Modern feminism (third and fourth wave) is what "toxic femininity" would be. Luckily, "toxic masculinity" nor femininity doesn't exist. If people are acting badly, that's just called being an asshole. And both genders and all demographics of humans are easily capable of that.
Being a jerk doesn't need to be gendered, however what these female feminist assholes refer to as "toxic masculinity" is just normal ACTUAL masculinity. And they dislike that. To them, in all their femsplaining logic, masculinity "should" be being as weak, effeminate, and submissive as possible. That way, these feminists can then feign being the psuedo-alpha-males they think of all men as being and usurp power.
In other words, they want to turn men into what they think of all women as being, weak and helpless damsels with no spine/backbone, and become what they think of all men as being, the cocky powerful rich asshole psuedo-alpha-males (which is especially why they're obsessed with Donald Trump; he's secretly everything they wish they were, and they're ridiculously envious of it). That's why they try so hard to destroy masculinity and replace it with bitch-boy tendencies. (Ironically, even most feminists don't like soy boys as romantic partners.)61 Reply
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+1 y- Women forcing men to fight for the right to be involved in their children's lives post divorce.
- Women feeling like its acceptable to falsely accuse men of rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment, and domestic violence.
- Women feeling like its ok to hit men, because they can get away with it, because they know damn well that if he hits her back he will go to jail not her.
- Women using the term "Toxic masculinity" To shame things that are traditionally male, and at the same time feminize their male children. A good example of this by the way is a lady in Texas who tried very hard to transition her son to being a girl, and when he is around his dad, he is like a normal little boy.. she's a fucking monster and a perfect example of toxic femininity
- Women only dating men based on how much they make and what they can provide for them.. Seriously if you truly are equal bring more to the table than just sex.. And stop treating men like walking talking ATM's
- Women shunning and hating on women who chose to be stay at home mothers, and house wives.. Some women want to be mothers and wives..
- Women shunning and hating on women for any other occupation choice. Choosing not to have children or a family.. not everyone desires that.
- Women choosing to murder their children (not referring to abortion here).. 71% of all child deaths, child abuse, and child neglect is at the hands of women.. Not men.. A good example of this is a lesbian couple from Brazil i think, who killed their son simply because he was male, and refused to be female.
- Women choosing to silence men, and tell them to man up, when they admit that they have been the victim of sexual assault, Abuse, Domestic violence.. the list goes on..70 Reply
Hey, I almost expected this to get posted after Wowwgirl's post.
Pretty much the same, but basically the over exaggeration of feminine traits and the expectations of men. Holding ideas like; we are only here to serve men, that if we don't try to look as feminine as possible that we are somehow not doing our jobs, the expectation that we shouldn't have careers and that men are only here to take care of us, that we HAVE to start a family, that men who cry are considered weak and not worth our time, and there are plenty more, but I think you get the idea of what I am saying.29 Reply- +1 y
Ohhh so your take is that regardless of gender, toxicity exists. See that changes the perception a bit because saying and making a whole post on how there is no such thing as toxic masculinity reads a WHOLE lot different than toxic people only serve to prove they are toxic, not their gender.
+1 yToxic femininity to me is when women are overly girly. They embrace their femininity to a point where it incapacitates them. They will go out of their way to refuse to learn things like basic repairs. They cry and complain and are always the damsel in the distress. They take very little responsibility in their actions. To these women it seems cute that they are so fragile but many men eventually find these women too annoying and dependant. These are the same women that mock men for crying or avoiding a fight because these women live to embrace and enforce stereotypes.
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+1 ywww.girlsaskguys.com/.../q4427096-what-are-you-thoughts-on-this-rant-about-women
Look at the screenshot on this question.
The definition of toxic masculinity is basically stereotypical behaviours committed by men that negatively affect society as a whole.
Based on that, toxic femininity would be the same thing, except behaviours committed by female.
