But are these guys really 'nice', then? Or are you confusing them with those who are really nice?
I, for instance, have always been taught by my parents and sister to be respectful and humble to one and all, not just girls. Such guys will never get frustrated when anyone uses them, they'll get hurt, get suspicious, but will not dump their kindness and humbleness.
So try to check first whether the guy is actually nice or is just trying to get in your pants. The sureshot method to do this is by observing how he treats others around him, especially those weaker or junior to him. Also, nice guys won't flirt with you forcefully or desperately, and will leave flirting if you're uncomfortable, no matter how much they like you.
I don't think these guys are that bad to date. These nice guys will possibly never hurt you, may never cheat on you and treat you as you deserve!
this is what girls say about the nice guy: "Awe i miss that charming prince, he was so popular with all the girls" Truth: He just helped all the girls, kissed their feet, BUT never got laid.
My guess would be that someone probably instilled in them the value of the Gold Rule, so they treat people how they want to be treated, but people suck and abuse and use them, so eventually they get pissed off and act like a normal person. Then people are shocked because their behavior changed and they won’t put up with their shit anymore.
I think the word "nice" is a very general word. Anyone can be nice. That same person can also be not "nice" the very next minute. You have to differentiate between the guys who are really kind and responsible from those who are pretending to be nice in order to be in your favour. This goes for both men and women. Just be more careful and critical in your interactions with people.
@Hawner well, let me ask- are we talking guys who are genuinely decent, or are we talking about "Nice Guys". There's a huge difference. Genuinely nice guys don't get smacked down all the time because they know how to handle themselves and talk to girls.
"Nice Guys" are friend-zone chumps always trying to illicit a pity-F and have a great many repulsive qualities, one of which is mean/rude temper tantrums.
@BeenThereLivedIt Incorrect. As I said to someone else, of we are talking about guys that "acct nice" on order to get something, they aren't nice in the first place. So, they don't count. If we are talking about real nice guys, they are on the majority of cases (thankfully not always) ignored romantically by women. They normally prefer more the bad-ass or cool guy type, so the nice guy is mostly forgotten. When they want something, they more times than not fail to get it because other "cooler guy" got it first despite the nice one doing a better job.
@Hawner I sympathize with the 'guy' you use as an example. I was one of them, once.
Believe me when I tell you, it's a character flaw- those thoughts and feelings that you (or that nice guy) was overlooked for a myriad of reasons. You don't have to be a badass to get that promotion, or win over that girl- that's all in the head of the 'nice guy'. It's his demeanor, that he believes right down to his very soul that he deserves this prize because he's decent and that others don't deserve it because they are less decent, or not at all decent human beings.
It's a fallacy. Nice guys never blame themselves. They always blame someone else. I wrote a mytake about this, I was that guy. I changed my life and now I'm a decent and genuine man, but I'm no nice guy. I get the girls and the promotions. I have for about 10 years now. I was the problem, and also I was the solution. I really do hope that you read it and ponder. Good luck
If the "nice guy" feels entitled to get the girl and that others don't deserve her (or a promotion or whatever), he is not a "nice guy". The real nice guy is hurt by losing the girl or the promotion or whatever but, unless the other one cheated to get it, he will never resent the other guy. It wouldn't be "nice". That is the key. So, you are not taking about actual nice guys, but fakes.
Because the girl doesn't like him, for example? Because the company can't afford to promote him? Are you actually asking me something in hopes that I look like I know nothing to support your point? It is not helping. You want me to correctly answer those specific cases, you better give me the details so I can guess more accurately. If not, don't bring absurd questions that don't help.
@Hawner I'm just trying to figure out what your point is man - you talk about nice guys getting smacked down as a reason for their tantrums, but then you claim that very same guy is a gentleman and doesn't have tantrums. Maybe you aren't being clear enough or maybe I'm just not very bright, but "nice guy" has always in my circle been a reference to the friend-zone pity boy, so I was referencing that guy in my original answer to the question.
