Why do easy/promiscuos guys have the audacity to slut-shame women? Why does man child expect women to be non promiscuos but himself use women for sex?

[Anonymous]

So why do male cunts have the audacity to call women easy when she does the same shit as him? If you want virgin aka non promiscuos women be a non promiscuos aka virgin yourself. Why do you have the right to use women for sex but also dont want a woman who does the same shit? Just because women and men biologically aka physically different, it does not mean that men have a right to be man child aka be hypocritical cunt who slutshame women

I want a non promiscuos or a virgin like me

I dont care about bodycount

I am a hypocritical slut and so expect my partner to not have any ONS or any promiscuos past but myself can have ONS in the past or so on

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+1 y

Of course there are stupid femcels who mainly slutshame women too. I am sorry that i dont mention this.

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Ok this is going to make some people mad, so please understand that i am only referencing those who are hung up on the idea. There are a lot of good guys out there whonare secure enough with themselves that it isn't an issue for them. That being said...

Ownership and ego. Do as I say not as I do. Take your pick. The way I see it is if a woman wants to go explore herself then other guys have laid claim to her and so she is in used condition and cannot be truly owned by them.. it is one more thing to claim as a prize. They expect women to be this ideal image of purity, grace and obedience. Anything less and she is considered shrill, a b*tch, or worse.

Some will claim it is because they are worried about std's. Cool. Get tested. Some will claim it means she will be promiscuous in their relationship. Cool. Have good communication with her and give her a reason to only want to be with you. (For the record though if she does cheat that's bad on her).

[jaybee281]

Or maybe just maybe - We genuinely think it decreases her value in our eyes - A used up woman equals a woman who gave it up too easily - Ask any guy you know he'd say yes to sleeping with you - I don't think you'd do the same if half of the guys you knew asked you for sex - I've known many women who look like 9s whom if under different circumstances I'd actually look for a relationship with - the moment I hear they've slept with many dudes she's still a 9 by looks but a 1 in long term dating - So of course I'll sleep with her but nothing more - that's how single motherhood happens - Which is very common - just sayin - A virgin is not a Saint or pure or whatever - she just reserved herself to the guy that is worth it - that's all we mean..

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Yeah but WHY would you devalue them? You are perfectly fine sleeping around but a woman is not? So that's the question. Why is it ok for one and not the other?

[jaybee281]

It's quite simple really - A woman (over 3/10 by looks) can get sex WHENEVER she wants - It's extremely easy for her to do so - That's what all men want after all - She has the ultimate say in it - So when she gives it away to some dudes she barely knows I genuinely categorize her as easy and I'll fuck her but no relationships here - Meanwhile a virgin knows sex's worth and how much power she has through it - she won't give it up to a man who hasn't given her any kind of commitment - Meanwhile - MOST dudes my age - I'll go with 70% of them - are still virgins - that's what women don't get - most men get rejected by women meanwhile the 30% sleep with 5 and 6 women - That's why women unconsciously don't see it as a devaluation - they see it as the dude is desirable - We're just built different - it's like those dudes who act all nice begging you to commit and buying you gifts - you do want commitment and you do want gifts - just like men do want sex - just not like that if we're talking monogamous relationships - A man like that (begs for commitment spends money like crazy on her) ends up in the just friends zone - a woman who gives it up easily - since men don't have a just friends zone - ends up in the just sex zone.. It does kinda sound tragic for most people involved but you know it is what it is

[Ez-Bri-Z]

Gosh this really reads like an incel handbook, I'm sorry.

Let's break this down. Even if it were true that we could get sex whenever we wanted it doesn't mean it makes us any less of a person just because we did.

You say a virgin knows sex's worth not taking into account a plethora of reasons why she might still be one including just being too nervous or not having a viable option. Lots of people get rejected daily. It happens. Deal with and move on. I can tell you now, I reject every single guy who asks me not just because I am gay, but also because I get multiple propositions near daily on my apps I am on. It gets tiring filtering through so many bad ones just to get to a good one. Want a place to start your blame? Try looking inwards and tell your fellow guys to stop being creeps in their messages and maybe women would be more receptive to you.

And no, guys who are secure with themselves and don't look at women the way you describe them end up in relationships. Not because they were jerks and not because they spent all their money on them. It was because they treated that woman as an actual person.

[jaybee281]

Why do people do that? Honestly now men and women when it has anything related to anti sexual liberation the guy must be an incel - just saying I voted hypocritical slut - The matter of fact is - Me you all of us - For every male ancestor we have we have 2 female ancestors - in other words it's a fact of life that at least on average half the men die virgins - I don't feel sorry for them or anything I was putting it into perspective for you how things go - please read it again from a perspective of maybe this guy is just trying to tell me how things are - If you read it that way you might realize I didn't blame anyone for anything - It is what it is and I'm one of the least affected by it - I just don't get why you got so triggered and ranted about points this discussion doesn't give half a fuck about

[Ez-Bri-Z]

No it reads as this guy is just angry at women and hasn't applied any critical thinking to this.

