If toxic masculinity is real, then what does toxic femininity look like?
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Modern feminism (third and fourth wave) is what "toxic femininity" would be. Luckily, "toxic masculinity" nor femininity doesn't exist. If people are acting badly, that's just called being an asshole. And both genders and all demographics of humans are easily capable of that.
Being a jerk doesn't need to be gendered, however what these female feminist assholes refer to as "toxic masculinity" is just normal ACTUAL masculinity. And they dislike that. To them, in all their femsplaining logic, masculinity "should" be being as weak, effeminate, and submissive as possible. That way, these feminists can then feign being the psuedo-alpha-males they think of all men as being and usurp power.
In other words, they want to turn men into what they think of all women as being, weak and helpless damsels with no spine/backbone, and become what they think of all men as being, the cocky powerful rich asshole psuedo-alpha-males (which is especially why they're obsessed with Donald Trump; he's secretly everything they wish they were, and they're ridiculously envious of it). That's why they try so hard to destroy masculinity and replace it with bitch-boy tendencies. (Ironically, even most feminists don't like soy boys as romantic partners.)
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- Women forcing men to fight for the right to be involved in their children's lives post divorce.
- Women feeling like its acceptable to falsely accuse men of rape, sexual assault, sexual harassment, and domestic violence.
- Women feeling like its ok to hit men, because they can get away with it, because they know damn well that if he hits her back he will go to jail not her.
- Women using the term "Toxic masculinity" To shame things that are traditionally male, and at the same time feminize their male children. A good example of this by the way is a lady in Texas who tried very hard to transition her son to being a girl, and when he is around his dad, he is like a normal little boy.. she's a fucking monster and a perfect example of toxic femininity
- Women only dating men based on how much they make and what they can provide for them.. Seriously if you truly are equal bring more to the table than just sex.. And stop treating men like walking talking ATM's
- Women shunning and hating on women who chose to be stay at home mothers, and house wives.. Some women want to be mothers and wives..
- Women shunning and hating on women for any other occupation choice. Choosing not to have children or a family.. not everyone desires that.
- Women choosing to murder their children (not referring to abortion here).. 71% of all child deaths, child abuse, and child neglect is at the hands of women.. Not men.. A good example of this is a lesbian couple from Brazil i think, who killed their son simply because he was male, and refused to be female.
- Women choosing to silence men, and tell them to man up, when they admit that they have been the victim of sexual assault, Abuse, Domestic violence.. the list goes on..
s Hey, I almost expected this to get posted after Wowwgirl's post.
Pretty much the same, but basically the over exaggeration of feminine traits and the expectations of men. Holding ideas like; we are only here to serve men, that if we don't try to look as feminine as possible that we are somehow not doing our jobs, the expectation that we shouldn't have careers and that men are only here to take care of us, that we HAVE to start a family, that men who cry are considered weak and not worth our time, and there are plenty more, but I think you get the idea of what I am saying.
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Toxic femininity to me is when women are overly girly. They embrace their femininity to a point where it incapacitates them. They will go out of their way to refuse to learn things like basic repairs. They cry and complain and are always the damsel in the distress. They take very little responsibility in their actions. To these women it seems cute that they are so fragile but many men eventually find these women too annoying and dependant. These are the same women that mock men for crying or avoiding a fight because these women live to embrace and enforce stereotypes.
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The definition of toxic masculinity is basically stereotypical behaviours committed by men that negatively affect society as a whole.
Based on that, toxic femininity would be the same thing, except behaviours committed by female.
Both do exist, some people are just too stupid to realise the latter one does too or just ignore it, because they hate men and are so hell-bent on being the victim, that they can't take their head out of their ass and open their eyes up to reality and look at things from the other side, the feminazis, aka, certain users on here, including one who's answered this question.