Both do exist, some people are just too stupid to realise the latter one does too or just ignore it, because they hate men and are so hell-bent on being the victim, that they can't take their head out of their ass and open their eyes up to reality and look at things from the other side, the feminazis, aka, certain users on here, including one who's answered this question.
It's good that people point this thing out too, instead of acting like only one side is bad and creating a whole gender war.10 Reply
+1 ySince feminism is the dismantling of femininity, and masculinity for that matter, such that feminists are pseudo-male-conditioned brains with proverbial dead-ovaries, dead-wombs, and dead-femininity essentially, creating terms such as toxic-femininity implies some alternate variant exists. Let’s see what comes out. Femininity is woman’s innate nature for the overall purpose of manipulating the masculine man ensuring survival of the species. It is her true power over him and is significantly more powerful than masculinity as it has been the genesis behind civilizations and major wars. A woman with a good heart and nature will use her femininity sparingly while the evil woman will use it as a weapon with everything from obtaining material possessions to murder. While I don’t agree these terms even exist at all (pc jargon only), toxic femininity (or masculinity) is an abuse of power essentially over the opposite sex. In either case, the toxic-___inity is used to exercise excessive misuse of natural power over the other. Feminism is simply an overreach that seeks to destroy and eliminate both (femininity-masculinity) entirely for the sake of positioning woman in a ruling class position as the optics only while of course; the ulterior motive is the destruction of family so that a dictator government can take over without “nuclear families” getting in the way as it did in previous attempts. This was original creation objective of the Frankfort School of Marxism; it was to find the reason communism failed, conclusion being the “nuclear families.”
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+1 yWe are seeing it now with the cancel culture, and all of the false accusations against men, just because they said that a woman looks nice or good. So, men are no longer able to compliment women, with out being accused of being sexist, or too masculine. If a man hears another man planning to do something to a woman that is bad, and they try to warn them; the woman sees the man as a pervert, and needs help, and one who has crossed the line.
Basically, men can no longer do anything that is not sexist according to women, and they need to be cut down to size. There are no good men, there are only closet pervert men who will show their true colors if yo allow them. It has gotten so bad, that a boy child was accused of being too masculine, because he said a woman looked nice. A child!!! For crying out loud!!! What do these toxic women want? No one can say anything good to them or compliment them, whether they are a child or adult male.
All this toxic femininity is beginning to produce men who are very feminine, and beginning to consider other men over the drama of these women!! This is not good; we are killing off our species, by driving a wedge between men and women. Pretty soon there will be no more kids, since none of these women appear to not want a real man; they want a subservient slave man!!! When crap hits the fan, and their lives are in danger; there will be no masculine men to protect them anymore, and they will die lonely, and unfulfilled.00 Reply- 1.9K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
u +1 y*gets neurotic and does everything, more and beyond to provoke you*
" go ahead and hit me, I dare you "
*physically attacks you first*
" go ahead and hit me you %#$%#@^%$^%$ "
I saw this exactly at the super-market, with a couple, nothing involving me... in front of everyone, and of course I don't else and I don't know better, but to me it seemed like those two actually hit each other, if it weren't for the fact that there was people around. His attitude was the same I've seen in other men that I know hit their spouses and stuff... anyway, to me that's just the most toxic people can get... both him and her, men and women, so I don't see this as a gender thing... it's just damned toxic people, in general... messed up stuff... so I am not sure why people has to do this about being a masculine or a feminine thing.32 Reply- +1 y
Yeah hitting people and thinking they won't get hit back just because she's a girl is pretty toxic
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@Still-alive yeah, and then she called him a coward, for not doing it, lol...
Toxic feminity is a a way of treatment where a woman bemothers and tries to control and manipulate to just care about her. I´d argue mom´s boy had a toxic mother because she never showed or let them take responsibility for their lifes.
It´s not just about emasculating or being mean to guys it´s also a way of not letting them take responsibility.
It´s a way of trying to do everything for him, so that he has to spend constantly time with her.
