m not a bad looking guy, I keep in shape, I have a nice car, just got a mortgage on a 3 bedroom house, I have a good job that makes me good money, savings in the bank, i have am investment portfolio, I have a university degree, I enjoy 3 foreign holidays a year, I like to eat well in nice restaurants, I love wearing tailored suits and designer clothes and love to enjoy the finer things in life. Obviously women see me as a catch but I see women as something that will stop me from enjoying my life snd I point blank refuse to get involved romantically with any woman ever as life is too good for someone to drag me down. This is a lifestyle choice and chicks should accept that I dont need any woman other than for sex emotionally or otherwise and have no desire to be enslaved to any woman ever through the institution of marriage.
MGTOW is a valid life choice
I can't accept MGTOW as a valid life choice because om bitter
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Feminism and the sexual revolution, a woman's right to choose movement and the advancement of contraception has brought about more casual consequence free sex on a plate for the asking and all it takes is the trappings of wealth and success and a the price of a steak dinner to have a date's ankles over her head. This is the best time to be a man and to be MGTOW.
Why do chicks go Batshit crazy or all passive aggressive when they find out I'm MGTOW during dates or after a one night stand?
While some of the images are a little extreme, I will say that there is no problem with your lifestyle. I've started to ponder and from listening to talk radio and wondered what are the benefits of marriage for men? People want to quote the traditional ways where their grandparents or parents stayed married, and we should too. However, this is a new century where women no longer want that traditional way of life (housewife). Women want to be equal, be married, expect chivalry from men, but they refuse to act as a proper housewife. In today's lifestyle, you can have a relationship, have a child with a woman, and be committed. Why do you need to sign your life on a dotted line? Marriage benefits women; when a man marries a woman, the relationship is at the apex. Everything else goes down hill from there. Women will tend to gain weight, cut their hair, and be more controlling. As a man, you have to compromise and when you come home, you have to take care of the kids and still take out the garbage. After a while, men will get tired of this lifestyle and file for divorce. Then, bam, half of his assets will go to the woman. It's the perfect insurance for women. If you make it known to these women that you just want a friends with benefits relationship, that's fine. However, statistically, the longer a man stays with a woman the more likely she will want a commitment.
"you have to compromise and when you come home, you have to take care of the kids and still take out the garbage."
LOL @ the crybabies. What kind of an irresponsible douchebag "man" doesn't take care of his kids and live in a clean environment? If you need a woman to clean up after you and take care of you, you're not a man, you're a stunted boy in a man's body. Real men get shit done when it needs to get done and don't whine about it.
Real men don't get taken advantage of; real men does what is right and fair. If she is the housewife, she should take care of the household; taking out the garbage is part of that. It's not about being taken care of, it's about contributing to the efforts of the relationship.
"If you are going to go your own way, then why aren't you going your own way?"
The same general idea as "How can I miss you when you won't leave?"
Generally speaking, people go on dates to seek possible relationships. You won't have one so you should not date. (Yes I mean this. Going on a date, ANY DATE, for you constitutes false advertising.)
Still, for you, there is at least the possibility of one night stands. In that case, nobody is interested in making small talk or in finding out about the other person. Just have consensual sex and leave the personal manifestos out of it.
An important part of actually, successfully being MGTOW is to not seek women as an audience for your ideas and decisions. You don't rub human feces all over your face, keep your shit to yourself.
Basically, bring mgtow means, you hate women, so, why are you fucking them, and or talking to them on a site like this etc... Do you Ben have a mother, qa? What does she think of all this? or how about your father, or grandparents
Dave society wants me to settle fown but I choose a different path why is it chauvinistic for a man to engage in causal sex but when a woman does its liberating and empowering?
Why do you need validation from women on your choice to be a MGTOW? If you truly felt that way, then it doesn't matter what they think. Not everyone will like your lifestyle choices, but they are your choices. Only you have to like them.
