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If they're so mean/rude, then they are not nice.
but they insist on calling them nice because they refuse to believe actual nice guys are ever taken for granted
I said the same thing before. But apparently, I'm now, magically, a lonely, bitter, incel because of it. OOPS. :)
I am not rude, but the ‘nice guy’ does not live here any more.
Women can solve their own problems, especially if the problem is a result of choosing an exciting bad boy.
They're not. Or else they wouldn't be nice guys.
It's like scammers telling you, that they are your trustworthy bank and want to "secure" your account from theft.
Because " nice guys" only use being nice as a facade to get in your pants. Once they see that not working then they no longer see the point in being nice, thus they show their true colors.
False. I can understand that there are several cases where that is correct, but that is not the norm.
@Hawner if you can understand several cases on where it's correct then it's not false.
You know I can apply that exact logic on something that will trigger and offend you even if we both know it is not true at all?
Think about it.
@Hawner If you can then go ahead, try it.
Very well.
There have been cases of black men shooting innocent people. By your logic, since there are cases, if I say "all black people are killers" must be true.
We both know that is NOT true, but such is your logic.
There are obviously cases of "nice" people that use it as a facade but, aside from the fact that then they wouldn't be actually nice in the first place but faking it, that does not make the rule for all "nice people". Each has their own problems and situations and their reasons, valid or not, to stop being nice at some point or for someone.
@Hawner That neither triggers nor offends me. Also, applying the same logic to a completely different situation isn't a good argument anyways. I personally treat every situation differently and accordingly.
Also, the term "nice guys" have it's own definition that directed towards treating a girl nice for the exact reason that I said in my original comment.
The type of people you're talking about are "good people" or to fit this discussion a "good guy".
It is the same situation. You are saying something is 100% true because there are some cases of it. I say that other thing is 100% true because there are some cases of it. Context is the same, intent is the same, validity is the same. The book has a different cover and title and the story is different, but the author is the same and so is the argument and moral.
"Nice guy" and "good guy" is exactly the same. Both twittering a guy that behaves and treats people correctly and with respect.
@Hawer you're making big assumptions here, I suggest you to not do that.
The only thing that's the same in the either situation is the logic that your putting it in, which is exactly what I'm saying that you shouldn't do.
I mean, dude. You're litteraly saying that even the validity is the same, of couse it is because of the logic that your applying to it🤦.
The situation by themselves ARE NOT the same, which is what I'm telling you.
@Hawner also, I'm not saying that it's 100% true, I'm litteraly just stating my opnion like everyone else. If I didn't directly say I think what I said is 100% true the don't assume it.
You are the one that made the assumption AND applied that logic, not me. You assume that, because a couple use niceness as a facade, all do. That is you assumption and your logic. I just presented the exact same assumption and logic to you so you see how wrong it is.
So I suggest YOU don't do that.
@Hawner I assumed nothing, I merely stated my opinion on a question. I seen cases of where my opinion is true just liked you said it yourself🤦
If my opnion is anything then it's half true, I'm pretty sure that's something we can agree on.
I guess next time I'll choose my wording more carefully, so people like you can't assume that my opnion doesn't count for every single situation🤦.
And I thought I was a serious guy, goddamn dude.
If only I used the word "sometimes". Then you wouldn't have had to reply.
No, I do not. You said "All nice guys use that as facade" and based that on a couple of cases. That is not half, not a quarter, not a tenth correct.
An opinion is something that you think about something, not a statement that has to be truth because you say it.
@Hawner
Stop
Putting
Words
In
My
Mouth.
Look at my original comment, look at it. I didn't use the word "All". You wanna know why you think I did? Because you ASSUMED IT.
The wording you used was fine. What you wanted to say was not.
That is what you said. I re-read everything from the beginning and you said that. NOT literally, and you are getting to get away using that, but that is indeed what you said.
Whatever, this conversation isn't worth it, you're just making something bigger than what it is. I have the feeling that I must've struck a chord in you to disagree with me when at the same time you agree🤦.
I never agreed with you, unless you count small details that count for nothing. On the main topic, I disagreed.
Very well. Good luck then. I wish you well.
Rule #1, never be nice in the first place.
I changed my attitude and now get laid all the time. I was an ignorant naive idiot when I was younger, now I see how the 'game' is played. Play it well or GET PLAYED... Playa
Nice guys are usually unattractive and they think being nice will compensate for that. They get bitter and angry when they realize that ultimately it's only looks that matter, and that women don't like a guy just because he's nice.
You're really close but it's not mainly looks but fun/charisma. Women, particularly young and American ones, aren't attracted to boring guys.
Charisma is a bonus, sure, but good looks are the minimum requirement. I know so many women who date boring, even stupid men because of their looks. Even if the women themselves are intelligent or fun. In fact this is especially true of young women whose age group includes men who are also young, and thus still attractive. A woman in her 50s, however, is not going to have a lot of options since the men in her age group are mostly old and unattractive even if they were over good-looking in their youth.
