I've heard people do this because they're afraid of "appearing desperate", but in my opinion, it just makes them look rude and/or not interested.
Part of it may be that some people still like to play hard to get, are hot and cold, etc. Some seem to think it makes them seem like they have the "upper hand" or they want to seem like they have much busier and fulfilling lives with a lot more people to talk to than they really do, and for some reason it seems to be becoming a part of the culture of "acting cool".
I don't get it either, though. I even have friends like this who are shocked that nobody ever asks them to hang out anymore, yet they routinely ignore everyone's attempts at contacting them. What do they expect to happen? It's even becoming more acceptable for businesses to completely ignore customers' calls, even over urgent matters, and attempts of contact these days, without repercussion (a part of the overall decline of customer service). It certainly doesn't help that society seems to be way more keen on making excuses and using crutches/milking things than what was acceptable in the past, and so this is just feeding this issue. Anyway, I regress, but it's something I find highly annoying (and as unprofessional in the business world as it gets) as well.
No problem!
Firstly that is petty and narcissistic. I am glad I never dated anyone. I get too emotionally attach and you treated me like that over a text? Something is not right with you. You feel you feel you feel, but you don't bother to communicate how you FEEL to anyone. You assume and then you miss out on the relationship. A girl like men have LIVES of their own. You that lonely, learn how to live on your own and trying to trap a person in your box of misery. That is unhealthy. If YOU want something, SAY SOMETHING. I have more respect for men who say they want something instead o pretending and expectating. That makes other men look bad.
That is not common sense. It means you are too scared to communicate. If I didn't I wouldn't have friendships for decades. you can't even speak up to tell a woman what you want. I don;'t think anybody with common sense would want to date you with that mentality. Period. You are too selfish and then when get in it you can't keep it. NOBODY IS A mindreader. I am not playing those dating games. You can open up your mouth to say something. Your the one too scared to do anything so you run and say the person wasn't interested. How you treat people now, is how you will treat them when you date them. If I CONFRONT you and ask you a question, and you say nothing is it right for me to assume. NO, You will never have a good relationship by assuming about your "partner". You are not dating. You are trying to get to know a person. If you want something serious get a friend. But you don't want friends. You want sex. Not a relationship. You can't even form a relationship properly.
No. I know to speak to you like a humane being and a person. Not with that BS and claim ambiguity. If I am busy I am busy. I will get back to you as soon as I CAN. And your too desperate to think otherwise, not my fault. You are just that selfish, want what you want and you don't tell anybody anything. I DON; T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT. And until you tell me I am not playing guessing games like your 4. You're an adult. Your not children. GROW UP. You are just as bad as the women who play the same games to each other. And it's wrong. You've been programmed for that mess and now you can't find anybody.
You are playing games with a woman's emotions and trying to force her to like you, to be attracted. Women don't like GAMES. We expect ACTION. You shame a woman for being direct, then you get mad when she is indirect. If a woman now not like you being direct with her, all of sudden you want women indirect with you. you men who act like this as well as the women, unless she is inexperienced as the man is, do NOT even know what the hell you want. I can tell you straight, if you don't like me, just tell me. If you hate me, just tell me. If you love me, just say so. SHOW IT, but words of affirmation is very appreciated. I am a shy person. When I was little i was very shy, timid and very reserved. Especially when I didn't know you. I had to LEARN through LIFE how to communicate with people. The same I tell you, my FATHER taught me and that advice, despite our differences have been very valuable. I don't know if you have parents in your life. Or if they are alive if not I am sorry. But this is the #1 reason why families needs to be whole, healthy if possible and PRESENT. Or else the child if there is no teacher or mentor to show you how to socialize with people PROPERLY, you end up stuck. And if other selfish people influence you, you think they give a damn if you don't "get laid" or have a woman to hold at night? NOPE. They are focus on girl number 100 their banging tonight while you have a woman's interest to talk, but that doesn't always mean she wants to date you, date in general or whatever. Th emost a woman wants is a friendship. If you turn that down and she already started growing feelings and getting attached, guess what? That attraction goes down to not just 0, but a negative.
Think like the Sims. What happens to Sims when they have a red bar? The relationship is very difficult to repair. And then you lost out. DO NOT DO IT, MAN. You wouldn't like it if a woman did it to you, do not do to people you wouldn't want to be done to yourself. If a man is taking long to reply I don't GO BUNKERS. My friends do the same. It is no harm. Sometimes they forget to call back and they call back a day or two later. NO HARM. We love each other enough to understand and we have been friends for almost 2 decades most is over two men. You don't even have that much. I am grateful to God to have such understanding friends. I always make sure to reach when I can. I don't play those games. You would have to have really hurt me or scare me to distance myself from you. I would never want to hurt anyone so how dare you.
Coming from a woman who doesn't even date giving me advice is as rich as the type of friends she must keep. NO SHIT that nobody is a mind reader. If I keep texting someone when they ignore me multiple times, it's called harassment - then I have listen to Feminists bitch on CNN about men who keep pursuing them when they're not interested.
What games would that be? I'm going to ignore the guy multiple times to communicate I'm interested? Brilliant - that must be the type of friends you keep. I understand that you live in a world where unicorns exist, but women prefer men read the situation and believe me, I would rather have a girl tell me she's not interested so I can officially move on, but that's not how it works 95% of the time, unless you two have already gone out on a few dates and/or dating.