I personally have no problem with a guy who is a MTGOW. But obviously I'm not going to waste my time with him. I want a relationship and marriage and kids eventually. If he doesn't want that then we are just not compatible. I wouldn't go crazy if a guy told me he was a MTGOW. I would just be like "Oh, okay. Well it was nice to talk with you and meet for coffee. I want to get married someday, obviously we are not compatible" and end it like that. No hard feelings because it is what it is.
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I don't need their validation I just need them to stop going batshit crazy over my lifestyle choice.
Your post is riddled with contempt for women and your poll options are bullshit.
You're not going your own way, you're being a whiny brat that wants to rub his lifestyle in other people's faces because you were scorned by some woman/women.
This is why MGTOW are not taken seriously even by many men. You're not taking a stand against selfish women who treat men like shit, you're acting like the very same women you reference in your mantras, but disperse your hate across the entire gender.
Your poll options reveal just how much of a juvenile person you are and this sort of attitude is at the very core of MTGOW.
You lost all credibility when you envoked Godwin's law.
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Why so much hate. I dont want a relationship ever with women just sex as thats all I really need women for. Plenty of single women make the same choice but you would aplaud the as independent empowered single women.
Nowhere in my entire comment have I referenced relationships or telling you to get into one.
I'm calling you out on your thinly veiled contempt for all women. I don't care whether you get married, have a relationship or one night stands for the rest of your life. Your obvious hate of women is the problem.
A man going his own way doesn't parade his despising of women, he simply goes his own way and does his own thing. You, on the other hand, have chosen to employ petty shaming tactics with your poll options on those who disagree with your choices.
You're showcasing your lifestyle choice as a superior way of life and are not so subtly insulting anyone that disagrees with you. Then playing dumb, as though you don't understand what you've written. This points to either trolling or a genuinely infantile character.
Your just another hater upset because i dont need women for anything other than sex and what ever else you choose to think to justify your own crooked judgmental opinions is your business. People like you always need someone to persecute because they choose a different lifestyle from your own.
Again, I am not condemning your lifestyle, only your attitude towards all women.
I no longer believe you actually live the luxurious lifestyle you claim to. Someone so thick couldn't possibly hold down a decent job to be able to afford it.
So I conclude that you're simply trolling. You obviously ignored everything I wrote and are trying to envoke a reaction by parroting the word "hater".
If I was trolling maybe. MGTOW is a growing lifestyle choice ( just look at Japan) were men have decided no to everything accept sex when it comes to women.
Yeah, you're definitely trolling. Every reply you give only solidifies that conclusion.
If you want to troll well, you have to argue the points your opponent made with poor logic and anecdotal evidence, not entirely ignore everything they have said and ramble about the same thing over and over.
Fail troll verified. Or just really thick. Take your pick.
End of the day im doing nothing wrong so why the hate? Is it because I dont live the way you and society expect me too. Im young free independent man who doesn't need a woman (except for sex) for anything so you need to deal.
Well im happy in my life and see no reason why I should be shamed into living differently just because society say otherwise. Men dont necessarily need a woman for anything.
See, the problem with MGTOWs is that it's filled with bitter men that are pissed at feminism and women in general. They're the equivalent of feminazis. "If you're not this, you're wrong" said the MGTOW and the Feminazi. Ironically you're both the same type of people fighting for the total opposite.
If MGTOW did actually fight for men and not just trying to cry about feminism then someone will take them seriously, but so far I can only laugh at how pathetic they are. Oh, and MGTOWs just do a disservice to us men, just like Feminazis do a disservice to women.
And good for you man, but you don't have to be bitter towards women if that's your plan. I don't understand why you have a negative view about them when you're supposed to go "your own way", technically you shouldn't give a fuck about women and feminism.
If you're "going your own way", why are you going on dates and having one night stands with women?
I have no problem with men choosing not to date, have relationships, get married, or whatever. That's your own choice.