It's good that people point this thing out too, instead of acting like only one side is bad and creating a whole gender war. -
Since feminism is the dismantling of femininity, and masculinity for that matter, such that feminists are pseudo-male-conditioned brains with proverbial dead-ovaries, dead-wombs, and dead-femininity essentially, creating terms such as toxic-femininity implies some alternate variant exists. Let’s see what comes out. Femininity is woman’s innate nature for the overall purpose of manipulating the masculine man ensuring survival of the species. It is her true power over him and is significantly more powerful than masculinity as it has been the genesis behind civilizations and major wars. A woman with a good heart and nature will use her femininity sparingly while the evil woman will use it as a weapon with everything from obtaining material possessions to murder. While I don’t agree these terms even exist at all (pc jargon only), toxic femininity (or masculinity) is an abuse of power essentially over the opposite sex. In either case, the toxic-___inity is used to exercise excessive misuse of natural power over the other. Feminism is simply an overreach that seeks to destroy and eliminate both (femininity-masculinity) entirely for the sake of positioning woman in a ruling class position as the optics only while of course; the ulterior motive is the destruction of family so that a dictator government can take over without “nuclear families” getting in the way as it did in previous attempts. This was original creation objective of the Frankfort School of Marxism; it was to find the reason communism failed, conclusion being the “nuclear families.”
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We are seeing it now with the cancel culture, and all of the false accusations against men, just because they said that a woman looks nice or good. So, men are no longer able to compliment women, with out being accused of being sexist, or too masculine. If a man hears another man planning to do something to a woman that is bad, and they try to warn them; the woman sees the man as a pervert, and needs help, and one who has crossed the line.
Basically, men can no longer do anything that is not sexist according to women, and they need to be cut down to size. There are no good men, there are only closet pervert men who will show their true colors if yo allow them. It has gotten so bad, that a boy child was accused of being too masculine, because he said a woman looked nice. A child!!! For crying out loud!!! What do these toxic women want? No one can say anything good to them or compliment them, whether they are a child or adult male.
All this toxic femininity is beginning to produce men who are very feminine, and beginning to consider other men over the drama of these women!! This is not good; we are killing off our species, by driving a wedge between men and women. Pretty soon there will be no more kids, since none of these women appear to not want a real man; they want a subservient slave man!!! When crap hits the fan, and their lives are in danger; there will be no masculine men to protect them anymore, and they will die lonely, and unfulfilled. - 1.3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. u
*gets neurotic and does everything, more and beyond to provoke you*
" go ahead and hit me, I dare you "
*physically attacks you first*
" go ahead and hit me you %#$%#@^%$^%$ "
I saw this exactly at the super-market, with a couple, nothing involving me... in front of everyone, and of course I don't else and I don't know better, but to me it seemed like those two actually hit each other, if it weren't for the fact that there was people around. His attitude was the same I've seen in other men that I know hit their spouses and stuff... anyway, to me that's just the most toxic people can get... both him and her, men and women, so I don't see this as a gender thing... it's just damned toxic people, in general... messed up stuff... so I am not sure why people has to do this about being a masculine or a feminine thing. -
Toxic feminity is a a way of treatment where a woman bemothers and tries to control and manipulate to just care about her. I´d argue mom´s boy had a toxic mother because she never showed or let them take responsibility for their lifes.
It´s not just about emasculating or being mean to guys it´s also a way of not letting them take responsibility.
It´s a way of trying to do everything for him, so that he has to spend constantly time with her.
I don´t think it´s feminism in itself but it´s way of being controlling, manipulative and possesive. -
"Toxic" in Toxic masculinity/femininity means something that negatively impacts either the individual or society at large. In the case of Toxic Femininity all you have to do is list some of the stereotypes of "femininity" and examine how these things either are negative or can be twisted into becoming negative through circumstances.
For example the claim that men are more logical and women are more emotional which can then be turned around and be used against women to undermine their arguments because they are obviously not based on logical reasoning but flimsy bleeding heart feelings.
There are just as much, if not more examples of toxic femininity as there is female stereotypes. -
Hyper masculinity is definitely a real thing.. Just last week at the store some jackass kept walking around staring aggressively at everyone sizing them up like he owns the place and was talking smack about other people I can't stand people like that.
And there's such thing as hyper feminism which is just females that dislike men and only act nice to other females, I knew a person like that at one of my previous jobs she was so mean to men like the first tike I met her I was super nice and she acted like a total b*tch for no reason and I found out by another who told me she just dislikes men and will only be nice or friendly to other women. Not surprising she soon got let go by the company.