Oops! Sorry, I was too scared there to tell you the truth LOL. You're welcome to confront me anytime, but girls don't do that, but you seem to prefer to build a relationship based upon ignoring your partner or being flaky a lot of the time - that doesn't show consistency nor confidence that person can be a team player, but oh wait, how you treat people now is how you treat them when you date them right? LMFAO!!!
Your not my partner. I owe you NOTHING. If i want to get to know you that is my choice. you cannot force me. I have free will. Just like I cannot force you. You have free will. I am not that needy like you. You have abandonment issues and your not even healthy psychologically, mentally, emotionally spiritually for a relationship anyway. Somebody like me tells you what you can, you reject that. Ladies need to read this and see you and let them judge for themselves. Even MARRIED people come to me for advice. It's not about the experience. It's' about the WISDOM. And you lack WISDOM. Wisdom is given, you ignore that. So that is not my FAULT. I helped hundreds of teens, young adults etc get the relationships they wanted. They doubted me too, until they applied it, NOW their DATING. So it sounds like to me. You don't want to date. You just a pity party.
"Look at me, Look at me, pity me like a baby." That is all I HEAR from you, but you take no ACTION. Do you know how many guys tried dating me on this site alone? I told them straight. I am not LOOKING for a relationship. I don't have anything to prove to you. You just want to make excuse.
A woman doesn't have to LIE about how she feels. You just don't like our answer because it is NOT the answer YOU want to HEAR. I will NEVER tell a man I am not interested if I am. But how can I trust a man with my feelings and my emotions if he already disregards them? Like you just done to me right now? Then when I act cold and distant I get shamed for that. Damn if you do, damn if you don't. I don;t deserve to be treated this way because your that unstable. I have toxicity of my own I am getting healing with. But never again am I going to be this kind to a man who isn;t appreciative. You are by a stranger to me. And I do not appreciate that you choose to disregard me. I Saw what I say, be it harsh, and stern out of LOVE. Tough love. It may not be what YOU want. But it is the kind of love you NEED because you feel too SORRY for yourself and you expect as a man for a woman let alone your own peers to respect you. Every woman is not the same. They confused, uncertain and overthink. They star getting stressed when you stress them OUT like this and it cause them and us to feel NEGATIVE about you. And uncertain about you. And any feelings we may have developed beit big as a major crush, or small as in a slow burn romance. WE eventually have those desires burned OUT. And when that happens, when that passion and fire burns out. Guess what? So does any attraction of feelings we have for you. And once we know it's not able to respark? Then as much as it hurt us to do this to you, we have no choice but to move ON. As you freely have the right to move on to other people. No qualms or disrespect. You go your own ways in PEACE. NOT in pieces.
I hope this isn't your best. Believe me, even if it comes to that day when I am the last man alive, you will already have perished long ago with all your brilliant dating advice that HUNDREDS of people apparently use. Now that I think about, can you tell me what's the meaning of life professor? LOL.
Of course you don't owe me anything - just like I don't owe you anything, except when it suits your emotional desires. You can continue to ignore your partner or person you're seeing, but then you expect full compliance when you want it? I didn't know slavery was still around, but that's to be expected from someone who gives such brilliant advice to HUNDREDS of people, including MARRIED people - no wonder the divorce rates are so high LMFAO!!! Me being the last man alive - that's a vision isn't it? LOL
Wisdom eh? Wisdom must also mean application because clearly you can be a master in something without actually doing it. Why did I go graduate school? Perhaps you can tell me haha. Although, you told me I want a pity party, that's why I am ASKING a question for inputs?
I'm sorry too, that apparently asking for stable communication is too much to ask, but such is the expectation from people with WISDOM.
What games would that be? Me thinking the girl isn't interest so I decide to move on? That's definitely how I reattract women who I believe are not interested. People need to see your posts and realize the ego inflated princes you are because you are making WAY too many assumptions over only a few posts, but wisdom so yeah.
And that wisdom thank God comes from heaven. I was born with some of that knowledge the rest was revelated, taught or I discovered it on my own unless I picked up a book and study it. Relationships come naturally for me. Especially as an INFJ. We are called natures counselors for a reason which is why many of my types pursue those careers. And even if I perished long before you, so be it. As long as I am at peace with God, that is all that matters to me. That I done the right thing and not dishonor my God.
"Now that I think about, can you tell me what's the meaning of life professor? LOL." GROWTH, to overcome this world, to make it to the very end, to do what your purpose for this life, to follow God's commandments. And most importantly, to be BORN agan.
"Of course you don't owe me anything - just like I don't owe you anything, except when it suits your emotional desires. " Relationships are give and take. One cannot just takes, takes, and takes while the other just gives, gives, gives. That is not an equal relationship.
Tell you what, I'll keep texting and calling the girl I went out with every week until she responds --- or files a police report even after texting her a few times over an entire month and getting no response. Then I'll say it was WISDOM that led my actions from a nobody on GAG. Sound good?