I dislike MGTOW specifically because its based on sexist/misogynistic ideas.
If women are getting upset with you after finding out that you're MGTOW, they either a) have heard of MGTOW and realize that it's a group of misogynists, or b) feel lied to or mislead about your intentions because you're probably not being honest about the fact that you're only interested in sex.
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I dont see how MGOTOW is any different from feminism who are mostly sexist and anti male. MGOTOW is all about empowering men to take control of their own lives rather than what society says they should do. A girl who has sex on a first date is also interested in sex only and if not she's impressed by material things ie successful handsome male in a well made suit who picks them up in an expensive car to take them to a fancy restaurant for a steak dinner then takes them to his pad for a night of pleasure.
Well, you and I obviously have a different view/experience with feminism, but if you wanted to make a comparison, MGTOW would be closest to the lesbian separatist movement, which even most feminists think are extreme and crazy.
I've had sex on the first date, and it wasn't because I was only interested in sex, nor because I was impressed by material things (hell, most of the time it was with poor college students who had nothing but student debt to their names). Most people have sex on the first date because they had a good time and are attracted to the other person, not because they only want sex... unless maybe you met at a bar/club or something, but picking someone up at a bar isn't called a "date".
After reading this paragraph i am beginning to think that you are much more impressed with yourself and your well made suit than the woman you allegedly take out.
The problem is that your group generalizes the whole female population. You're blaming the whole group for the the handful. And being that the handful could still be a lot of women, the MGTOW acts like every single relationship is going to start and end the exact same way. Women who would like the guy to have a decent job doesn't mean they want you to be a billionaire. Lots of women just want to know that the guy can support himself. Doesn't mean she wants to leach onto your dollars. Because she probably has her own.
First of all: when I see these pictures I just have to laugh at how pathetic us humans are. I just shake my head sideays because it's so immature. Especially comparing a young 'feminist' actress to the likes of the KKK and Hitler. My god, the stupidity on that one is just mind blowing hahaha.
First of all there are so many women out there who are totallly pro NSA sex. There are many women out there that have the same mindset as the men in the MGTOW movement accept for the hating the other biological sex part which men in the MGTOW do have. I know plenty of beatuiful women, who have a great job, who love to travel, who love to spend money, who have no wish to settle down and have children, who don't care for monogamy, who enjoy having NSA sex with men etc. As long as you're honest and not deceiving there's no issue with your lifestyle. The same way men don't like to be deceived and lied to, women don't like it.
It's all about intentions, honesty and respect.
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The MGTOW people that you are talking about are generally sad old divorced guys with a genuine grievance who are just venting on the Internet about the ex wife taking away his kids and preventing him grom seeing them while still looking for child support, alimony and mortgage payments meanwhile he's in a roach infested motel eating crackers and cheese everynight and she's getting tennis lessons with the money he earns banging her tennis coach so maybe give these wronged men a break. There are plenty of manhating women out spewing venom about men.
I don't get your reply. We've all been through shit in our lives with the opposite sex ( did you know women exist who have been dumped while pregnant and forced to be single moms without receiving ANY support from the father of the child?) but there's no need to demonize 50% of the world population for it and spread hatred. This also applies to misandric women's groups, wherever they are.
But you're reply has not much to do with being upfront about your intentions, being honest and respectful. Like I said there are more than enough women who go their own way as well. As long as you're honest and not deceiving there's no issue with your lifestyle. The same way men don't like to be deceived and lied to, women don't like it either.
If you don't ever want to get married, that's cool. Don't expect women to want to mess around with no commitment though. Most people (not just women) want a life partner, someone they love and care for, that they can rely on. You won't provide that, so you won't get the other benefits either (sex, fun, companionship, etc).
Those pictures are not a good way of describing a chosen lifestyle that you want people to accept. You're only making yourself look like an entitled, bitter, pretentious jerk. Really all you've done is insult women, and ask why they don't want to just fuck you. It's worrying that you even need to ask.