I don´t think it´s feminism in itself but it´s way of being controlling, manipulative and possesive.23 Reply- +1 y
I agree apart from that to me feminism seems to be the opposite of toxic femininity. Toxic femininity is typical of very feminine women. It would include coercion by threatening to trap him with a baby and things like that.
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@victoriaxoxo Yes I didn´t mean to say that feminism in itself = toxic. I rather mean it can lead into toxic feminity when it leads a woman to be self-centered.
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Yh I can see that
"Toxic" in Toxic masculinity/femininity means something that negatively impacts either the individual or society at large. In the case of Toxic Femininity all you have to do is list some of the stereotypes of "femininity" and examine how these things either are negative or can be twisted into becoming negative through circumstances.
For example the claim that men are more logical and women are more emotional which can then be turned around and be used against women to undermine their arguments because they are obviously not based on logical reasoning but flimsy bleeding heart feelings.
There are just as much, if not more examples of toxic femininity as there is female stereotypes.20 ReplyLabels are ridiculous as I've already tried to explain in Wowwgirls post, people are individuals and we should celebrate that fact more than anything else. I'm a guy who hates violence but has travelled from the UK to Vegas to watch a boxing match, I'm a guy who loves football but feels offended by how certain England fans reacted to losing in the final the other day, I'm the same guy who would walk through a wall of fire to reach someone but still not tell them how I feel. Labels hold people back, we should celebrate the individual.
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+1 yHyper masculinity is definitely a real thing.. Just last week at the store some jackass kept walking around staring aggressively at everyone sizing them up like he owns the place and was talking smack about other people I can't stand people like that.
And there's such thing as hyper feminism which is just females that dislike men and only act nice to other females, I knew a person like that at one of my previous jobs she was so mean to men like the first tike I met her I was super nice and she acted like a total b*tch for no reason and I found out by another who told me she just dislikes men and will only be nice or friendly to other women. Not surprising she soon got let go by the company.
So, Basically most people are good and really cool and some people are jackasses lol30 Reply
+1 yToxic feminism... Now I don't know what the women's definition of "real woman" is. But I do know this.
Real men don't like women who try to make them jealous.
Real men don't like women who think they can just get away with whatever they want.
Real men don't like when women have double standards (e. g. says women shouldn't be judged but will judge men).
Real men don't like when women have unrealistic standards either. (e. g. Over 6 feet with hulking abs). Blame hollywood for that.
Real men don't like when a woman has a history of bad experiences with other men. Trust me, they have their reasons there. In fact every male who abides by this does.
Real men don't like when women play stupid games to try and "test us". Hear me when I say, the moment we catch on, we will fail by our own free will. Men in general don't like women who play games. And I'm sure the ladies don't like it vice versa.24 Reply- +1 y
Oh, I forgot something.
Men DEFINITELY hate when women throw water on their problems. We are far more likely to die in this world, and just because girls are the main victims are sex crimes doesn't mean it doesn't happen to guys. In fact, male victims of sex crimes are treated HORRIBLY. Women have heard many stories of rape victims being treated badly after telling somebody, yet a lot of them will contribute to this when it comes to male victims. - +1 y
Of*** not are. Lol
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Best thing to do is be a better parent than her. Keep the kids on your side.
Essentially the same as what toxic masculinity would mean. Limiting what is considered feminine and coercing women to follow those norms to be considered normal.
Like if shaming men for crying is toxic masculinity.
Shaming a woman for having muscles would be toxic femininity.60 Reply593 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Toxic Masculinity is a man who imposes other men to be real men. Because your not a real man if you cry or something else whatever. And always needing to be Dominatant.
So Toxic Femininity would be a woman who imposes women to be real women. Because your not a real woman if you don't cook and clean for your man. And always needing to be submissive.32 Reply- +1 y
Yes I agree. Would also say women who think it is ok to gold dig on men, hit men, mock them for crying etc etc.