" Believe me, even if it comes to that day when I am the last man alive, you will already have perished long ago with all your brilliant dating advice that HUNDREDS of people apparently use." SO why don't you ask this user right here who seems very happy to hear what I have to say:
A Christian man/woman relationship. Who is in the wrong here? Advice badly needed from both genders, especially females. Is this normal? ↗
I found out my best friend was talking behind my back? ↗
My boyfriend has suddenly started putting in more effort. What does this mean? ↗
AND many more with my top ones from last year. So I DO NOT have anything to prove to you.
SEE. THAT is how you potentially get arrested because YOU are stubborn as hell and don't know how to communicate or talk to a person. If any man spoke and act as you treated me. I would tell her to do whatever she got to do. YOU DON'T DO THAT TO A WOMAN OR ANYBODY. You lack social skills. Nobody MINDS you talking to them. Be POLITE. Be CURIOUS. Be ASSERTIVE, but not ASSUMING. And it's clear you don't know how to talk to people if you're that scared a woman would report you for harassment. Unless she says it is, it is not harassment unless you're trying to bug people. If this is how you act, then you sound annoying, I wouldn't be surprised that you have no male friends either. Even my male friends would wonder where you've been to not know how to talk to people. You never learn all the time by constantly not doing anything. I had to learn that the hard way and that meant making mistakes. I have far more life experience socializing. But dating is a personal matter.
I don't care what other "dating gurus" want to say about "dating rules". Dating is PERSONAL. Nobody has the right to enforce others' rules on me when that may not be how I desire to date. In fact. I rather not date, I rather court because I WANT if anything a marriage. And I am not dating a man I cannot find myself marrying. Dating gurus will say "Oh don't talk about sex on the first date" Scratch THAT. If I cannot get those answers as a friend, then on the first date I want to weed out who shouldn't be there. Are you a virgin and sexually active? OH, it's not appropriate to not ask, then guess what? Don't scream I accused you of rape if you put your hands on me sexually when I am not that kind of woman. I ASK because I don't want to date a man who isn't compatible with me. You want premarital sex, FINE your right. You're just not dating me. You don't want marriage, fine. I can find a man who does. It is not personally offense to YOU. WHY do you take offense? "Different strokes for different folks, right?" Respect that.
I’ve got say…I’m quite impressed…. You’ve shown me that : 1) you don’t even know the facts of my case and are jumping to A LOT of assumptions about me, 2) YOU were the one that started to insult me first, yet you claim to speak to me in a humane way, 3) you get mad when I disregard your feelings, but you can disregard mine?, and 4) I have the right to move on to other people, yet you lose your shit when I do? Yet another contradiction – I feel horrible for all the people that wasted their money on you.
If these girls want to move on, then move on, life is way too short. I won’t be happy, but that is her choice. You don’t have to prove anything to me. If you don’t want to answer then don’t. HOW you communicate is just as important as communicating. Sorry, am I disregarding your feelings again? LOL
Aug 1 (a few days after our first date)
“Hey Y! How was the fundraiser? I had to catch up on sleep and work since I was falling behind ☹I’m about to hit the grill though! Anyhow, what’s your schedule looking like this week?
Aug 2
“Hi X. Happy Monday. Were you ever able to find out about leasing options? How did the meal come out? This week I’m quite busy. I am leaving to Miami on Thursday evening and I need to leave everything in order before leaving.
Aug 2 (about 4 hours later)
“Happy Monday as well Y! The meal turned out great! There are no studios that have balconies here, and the ones that do are at min around $1900 ☹ Miami? I’m jealous, the beaches are amazing over there. Anyhow, it’s all good. Please stay safe because the newest CDC report states that ¾ of vaccinated people did catch COVID again against the Delta variant!”
[No response]
Aug 9
“Good morning Y! Just giving you a shout, I hope you’re enjoying your time at home! When are you coming back to Z by the way?”
[No response]
Aug 28
“Hey Y! How is your first week of school treating ya? It’s going to be a very busy one for me, but I’m learning a lot! What’s your schedule like after this Thurs?
[No response]
After this point, I thought she was no longer interested.
SEE!! NOW THAT is how I get arrested because I’m stubborn and I don’t know how to communicate right? #fail. FYI, I’ve never had a girl file a police report against me, but hey, thanks for assuming again – all that wisdom LMFAO... I’m in law, so I hear the craziest stories and the gender bias against men in 2021 is horrific. It’s better to be cautious.
Most of my friends are actually men by the way, but thanks for playing. Of course you don’t care about what other gurus say, YOU are too stubborn to learn other POVs and would rather believe dating should ONLY be X - say hi to Mickey mouse for me.
You talk about how no one should force certain rules, yet that’s exactly what you’re doing right now SMH. Fundamentally speaking, you’re just as idiotic as those Feminists. You want me to consider how you feel, understand that not all woman are the same, yet if I disagree with your style, you start whining and bitching. After all, it’s all about my choice or is it all about you? Oh wait, silly me, you can having dating standards, but I can’t.
She didn’t respond after 3 times and over a whole month and half has passed. And you know what? That’s fine, I respected it, but now she wants me to come back when emotionally I’ve already begun to disengage and move on. You didn’t want me then, but you want me now? Maybe, but usually I say no because I’m not emotionally interested anymore – that’s in the past. It’s time to meet someone who values my time. I always respected her time and always tried to move things forward at her pace (she has a long history of being flaky with me – even my female friends told me that she was a flaky person).
