isn't. You went on ad hominem retaliation by calling men "boys" for simply thinking women who cake up their faces more than they should being like clowns. This is a tell-tale of a triggered person because if you weren't triggered, you could have voiced your opinion in a mature fashion with elaborative arguments rather than going on a Ad Hominem retaliation. Sorry Suzzie, but you've exposed yourself, no one else did it for you.
@TruthBringer well your are more than welcome to your assumptions. If the term boy is triggering to you I will try to refrain from using that terminology in your presents.
@sussieQ Ah yes, projection at its finest. Sweetheart, I don't get triggered by that, because I don't feel spoken to. That's because I don't identify with it. Perhaps its best for you to skip Takes like this as they clearly step on your toes for you to throw a hissyfit in the comments ;)
@TruthBringer This is a tell-tale of a triggered person because if you weren't triggered, you could have voiced your opinion in a mature fashion with elaborative arguments rather than going on a Ad Hominem retaliation.
Lol you really are a parrot, aren't you? Seems like you've ran out of anything of validity to say and now feel the need to parrot everything back at me. Which goes to show you don't even know what words like 'projection' mean. Happy Googling and keep on reaching!
I know you're attention deprived as your daddy didn't give it to you, but I believe I've given you more than I should. I'll give you the last word since you seem to desperate in having it. Have fun reaching and parroting, sweetheart 😘
@EzioAuditore027 hahah mascara isn't going to automatically make an ugly person beautiful, any more than it is going to make you die any earlier than you would have anyways. What you think mascara is? LMAO witchcraft?
There's nothing worse than "fake". Makeup is a tool that females of various creatures use to attract the males. The problem arises when so much make up is used that changes a women's features so drastically she is totally recognizable to her natural/real look. A woman has every right to wear make up, yet has to be aware of what is happening. Some of the above photos show how much. False advertising.
Now "Height" criticism. 5'2 - 157.5 cm...5'10 - 177.8cm..., 6'' - 182.9 cm Some women will judge a guy on height. So which what height is "too short", 5'2, 5'10, 6'+ ? Say a woman is 5'10, which is a tall woman, yet today is more or less the norm. A guy who is 5'2, that by any means IS short. 5'10 is An average height for a guy these days, not what would be a short height. Something that a guy cannot change, also it has always been said, "It's about the personality". Or is it? Also not about a woman's breasts, looks etc, that it's about her personality. Look up here.. Yet there are members of both sexes that do the obvious.
I'm 5'10, have been told i have a nice personality (good SOH), i dress very well, can carry on a more than a GOOD conversation. I prefer dark/red hair, yet i will not discount say blonde hair. Nothing against blondes, just like the darker shades. Yes i have my lets say i have for a better phrase, blank spaces.
Yet i can count on 2 hands the amount of "must be 6'+". Both in social circles & online. Having said that that is not all women, though a good amount.
Then there's the making conversation.., both sexes (doesn't make conversation, or yes, no, etc. How the hell are you supposed to chat properly based on that? So ladies & gents, talk !
The dating/mating game/life is not an easy one & there are people who won't budge. Bas*ards/b*tches. From what i hear dick pics, i was astounded when i heard that.
It's a try to be reasonable thing. I don't proclaim to have all the answers or know it all. Merely what i've noticed, thoughts, opinion. Right or wrong. Everyone have a nice fantabulous week coming week. Ian
Wow, the number of triggered women in the comment section here is astonishing! They don't seem to understand that a woman who alters her face drastically is equivalent to a man lying about his height. It's a 'light' version of a cat-fish.
Clearly it's hard for them to understand that it's not necessarily that make-up is bad, but the way some women use it that makes men a bit more wary about them.
The obvious message here is, don't use make-up in a way that it alters your looks drastically. Make-up should be an ENHANCEMENT for your natural look, not make you look like a complete different person. My girlfriend wears make-up very lightly and she still looks gorgeous without it.
Is this so hard to understand?
So we're not allowed to have a preference for more naturally looking women, but you are allowed to set standards about things that a man has no control over (such as height)?
I swear reading some of the pink comments here make me appreciate my girlfriend more. It shows she has actual common sense
I get what you're saying, I do think sometimes the foundation and eyelashes can be too much sometimes. But a lot of times guys don't seem to really notice or care unless it's super dramatic make up. When Pam Anderson was in playboy do you think men cared or even noticed she was wearing make up when fantasizing about her? Probably not. Truth be told if you pay attention to everyday women, most of them aren't wearing a full face of make up. I see women everyday at work and other places wearing little to no makeup at all. Most of my female coworkers don't wear make up.