First off even a basic Google search turns up your half of men die a virgin claim to be false. First search result is the CDC.

From the census bureau, between 2000-2010 there was actually more females than males. On average over time the statistical gap is less than 1% between the two.

So no, it's not how it is. So please read my side as hey this girl is trying to give me a dose of reality.

[jaybee281]

Back at it again with the irrelevant stuff - my bad though I missed the d in died - Obviously not now and not in the last 1000 years at least was it the case that half the men died virgins - but that's irrelevant to anything we're discussing - Your 1st argument basically was that you shouldn't judge us even if we have it easily - that's not an argument - 2nd argument is completely situational most virgins after a certain age are virgins because they're waiting for marriage - 3rd thing which is a justification for why you reject dudes - completely agree with you and you don't have to justify anything to me about this - I've seen dudes wear those jeans shorts that arrive right below the knee - wearing that in fuckin clubs - Auto rejection regardless of his behavior let alone his behavior - and I see where extremely nice (which is being fake nice) dudes end up - mediocre marriages with women who don't really love them - I'm not saying women only like jerks - they just dislike ass kissers - Again I don't feel bad for them they chose to be fake - And it's weird you're saying I've been angered by women before I tried to make the paragraph as objective as I could - I mean I have been angered twice by women but definitely not due to lack of sex - more like the opposite - let's just say the transition from Southern Italy to America was a weird one for me..

[Ez-Bri-Z]

We are going to have to agree to disagree. You've obviously lived your experiences and I have mine. The numbers you quote have no basis in fact and I was able to provide data proving mine. If you fail to acknowledge it then that's your decision.

Thank you for the discussion.

[GirlyGal20]

@jaybee281 why is it always an extreme? why is a woman who's had 2-7 of sex partners by say 26-27 but only sleeps with boyfriends because she's out there looking for the real thing and hates casual sex, is hated on as well. I don't get it. Even when we're not as slutty as men we're shamed.

[SarahSecret]

Because guys will shame us... Where as I've heard women or my friends say ''Oh well, he's a guy''.

If us women started to shame men more rather than complain about the double standards we're creating ourselves... than it'd become a stigma for guys to sleep around as well.

[Asker]

Omg you are right

[Asker]

I am already slut-shaming men lol

[TurboKid]

I never did the slut-shaming in part because I'd have to criticize myself first if I did. You know, like the Christian quote: "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." There's no way I could cast the first stone since I had my promiscuous period. I don't see why sexual history should be so important anyway. I know I can fall in love with a woman in spite of my somewhat promiscuous past so I don't put it past her to do the same.

[TurboKid]

As for why though, I think this site attracts such extreme minds sometimes but I get the sense like the extreme types are still viewing women like property. I can respect if they are virgin types who only want virgin before marriage but I don't like hypocritical ones. I think the hypocritical ones cannot compare themselves to women on a sexual level. I am not one who thinks men and women are identical and usually do not find problems with double standards but in this context (or any context that is very judgmental), I think we should err on the side of assuming an even playing field.

[TurboKid]

Even playing field like if guy is not a virgin, he should not be criticizing a girl for not being one.

[Asker]

Thank you so much for your reply. I really like how nice and non hypocritical you are.

[TurboKid]

Cheers! I actually like many double standards though between men and women. I usually don't find a problem with most "double standards". I am old-fashioned in some sense. But I like what some people consider "double standards" that I think are benign and offer a formal arrangement to have fun, guide people to a good time, towards romance, things like that. Take the idea of a man taking lead in a dance. I think that offers a guide to romance and courtship that I don't find useful to challenge. But I do not like double standards that lead to a hostile and judgmental view of other people. I think that is definitely working towards hypocrisy.

[GirlyGal20]

Thank you for this reply! Not all of us non-virgins sleep around easily... ugh

[jaybee281]

Because men who have sex are not easy men - that's an insult to the 80% 22 year olds who no woman would sleep with - women have it easy to get sex - not women... You don't know how hard it is for dudes who have no money or status to get laid - meanwhile women can have sex with anyone - just ask a close guy friend he'll say yea..

[jaybee281]

Not men**

[Asker]

Then blame men who make it easy for women

[Asker]

I also blmae women who make slutshaming possible. So women should slut shame men to make a point

[jaybee281]

Men never made it easy for women - ask any guy you know they'd fuck 85% of the women on this planet - no emotions involved - we don't care - men have always wanted sex - sex has always been a woman's power over a man - they pick who they sleep with and who they don't sleep with - either I like it or not women have the final say when it comes to sexuality - that's why marriages lasted - Women knew their power was in giving or not giving sex - and men still know their power was in giving or not giving commitment - now you see all these single mothers who have been humped and dumped - honestly I blame the women's sexual liberation movement that was endorsed by both women and men - bad move

[Asker]

You admit it that men want always want sex. So you guys make it eas, for women. If no man was easy, women could not get sex so easy :). So men's fault

[Asker]

Dont give sex so easily then

[jaybee281]

That's not the way it works - the way it works is men really really want sex - Women have the ultimate say in giving sex or not - at least that's what women knew before feminism - Meanwhile women although they always wanted sex - they really really want commitment accompanied with sex - they knew that if they give sex away without a commitment they'll probably never get a commitment - so they didn't have sex until they have established that commitment which is getting married basically - so if in your opinion it's the men's fault - it's still by far the woman's responsibility.