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@victoriaxoxo I would say stuff like a woman mocking a man for crying. Is a woman reforcing toxic mascuilinty onto a man rather than toxic femininty. But eh semtanics and both equal in toxic.
Gold digging is fine in my opinion if the other knows, For example if a guy wants a trophey wife and knows it's just deal cause he has that wealth. Well it's a cosented deal so not really hurtful. If she pretends to love them but just in it for the money then yeah, that's toxic.
410 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I voted C... being toxic as a person is not related to being male or female.
It's related to disrespecting people, being unjust, seeking trouble in discussions, playing false games and so on.
The person could be male, female, young, old and any culture.31 Reply
+1 yThe same thing toxic masculinity is - tearing each other down for not possessing the "typically feminine" traits, behaviors and attributes on the basis of which certain fragile individuals like to define themselves and others.
Which in the case of women are typically things such as - "unladylike behavior", promiscuity, preferring the company of men, following academic/career paths instead of homemaking and so on and so forth.30 Reply598 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. In my experience, toxic femininity is usually just toxic masculinity pretending to be feminism to make it look unreasonable.
But outside of that, I would say mothers asking their daughters "when are you going to have children/get married?" is toxic femininity.20 Reply1.8K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Why do we have to put a gender on it? Assholes will be assholes. Bitches will be bitches :x it's all the same to me
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+1 yUsing femininity to manipulate others.
Always playing victim and think the world revolves around you because you're a woman.
Not acknowledging men as people.
Bringing down other women.
Treating other women like their your servants.
Thinking being a rude and distasteful person is excused because you're a woman.50 Reply
+1 yhere’s @wowwgirls definition lolsss
Whinnying, being emotional, crying in public, expecting men to know how to fix cars or things around the home. Fears conflict, afraid of a lot including fighting and dirt, I could go on or...
A Weak and spineless girl, worships men and feels unworthy for them, cry's “poor me” all the time, wants to treat men like women. who has no sense of her own dignity or pride. Her only victory as a woman was a participation trophy for track day in 3rd grade.58 Reply- +1 y
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I honest to God don't necessarily think that you have a clue as to the character " Harlequin " portrays Oldman
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481 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I don't believe it exists, because things that would be toxic feminity, such as saying women need to look more feminine etc can be traced back to patriarchy and therefore is internalized misogyny rather than feminine toxicity. Rules of patriarchy have been established by people in power, which were mostly men to supress women, so the supressed can only gain power by acting like the supressor (aka masculine traits).
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😂🤣 "people in power", as if a democracy doesn't give people the power to vote, and women still can't vote.
You should try and expand your point of view. This extremist line of thinking is a horrible thing to have. If you say one side can't be toxic or sexist, that's the definition of sexism. And if you try and change the definition of sexism so that an individual in a group that is "oppressed" or "not the oppressor" group can't be sexist, that's once again THE definition of sexism.
+1 yToxic feminism is women supremacy. "Men ain't sh*t" or having some really out rageous standards like, "If he don't got a big..." or "If his name isn't moan-able". And that's very sus considering the stereotype that guys are pervs when we just wanna chill and play games. Also bragging about how their a 10 when their personality is ugly and deducts points making them a 1.
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+1 yIn the same way that toxic masculinty is about creating a narrow, unrealistic ideal for men and then shaming everyone who doesn't try to achieve that standard (like shaming men who are emotional, who enjoy classically "feminine" things, etc)
I would say toxic femininity is that same thing but for women. Shaming women for not meeting unrealistic standards, pushing this idea that there is a "right way" to be a woman and anything less is somehow bad.10 Reply
+1 yGold digging
Slutly behavior
Catty behavoir
Gossiping
Any woman who is collecting alimony from an ex husband. (Your taking money that you didn't earn. )
These are a few examples of toxic femininity.50 Reply
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt’s being passive aggressive, toxically competitive or sabotaging other women, making it hard for a man to please you to justify being man or withholding sex instead of being open about feelings or what would get her in the mood.