I didn't say they get tantrums for being smacked down. That was a direct reply to what you said in the same format so you could see where you were wrong, not what the original post said. I actually think that statement "nice guys are mean" contradicts itself and never bothered answering it. However, to debate that point you bring, "Nice guys" can have low moments, where they can't anymore and explode. That is actually a problem they have: they bottle everything up inside and, when they reached their limit... Not a tantrum, but for a while you can't call them "nice" anymore. I think all humans have those moments. And yes, they mostly end up friend-zoned, as you say. That is one of the things I said as well.
It's part of their incel culture. Or you could say "nice guys" are the types who move onto becoming incels and stalkers.
You could say it's their evolution path. They cannot understand their gaslighting and mendacious habits lead them down the wrong path.
It's like a prude and obnoxious prick complaining he always gets sidelined and ignored for "some reason". Naw fam, you get sidelined and ignored because you are not half as benign as you think yourself to be.
r/niceguys Probably cause they believe if they're nice, that means the woman will just fuck them and when thats not the case? They get alil butt hurt lol
Same reason phone scammers based in Indian call centers act all friendly towards little old ladies over the telephone.
There are many guys who are genuinely nice/kind/sweet etc. But the so-called "Nice-Guys" are just playing the part without actually *being* a good person. They're wolves in sheep's clothing. But of course they always play the victim and deflect blame when called out on their covert manipulation tactics.
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Haven’t you heard the saying “All men are nice until you have sex with them”. It is because they know they can’t be assholes upfront. They will want to use you for a bit and then leave because that’s what some men like to do. Although there are some men that are nice enough to respect women and apologize.
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I sympathize. I think in general they're just trying to get what everyone else is and to be happy. So they do everything they're told/taught, but often don't get it right because all they have to work with is movies and women who don't tell them anything useful. So of course they get pissed off, which while a reasonable response to frustration, doesn't solve their problem. And it's not like women have an equivalent social position they end up in, so it's kind of just a unique guy problem.
They aren't, because if they're nice, they're not gonna be rude/mean, but a lot of people can fake being nice, as the proverb says fake it till you make it!
On a second hand, even the nicest people ever have their limits, so we probably need more context to better understand your question🙄
Because they're not actually nice guys. They're "nice guys". They're guys who feel entitled to get something in return for acting nice. Not actually being nice.
Nice guys think friendship is a means to romantic relationship. They cannot fathom the idea that a girl can like them as a friend but not as a boyfriend, so they become furious when rejected.
Or say yes if she asks you.. Some guys Drag out friendship even when she wants to date, thinkingwell she’ll REALLY wanna date if I show I just wanna be friends. No pressure right 😁“
Because in they are investing time and effort in hopes to get a certain thing and then they are pissed that they don't get it.
I mean wouldn't you be pissed if you went out if your way to impress a guy you like and they just take everything for granted and treat you like a normal friend, even though you do way more for them than all the other people?
I know it's a mistake on their part. Just explaining why they are mean.
1. These aren't nice guys. They're playing nice in order to fuck you. 2. Women tend to be nasty to guys who come across as "too nice". Y'all want assholes so you can feel small and 'girly' then play victim when they ruin your lives or hurt you.
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But are these guys really 'nice', then? Or are you confusing them with those who are really nice?
I, for instance, have always been taught by my parents and sister to be respectful and humble to one and all, not just girls. Such guys will never get frustrated when anyone uses them, they'll get hurt, get suspicious, but will not dump their kindness and humbleness.
So try to check first whether the guy is actually nice or is just trying to get in your pants. The sureshot method to do this is by observing how he treats others around him, especially those weaker or junior to him. Also, nice guys won't flirt with you forcefully or desperately, and will leave flirting if you're uncomfortable, no matter how much they like you.
I don't think these guys are that bad to date. These nice guys will possibly never hurt you, may never cheat on you and treat you as you deserve!
this is what girls say about the nice guy:
"Awe i miss that charming prince, he was so popular with all the girls"
Truth: He just helped all the girls, kissed their feet, BUT never got laid.
