What does it mean to truly forgive? Time? Action?
Could something like rape be forgiven eventually?
Does perspective on one’s experience being raped change with time?
Deep question at its core.
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Trending & News When I was working at counselling centre and from a couple of friends, who were raped, that is not going to happen.
example one girl was held over a weekend by 5 guys and raped repeatedly from the Friday evening until the Sunday evening.
Utterly horrendous for her, however there are worse ones.
The link below is of two young girls raped and tortured, cigarettes put out on them , boiling water threw on them, raped, then taken off to be killed. Read the links below, then think about if you could forgive…
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/jan/20/ukcrime.ukguns
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/abducted-abused-teen-tells-court-574779
also talked to guys that have been raped, they do not forgive either.
Yeah, not everyone will forgive something like that.
Nearly most won’t I would guess.
But there circumstances less horrendous, nonetheless horrible, that probably have been forgiven many times.
The closest I’ve seen to that is sibling rape, where a brother raped his sister, not really forgiveness more of understanding.
If you move to the non consent technical ones, you may find some, however those rarely end up in long term counselling.
On the whole not a chance, even death of the rapist does not mean forgiveness.
These are the ones that we can track correct?
We don’t truly know the statistics on those that do forgive their rapist.
Those that are raped but don’t report
We all know how under reported rape/sexual assault/battery is
The Office of National Statistics here capture reported cases and those that go to trial.
The entire area is complex, keeping it to rape is a simpler (but very complex) approach, you throw in abuse, that’s even more complex.
From experience sitting in on group sessions it’s going to be very low as in very very.
What I’m trying to say is, since we know rape and sexual crimes are usually under reported relative to other crimes.
I don’t think we know a perfect picture of the victims of these crimes
Likewise, forgiveness CAN be MORE common than the opposite, within the victims.
I’m not saying it is.
Maybe the majority just move on, without forgiving, which is extremely probable
What I am saying is based on experience, which I have in this area, there is no More common.
Religion may come in to it, however I know that in the deepest parts of a persons mind, there is no real forgiveness.
The emotional impact can take years to recover from, it often ruins in part a chance of a normal relationship.
I believe that most people confuse the ideas of forgiving and forgetting. To forgive someone means that you don't carry around a hatred for them or a need to seek revenge or retribution. It does not mean that you forget what they may have done to you and it doesn't mean that you stop taking precautions against them possibly repeating what they have done.
No. I couldn't fogive
Some people assume you can't move on without forgiveness. That's not true. I don't need to forgive in order to let go and move on from trauma. I don't let trauma or hurt consume me.
I think I could if I think about my healing and not their crime - bitterness comes when you focus on the other persons character and not on the personal need for healing and peace
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Ehhh no, I wouldn't forgive that personally regardless of my sex.
Look, once you have crossed a certain line you have proven that you don't give a shit about other people to a point where you are rotten to the core. People are responsible for their actions and their actions reflect their character.
I know someone who did. But i will never get that nor want to. It's not a forgivable thing.
Well, clearly it is forgivable hence the example you just gave.
Not by anyone smart. Dumb people forgive everything sadly. Someone would even forgive been killed by someone if they could somehow back. People are not all there sometimes when it comes to there patterns of thinking. It would be like saying, ah racism must be good just because one person thinks it is. Nah.
Just cause one person thinks you can forgive it and do so don't make it so.
It’s of course an individual thing.
Don’t you think it’s somewhat offensive to say that dumb people forgive when you don’t know their perspective or reasons for giving even though it’s for something that you consider unforgivable?
Well, okay, but that is her.
Someone else can be different.
It’s not just her, but a ton of other people I’m sure.
She can’t be the only one that has forgiven her rapist.
In a world of billions.
I don’t think I have though.
I’m just pointing out something that I think you’re missing.
Also, we really don’t know the stats on forgiveness
We really don’t know if this is common or not.
Well, isn’t that my point?
We don’t know
It can be forgivable
But obviously not to those that don’t think so
I don’t know what your disagreement with me is about
Well, I don’t think that was your initial argument.
Just because it is forgivable doesn’t mean it is bad, sure.
What mindset?
It is to some people
Isn’t to others
The mindset of trying to use this to devalue the importance of how bad rape is. There is a lot of people who try to do such things. They ask questions and try passive aggress around the issue just so then they can use it as some dumb point later on.
If you ain't doing that tho like i said great.
Yeah, I’m not doing that.
Not A Fucking Hope In Hells Chance.