In my opinion, both parties have at least some responsibility to communicate their interest, especially after the first date – assuming of course they’re still interested. I showed my interest 3 times, but she didn’t bite – okay, no problem, but don’t get mad at me if I decide to move on. I respected your decision, yet she can’t respect mine? WTF?
All actions aside, it’s clear she still really likes me, otherwise she wouldn’t be going crazy like this in class. At the same time, I let her flakiness go for a LONG time because I understood she was probably busy, but after the first date, yeah it made me think twice. How the hell can I rely on someone who’s being this flaky? What is the relationship going to be like under these factors? I’ll humor you and give me your analysis, or am I forcing my dating rules on you – like the horrors of wanting stable communication?
You claim you're in love but it says that you are that desperate and you are so disconnected from The Real World you don't know how to communicate with people Eric firstly it's a person is showing through the actions are definitely not interested in you you know what you need to do at that point. Nobody told you to wait a whole month and then you want to blame a person for not communicating with you. I'm seeing through all of that asked you are shown yourself to be desperate to the hilt.
Oh, you want to say your in-law I got news for you. You're not talkin to a real person you're talking to somebody who's probably been trolling you the entire time! That person is more unlikely not even looking for anything with you. Plenty of those kind of people online that goes to show you for somebody who is in law you don't even know if the very thing is going on behind a freaking screen. Thats chick bounced ages ago. And that is if that's even a chick how do you know for sure you wasn't speaking to a man? I bet you you met this chick online and you never even met her not even one time.
If you heard nothing August 1st, or August 2nd she ghosted you. She is dating someone else. Or else you would have got back to you. You really don't understand half the things you're doing and you're the one that's been going on a date. She ghosted you. Whatever made her lose attraction to you she lost attraction or whatever. I don't blame her based on how you talk. But for argument's sake say you really did do the right things, she ghosted you.
And I can tell based on your responses and how you had posted all those replies, you still telling me a lot about you. That you're very needy, do you need to be more discerning especially if you're going to be in law, and you got to really pay attention. It is very clear you really do not know what needs to be done. That person didn't just ignore you, they ghosted you. You literally wasted days if not a week and a half trying to speak to a person who wasn't even looking for you to begin with. That is practically a whole month. You tried and that's it I give you credit for that. The issue is I can tell you don't know the dating rules, seems but you want to judge me. I'm sorry to tell you I want to give it an answer you shouldn't had over a month ago. She Ghosted. By Aug 1. She ghosted. It should have stopped the next day with the communication. You should have blocked, you should have deleted her number and information, and you should have moved on.
Do you even hear yourself? When did I say was in love? My name is not Eric. You’re getting desperate, counselor, because you really need to pay attention LOL – this girl is in my law school and unfortunately in my class this semester – I only said that like 5 posts ago SMH. We never met online, but hey, thanks for assuming…. again. When you misconstrue what I’ve said like this, it makes it seem like you’re either disingenuous or just illiterate, which one is it? I suppose getting paid only $10 an hour is truly a triumph for those with WISDOM LMFAO!!!
If you can’t even discern the facts that you were first whining and bitching at me for having unrealistic expectations, forcing my dating rules on other people, and losing your shit when I decided to move on to another girl…. OVER A TEXT…. to now you should have left her after Aug 1/2 – AFTER THE FIRST TEXT ------ you have real deep insecurities that you need to work out. PAY ATTENTION! LOL.
You keep saying that I’m needy based upon my responses, yet you’re making the genius level iq assumption that my replies are in response to my general behavior, especially when it comes to something such as dating. Fun fact: SHE was the one who got very angry when I began to talking to other girls and I only stopped (at least in our class) because……………if you saw how much pain she was in when I did that (it wasn’t to get to her or anything, I just thought she wouldn’t care)….. even I got depressed and decided to stop because I don’t want to cause her pain like that.
I don’t know the dating rules? True, no one always has ALL the answers, except you apparently. Here’s what your WISDOM won’t tell you: in my experience, girls don’t usually like to respond when they’re out of town, BUT they usually get back to you when they get back into town – at least the interested ones. My ex girlfriend would do this and a few other girls over the past year did this EVEN BEFORE we went out on our first date or second to third dates, that is why I let it go for about a month because she was back home for a few weeks. When she didn’t respond to me by the time school started I thought it was over.
Then however, she got mad LIKE YOU would when I ignored her when she was smiling, playing with her hair, and flirting with me because she felt rejected when I did not respond. A girl who truly is not interested won’t care if you don’t talk to her anymore. When she saw me talking to another girl after class, she went into a COMPLETE 180 turn and tried to talk to me – I saw this as a possible confirmation of “hey buddy, please ask me out or text me.” Women don’t just come out and say “hey ask me out again because I’m ready to go out with you again” as much as I would prefer women just tell me that they’re ready, but this the REAL WORLD honey. I decided to try one last time and she never responded, so I officially ended it.
Right now, I’m just trying to verify if my analysis is correct, and so far, you’ve given me nothing of use except a counselor who can’t stick to her ideals.
No, your analysis is literally flawed with bias and fallacies. You prove you have no knowledge of even the people you dated and it's sad. It is truly sad, I pity you It's best you leave your detective work to your law career and NOT IN DATING. Because you sir, sound like you like mixing that up with your personal affairs. OF COURSE, I would be mad because your playing freaking games, and then when they play those games with you, you're pissed. You lack self-awreness.