I think because we see a lot beauty ads on TV and models wearing makeup in magazines etc. People think the everyday, average women is walking around with 20 layers of cake face on but it's really not true. Every now and then I'll see a girl with too much going and too long of eye lashes but for the most part i see women with no make up on. I stopped wearing make up years ago myself cause I'm just to lazy to do anymore.
Buyer Beware ‼️ Perception, in the form of power, prestige, and inner confidence is what drives both Beauty and Cosmetics. Ugly on the inside but pretty on the outside, as mirror reflection conveys, can be therapeutic in the Feeling it provides
Ultimately, it is gender interpretation and obviously we should, if required, hose off all dust, dirt, and grime as well as inspect for scratches and dents upon the body before Purchase or Acquisition. Having spent some time around pretty people make-up has effects. To a woman…when a fit and well made-up woman enters a room, whether it be on a runway or Femniazi Business Pant Suit boardroom…THAT woman is the Dominant as perceived by the Women. The guys are fluctuating in between HOT and prestigious or more respectful towards that powerful beauty.
The reactions are self-evident especially if I can sense and feel it. Make-up is Transformative and it’s status and use can convey the psychological fragility, character, and personality of the woman. At the same time, ALL adults like to be pretty or handsome. Lots goes into Cosmetics but too much assumption and judgment is also quite revealing…
I do agree in a way but then again, any man who goes after women who "cake" themselves in makeup like the ones above, is on the same crazy level as those women imho
I hate nowadays' trends how every gal has the same eye makeup, laminated brows, fake nails, fake freckles, just SO much foundation.
I personally prefer to let my skin breathe and just touch up my eyes a little bit. Why darken my brows? Why is everyone darkening those damn brows? I HATE it. They make it seem like having light brows is a flaw...
I also must add that men say they prefer natural looking makeup or no makeup at all but when you do that, you're not trying to be beautiful for your man enough.
Sorry for the wall of text. PS. I'm a fan of lipsticks especially reds and pinks, very feminine and not really "shady".
There's a theory that most women will start to look identical because they only look at the same few role models. And those role models look at each other. Unless dealt with, everyone will become a botox/plastic surgery/caked up Kim Kardashian.
Far as, "I also must add that men say they prefer natural looking makeup or no makeup at all but when you do that, you're not trying to be beautiful for your man enough" -- What a lot of women don't get is that if a guy is really into you, he believes you're at the right level. If you get too lazy (in various ways) then he will start to not believe that but makeup isn't a litmus test for that. I'd say staying fit, eating right and building good character are worth 1000x more.
In any case let me be clear that the make-up issue is actually only up to the lady to decide and judge. My own taste goes nevertheless always to women as natural as possible, whatever they look like ;0)
Still, I know make-up to be a real art in competent hands. The same is true with parfumes. Only a very small percentage of ladies are able to make the right choices, and both, make-up and parfume, sadly will always be lies hiding the real person. I mean that given the choice I will always prefer someone showing themselves as they really are. No one is perfect ;0)
My wife wears zero makeup and has completely long, natural hair. She sometimes wants to dye her hair, but I remind her that I'm married to her and I think she's beautiful the way GOD made her. Anything like makeup and hair dye would be for others and honestly wouldn't make me happy.
In college I dated a girl who literally took an hour everyday to get ready. Pathetic.
I was with you and was having a deep moment until I seen Tyra Banks. Can't be disrespecting the hoomie... lol make up do change a lot. I have something I say Date them not their make up , and them having on make up changes their self-esteem so their personality would be or seem different or give them more confidence so basically when you only deal with them and their make up you are not really dealing with them... and not for them to be attacked because, would you want them to stop wearing makeup. Most around me make sure you see them without it on so it's not a trick. But it touches in a deep place to be a tad bit more careful... lol
men are extremely shallow. why do you think women use makeup?
you can say that you want a girl without makeup. If all girls stopped wearing makeup, you would only find 10% of the female population to be attractive. No typical average girl would be dating.
