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What is the definition of a High Value Man? (Page 3)
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If the reason for the break up is him & he did something u forgiving, then no he's not high value
*unforgiving
@Nazgol That has nothing to do w/ value. That is simply a coping mechanism used by women to excuse failed relationships.
the definition of a high value man is a man that has more characteristics that a subject finds desirable than other men by comparison.
Ahh your respect is left up to other men of value. And who values them? Seems like a cult of stupidity.
@OddBeMe Until you release that you follow the laws rules regulation and trends of those same men.
Well your stupid list is a bit vague.
I make roughly that
Provides value to society and other high value men. - I make money and not a blight on society. ?
Is recognized by other high value men as a peer or potential peer. - Who are these other high value men I need to seduce?
Has a network of other high value men. -Again, whose dick do I need to suck to get into the club?
Is publicly visible at the LinkedIn level. - not a high bar. Glad it ain’t FB. Because I hate it.
Just sounds like bullshit label like “alpha male”. When really it’s just be a good guy.
@OddBeMe Ahh I see your confusion. I didn't create any list. I thought you were responding to me but it seems as you are not.
Ohh, it was a reply. My bad.
But still you have a lot of dependence on what other “HV men” think of each other. What are the traits of a HV man?
@OddBeMe No worries, you're not the 1st person to make a mistake.
But you do value men based on other men’s opinions, no?
@OddBeMe Why do you think that?
From your words this time I think…”definition of a HV man is pretty simple. "It is a man that is respected by other MEN of value"
@OddBeMe Excellent, now you understand. Do you believe being respected by LV men would make a man HV?
I don’t believe anyone’s opinion has any effect on my value.
@OddBeMe TY I'm glad you shared that, then that means you don't live in reality. Do u work for a living, have you ever has sex, do you have any friends?
Yes and my education and service I provide for pay is important. But that’s a shallow look at a “high value man” unless it’s only about money.
I get what you’re saying and maybe half agree. But I think the flip side to this line of thinking are the incels. No one likes me I must be a low value man….
@OddBeMe Call it whatever u need to help you sleep. The reality is that these are all tangible examples of value, and success at least in 1st world capitalistic countries depends on one's ability to bring value to the market place. This is literally taught in every 101 college business school. The fact that u don't like it does not change this reality.
As for "incels" I first learned about this term on GAG and in my opinion only goes to validate my point. They probably are low value, u know how we know. Name on famous, rich or successful man that identifies as an incel. Finally this theory is pretty common however because we cater the world more to woman's feelings now, we have men like you attempting to make bad faith arguments about subject matters thar are clearly factually incorrect.
Not so fast. By some, the definition of a HVM could apply to Hunter Biden.
@Senator754 Whell he's actually a great example of why the definition exsist. He is not seen as someone of value by other men of value.
And yet I feel of higher value knowing this.
@OddBeMe How you feel and what's really are two different things.
How do you know other high value men? What if your basing your HVM off LVM’s opinions?
@OddBeMe That is an excellent question and an easy answer. Next time you are around your circle of friends ask yourself If those men have tangible accomplishments that are recognized as having a positive economic, or political impact on your community. How many people do they employ, are their any foundations that they run, what offices do they hold. Value is pretty easy to measure in a capitalistic society. If the answer is no, then your circle is probably not that high of value.
How can you determine that not knowing their economic, or lying capabilities? Your system is full of holes.
@OddBeMe I think I understand your confusion. You're ignoring the word "tangible" If your friend was the 13th pick in the NBA draft, a city council member, or bank president their accomplishments are going to be public record. Also if you're someone of HV why would you associate w/ liars? Does your town have a mayor? Does your district have ward Boss, who owns the most successful restaurant near year? Has anyone won any awards if so for what? If you're having a difficult time understanding personal accomplishments it may because you or your circle haven't accomplished anything noteworthy. (Just to eliminate the standard female rhetorical delusion, where u prestend these titles are the sum total of value, holding these titles alone does not equal HV, rather they are important components of men of value)
Chuckle, we’ve had some pretty shitty city councilmen, pro athletes or presidents. That’s my point. Trump is a LVM and was potus.