@btbc92 So now you’re BLAMING voice typing for your mistakes? What’s next, the Devil made me unqualified for my job? Regardless, I feel the effort being put in by my counselor, but I’ll give you a 1 star out of 5 for at least some effort. Move on? That’s what I have been doing, but you’ve been constantly whining like a whiny little crybaby about “why should I invest in someone when I get emotionally attached, but they then move on OVER A TEXT?” That was the whole premise of your argument - you’re a walking red flag.
Again, what games would that be? This is the third time I’ve asked you this and you have at least from what I remember, not given me a solid answer. She didn’t respond, so I decided to move on [apparently you seem to have forgot that it is a sin against God now for the man to move on], but now you’re blaming me for apparently NOT moving on and playing games. If a girl, LIKE YOU, can’t handle when a guy moves on after YOU were the one who ghosted him, you have serious issues with yourself and have piss poor management system of how to communicate.
I’m clearly failing to see my flaws because I’ve only asked about 20 – 30 people about this case, and so far, your analysis has been the only extreme one, but such is the case when you’re unqualified for a job. So sorry, but the law applies to everything you do, ignoring it is like ignoring your physical and mental health, or are those MARRIED couples you counsel should in fact NOT consider actions such as divorce and its’ consequences? Silly me, I forgot, you live next to Mickey mouse.
Correction. YOU never gave that info with all of that typed out and you made it out as if you were chasing after a woman you were still in contact with when she clearly WASN'T. Or do we have to go back to text messages AGAIN? I made sure to read it thoroughly. And secondly, I CAN blame it on voice typing. I am at my computer now. I was NOT when I was previously speaking to you this MORNING going to the AFTERNOON. Thanks to internet problems, what MORE do you expect me to do! On an old phone with only wifi at that! Now back to your crazy nonsense and biases.
"I’m clearly failing to see my flaws because I’ve only asked about 20 – 30 people about this case, and so far, your analysis has been the only extreme one, but such is the case when you’re unqualified for a job. So sorry, but the law applies to everything you do, ignoring it is like ignoring your physical and mental health, or are those MARRIED couples you counsel should in fact NOT consider actions such as divorce and its’ consequences? Silly me, I forgot, you live next to Mickey mouse." You people are selfish, toxic, narcissistic, and most people who comment and agree with you are exactly that. 9/10 people in this world are just that and you want to know why I am extreme? Because I don't tolerate BS. You got Bullsh*t, excuse my french. That's what you are. I don't treat people like you do. I have every right to decide who I want to talk to, when and when able, no different than my friends and family which is why again, I have my decades of long friendships while every single thing bothering you people walk and replace the person. NARCISSISTIC. And immature.
Only LEGAL reason to divorce is ADULTARY.
You got abuse? Fix it.
You hit another person? You better stop.
You threaten the person's life, then don't expect that person to want to stay with you?
You shame a person for not having sex, don't EXPECT them to want to have sex with you! And any "Sex" you have with them, they HATE it because now they learned to hate YOU. This is why so many people, especially women avoid you and rather have sex with a man who treats them RIGHT. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. But that is what that tells me. So do not blame me for things I have NEVER DONE. I study what you people do and I learn to do the opposite. What you people call NORMAL, is ABNORMAL and it;s toxic as hell. Your mental is that messed up and because everybody else is like zombies you think it's normal. Then when they treat you the same, you ask why? SHOCKER. Because they don't care about you either! that is how messed up you people are, why the divorce rates are high, why men beat on women, and women shame on men, and the kids grow up seeing it and you EMULATE what you saw and do you this by PRACTICE. It's ingrained in you people to do this. Psychology and thank god I got an A talks about this. So I do not care about what your so-called counselor said to you. What makes you think they're stable either? It is rare to find secure people. And according to attachment theory, I can tell you are not secure. Secure people do not BEHAVE this way. You have an insecure attachment style. Don't believe me? Look it up. People who have secure attachments do not worry about this stuff.
She replies alone between Aug 1--Aug2. I assume the last one or 1st reply was hers tells me she saw something in you on the first date that told her red flags. And was too scared to outright tell you what she really thought, kindly gave the last reply, and then she ghosted. That is what she did. So you know that tells me about you? You a red flag to women. And I can see why look at you speak to me? A red flag and you're scared. Your behavior scares away women and you see no flaws within yourself, and that is narcissistic which I guarantee they saw this and wanted no part of it. I do not blame them. So you can give me a 1 star all you want. Your 1 star to me is me being #1 in the quality of answers I gave you, you just hate the truth. I will not sugarcoat the truth for you. You may be good in your career, and I pray you do well in your Law career and I hope you are happy in your career. BUT, when it comes to relationships, you have a lot to improve on. I apologize if I came off as a jerk. But I told you my honest opinion of you and your situation.