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+1 yWhen I was growing up we just called the person an asshole, or an idiot, or both. We didn't sit there blaming genders or hormones or calling them toxic. We blamed that particular person and didn't apply it to other people.
30 Reply Titles and common phrases created associations between words. "Toxic Masculinity" forms an association between "toxic" and "masculine". No matter how specific the original definition was, it's the association that persists.
I'd say that we should be more careful with language, but it isn't carelessness. Terms like this one are often created or co-opted from their original meaning to be used as weapons.16 Reply- +1 y
This is political talk point... Learn what you can do, enjoy hanging around positive people.
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Actually its a very descriptive term and not meant to do something so childish as to establish an association between "Toxic" and "Masculinity" just like how the female version is not either.
So what does it actually mean and why do we call it Toxic Masculinity/Femininity? Turns out that gender stereotypes always have a negative aspect that can be used against the individuals themselves and as such their own gender stereotype can become "poisonous" or "toxic" to themselves. Makes perfect fucking sense.
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yYes, it exists.
Gold diggers using men for their money by faking their love.
Or using men for any resource whatsoever with their seductive powers but not intending on keeping him.
Or marrying and then divorce-raping the guy. Pretty sure women don't understand this one or aren't going to mention it.20 Reply2K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Feminazis, forcing girls or “encouraging” them to act like the stereotypical vain housewife, reinforcing toxic traits in men like “men don’t cry!” Etc.
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+1 yEmotionally abusive
Nagging
Manipulating
Controling
Whining
Flirting with other guys when your in a relationship
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+1 ythere's no such thing. there's only toxic people in general. and it's ironically mostly those social justice warriors who professionally get offended on behalf of others.
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Oh please, has Republicans done anything else but bitch and whine since Trump lost the election? But I digress, "Toxic Masculinity" was pushed first by male rights activists. You know, MGTOW and such ilk who bemoaned how women were treated better than men and how men suffered from the stereotypes placed upon them.
Such as the expectations that men must be successful, strong and a paragon of masculinity. That is why they called this form of masculinity as "toxic" since it harms the man themselves. - +1 y
@Soteris yeah right as if mgtow would come up with terminology that makes themself look bad. i think you see how you entangeled yourself in that bs story righht there. it was butthurt leftist people who couldn't deal with the fact that not everyone liked their PC bullshit... why don't you stop trying to drag this in some bullshit poitical directon and just cut the crap to put on the table what the words you claim exist actually mean. there's no point in arguing otherwise.
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Well since this was in the 1980-90 it was not ACTUALLY the MGTOW movement since they did not exist back then, I just used them as an example because I doubt you have ever heard of the Mythopoetic men's movement or others like them.
The more we speak the more it is becoming quite apparent that you have literally no idea about where toxic masculinity as an idea came from, who used it and why or any other relevant part to this discussion. You just made up your mind on something and refusing to accept reality when it turns out your poorly educated guess was wrong. - +1 y
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I already outlined what toxic masculinity and by extension, femininity is in my 2nd reply to you. If you want a more "formal" definition then sure:
"a cultural concept of manliness that glorifies stoicism, strength, virility, and dominance, and that is socially maladaptive or harmful to mental health" - +1 y
@Soteris ok i'll take what you outlined then, if that was all you had to say. so the expectaiton that you must be successful and strong is not exclusive to men. its simply what life demands from people in certain situations. in situations, where life doesn't demand it, that's just being overly demanding towards the self or toward others in general. if you have that expectation towards others, you'll typically correct that automatically, cause others will simply shun you, if you do that to them. in the case of demaning too much of yourself, which men as well as women do, they typically need a therapist to sort out, which isn't a trivial issue.
that extremist notion that "men should be the paragon of masculinity" whatever that specifically means is also not an exclusive male Thing, as there's also women that hold those notions. therefore it's bullshit to call that "toxic masculinity", cause that word makes it sound as if it's male behavior and blames the entire group of men for that issue, which is not representative of how that problem exists. that's why i call the term "toxic masculinity" bullshit just as "toxic femininity". it's nothing but generalizing and accusatory terms that miss the essence of the issues they try to describe.