I only like wearing makeup because it’s fun sometimes. I don’t do it everyday. I think makeup is fun to play and experiment with. And the only reason why I would put foundation on is because I’m a bit insecure of my red spots on my face
why do think 90% of all men go for younger women? there are 49 yr old men on here who want to go out with girls as young as their daughter's age such as 18.
if all women stopped wearing makeup, you wouldn't be dating. nobody would be dating. you would be complaining about how the world's women are so plain and unattractive.
because truth is, if men weren't shallow, no woman would be using makeup. Women will not be spending thousands of dollars on makeup, skincare, plastic surgery, brazillian butt lifts, boob implants, fashion.
reality is, a woman's worth is based completely on her appearance.
vast majority of women spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on skin care, makeup, fashion, shoes. nobody spends that much money if they didn't care about how they look. nobody spends that much money on something they just want to play with for a few days out of a year.
I do. I buy some of my makeup from drug stores and my clothes from thrift stores. I do it because it’s fun and I like to express my style with clothes that I wear.
And I found a boyfriend when I never used to wear makeup and I barely do. It’s literally just concealer and light blush. You can’t even tell I’m wearing makeup. I’m only 17
if you were ever 18 years old, you would know these kids don't know anything at that age. besides the fact they're also typically very immature and clueless
the legal age is different in many different countries. In UK, the legal age is 16.
so just because you call something the legal age, it does not mean you reach full adult maturity.
Prior to the vietnam war, the legal age was 21.
today, there are also a lot of things that you cannot do unless you are at least 21. One of the most common is : drinking, and becoming a police officer
Back then in the 1800s, there were 12 yr olds drinking alcohol. It doesn't mean its right.
In Africa, there are 12 yr old girls being married off to 60 yr old men. It doesn't make it right.
But when you're 49 years old, an 18 yr old is still like practically a child.
18-21 are actually the years where kids are being trained and developed into adults. This is the time where they are oriented to how the real world works and its a crucial stage where they develop their maturity.
its rare and very uncommon to find an 18 yr old with the maturity of a 30 yr old.
I was seen as "mature" at 18 too. But I secretly knew I wasn't. I knew how to behave mature but there were certain things that I secretly did that showed me I really wasn't.
Vast majority of 18 yr olds are just clueless kids who are very immature and irresponsible.
Same thing with the US. Prior to the vietnam war, anyone under the age of 21 was still seen as a child.
The only reason why they changed it was because they rn out of soldiers over the age of 21 so they started drafting teenagers into the war. After the war, these teens demanded the right to be adults. If they could fight a war, then it means they should be treated as adults.
But it really does not mean that 18 yr olds are mature enough to be adults. I don't see them as adults.
To me, the age where people become adults is 21- where they actually have the maturity and experience to be adults.
Someone aged 16 or 17 and accompanied by an adult, can drink (but not buy) beer, wine or cider with a meal at a licensed premises (except in Northern Ireland). But it's illegal for people this age to drink spirits in a pub anywhere in the UK, even with a meal.
[Yet there is no porn star below 18. Why? Because legal age internationally is 18.]
In Nigeria, 11 is the legal age where girls can have sex. so it really does not matter if she is 18 or not. If you can do porn in nigeria in the age of 11
[If someone is 18, there is no such thing. It is legal for a 80 year old to be with 18 year old.]
so you don't think there is anything wrong with an 80 yr old dating an 18 yr old? well that explains why you think 18 yr olds are the same as 30 yr olds.
18 is adult. However between 80 and 18, there is too much age difference but if 2 people have the wills to marry, no one else can do anything about it since both are seen as adults.
When my father married my mother, my father was 28 and my mother was 18.
And no, marriage is not always by one's free will. There are still 18 yr old girls who are sold as brides to 80 yr old men in 3rd world countries. No 18 yr old girl would want to be dating an 80 yr old man. The only reason why an 80 yr old man would marry an 18 yr old kid is because of sex.
you can pretend and lie that you love an 18 yr old as an 80 yr old man. Anyone with life experience would believe you. We will just see you as a sexual predator.
you can pretend and lie that you love an 18 yr old as an 80 yr old man. Anyone with life experience WOULDN'T**** believe you. We will just see you as a sexual predator.
First, I think that there isn't really a turning point which a person is full jacket mature. One always keeps maturing all over their life. That's why many people in their elders are the happiest.
The question is when they are mature enough to make their own choices. And probably the answer is sooner than later, because it's through experience when one usually figures out things.