Result: Massacred a school in the USA
My guess would be that someone probably instilled in them the value of the Gold Rule, so they treat people how they want to be treated, but people suck and abuse and use them, so eventually they get pissed off and act like a normal person. Then people are shocked because their behavior changed and they won’t put up with their shit anymore.
Because they’re not actually nice. Any guy that calls himself, routinely, a nice guy 9/10 is not.
Truth 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Wait, if nice guys are actually assholes, then if I'm an asshole, that makes me?
Good question to post
Done! :D
If nice guys are actually assholes, then if I'm an asshole, that makes me? ↗
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Is this a message to you? Lol omg 😱
Omg that is the fucking example of a "nice guy"
@hi_it_is_me123 No it's an example of some dumb retard. No one with a good working brain would ever type that to a person, right? Or am I wrong?
This is every nice guy... Then goes online to complain so he looks like the victim lol 😆
I think the word "nice" is a very general word. Anyone can be nice. That same person can also be not "nice" the very next minute.
You have to differentiate between the guys who are really kind and responsible from those who are pretending to be nice in order to be in your favour. This goes for both men and women.
Just be more careful and critical in your interactions with people.
Simple - they have unrealistic expectations and throw tantrums when they continuously are let down.
Maybe they just have regular expectations but get smacked down on a regular basis simply because they are nice and don't want trouble.
@Hawner well, let me ask- are we talking guys who are genuinely decent, or are we talking about "Nice Guys". There's a huge difference. Genuinely nice guys don't get smacked down all the time because they know how to handle themselves and talk to girls.
"Nice Guys" are friend-zone chumps always trying to illicit a pity-F and have a great many repulsive qualities, one of which is mean/rude temper tantrums.
Right?
Agreed @BeenThereLovedIt
@BeenThereLivedIt Incorrect.
As I said to someone else, of we are talking about guys that "acct nice" on order to get something, they aren't nice in the first place. So, they don't count.
If we are talking about real nice guys, they are on the majority of cases (thankfully not always) ignored romantically by women. They normally prefer more the bad-ass or cool guy type, so the nice guy is mostly forgotten. When they want something, they more times than not fail to get it because other "cooler guy" got it first despite the nice one doing a better job.
@Hawner I sympathize with the 'guy' you use as an example. I was one of them, once.
Believe me when I tell you, it's a character flaw- those thoughts and feelings that you (or that nice guy) was overlooked for a myriad of reasons. You don't have to be a badass to get that promotion, or win over that girl- that's all in the head of the 'nice guy'. It's his demeanor, that he believes right down to his very soul that he deserves this prize because he's decent and that others don't deserve it because they are less decent, or not at all decent human beings.
It's a fallacy. Nice guys never blame themselves. They always blame someone else. I wrote a mytake about this, I was that guy. I changed my life and now I'm a decent and genuine man, but I'm no nice guy. I get the girls and the promotions. I have for about 10 years now. I was the problem, and also I was the solution. I really do hope that you read it and ponder. Good luck
If the "nice guy" feels entitled to get the girl and that others don't deserve her (or a promotion or whatever), he is not a "nice guy".
The real nice guy is hurt by losing the girl or the promotion or whatever but, unless the other one cheated to get it, he will never resent the other guy. It wouldn't be "nice". That is the key.
So, you are not taking about actual nice guys, but fakes.
@Hawner
So why isn't the 'true' nice guy getting the girl or the promotion?
Because the girl doesn't like him, for example? Because the company can't afford to promote him?
Are you actually asking me something in hopes that I look like I know nothing to support your point? It is not helping.
You want me to correctly answer those specific cases, you better give me the details so I can guess more accurately. If not, don't bring absurd questions that don't help.