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assigning gender to virtues like "being stoic, strong, dominant, nurturing, caring" and so on is the sort of things to a gender is bullshit i don't buy into. and if we were top describe it correctly, it would be called "toxic ideal types". not toxic masculinity or femininity. there's no point for such words that will be abused and weaponised against the genders.
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@Soteris there's a lot of bullshit going on in the world of political correctness and social justice. and just cause some sjw comes up with a word doesn't mean they're right in using that word.
just like feminists came up with the concepts of "gender paygap", where they interpret "oppression" into an income disparity statistic that is completely bullshit or "male white privilege" or "patriarchy"... so much bullshit. can't even begin to rant about all the stupid shit people talk. - +1 y
@Soteris the issues with the word "toxic femininity and masculinity" that i have is, that they don't really have anything to do with masculinity and femininity. they are all about individuals having exaggerated or wrong standards. and calling them "toxic masculinity of femininity" shifts the attention to "men and women" as if they had anything to do with the problems that arise from those notions.
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*sigh* You have wonderfully missed the entire point AGAIN and gone on a massive rant that has nothing to do with the subject.
Let me repeat myself.. again.. Toxic Masculinity and Femininity is about the harmful influences of these ideas themselves. It is intrinsic, as in the very fact that you accept the existence of Masculinity and Femininity necessitates the existence of their negative aspects.
They exist, therefore they can have negative impacts on peoples lives. Simple as that. For you to erase toxic masculinity you need to erase the very concept of masculinity. They are the same thing, just different sides of the same coin.
337 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. It's basically all of the latest feminism. Especially the one claiming toxic masculinity. Because there is really very little of that. And it's not what theyvpoint fingers on.
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+1 yNot overall feminism but modern-day feminisn, the new stuff they keep adding. It can make women look less feminine but oh well.
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Oh an example of toxic masculinity are the incels 🤢
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Why are incels an example of toxic masculinity?
What does toxic femininity look like? - +1 y
Incels hate women they look down on them and act like women are less than.
As for toxic feminity, as I said in the comment above I said the new modern feminism. - +1 y
Saying "not overall feminism" would be same as saying "not over all incels but modern day incels" Like feminists saying the "other kinds" to defend their idea of that label. But in the end, it's just reduced into nothing more than just a label. All "kinds" of feminists don't agree on each other on what feminism should be with that one thing in common believing the patriarchy exist and "women are oppressed" ignoring men's issues and disadvantages proves it's a supremacy movement. And yea you can say "feminists supports men too" is basically the act of equality itself but only feminists claiming monopoly for the discussion for equality which is why it has to be feminism.
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Incels are the same as before as they are now look up the definition of an incel, there is nothing positive about the incels.
The feminism movement at the start is not the same as now, they are wayyy different from the feminist of the now, the ideals are different. - +1 y
Therefore feminists can be separated from original feminists to modern feminists.
As for incels, their position, meaning, and ideals remain the same so it is right to say overall all incels, there is no positivity in the incel community it's a community made from bitterness and hate. - +1 y
So is there had been radical feminists in the past which is still considered feminists unfortunately for you. And sure it started seemingly innocent because the "women are wonderful" effect was in that one because if that was a male movement, i don't think society would ever support that. So it's like everyone thought it was gonna be harmless due to the halo effect until it showed its true color and people had been debunking that one and turned out it isn't a movement for equality. Incels back then were just less tolerated compared to feminists. If you like to argue feminism started as a harmless movement, anyone can easily say incels were originaly just single guys who can't get laid who just gives up on relationships that doesn't necessarily have to be a hatred against women but you know in the past, there's such a huge stigma for single man. But as time goes on, it got more acceptable to be single and more incels shows they hate women so that is that. Same goes feminism.