[Asker]

Dont be easy, if you want a not "easy" women. Dont be a hypocritical cunt. So you are saying men can't control themself and say often yes to sex? These men need therapy. Lol you are just insulting men at this point and calling them indirectly man child since you expect women to make choice for men when it comes to sex. Just say no, instead of expecting only women to control themself. Be a adult and be responsible instead of expecting only women to be responsible. So it is again men's fault. Men should not want sex so much then, if you want women to not have easy and want them to work for sex too. Be respectful to yourself, and dont follow your instincs blindly. You should established that commitment beforr wanting this from women

[Asker]

Women would not have the ultimate say in giving sex or not, if men would not be easy. So your fault

[Asker]

I want a virgin man with self control. I have reject guys with no self control by testing them by asking them if they want sex on the first date and when they say yes, i ghost them even though they were begging me to stay with them and want me to marry them but i dont marry a man with no selfcontrol

[jaybee281]

😂😂😂😂😂Not gonna lie your last comment really made me laugh - stop asking dudes if they want to sleep with you - ALL OF THEM are gonna say yes - you'll die alone - see I'm looking after you right now

[Asker]

Aww that is why i have boyfriend who ain't like you? Not all men are cunts like you. My female relatives and friends did this test and now they are married

[Asker]

But i am not sure about some guys. I have met a guy who was very easy and so dont mind having sex on the first date but also was obsessed with me and even threated me with suicide if i left him but unfortunately he is stil alive lol. So i think some guys would still stay with you and marry you even if you have sex on the first date and this happened to some of my female friends who are still together with their bfs for many years despite havig sex on the first date. I even have heard about a muslim girl who had sex with him before marriage and wanted to leave him but he did not let her to do that abd even physically harm her and kinda force her to marry. But i dont deny hypocritical male whores sleep around but want to marry a virgin

[RolandCuthbert]

But you know this is about control right?

Some guys are going to call you any name or use any method to control you.

[cjmtherfcker]

1.) Women control access to sex. Not men
2.) Women can commit parternity fraud men can't

Virtue inspires men to want to protect and provide the way confidence inspires women to want to spread their legs.

[Asker]

If men ain't easy whores, no woman have it easy. Have self control

[cjmtherfcker]

So you deny women control access to sex?

[Asker]

So you think women rape men aka force men to have sex with them? Why can't men be responsible for their decisions? Men do AGREE with a woman to have sex, no women force aka control sex

[cjmtherfcker]

I never said rape. i simply said access. Are you truly struggling to understand what a said? Or just seeking to be combative and right

[Asker]

No, idiot. You are clearly men are child since they can't take responsibilities for having sex for example.

[Asker]

Sowhat if women have easy access? Are you just jealous about it and that is why you are shaming women? You said control access, fool. Again dot be easy male whores, have selcontrol and say No instead of blaming women forhaving sex with them. If no man was easy, woman would nothave it easy. So men are the one who control the access since they made it easy for women to have sex

[cjmtherfcker]

Children use insults and repeat themselves when they can't defend their position with facts

[cjmtherfcker]

O i love whores. Some of the best sex i had was with whores. However i will never view them as anything but whores.

[cjmtherfcker]

Men aren't being persued for sex so how could they say NO IDIOT

[Asker]

Your bullshit ain't fact. You just prove my point. You are manchild that can't take responsibility. These women also view you as used up good or damaeg good. Both have sex but you only call women a whore.. you are just mad that women have iteasy because male cuts like you make it easy. Go blame used up goods like you.

[Asker]

Men can say no but man child like you can't say no expect women to make decisions for you idiot.

[Asker]

My isults are facts. You are a manchild

[Asker]

You just can't accept that you are an easy whore aka used up goods. Just admit, i let you alone, cunt. You are nothing but a used up fag. Please go date a whore likr you

[Asker]

Have dignity. No selfrespectig girl would want an used good like you who canttake responsibility for their own decisions

[Asker]

Just explain to why do boys like you make sex so easy then but also slutshame who do the same. Both of you do exactly the same but only women are the easy one. Make it make sense. Why could not you say no to sex for example. Why dont you have self control?

[Asker]

Men are not persued because they are so easy. So it is man's fault. If no men persue it, women do it on their own fool.

[Asker]

So you can insult women but if i insult youthe same way suddenly i am chid? Aww you are a just manchild thst can't be responsible for the actions you do.

[wankiam]

i voted d because while i could have checked b instead, it suggests i dont care about bodycount when infact i like women that have had lots of cock before so i do care.

[lycanthrope3]

Double standards set by men

[Asker]

And also by women. Women also slutshame women who ain't like them

[lycanthrope3]

Very true, i do not care for shamers