Girls, As a feminist what's your take on male disposability (please stick to this topic itself and don't start a gender war) ?

[Anonymous]

From war Fields, to sinking ships, etc. Men have always been the majority of the deaths. In 2017 why is it that we still value a woman's life more than a man's when we all want gender equality... It not like the population is under threat so the over populated world doesn't necessarily red more offspring thereby giving the argument to prioritize women's lives in disasters... Not just men even boys are twice as more killed by parents from age 0-5 in USA... And there's the known fact of 4 times more men commit suicide compared to women... What's your opinion as feminists who want equality for all genders on this issue on men?
(Feel free to answer honestly)

It's a grave issue and steps need to be taken to prioritize men's lives just as much as women

It's not an issue to me

I consider women's lives are more valuable then men's lives

[Anonymous]

Women are also all the mothers in the world, and we don't want to see our children die, especially for stupid reasons. But it is the same patriarchy that puts men into more dangerous positions. It is the same patriarchy that puts men into untenable emotional situations but leaves them no outlet for their emotions, because "crying is for sissies" and all the other gender norms that keep men silent about what is bothering them. Men aren't disposable. The poor aren't disposable. Women and children aren't disposable. Everyone deserves a life free from violence. That is the kind of world feminists are working for. But men need to work on these things too, it's not feminism's job to fix all things that are wrong ever. Feminism has specific goals, and not every problem in the world is something we can correct.

[Asker]

Read the question properly I asked femnists opinion on it I never said femenism is gonna fix it

[Opinion Owner]

I answered your question. First sentence. Then I elaborated on what we feel the cause of the problem is. And discussed where the solution might lie. So yeah. I answered your question.

[Asker]

Well I minded of wanted to know your opinion if someone u know man/boy who fell victim to male disposability.. what's your opinion on something like that happening

[Asker]

by the way if you don't mind can u pls vote

[Opinion Owner]

I think my opinion should be pretty clear from what I said. And, vote on what? I vote in our elections and on laws, lobby my representatives, and work on campaigns.

[Asker]

Wow... U must really hate all men

[Opinion Owner]

If you got that from anything I said, you don't know how to read.

[Asker]

its weird that u keep calling me a child... fyi i'm a complete supporter of feminism and want equal pay for women and i do speak for and go to feminist rallies... and so do so many of my other male friends... the only thing that bothers me at times is that how women never speaks on or protests about men's issues even though there are so many men who do it for them that's all... by the way i only ask this question coz last year i lost my brother to suicide and it astonished me how little to no one cared for his death... yet a similar incident when a girl tried to commit suicide made the headlines of the college paper and feminist rally was held for depression that young women suffer from... by the way even i spoke at that rally for that young lady (she's okay now) ... but it did hurt me to realize how no faculty (mostly women) couldn't care less about the death of my brother

[Opinion Owner]

I didn't call you a child. But I did speak directly to what I think is one of the problems perpetuating male suicide. I see how the same systems I am trying to dismantle also hurt a lot of men, especially poorer men, and men of color.

[Opinion Owner]

And I am so very sorry your brother ended his life. I am sure it feels terrible for you and your family. I'll remember you in my prayers.

[Asker]

the idea of male disposability was not an issue for me but after seeing how little to no faculty (80% were female faculty and Dean) were least bothered about my brother's death seemed very sad to me... and he was a good man who was excellent if not brilliant in his studies

[Asker]

the girl who tried to commit suicide was a drug addict yet for her the college was given a day's suspension and seminars were held for depression in young women by our principle... that really hurt me that how no one cared for my brother... that's the only reason i asked this question

[nevermoregirl7]

You are stating things that are really out of control of anyone. And I am honestly lost on where you are going with anything. Are you arguing we pay more attention to the well being of women? You are only stating things with no back up. How is overpopulation and parents killing kids related? As for the suicide number, I am not sure how current it is, but one theory is men commit suicide because of pressure from society in being the right kind of man.

As for your brothers suicide. I am very sorry, but I still feel like we are not getting the whole story. Is there a facebook link or maybe news story about the two incidences?