Cuz many girls havd hurf the true nice guys so yes fhere mean cuz they havd a hard time believing that any girl is going to be nice to them an not just them for money
Simple answer :
You're making me desperate, you really are. People don't bore me thier conversations (sometimes) do? Can you unblock. You're hurting me. If you don't wanna talk we can not. Just unblock? @anon1903 you really think you bore me? And that's why and even then I'm talking to you?
Uhh dude are you a talker? Because you sound like one
@understand_bud
That’s who they are and them playing “Prince Charming” and STILL not getting the exact females they want really just sets them off.
You are mistaken icels with real nice guys. These fake nice omly act nice until they get what they want but if you disagree with them or reject, they show your their face
this is not to be confused with guys who reject girls for thinking of them as a nice guy. The issue girls face is not being able to distinguish genuine kindness and fake kindness. Some guys really do just want to be friends with a girl.
Because they're not really nice, they are only acting nice in the moment.
Cuz nice guys try to hard cuz they think it's like school or work.
In school / work / exercise you achieve results if you try hard
But if you try too hard for sex it creepy because you can't control what the girl wants or don't want
when you put it that way, you can't really blame them huh... reminds me of Attachment Theory as another example of how we internalize behavioral strategies from a young age
Yes attachment theory, good stuff...
If then he’s not really a nice guy. A nice person doesn’t tell you their a “nice person” they just are.
Because you wouldn't be shocked if a mean guy was a cunt. So you can't complain about mean guys being cunts. But when you brand a type of people as niceguys you expect them to be nice guys and when they aren't you get surprised
R/niceguys or the famous neckbeards? I don't know, i think they're consumed by loneliness or something. I kinda feel bad for them mostly
I don't know. Why is McDonald's the burger king? :)
huh...
which episode is that? I don't remember it at all but DAMN get em' Morty! :D
@errorgoodnameunfound S3E6 - Rest and Ricklaxation
@errorgoodnameunfound watch-online.xyz/.../
I'd either use Brave browser or a good firewall with that link; but it is still up on at least one of the tabs.
Nice to see Brave browser catching on. :) Had it installed like a year ago. I probably saw it already but I likely wasn't in the same mindset seeing it as I am now. Damn it reads so different now.
@errorgoodnameunfound Those all have so much replay value, lol
Because "nice guys" are not nice but incel fuckwits
Truth
I'm really about to be completely done with women they complain when men treat them like shit but it's completely valid when they do it to them.
it's bc no one likes trump supporters hahahahah.
Yeah yeah take your bullshit somewhere else I don't have time for you
I'm just stating facts but whatever bye
Take a hike or something your creepy as hell this is quite literally turning into harassment your literally stalking everything I do go bother someone else
Lol froyo truth 100%
How did this question immediately just turn political don't you ever think of something other then trump? This is a normal question not even normal questions are safe from politics y'all need to grow up and focus on other things
Get over it I see people from both sides doing it. Ain't a big deal unless it triggers you for some reason or another. Brush it off and move on... You do you bruh
I'm not triggered I really don't care I'm just saying nothing here is safe from politics like nothing
Meh don't matter really. Its what it is right now 🤷🏽♀️
I guess at least your not harassing me for having an opinion I appreciate that
@TheEmperor oh get over yourself. Like I said no one is interested in you enough to stalk you. And no one is harassing your for having an opinion but hey that's the trump supporter mindset. They think everyone is out to get them. lmao. It's funny because you said you guys call us snowflakes. Besides I've only responded to you on two posts lmao. I guess you never get much attention so you think this is harassing.
I dont think I'm as nice as I try to be a good person in general.
They're not really nice guys lmao. They just put it on because they think it means they deserve sex.
Wouldn't the proper term be "asshole" though? Because if not, then if I'm an "asshole," I am actually a gentlemen because quotation marks and arguing otherwise would show everyone who the loser, bitter, ugly guys are. :)
This was so hard to read. Sentence structure is fucked.
Basically, with the logic going on around here, "up" is not actually up, but really down. :)
I think you are confused. Nice guys do exist but we're talking about people who front as nice guys but think this means women should be attracted to them just for being outwardly nice. That is not true kindness that is just doing something because you think the reward is worth it. True kindness is doing things because it's the right thing to do not because you get some sort of reward from it.
I actually understand completely. It's like, penguins do exist but we're talking about people who front as penguins but think this means people should consider them adorable and wonderful just for being outwardly penguins. That is not true. Being a penguin is not doing something because you think the reward is worth it. True penguins are penguins because it's the right thing to do, not because they get a reward from it.
Understood.
:)
How does it work? Nice guys being mean. Their not nice if they are mean... but if a nice guy gets mean. It's because his kindness has been mistaken for weakness. Or he's been taken advantage of.
Nope. Not every person who is mad or disappointed gets mean. That's a poor way to act
It's the same logic as "up" not really being up, but actually down because its fake up. It's not really up. :)
They think they're nice but actually it's just entitlement.
I say I'm sort of an asshole to girls and then when I act like one they're surprised. 🤷🏽♂️
Im pretty much an asshole to men... It's pretty hilarious when they feel offended 😅
And you both seem to be proud of that. Just gorgeous.