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No, incels were never a positive group, to begin with, look up the definition of an incel. Feminism had a positive beginning and that is the difference that is comparing apples to oranges.
Whether there are radical incels and basic incel neither are positive, however between original feminism and modern feminism there is still one positive and one negative, unlike incels. Radical feminism takes away the point of feminism while radical incels send the same message.
Incels are men who involuntary can't get women and hate women BUT men who involuntary can't get women and aren't bitter about it aren't incels dont confused the 2. As I said before it was a group created on bitterness and negativity while feminism wasn't. That's all I have to say about this. When you google incel and feminism definition says somewhat the same thing I am trying to explain.
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And if you want to argue that then i can say the same thing to feminist. The only difference is that the dictionary is affected by women are wonderful effect because again men were less tolerated compared to women. If you really want to appeal to the dictionary, you also notice that communism doesn't seem so bad in theory because the dictionary said so until everyone does it in practice. And that is because action speaks louder than words. Those guys who just cannot get women and give up on women is what you like to call not incels even if they have no intentions of hating women, get assumed to be one which is why you got that idea saying incels are all bad because of accusations and guys being affected whenever their single. So yes words can change over time and the only difference is that incels changed so fast. People so the negativity of feminism just later. Which is also why there is a big difference between feminism and equality or egalitarianism.
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Communism never began from a positive motive and still isn't (however some who believe it was a good idea to their benefit) opinions differ.
Regardless of the new meaning of the words, the origin of it all is what matters because it will always be there within the community. The subculture of incels derived from toxicity AND they still do.
Many men who can't get women and aren't bitter about aren't associating themselves with incels because incels carry a negative weight, they carry on with their lives, so comparing them to incels are inaccurate.
Modern day feminism isn't real feminism latched unto the word feminism and added modern to it and it's toxic hence it's own group. Incels back then and now are still toxic, hatefull and entitled. We can agree to disagree, I will see it as I see it and you can see it as you do, I really dont care. Oh well. - +1 y
If it never began at a positive motive then how come the dictionary never said anything about communism being so evil?
And that's the same with feminism. And to prove that feminism isn't about equality is in the name itself. If you explain the origin of the name itself then of course there's going to be "because men are" like those words right they're basically blaming men. So yes actually still speaks louder than words.
Also because many women are accused of being bitter about not getting women if they give up on women which is why incels are assumed to be women haters and it is kept that way. If you like to keep repeating comparing it to feminism is inaccurate then i can keep repeating comparing it to feminism is accurate.
Just like that strawman arguments saying that modern feminism isn't the real feminism is also what the modern day feminism say about the classical feminism which is why they all have their own articles on what feminism should be because i'm gonna lay still cannot agree on what feminism should be making them toxic even back then. Because inequality is already toxic itself with an example would be feminism because if it was equality, it is equality not feminism
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Bossiness, hypercritical, manipulative, bratty, throws temper tantrums, hits people, lies constantly to get her way, uses her looks to take advantage of people.
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Constant asking of when you're going to have kids or find a man to settle with
Shaming other women for using different types of menstrual products.
"Real women have curves"
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yIf I had to guess... Anorexia and constant working out to look "better", along with using excessive makeup and various other things within their abilities to keep themselves looking young... Shaming and hurting other women for not looking like a straight up Barbie doll like they want to, and probably do, look like... And generally just being a bitch.
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+1 yCriminal and family courts biased system biased laws brainwashed society and the destruction of the family unit and abortion is celebrated. All men bad in everything and everything against men to the point men completely turn away from women. That's what toxic femininity looks like.
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+1 yIt's the whole passive aggressive catty backstabbing thing that seems to be drastically more common among women then men.