@OddBeMe Lol, grow up. If that's your point then its not a valid one and it proves mine. By definition all of these men had to compete against other men in order reach the positions they are in. If you're going to make the claim that someone who ascends to the highest office in a country is LV, then what does that make every other citizen in the country? Same anology can be said for the other professions that were mentioned. This is exactly why the definition is must be valued by other MEB of value. You personally haven't accomplished anything close to those achievements which explains your warped POV, you're attempting to use the female metric which is more about how you feel, which as people who read your remarks can see is based off Irrational, emotional, non tangible statements. Proof being you're only to make the claim of what someone isn't. Of you don't believe that the leaders of the free world, City officials or 1% genetic miracles that make more than 99% of population are HV please share the name of one HV man? Don't worry I'll wait.
No, it’s the illogical “high value” metric you fcks created. You rely on other men and status to feel high value but have no freakin clue if they really are of value. That’s my point.
Just being a councilman doesn’t mean you’re high value. Politicians and CEOs actually are more likely to be narcissistic aholes. That’s how they got the job.
@OddBeMe If by "you f***S" You mean society, then yes society has created a system where men are valued based on what they accomplish. Ironically you continue to validate my point as the Definition is a man seen as HV by other men of value. The fact that you personally don't know any men of value speaks more to the lack of value you personally bring. As you have pointed out, the percentage of men of value is very low, which is why 90% of woman chase us. Average men who make excuses for the way the world operates are pretty common which is why you're left to chase the remaining 10% w/ the other 80% of average men. You're attempting to apply female metrics "narcissitic" to male standards. While you may not like how someone makes you "feel", it does not take away the tangible value that they bring. Which is why people are selected for high paying positions in the first place.
I laid out the illogic of your metric. Take it or leave it. But when some conman says your high value just think twice. :)
@OddBeMe You wrote some words however there's little to no logic in them proof being you were unable to answer the question of what man you believe has value. Anyone reading this understands why. Making the claim that anyone who makes you feel bad is of low value is literally the opposite of logic, or maturity for that matter.
I really don’t understand your issue, unless you’re handicapped.
You rely on other high value men to tell you you’re high value. But can’t possibly know they’re actually high value. That’s how cons take place. You woulda lost all your money in Theranos.
@OddBeMe I understand your confusion. You're working off a random statement never mentioned by me. You also don't seem to know or understand the definition of value. Value tangible, your "can't possibly now if someone is HV" is patently false and based more off your own personal emotion. By your POV a humble homeless man is HV, yet a arrogant billionaire is LV, while that may be an interesting POV for a child. Adults understand that there is no logic to that rationale, furthermore claiming that you don't know if a public figure is HV is contradictory since being a public figure alone is a component of HV. Again I understand that this is difficult for you to understand but that is because you yourself probably aren't HV. Once you actually accomplish something then you'll have an easier time recognizing HV men.
“Being a public figure alone is a component of high value”…what? Now I know your logic is idiotic. Good luck with your shallow delusion.
@OddBeMe Is that so. If that's the case please name one HV man.
No way I can know honestly. A high value woman is my wife.
@OddBeMe Lol, TY for proving my point, you dont even know what a HV man is, probably because of your own lack of value. Yet you can question the definition. This is literally why the definition is written the way it is. Being deemed HV from u is irrelevant because you yourself are lower value, however a man deemed valuable by other HV men is HV. TY for sharing this.
Hey I get it! You’re an incel trying to feel better. And you come up with this illogical, self indulgent “high value” system of bullshit. Carry on wayward son!
@OddBeMe TY, I'm glad I could educate you. It will take work but the good news is that men have the opportunity to increase their value so even someone like you could one day become a HV man.