@Hawner I'm just trying to figure out what your point is man - you talk about nice guys getting smacked down as a reason for their tantrums, but then you claim that very same guy is a gentleman and doesn't have tantrums. Maybe you aren't being clear enough or maybe I'm just not very bright, but "nice guy" has always in my circle been a reference to the friend-zone pity boy, so I was referencing that guy in my original answer to the question.
I didn't say they get tantrums for being smacked down. That was a direct reply to what you said in the same format so you could see where you were wrong, not what the original post said. I actually think that statement "nice guys are mean" contradicts itself and never bothered answering it.
However, to debate that point you bring, "Nice guys" can have low moments, where they can't anymore and explode. That is actually a problem they have: they bottle everything up inside and, when they reached their limit... Not a tantrum, but for a while you can't call them "nice" anymore. I think all humans have those moments.
And yes, they mostly end up friend-zoned, as you say. That is one of the things I said as well.
It's part of their incel culture. Or you could say "nice guys" are the types who move onto becoming incels and stalkers.
You could say it's their evolution path. They cannot understand their gaslighting and mendacious habits lead them down the wrong path.
It's like a prude and obnoxious prick complaining he always gets sidelined and ignored for "some reason". Naw fam, you get sidelined and ignored because you are not half as benign as you think yourself to be.
They are "knights" and nothing more. Looking for brownie points to score with women.
They somehow think they are "better" than their outwardly misogynistic counterparts. lol
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Probably cause they believe if they're nice, that means the woman will just fuck them and when thats not the case? They get alil butt hurt lol
Same reason phone scammers based in Indian call centers act all friendly towards little old ladies over the telephone.
There are many guys who are genuinely nice/kind/sweet etc. But the so-called "Nice-Guys" are just playing the part without actually *being* a good person. They're wolves in sheep's clothing. But of course they always play the victim and deflect blame when called out on their covert manipulation tactics.
Haven’t you heard the saying “All men are nice until you have sex with them”. It is because they know they can’t be assholes upfront. They will want to use you for a bit and then leave because that’s what some men like to do. Although there are some men that are nice enough to respect women and apologize.
I sympathize. I think in general they're just trying to get what everyone else is and to be happy. So they do everything they're told/taught, but often don't get it right because all they have to work with is movies and women who don't tell them anything useful. So of course they get pissed off, which while a reasonable response to frustration, doesn't solve their problem. And it's not like women have an equivalent social position they end up in, so it's kind of just a unique guy problem.
They aren't, because if they're nice, they're not gonna be rude/mean, but a lot of people can fake being nice, as the proverb says fake it till you make it!
On a second hand, even the nicest people ever have their limits, so we probably need more context to better understand your question🙄
Because they're not actually nice guys. They're "nice guys". They're guys who feel entitled to get something in return for acting nice. Not actually being nice.
Nice guys think friendship is a means to romantic relationship. They cannot fathom the idea that a girl can like them as a friend but not as a boyfriend, so they become furious when rejected.
Assuming that is true, what is the alternative action the guy should do?
Do you seriously not know? Lol just ask her out like a normal person.
😂😂😂🤷♂️🤔😀 💡 💡 💡
Or say yes if she asks you.. Some guys Drag out friendship even when she wants to date, thinkingwell she’ll REALLY wanna date if I show I just wanna be friends. No pressure right 😁“
Because in they are investing time and effort in hopes to get a certain thing and then they are pissed that they don't get it.
I mean wouldn't you be pissed if you went out if your way to impress a guy you like and they just take everything for granted and treat you like a normal friend, even though you do way more for them than all the other people?
I know it's a mistake on their part. Just explaining why they are mean.
1. These aren't nice guys. They're playing nice in order to fuck you.
2. Women tend to be nasty to guys who come across as "too nice". Y'all want assholes so you can feel small and 'girly' then play victim when they ruin your lives or hurt you.
They are not nice, its manipulation. They manipulate people into having sex. Those type of guys are hypocrites.
Because they THINK they're nice so they can do whatever and say whatever they want. They don't like to take other people's feelings into consideration