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They do want to fuck me and im ok with that its they who get upset when I don't want a second date. Entitled? Entitled to what exactly? I date twice a week that usually means sex twice a week as it doesn't take much to get most chicks into bed, (thank you feminism). I intend to be a bachelor as it gives me time to pursue a career and all my other intest and I dont want to deal with the baggage women bring thats not me being hateful just truthful. I like my life the way it is.
You're basically saying that you're ok with hurting other people, so long as you're getting laid? And you're not seeing how people would denounce that lifestyle? Like I said, you have every right to decide whether you marry or not. These women need to know that, though. If you have any respect for them, and yourself, you need to stop treating people like objects.
All I see in these comments is just repetitive hate, and for what reason? Besides the usual accusations of "misogyny", it literally seems like people are angry at this guy for being good looking and going his own way. Can anyone here explain to me without using hatred or buzzwords why you hate this guy so much? Good lord this entire website needs to be sedated.
Thanks for the downvotes. The replies here remind me of girls that have slandered me for not dating them, as well as one that threw coffee in my face last week because I wouldn't go on a date with her. I see the same type of entitled bitter anger here.
Your idea of a lifestyle choice is symbolized by a male figure flipping off a female figure. Does that sound respectful or appealing to you?
I thought MGTOWs were all against dating and stuff anyway so they could hate women in "peace"
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He's flipping off the institution of marriage but in a manner thats respectable to his manhood and we dont hate women we just don't want to be tied forever to one.
I don't get that message from what you chose to share and represent you at all.
I get "we hate women and anyone who dares to speak in favor of them"
You can choose to not get married or not see it as a choice for yourself right now without insulting an entire gender. There are many women who choose to not get married, but they don't put guys down when they talk about it. They just say "meh not for me"
Why do your decisions have to all include putting women down?
Besides I'm not talking about their behavior. I'm asking about yours. What are YOUR choices?
You're a successful guy right? Do you become successful by saying "but moooom they *made* me do it!" Or do you become successful by owning your decisions and accepting personal responsibility?
im pretty sure I am not mistaking the stuff you post is a put down. I am just hoping , good catch that you obviously are, that your arrogance doesn't bite you in the butt sometime in the future.
If you're gonna swear off women, SWEAR OFF WOMEN. Do it! Don't be chickenshit about. You dived into that group, you stand by those beliefs. That means, no sex for you. That means either be gay or find you a sex doll. Don't "swear off women" and then try to fuck one just because the porn got boring. It's like when i hear my vegan friend trying to make "alternative" chicken. If you're gonna be vegan, COMMIT TO THE LIFESTYLE THAT YOU CHOSE. She's like "i still like the taste of chicken, but i don't wanna eat a dead animal." SO... she likes the taste of murder but she isn't exactly fond of murdering... yeah, no. Same thing applies with this group. If you're gonna stay out of the pool, there's no point in trying to dip your feet in. Stop being a bitch, and commit.
Because your way is just whining at people. It doesn't sound like you're really "going your own way" it just sounds like you're trying to use reverse psychology on women to make them like you more and since they aren't showing you attention when you do that you just run back to them to rub it in their nose hoping it will work.
New Flash: They don't care that you are "going your own way" and they're annoyed you keep coming back to them to tell them all about the crap they don't care about.
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If you're going on dates, why do you call yourself MGTOW? That doesn't make any sense to me; it goes against the very essence of MGTOW.
Feminism and the sexual revolution, a woman's right to choose movement and yhe advancement of contraception has brought about more casual consequence free sex on a plate for the asking and all it takes is the trappings of wealth and success and a the price of a steak dinner to have a date's ankles over her head.
Because that's something that should be disclosed earlier - so they know what kind of a person you are... I wouldn't want to go out on a date with a smoker and just find out then. Or with a part-time male prostitute.. o. O
Be honest. Then they won't react as crazy as you described.