I’m high value by proxy because of my high value wife. That’s all I care about.
Fck your incel bullshit. But hope your weekend is going well!
@OddBeMe Lol, now that was funny. Next you're going to tell me mommy makes u HV too. Now it makes sense why you've never met a HV man. A man who's value comes from one woman is probably the lowest of value so you're never going to be in a position to be around HV men, much less garner your respect. A woman's value is tied to the level of man she can retain. If she can only retain you then by definition she's low value. I mean someone breaks into your home you're going to cower and have your wife defend you? Lol.
Yes having a wife is foreign to you guys.
@OddBeMe TY for sharing however, it doesn't really have anything to do w/ the conversation other than to explain your POV. TBH there's not that many HV men in the world so it's not that surprising that you don't know any. This is why women gravitate to men of value more.
The convo was over when I proved the illogic of “men of value” BS. So now I’m trying to find the source of your anger. And it’s involuntary celibacy.
@OddBeMe Correct you did a good job of validating why the definition of a HV man is being recognized as value by other men of value. As you admitted, you are not a HV man therefore you not understanding is congruent w/ the definition. TY for validating.
I couldn’t care less about your “HIV Man”. But I’m interested in dissecting what makes people create this bullshit. Luckily your involuntary celibacy is obvious. Sometimes it’s tough to diagnose.
Not with you tho!
@OddBeMe Allow me to help u find your toungue. What you're interested in finding something that validates your POV. Your feelings are hurt because the term HV exsist and as you said you're not one. So instead of identifying the obvious you are forced to create a narrative is palatable. That's why u hurl what I can only assume are insults that are centered around lack of sexual options. Which ironically proves that even you realize that part of being a HV man is having sexual options. How many women have you had sex w/ in your life?
Oh I’ve identified the obvious. You rely on shallowness as “high value” whereas I don’t. It’s simply a difference of opinion.
@OddBeMe Rely on whatever you like, unfortunately because as you said, by no tangible metric would you be considered HV.
I’m just glad you incels are striving for something. I woulda thought losing your virginity but hey, whatever makes you happy.
@OddBeMe Ahh so you agree a man's ability to bang multiple women increases his value. TY for sharing this.
No, just pleasing one woman would do the trick.
@OddBeMe so pleasing multiple woman means a man is exponentially more valuable then the man only capableof getting one.
Well I was thinking we might be at an agreement. HV is more about what others think of you. Not what others do or have “accomplished”. Make it more a “Wonderful Life” scenario.
@OddBeMe If you don't accomplish anything then we already know what others think of you
So why not leave it at that? Why base your metrics off others opinions?
@OddBeMe Lol, unfortunately my friend that is impossible. How would you get into a good school? Get a job, apply for financing of aby kind? Etc?
Over six feet tall, makes over 6 figures, is fit and handsome. This guy can bang any girl (married, boyfriend, whatever) without a problem.
@KrakenAttackin Those are all good characteristics however the definition is that he is respected by other men of value. His height doesn't matter but the 3 are important.
There is no definition. There's only populistic babble.
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There is no such thing, just like there are no high value women. Only idiots admire these stereo types.
@Zackareen Evidence proves otherwise. You could argue that there's no such thing as a HV women because a woman value is tied ti the value of man she can retain.
I've already talked about what objectively makes a man high value but of course individualism gets brought into this by someome all the time
A man that doesn't give a MHO to another that ripped it from another man!
Being yourself is the best, a wannabe is always bad.
You are not immortal you are going to die one day. I choose immortality and eternal youth over High Value any day.
Immortality, I don't need to eat/sleep/shit/disease proof/bullet proof/radiation proof/injury proof/dissection proof.
None. but assuming your inner-city church is life is cringe and funny.
This is just dumb.
sounds logical to me.
someone i care for and respect,
Just a guy that has a lot of money
We can go for lunch so good bit
THERE isn't ANY