You need to define "rape" with a question like this.
Feminist consider an unattractive man who looks at a woman for more than. Five seconds to be "rape staring". Could you forgive this man?
Very interesting that you say "a man". I know women who got raped by women... but usually women get a pass for raping. Like that famous actress Lena Dunham who admitted to being a pedo who raped her underage sister.
Probably not. He knew what he was doing
There might be exceptions, but in the general sense, no, fudge no
When it comes to physical assault or worse, I'm not only unforgiving, I'm vengeful.
In my heart, yes, I forgave all of them a long time ago.
Will I ever let them know so it can leave their consciences, not a chance, it's a deterrent from future behaviour
Could you forgive a man if he raped you? Women aren't the only people that get raped... No, I couldn't, wouldn't nor do I think anyone really could!
@Kevhanma rape is rape!!
Victims are victims
@Kevhanma women can get raped in the ass too you know, if she being raped, it's not like he's doing permission.. What a stupid thing to say
*asking permission
@Kevhanma Your point? Anyone male or female that gets raped whether in their vagina or ass, it's still non consensual rape!! And then too, don't you see, a woman could get raped in both? Of course not🤷🤦
@Kevhanma okay I'm done here.. You think because a woman has a vagina, she'd enjoy being raped.. What the f is wrong with you
I dont think there is any reason they could give to make me forgive them
One of us wouldn’t walk away. I’d be a step ahead, I wouldn’t be able to forgive a “god” who would allow it to happen.
My first boyfriend raped me 8 years ago when I was a virgins I’ve been trying to forgive him but I haven’t been able to.
you were a guy , so I guess I know where that happened.
Forgive them? Maybe. Let them be a part of my life? I'm not stupid.
Uh No
Never
Why should I do that?
Don't have a reason to
Nope
As rape is defined by Mary Koss whose statistics on rape in colleges have been accepted by and are frequently quoted by mainstream media, most women continue to have sex with their rapists.
I m not really sure but i think i did but yet i get angry sometimes
It depends. If they have gotten help for it and would not do it again
In front of the judges at court... Absolutely not, his ass is going to jail.
In front of God... Maybe.
supposed to forgive
@888theGreat nah I'm too petty to forgive.
No it cannot because that’s the lowest thing you could do to another human
It could have been things that got out of hand or alcohol too.
Of course not. why would or should anyone forgive someone who raped you?
Men should never forgive themselves for raping a woman. Why should a woman forgive them for that same action?
No. (Answer too short so I'm adding this)
Also to add, you don't need to "forgive and forget" to move on. You can hold a grudge, hate a person with everything in you and still move on from the situation.
I can agree with that
send him to Jesus then forgive, letting God do the Judgment
Sex is all they have to offer of course women wouldn’t forgive it was taken from them
Never. I'm not debating on this one.
They should murder the man if the justice system doesn't
No I definitely wouldn't
Only if I asked him to
I'm not even a girl & I wouldn't forgive them.
I could forgive but definitely not forget
Never.
Nope.
No. I would probably try to kill him too
Nope.
how can I forgive a dead man
No..
I think that’s something only God can forgive
Why are you asking only girls?
Nope
After I killed him
That would make you a worse person
@888theGreat sweetie, being raped is worse than death many times... I still have flashbacks occasionally and am forced to relive it over and over. Until you go through on it yourself, you have no idea what it means to be raped. I would have rather been killed... Death is a merciful vengeance.
@LindsayR07 Not if you end up in Hell , then it is 10,000 times worse than being raped.
@888theGreat I don't believe in Dante's Inferno, the Christian Bible makes no actual mention of "Hell", only a vague reference to an "abyss" which could be taken as literal.
@LindsayR07 It is referred to as the lake of fire.
@888theGreat that is Dante sweetie
@LindsayR07 Lake of fire is from the bible , sweetie. Don't die anytime soon , you still need time to prepare
@888theGreat where... Make reference
@LindsayR07 Revelation 20:14
@LindsayR07 Have you ever died before? No? Don't think so. Yeah, it hurts more because you are alive, but you are alive. Imagine you are dead. Worms will be eating your eyes and you can't do anything about it. You can be raped and learn to live with it and become a very successful person. As a dead person, you cannot do anything. Comparing rape to death is like comparing a shopping cart to a shipliner when it comes to carrying things.
no, they would already be in my kids' stomaches
Nope
Surely not.
Never
Nope
No I can't
wow this is so deep
No. Flat out no.
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