So, Basically most people are good and really cool and some people are jackasses lol -
Labels are ridiculous as I've already tried to explain in Wowwgirls post, people are individuals and we should celebrate that fact more than anything else. I'm a guy who hates violence but has travelled from the UK to Vegas to watch a boxing match, I'm a guy who loves football but feels offended by how certain England fans reacted to losing in the final the other day, I'm the same guy who would walk through a wall of fire to reach someone but still not tell them how I feel. Labels hold people back, we should celebrate the individual.
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Toxic feminism... Now I don't know what the women's definition of "real woman" is. But I do know this.
Real men don't like women who try to make them jealous.
Real men don't like women who think they can just get away with whatever they want.
Real men don't like when women have double standards (e. g. says women shouldn't be judged but will judge men).
Real men don't like when women have unrealistic standards either. (e. g. Over 6 feet with hulking abs). Blame hollywood for that.
Real men don't like when a woman has a history of bad experiences with other men. Trust me, they have their reasons there. In fact every male who abides by this does.
Real men don't like when women play stupid games to try and "test us". Hear me when I say, the moment we catch on, we will fail by our own free will. Men in general don't like women who play games. And I'm sure the ladies don't like it vice versa. -
The same thing toxic masculinity is - tearing each other down for not possessing the "typically feminine" traits, behaviors and attributes on the basis of which certain fragile individuals like to define themselves and others.
Which in the case of women are typically things such as - "unladylike behavior", promiscuity, preferring the company of men, following academic/career paths instead of homemaking and so on and so forth. -
Essentially the same as what toxic masculinity would mean. Limiting what is considered feminine and coercing women to follow those norms to be considered normal.
Like if shaming men for crying is toxic masculinity.
Shaming a woman for having muscles would be toxic femininity. - 507 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
Toxic Masculinity is a man who imposes other men to be real men. Because your not a real man if you cry or something else whatever. And always needing to be Dominatant.
So Toxic Femininity would be a woman who imposes women to be real women. Because your not a real woman if you don't cook and clean for your man. And always needing to be submissive. - 410 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
I voted C... being toxic as a person is not related to being male or female.
It's related to disrespecting people, being unjust, seeking trouble in discussions, playing false games and so on.
The person could be male, female, young, old and any culture. - 532 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
In my experience, toxic femininity is usually just toxic masculinity pretending to be feminism to make it look unreasonable.
But outside of that, I would say mothers asking their daughters "when are you going to have children/get married?" is toxic femininity. - 1.8K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
Why do we have to put a gender on it? Assholes will be assholes. Bitches will be bitches :x it's all the same to me
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Using femininity to manipulate others.
Always playing victim and think the world revolves around you because you're a woman.
Not acknowledging men as people.
Bringing down other women.
Treating other women like their your servants.
Thinking being a rude and distasteful person is excused because you're a woman. -
here’s @wowwgirls definition lolsss
Whinnying, being emotional, crying in public, expecting men to know how to fix cars or things around the home. Fears conflict, afraid of a lot including fighting and dirt, I could go on or...
A Weak and spineless girl, worships men and feels unworthy for them, cry's “poor me” all the time, wants to treat men like women. who has no sense of her own dignity or pride. Her only victory as a woman was a participation trophy for track day in 3rd grade. - 481 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
I don't believe it exists, because things that would be toxic feminity, such as saying women need to look more feminine etc can be traced back to patriarchy and therefore is internalized misogyny rather than feminine toxicity. Rules of patriarchy have been established by people in power, which were mostly men to supress women, so the supressed can only gain power by acting like the supressor (aka masculine traits).
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Toxic feminism is women supremacy. "Men ain't sh*t" or having some really out rageous standards like, "If he don't got a big..." or "If his name isn't moan-able". And that's very sus considering the stereotype that guys are pervs when we just wanna chill and play games. Also bragging about how their a 10 when their personality is ugly and deducts points making them a 1.
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In the same way that toxic masculinty is about creating a narrow, unrealistic ideal for men and then shaming everyone who doesn't try to achieve that standard (like shaming men who are emotional, who enjoy classically "feminine" things, etc)
I would say toxic femininity is that same thing but for women. Shaming women for not meeting unrealistic standards, pushing this idea that there is a "right way" to be a woman and anything less is somehow bad.
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