My suggestion as I told you many times over, but if you choose to be STUBBORN. Then plan on being alone. DATE A FRIEND. AND NOT a stranger. SOMEBODY your compatible with, STOP BLAMING AND ACCUSING. LEARN to LISTEN. ASK RELEVANT QUESTIONS, and learn to control your emotions. If a woman behaves a certain way around you, they may not be comfortable. You tell me you intimidate people and that throws people off. I highly suggest that when you are out in public to have peers, friends, whoever is familiar to hang out with you and to observe you and others' reactions so they can give you a character assessment on you. You have a lot of work to do and I can tell you never socialized much, maybe that is why you come off as aggressive in your behaviors. I can see myself which is why I am telling you as I used to behave that selfishly around others. It's destructive, it makes people dislike you, be afraid of you, and lonely. I think I told you this prior but that just shows you don't listen. So consider this my final advice. Either take it or leave it. Stop complaining. I don't why I have to repeat myself like a broken record. I told you now that I remember this, over and over and over again. LEARN TO LISTEN because you're making the same mistakes. Your pride and your ego are what are failing you. Not me, not these women. You're failing yourself. And until you get out of that pity party mess you got going on in your head, you need to wake to your reality. The things your doing are leaving you lonely.
@btbc92 Here’s a REAL correction: I told YOU long before I even gave you those text messages info that you were jumping to conclusions – and you STILL kept jumping to conclusions about me. Maybe YOU should go back to your posts and keep hoping God will save you from an argument you are clearly losing.
Of course you’re an extremist, and a predictable one at that – you prefer to live in a world of black and white binary thinking. Despite life typically being full of gray. Such binaries lead you to ASSUME that somehow, you also know all those 20 – 30 people quite well – I’m sorry, are they part your DECADES long friendship too, or are you going to keep blaming your voice translator? LMFAO!!!
Oh I can blame you because YOU are the one that came onto my question and answered it. I didn’t ask for your opinion. I already told YOU that if you don’t want to answer than don’t, but keep going on and on like it’s holy crusade – hey, didn’t such extremism lead to centuries of death and suffering between Muslims and Christians, or is that ideology as flawless as your POVs clearly are?
First, it was the blame game, now you’re playing the victim, could you be any more of a predictable woman? I hate to say it because I generally like people, but you are a good religious woman so.
Things may have turned out different if you actually knew how to communicate with people, but clearly, you prefer to whine and bitch your way to the top – equality is the name of the game.
@btbc92 The ONLY legal reason to divorce is adultery? I must of forgot the men and women who beat or pathologically control their spouses. A good female friend of mine, who by the way, is a friends with benefits with me and wants to see me again #doublefail, was married to a horrible narcissist who emotionally abused her for years. YOU are assuming people like her ex husband CAN stop – once again, you fail like an amateur at APPLICATION because you think wisdom can replace it. Another case is a woman who constantly threatens her husband that she was going to falsely report him for rape and physical abuse if he ever left her. What do you do then? Stick with people like that who are constant source of misery because the ONLY reason people should get a divorce is adultery – well said sweetheart.
For an INFJ, you are SO narrow minded, but that’s what extremists are unfortunately. The counselor I was talking about was YOU – Christ almighty.
No, the real tragedy is a woman who thinks she is secure, but continues to whine, bitch, blame, and now play the victim on this question over the past 2 days, but you got an A in 3rd grade talks. Congratulations, this is the result it led to!
When did I tell you I intimidate people and throw people off? SMH Tell me genius, if she saw red flags in me on the first date, why would she reply to my FIRST text AFTER our first date? Does your mom still spoon feed you? The fact that you’re putting SO much emphasis on my replies as a sign of my general behavior is as self aware as they are accurate – please don’t breed.
"Here’s a REAL correction: I told YOU long before I even gave you those text messages info that you were jumping to conclusions – and you STILL kept jumping to conclusions about me. Maybe YOU should go back to your posts and keep hoping God will save you from an argument you are clearly losing." NO, I was not. I had a feeling you were the problem and you still try to cover up your antics. You are simply not a person these women want. I would have more respect for you if you told the truth, and you dragged it out longer than it needed. I didn't need all of that info. All you did is hypothetically incriminated yourself and you think I cannot read the exact message. Your replies show you are unhealthy and unfit for a relationship right now at your age until you learn to let all of that GO. NONE of what I ever said would change your mind. You are that stuck in your ways and you destroying yourself. And I am not arguing with you. You want an argument, I grew up with that. I know people like you, you are toxic and unlikable. Period. You just want to control people. And you're abusive. Your behaviors and responses are toxic. How you talk to people, to me, to others, what you expect which is unrealistic is toxic. I can never find myself in a relationship with you anyway and I would have left in less than 5 mins. I wouldn't even bother pretending to be nice. I would have told you to have a good day and walk. And even block your info and delete it on the spot in front of you if I have to give you the message it's OVER. I told you. I have no time for BS.
"Of course you’re an extremist, and a predictable one at that – you prefer to live in a world of black and white binary thinking." That's why I don't have all of that baggage you people have because I know right from wrong and when you have problems your screaming, whining, and complaining. If you had listened the first time, you wouldn't be in this mess. Not my fault you don't follow directions and not listen. I can tell your one of those kids like an old classmate of mine who was expected to hand in homework and he gave the professor lib with an attitude thinking he doesn't have to listen. He was lucky the professor didn't kick him out. That's who you remind me of. That kind of kid. One who doesn't listen then blames everybody else for their problems. Instead of a growth mindset you have a limiting FIXED mindset.