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+1 ywowgirl is incredibly bias and scared of any who can challenge her beliefs. i'd say in in a word--feminism. here's good showing of toxic masculinity:
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6FNRfkcSD-g20 Reply Toxic masculinity is ; toxic feminitity in the mirror. Without the equivalent to shame blame , u would only have toxic femininity is really all there is. There's NO such thing as toxic masculinity. But what there really is.. is the notion to exile and deny GOD and his masculine divine commanded commandments by women who despise him to put there needs and desires first and for most.
10 ReplyBravo Channel, ANY of the "Housewives" Shows!!! LOL!!!
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+1 yUsually, a toxic person is a toxic person, but there are some characteristics for each sex, for women is being victimising and using her femininity to manipulate, double standards and such.
50 Reply314 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Kicking a guy in the balls over man spreading and then congratulating herself.
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+1 yPlotting the destruction of a persons social reputation would be a common thing of typically toxic female behaviour.
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+1 yToxic masculinity is violence and toxic femininity is being a mean bitch.
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+1 yIts like if a girl sees you being a tomboy and wearing what guys wear and being like them, some girls would tell them "why can't you just act like a girl" or something like that but I don't know this was based on experience
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+1 yThe butt of any Kardashian girl. That's reallllly toxic stuff !
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+1 yToxic masculinity is something I see feminists talking about, toxic femininity is not a topic in any political discussion as far as I know, so there's no such a thing from this perspective.
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It's not a political topic because men have no voice in the matter. It's called censorship.
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@ThisAndThat No, you can start talking about it if you want, anyone can do that, but it never appeared in any discussion, including MRAs topics AS FAR AS I KNOW.
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And you'd be wrong about that too. It has appeared over and over and over and over again on forums across the net only to be scrubbed by women and their feminist sympathizers on all the websites.
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@ThisAndThat Okay sorry, my comment was bad.
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Ever heard of MGTOW? Do you have the slightest clue many sites have blocked MGTOW? They can block it all they want and it's never going away. I was MGTOW for many years before it even had its acronym because I got fed up way back when.
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@ThisAndThat Yes I already heard of it, but I don't like the community because the guys there say pretty misogynistic stuff, I'm sure not all of them are, but the community as a whole is pretty toxic, so I just avoid them.
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+1 yThere's no such thing. If you're born male then by default you are masculine, and born female you are feminine.
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+1 yInsecurity, jealousy_depression, obsessive thinking
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+1 yAny of the feminist leadership cadre is a good start , all are rabid misandrists & extreme loony left wingers & full of hate. They fail to realise all that hate burns THEM up... not the " hated males " .
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+1 yi honestly see more men walking on eggshells these days with their behavior and more women in general acting toxically masculine 😂
40 ReplyJust search Feminism on twitter and a majority of posts will be toxic hate screeds.
20 ReplyI guess the female version is just women and money. I don't know really
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+1 yI don't know what it looks like sorry, these are really hard for me
10 ReplyThey’d never respect their privacy and think it’s okay to whisper with others and didn’t care how I would feel because they’d think we don’t feeling. I’ve been there. They are awful. Cold. Thoughtless.
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+1 yWhen news and apps demand people to think differently instead of enjoying life and each other. Basic needs of seeing people and talking is the sensational way to live. Not this topic. Being an American or loving where you live or who u r.
00 Reply1.6K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I don't know I guess who doesn't want to cook under any circumstances or do anything traditionally feminine/ I don't know
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It’s actually the opposite as toxic femininity would be a woman who over embraces feminine traits.
+1 yUnhealthy obsession of your appearance leading to conditions like anorexia?
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yToxic masculinity and toxic feminity exist. Both men and women have bad traits
40 ReplyThe options you posted for the vote were very limited and rude first of all. Second of all women can be just as toxic as men. The stereotypical "mean girls". There's a Regina in every school and workplace.
10 ReplyIt's what people call "feminazi".
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yReputational destruction is a toxic feminine thing. So look no further than cancel culture to see the impact of toxic femininity today.
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