[Asker]

Don't worry about it for the past few weeks I've understood enough about women... whatever I experienced is mine to deal with... by the way it's society as a whole I guess and not just women... Regardless I've seen and known enough to understand... I can honestly say I'm no longer a feminist neither will I be associating myself with anything related to it (btw it has nothing to do with the question I asked on GAG... It's just personal experiences)

[nevermoregirl7]

You still confuse me. But it really doesn't hurt any of us if you are not a feminist.

[Astoriana]

As men have made the rules basically forever, I think you ought to take it up with them. Y'all decided that women's only use was to be baby factories. This is on y'all.

[Asker]

But what do u feel about the male disposability?

[Asker]

Male disposability ranges from young boy's to men.. I want to know women's opinion in that

[Astoriana]

My opinion is that you did it to yourselves.

[Asker]

Y u so angry... Even someone u love could be a victim of Mae disposability I'm just asking your thoughts on such a thing happening to perhaps a man/boy in your family or someone u know

[Astoriana]

Oh child, you are very unfamiliar with anger if you think I'm angry.

[Asker]

I never expected a honest discussion would turn in to this hateful behaviour... Oh well

[Astoriana]

Oh child, your emotions have gotten the better of you. So sad that you will never admit it.

[Asker]

its weird that u keep calling me a child... fyi i'm a complete supporter of feminism and want equal pay for women and i do speak for and go to feminist rallies... and so do so many of my other male friends... the only thing that bothers me at times is that how women never speaks on or protests about men's issues even though there are so many men who do it for them that's all... by the way i only ask this question coz last year i lost my brother to suicide and it astonished me how little to no one cared for his death... yet a similar incident when a girl tried to commit suicide made the headlines of the college paper and feminist rally was held for depression that young women suffer from

[Asker]

this idea of male disposability was not an issue for me but after seeing how little to no faculty (80% were female faculty and Dean) were least bothered about my brother's death seemed very sad to me... and he was a good man who was excellent if not brilliant in his studies

[Astoriana]

Women attempt suicide more often and have a higher rate of depression diagnosis than men. Men succeed at killing themselves more often, largely because they do not have many strong emotional bonds. Most men have fewer than 2 close friends. If a man is in crisis and the two people close to him are both busy, he'll kill himself partially out of spite.

What exactly did you want the university to do? There were four or five suicides at my uni every year. Life goes on at uni because it is fundamentally a business. Yeah, it's terribly sad when someone takes their own life, but life doesn't stop because someone's heart does.

If men are disposable, it's because other men made them that way.

[Asker]

the girl who tried to commit suicide was a drug addict yet for her the college was given a day's suspension and seminars were held for depression in young women by our principle... that really hurt me that how no one cared for my brother... that made me see how very little society or women care about a male student taking his life even though he was an excellent student

[Asker]

our principle did not take any such measure when after my brothers suicide i told her that we need to conduct a seminar on young men committing suicide... she simply said that its not necessary

[Astoriana]

There are no principals in uni.

[Astoriana]

Also, unless you all go to a tiny Christian university, there are no assemblies either. Something about this story is false.

[Asker]

colleges do have principals... by the way i understand the fact that you have hatred towards men or any other issues u might have but please don't call me a liar when i'm referring to my brothers death... i'm won't obviously lie about my brothers death... have good day

[Astoriana]

Oh, I believe he died. I just don't believe anything else about the situation.

[Asker]

Okay... Keep hating... But no I'm not lying about anything related to my late brother and God knows that... Your hatred is something u should get checked cause someobody you'll get the same treatment and please disrespect me all u want but don't disrespect my late brother

[Astoriana]

Maybe stop using your brother's suicide as a means to attack women and I'll consider it. Good night child. Sleep well. Don't get hit by a bus tomorrow.

[Anonymous]

first off I'm not a feminist, I believe we're equal
now, to answer your question: because I think we're equal I think a man's life is as worth as a woman's life
feminism has helped women and men can also have their own movement to change what you think is wrong
I don't expect a man to open the door for me, or pay on a date or die for me, i think both genders deserve the same respect from each other and if you think the situation is that bad maybe YOU should do something about it

[Musicismysoul]

I am a feminist, so I don't want special treatment or lower treatment. That is an issue in my book.