And what does a fixed mindset look like:
- Avoids challenges (you)
- Avoid feedback (which your doing right now)
- Threatened by others success
- Desires to look smart (you)
- Gives up easily (you)
- fixed abilities
All from the fixed life journal's site. So instead of fighting with me, why don't you educate yourself:
biglifejournal.com/.../growth-mindset-vs-fixed-mindset-differences-and-how-to-shift-your-childs-mindset
You need to read that. I do. I know where the source of my problems comes from. You don't want change. So you suffer. And then other suffer because of you not changing.
"Despite life typically being full of gray." Does not your job come with laws and in your law? LIFE is full of black and white. There is a right and there is a wrong. If you steal you are wrong. If you lie, you're wrong. If you rape, you are wrong. There is NO GREY AREA. You get pregnant, you have a choice. To keep the kid or you're sadly going to abort them. Abortion is wrong. But you people think it's right. It is still a choice. God still calls it to sin. All your telling me is that you don't know how to navigate in this world. That's why you assume everything is grey. When it's not. Grey sounds depressing. I guess that is why everywhere I go, there is an Oppressive atmosphere because the people in the environment are TOXIC and oppressed. DEPRESSED. Sending negative energy and others become affected. That is why I now stay out of toxic places and people.
" Such binaries lead you to ASSUME that somehow, you also know all those 20 – 30 people quite well" Actually I know enough for my sociology teacher to say that I know how to use my sociological imagination. Which is not imagination, just observations about people. I learn to discover about myself. While girls are talking about boys and boys talking about who they want to screw, I was at the library, picking up books and learning things. And anybody I interacted with, were only people who shared the same values as me. And those who I didn't get along with, I still studied them too. Most of them have home problems and come from broken families.
I was studying "psychology" a lot earlier while you boys looking at sports illustrated. And guess what? I even study that also. Even Cosmopolitan. AH, you think I don't go to places to study? I do. Even Jezebel. com learning all about what I need to know about you sick people. Still have my old mag too. And what do I do? Shake my head. No wonder why most of you are screwed up. So screwed up, it is known friends with benefits doesn't work. What do many of you do? Still do it anyway. Even I studied those rules years ago. That didn't mean I was going to participate. Study yourself approved. And secondly, those 20-30 people your liking on these questions I encountered on here and know their character and personality VERY WELL. They're just as toxic. Some more extreme others a bit tame. Again. Study yourself approve. Know who is your enemy and who is your friend. And last I checked. No. I don't have friends like that. My friends are mostly Christian now, many came from other religions, some are atheist or agnostic, some rich others poor, some are middle class, many from divorced households and I was the only one who had parents still married till my mom died. So what are you talking about. They don't behave like this. I had friends who weren't friends who did. They stole from me, bullied me, picked fights with me, and deliberately kept me from hanging out with them. Never invited me. My friends from middle school NEVER done that. I still have contact with about 4 from elementary school. I really do not understand why you feel the need to attack my life and my character.
"A good female friend of mine, who by the way, is a friends with benefits with me and wants to see me again #doublefail, was married to a horrible narcissist who emotionally abused her for years." WOuldn't surprise me you both sound that screwed up and unhealthy so of course, she wants to see you again. She doesn't that you are just similar to like her abusive ex-husband. I know what kind of man you are. Secretly abusive until she gets you angry and then you emotionally abuse her also. She is attracted to abusers like you. Not a surprise. So double if not triple fail on you. She is a victim who keeps dating and marrying and sleeping with men who are the same kind of people: ABUSERS. You are a narcissist and abusive also. She went from one bondage to another bondage. What was the point of divorcing if she just "married" by having sex with you? She just married another abuser. You. So she is stuck. She has a choice now if she wants to keep attracting abusive men. You're no different. I don't care who you sleep with. I wouldn't want to sleep with an abuser or have kids with one. your just as miserable and so is she. Unless she dumps men like you and gets some serious help, which your not going to like, but aw well, that is the only time she can be truly free. Your not a good influence and you remind me of that sick man on that Show YOU stalking a woman he badly wants sex with. That is how much you ooze problems. I am a good judge of character. Your just, not it. All you attract is toxic women like yourself. Definitely not something to admire.
"When did I tell you I intimidate people and throw people off? SMH Tell me genius, if she saw red flags in me on the first date, why would she reply to my FIRST text AFTER our first date?" Are you THAT hard of hearing! I told you she was SCARED of you! You sound like a man who if a woman offended you you would have landed the first punch and you butt would have got arrested. No wonder why she acted like she was still talking and avoided you after. You have PROBLEMS. You told me through your actions, your words, your behaviors. You imidate others because you seek power and control. And manipulating others is how you get it to feed off of. That is being a leech and you are only with these women to leech off of.
"Does your mom still spoon feed you? " My mom died in 2015 from terminalal cancer. I hope you proud of yourself. Proved my point. Now I am going to block you.
"Firstly that is petty and narcissistic. I am glad I never dated anyone. I get too emotionally attach and you treated me like that over a text? Something is not right with you. "
in other words you are admitting that you are the problem but also claim that "there is something wrong with him" in the same exact sentence
@CasaNorba I am not the problem, I LOVE PEOPLE. It is a problem to LOVE YOU? Or do you want me to HATE you? You must want that. Because it is clear you people know nothing about love. You reject it. Then you blame others for YOUR problems. So, if I am the problem. My problem THEN, is giving my LOVE, MY HEART to a PERSON who has shown he is UNDESERVING of it. Don't come looking for me afterward. I will not accept you back.