Lol ok reg welcome to the conversation
I just dropped it here to maybe let you both think about it for a moment and maybe let you think to try to change your behavior. That's all.
Nah. Even though we're partly joking I'm good with being self-aware. However you should take your own advice and change your behavior. Maybe don't give out unsolicited/unwarranted advice on how to behavior to strangers. It's pretty rude, just saying.
But is being nice is actually being mean/rude aka an asshole, then being an asshole is actually being nice by the same logic. Ah, logical, modern linguistics. :D
I'm glad. Sometimes it's difficult to say whether it's a joke or not by chatting. And, well, I am aware it can be seen as rude, but in such cases I allow myself this rudeness consciously to "surprise people" and actually to push them into thinking that way whether they want or not due to incoventionationality of the encounter. And it works. I apologize then since you don't need it.
chapawapa , I apologize too if you don't need it either.
Please don’t confuse “nice guys” with “Reddit nice guys”
Probably because they have little to no social awareness and don't know how women work.
Because they are not nice, I mean didn't you see how much of shit are they
They can't be. If they are nice, they can't be mean.
Those "nice" guys are aren't nice. They're fuckboy losers, obviously. Just like "Mcdonalds" is actually Burger King :)
Lol if they're mean and rude, they aren't nice guys.
Not necessarily but your question/statement is true by definion or so it seems like...
How can he be a nice guy if he is rude & mean? In my way of thinking that would make him the opposite of a nice guy.
You women really need to stop trash talking nice guys. All you're doing is sending the message that women don't like nice guys and reinforcing the perception that being a jerk is how to succeed with women. All you're doing is hurting yourselves.
I'm thinking you mean "fake nice guy" here (based on your meme). It's because they have an ulterior motive (as @Brian___1731 pointed out).
Yeah, I mean one should either be kind to everyone or no one. Being kind to just get something out of it reveals their fakery
@Brian___1731 For real. I'm nice to everyone. It's just who I am. If it's seen as flirting, then so be it. I don't consider it flirting (and hopefully the other person doesn't either). This is probably why I don't "get" flirting.
I get that haha
Omfg you people make me cringe so much, that my head starts to hurt. Nice is nice, bad is nice. Not nice= bad, bad = nice.. Stop changing the meaning of words.
Their not really nice they show their true side. Their showing fake nice.
I think it's frustration due to lack of success with women
I hope u mean that the guy in the meme is not rude.. but just, keeping it for the "token " reason and in reality the so claiming nice guys are rude.
Am I right to assume that? Or m I wrong?
Immaturity in early 20s. They'll have calmed down by 25. It's just a slowness in maturing. Don't stress ladies.
Right. I started to notice this pattern of behaviors. It's mostly young men at early 20s who are rude to me (talking about sexual stuff even they just met me.) Is it sexually frustration? Well, there are also older men, like 50s. But I can understand that.
Well, by your photo, you really don't look like someone pleasant or someone they'd want around.
How else would they tell you to leave them alone?
Because nice things either get put on a pedestal or get destroyed and frankly they're tired of finishing last... I mean who's really being mean or rude at this point
because they are tried of getting mistreated and taken for granted
You actually have a point. Therefore, you are a bitter incel and I will make it be known how much I think my genitals has power over you! FEAR ME! AS I AM BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I SAY SO! :D
you pretty much answered your own question by posting that image
because most of them now days dont have any kooth, and it takes maturity to act like a man
I think "nice" starts to mean something way different then originally.
A guy who is nice, won't be mean and rude to you.
As soon as you confuse them because they can't get into your pants, the blood rushing back into their brains causes them to go mad.
We learn to be rude... their tired of being nice taken advantage of. Turned over spanked and taken by the moon light.
Because they are not nice guys and you should stop calling them nice
it depends on my mood half the time i am nice but sometimes i just wanna be mean
Usually because they get ignored by Women when they are Nice.
You serious lol? How can you be nice but be mean/rude?
I'm a sweet nice guy... and I'm not mean or rude either lol just don't piss me off 🤣🤣🤣
Not all of them are, but if you happen to find one who is he was probably hurt in the past or put in the friends zone one to many times
This is why dudes are turning into assholes since being nice is considered a bad thing now
That question literally made no sense. I wouldn't generalize nice people.
If they’re mean or rude then they’re not nice guys.
It's the internet, every normal person is at least a little mean or rude.
Lol, yeah. That's pretty accurate.
What do you mean? Can you give an example?
Ya know those guys who don't want you to suck his dick 24/7 to prove your love for him? Yah.
He's horrible.
He's a loser.
He obviously wants to use you. Even if he doesn't, he does.
That basically sums it all up. :)
a guy who hovers around you, warns other guys about you to keep them off, helps you all the time (kissing your feet), wants to be your best friend lol, doesn't ask you out on a date but hopes you'll have sex with him once the 'help' tally adds up.
r/niceguys you mean?
Yup exactly what I mean
They're not 'nice'. Just doormat-ish horny little desperate men willing to bash at any women who doesn't return the 'favor' (pussy) for their 'niceness'.
Yep that's exactly it... 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
because they aren't nice guys lol.