Second: who shall decide if being X years apart is adequate or not, a random individual or the people involved? Whose morals shall prevail? I think it's those of the people involved, because the opposite is pretentious.
I think that when both individuals are dating, both individuals should at least able to relate to each other. You're not gonna be able to relate to each other if you're dating a child. A 18-19 yr old has the same empty brain as a child, they have no life experience. They don't know how the world works. Their sense of humor tends to be childish.
I'm 27 and I have worked at a university with 19 yr olds. Trust me, I don't find the same things that 19 yr olds find funny. I find their sense of humor to be extremely childish and immature. Most of them still have mommy and daddy buying them shoes, begging their parents for the latest PlayStation.
You would have to wonder what a significantly older person would have in common with a kid.
You would find yourself explaining things to them because they aren't oriented to the real world yet. They can't relate to anything you're saying because they don't have any life experience. You likely wouldn't even find the same things to be funny due to different levels of maturity. Stuff you found funny at 17 , you will no longer find funny at the age of 40. why? because people mature throughout life. Life experiences also alter your perspective on life.
If you're in your 40s, the youngest that I can possibly see you have something in common with is someone in their late 20s. Someone in their late 20s is mentally developed, has life experience and understand the real world. When you're referring to an 18 yr old- this is still an immature kid who knows absolutely nothing, still has their parents feeding them, probably never worked a job.
And the only reason why anyone who is far into adulthood would want to date these kids is because they're just after looks and sex. Or they're looking for someone who is naive and easy to manipulate.
I worked in security at a university for a number of years. All the security supervisors refer to the undergraduate students as "kids". While we called the older graduate school students as "the adults". And there is a reason for that. Because 18-22 yr olds generally are irresponsible, entitled, disrespectful, immature. We were tired of dealing with their bullshit.
The age of majority is 18 years in all EU Member States except for Scotland, where children are considered to have full legal capacity from the age of 16 years.
but you will date a 16 yr old as long as it is legal.
you would also date a 14 yr old if it is legal.
you don't care about love or emotional connection. all you care about is how young you can go for the sex. as long as you're not put in jail, you will be happy
A 32 yr old woman have a lot in common with a 32 yr old man. Both are at an age where they want both want the same things in life: get married and start a family. They've both enjoyed their single days having fun. Both similar in maturity so they likely would find the same things funny. Both have enough life experience to relate to each other.
why do you think vast majority of people marry someone close to their age? Vast majority of marriages around the world are less than 10 years apart.
A 32 yr old dating a 32 yr old is not a relationship where one person knows everything, has played the game for years while the other party knows absolutely nothing, naive, easily manipulated, immature and cracks kid jokes all the time
nowadays, you will never find an 18 yr old who wants to marry and immediately have 3 children with a 40 yr old man. Maybe like 5% of the 18 yr old population would do that. Most 18 yr olds are having fun, studying in college, exploring new friends, making out with guys, dating.
Large age gaps usually don't work. Its only a matter of time when you're still young and you find yourself married to a senior citizen grandpa. Its only then you realize you made a mistake. You can't grow old with someone who is already old. These types of marriages tend to rank divorce more and rank lower in marital satisfaction.
Thats why when I'm looking for a partner, I'm careful to choose one no more than 10 years older than me.
it doesn't matter if you didn't study. vast majority of 18 yr olds are more interested in studying in college, making new friends , exploring new hobbies / interests than getting married.
@Vivaldi Don't worry, I never finished university and even then I'm doing great. I always said I will be doctor honoris causa.
@Haha456 Saying that men shall be ashamed because of dating young women is bullshit. Men are naturally attracted to youth, as youth is what warrants offspring. That's how it is, if you don't like it that's your problem. Like saying a tiger mustn't eat zebra.
Men want women that are young and innocent. Not old farts at their 35+ whose fertility is decreasing rapidly. Deal with it.
The problem with many women these days is that they want everything without giving anything. They want the privileges of traditional women, with the best males, when they are just entitled whores.
A fantasy that gives an illusion of control they don't have. The truth is: many physically attractive women are unappealing to me, because of their mindset.
If there's grass, there's mach. And if you have a bleeding pussy it means you are ready to make babies. The rest: opinion.
Actually most older men I've seen do have a limit on how young they are willing to go. But these are decent older guys who understand that dating should be about love and connection. Not go as low as possible as long as its legal.