Never heard of this term before, though. It's guys taking care of only themselves and seeing women solely as sex objects and not actual people? Or something else?
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We see them as people we just dont want to be tied down to a relationship, marriage, kids etc there are plenty of chicks like this out there who have the same attitude although most change there minds when they are approaching thirty and there biological clock is telling them eggs need to be used before the go off.
Yeah, every date everyone has ever been on. o. O This is why people should make a deal to be honest. It may be difficult, and no one wants to hear the truth, but it should be there.
I had a woman be 100% honest on a first date after we slept together she told me she wanted to have my babies and get married. Called her a taxi straight away.
Maybe because they're wondering what the hell you're doing on a date with them if you don't see a future with them or if you don't want a relationship.
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People just don't date for relationships they also date to have a good time and for sex. Plenty of women do it. If all my dates were looking for was a relationship with me then surely it would take more than my charm and a steak dinner to get to drop them panties.
Then maybe they misunderstood you and thought you were more serious than you really are. If you ask someone out on a date, you should probably mention that it's strictly casual, otherwise they might get the wrong idea. If a guy asked me out, I'd take it as a sign of him wanting to be serious. Unless he asks me out on tinder or something. Which I don't even have. You don't seem very charming at all tbh.
A date is a chance to meet and talk to a sexual partner before having sex. I go on dates that are casual all the time. Dates are fun and I like putting a smile on someone's face. Also, it's a chance to make sure we have chemistry before having sex. A date =/= relationship.
@Foxkaa first off congrats on finding an answer of mine that's probably over 2 years old! Second, I know that dating =/= a relationship, but considering how many people take dating seriously and the fact that they use dating as a tool to find someone to get into a committed relationship with, it's always best to mention that you don't want anything serious very early on. It's always good to figure out if you want different things. And if you date around casually, then that's completely fine, as long as you don't string people along on purpose just because it might make things easier for you.
If you're really going your own way then what's the point of even having an ONS? Why bother even seeking sex from a woman? Why bother calling yourself "I'm a MGTOW"?
If you were going your own way and really didn't want company from women you wouldn't even need to give yourself any label. You would be happy, minding your own business and go single without needing sex, nothing at all.
Woman seek men for resources. By going MGTOW you denying them resources. You are telling her that you are not going to provide food , shelter , and protection. This is a blow to her primal instinct. As a man you are her resource providor. Nothing more.
mgtow for life. women are the same with me. always wondering why im not married or something. the real reason is i don't like slutty women. they disgust me. also try finding a women in this day and age that's decent looking that hasn't fucked at least five guys. fuck all that.
Here is where I don't unerstand some of you MGTOWs. If you're against paying for women and what not then why do you take them out for dates just to fuck them? Wouldn't hiring a hooker be cheaper?
Being as you come off more misogynistic than compared to being MGTOW I cannot take you seriously. But eh fuck it, you go your way, and ill go mine.
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If a woman does the same thing she's impowered and liberated "you go girl". Im happy why would I wamt to be miserable like all those poor married guys.
I don't give a shit if its a woman or a guy. Then don't get married, i'm not in charge of you, why the fuck would I want to do that if I am happy with who I am? MGTOW is good when there isn't a bunch of Shogunistic jackasses involved... it attracts that type. Feminism attracts the female equivalent, feminazies or whatever you want to call them. Regardless both sides are utter morons if they are made up of those people.
If you were MGTOW you wouldn’t be dating. Also women who have self respect don’t wanna sexist man who hates all women for being born as a woman. Despite the choices she’s made in life. Good or bad
Feminism is fighting for women to be treated like a person and have the same rights men have. That m (whatever it's called) stuff is hating women because we refuse to be treated like crap anymore
you're your own man, brave, and forthright, but here you are anonymous
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It's just the way the world is now. what do women want? What do men want? Lots of guys would settle down with a nice girl that doesn't cheat or have tons of guys on her phone.
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