If the legal age was 16, you would be happy to date a 16 yr old.
Men liking sex has nothing to do with them wanting to be serious.
If I ended not being with a girl it wasn't because I wanted to take advantage of her, but because afterwards I discovered she was a completely shashy mess. Then my fantasy of having a relationship with her banished.
I guess that usually happens to other men, that they discover the true nature of the lady. Then lady plays phony saying that men take advantage of them, when the truth is that life around those women is SUFFERING AND DESPAIR.
a person at 18 is immature, knows absolutely nothing, not oriented to the real world, cannot relate to anything you're saying, needs you to TEACH and explain to them everything so they can understand.
I've been 18. So I know what it is like to be that age. Everyone knows what its like being 18. You know what its like being 18 too. You're just in denial because you have a secret obsession with teenage girls. Classic pervert, just like the rest of the other low quality men on here.
Men are allowed to have imperfections and women are not. Men can have a combover, dark circles, light eyebrows, blemishes, eyelashes that are invisible without mascara etc. But women have been pressured into wearing makeup to conceal all their "imperfections" even if it's just having light eyebrows, that we are not used to seeing women looking as human. If we are exhausted nobody is supposed to be able to tell but men can even use their beards to fake a sharper jawline!
@es20490446e If you look at old makeup ads from the 1910's you'll see they're not They were created by men to benefit men and to sell more products. It's been happening for centuries and ramped up when wearing makeup became more accepted... by men.
I agree that we should look for women who are naturally beautiful but I must also say that these pictures and clearly not the same woman before and after.
Some of them are, I've seen the transformation videos, but they all did some makeup to look even more bad in the beginning, like drawing on fake eyebags and stuff.
I think the majority of men will agree: natural look with a very little make up like eyeliner is more than enough. A plastered face is not beautiful, it's a fake and we don't like it.
If a woman has some skin problem (like the girl with pink hair) instead of spending tons of money in make up she should spend them in a esthetician or a dermatologist. Men aside, it's for her own wellbeing.
Makeup can be a good thing, in moderation. But some women feel more confident being more expressive with their makeup. I don't hold it against them, it's just their thing. Sometimes they may have blemishes that make them self conscious and makeup covers it. I prefer just a light touch of makeup when I wear it :)
we do unfortunately live in a looks-based world so I can't really fault them for trying to look attractive so they can receive the same level of treatment as their natural beauty counterparts.
that being said, it shouldn't be one-sided as society has made it out to be.
I think a lot of these are just bad lighting and bad pictures.. Cause I mean these women cannot look a that horrible.. LMAO.. Kylie just needs some good face cleansing for that acne, and Cardi B just needs to get some sleep.. 😂.. The first one looks bland, but not like the rest.. Oof.. Yeah, I steer clear of a woman who cakes herself up with makeup..
I mean these are exaggerated examples, but I see the point. Exactly as women do, men should look for good genetic material for their offspring. It just makes biological sense.
But I would warn people against taking this point to the extreme, as quality of genetic material isn't based on appearance alone.
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Some of the women in those photos are obviously not the same person, some obviously are.
But regardless, many women obviously take makeup waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too far these days. It's just fake and ugly.
Nope, those are real comparisons. There's a trick women can do with makeup to make their nose look a different size/shape. Lightening is amazing. In fact a lot of what photoshop does you can do just with lights and makeup. Think of it like a magic show. Go look up pictures of Naomi Campbell with & without makeup for yourself. Or find pics of the Kardashians without makeup (I mean, they're fugly anyhow but there's still a big difference).
i don't normally trust clowns but if they are nice i might and she does her clown makeup nice. i'll post an example in my next post to show you what i mean
Knew a woman who had a very sexy natural look yet she literally became obsessed with looking like a circus clown (nose included). Was some dating tv show eons ago where similar happened. A guy was always wearing literal clown makeup. His date told him if he took off the makeup she would go on a second date. He looked at her like she was crazy & said: nope.
Ok so I hate makeup just as much but I don’t agree to be insensitive. Yes when I see makeup I think of clowns but that doesn’t make a girl a clown for wearing it. And it definitely doesn’t effect how I trust anyone.
Society went downhill when people started caring more about people's feelings than anything else. There's a connection between the lack of self-respect & responsibilities today and society being unable to impose rules. They call it 'shaming' now.
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