No there is something wrong with you. If you have to treat people that way, and you can read up on Communications and relationships. You're telling the person you are selfish. And selfishness will breed unhappiness. You cannot have a happy, healthy relationship if you are selfish. It cannot mix.
A woman is not the problem from showing and dedicating her love, time and compassion, patience and effort. Itis you who doesn't know what love is and how to accept it, because either you wasn't shown, or somebody left you neglected or changed your perception on love. SO NOW you hurt OTHERS the same way they hurt YOU. YOU are the one who needs to be honest with SELF. Instead of condemning a woman for loving you. Then don't look towards a woman to give that if you don't want that. I have no problem loving others. But I will not be abused.
That means you are not loyal, you are impatient, you don't know how to communicate, have empathy, and you like to assume. All things that are essential to relationships, you lack. And you don't learn. I would NEVER do this to somebody. If a guy say never talked in a week, I am not going to assume that toxic mindset! I will WAIT as long as I have to. As long as I can trust he will reach back? That is TRUST. Do not relationships require TRUST? You are that distrustful of others and you give them no logical reason, how do you think they will react? ANGRY, and HURT. And they have every right to be. I should not have trust issues because you men don't know how to communicate and be honest.
So I CAN judge and say that it is petty, which it is, and narcissistic, which the person is doing. I would never treat anyone that way. I am open to relationships with people. It is not my fault you choose to take advantage of me. Then when I am closed off, you judge me too because you are so entitled and selfish you think you can just take, take and take and don't give equally in return. I don't ever come to any relationship (friendship) with INTENT. That is you, people. Not me. If you chose to mistreat me because it's the desire of your heart. Then your evil. And I rather not associate with evil people.
@btbc92 just because you love someone does not mean that someone HAS TO love you back. if you think loving others means you're entitled to demand love in return then you obviously have either an emotional problem or a personality disorder.
"So, if I am the problem. My problem THEN, is giving my LOVE, MY HEART to a PERSON who has shown he is UNDESERVING of it."
yeah that is why you dont give these things to folks you recently met or started talking to lately. if this is what you do then people are bound to see this as nothing but a red flag
@CasaNorba I am going to correct you you're not going to have a choice but to keep your mouth shut bad enough your in error as it is.
"just because you love someone does not mean that someone HAS TO love you back." it does if your married. And if a person have no desire in showing that. I can easily pull back and move on. I will not waste my time as that chick ghosted him after the first date. I don't have to beg you, but neither do i have to date you. You are not entitled to me, either.
" if you think loving others means you're entitled to demand love in return then you obviously have either an emotional problem or a personality disorder." I do not have to demand love from anybody. That is you. I don't do that to anyone. Which is why I am now selective in how I share that with. I don't have to think. Like i told the other user, I wouldn't have over 20 years fo friendships if I think that. I know out of my friendships who is loyal, who loves and who doesn't. Says what you don't know.
"So, if I am the problem. My problem THEN, is giving my LOVE, MY HEART to a PERSON who has shown he is UNDESERVING of it."
yeah that is why you dont give these things to folks you recently met or started talking to lately. if this is what you do then people are bound to see this as nothing but a red flag" CORRECTION, Who says I would do that to people I recently met or starting talking to anyway? You people are so backward. I would not and never date a stranger. But a male friend I am already CLOSE to, have a connection with, we already love each other, and mutually desire the same who also shares my desires, values, standards and most important who is also compatible with me.
Why would I ever date a stranger? The first time a guy asked me out I told him the same thing. Heck, I told plenty and every man the same. I don't KNOW you, people! I don't know your age, I don't where you come from. Heck, I don't even know your NAME. Who are you to me? I don't have you have to date you if I don't want to? Why should I? Talk about entitlement. So good I am a red flag to people who are a red flag. I don't want people who are toxic and is a red flag. People with your mentality. Good bye!
Ask for my number: my answer is NO. I do not have to give it to you and I don't trust you.
If I don't trust you, I don't have to disclose anything about me.
If you behave in manners I dislike. I am not going to like you anyway.
I don't care if your rich, I turned down rich men too.
I don't care if you are blond and blue-eyed. I turned down those also.
I don't care if you got it made.
I don't care if all the other girls want you.
Or if your handsome.
IF I don't KNOW YOU. I do not have to date you. If you are not my friend for X amount of years and I can see the TRUE You. Not this fakeness "Oh, honey, your so sweet!" NO. If you cuss, if you spit on people I want to SEE IT ALL, SO I can decide if I want to mess with you or NOT. I am not dating a stranger. Any and all will be rejected. PERIOD. No wonder you run from me. You men are sneaky, and if you want my personal opinion. I don't trust you, either. There. Now you know.
Buddy, if you were my so-called friend, no offense, not trying to lower your self-esteem, to appear vindictive, a B, or anything. But for argument's sake as an example. No chance in hell would you have a shot at dating me. Point Blink. So do not think you can shame me and you no knowing about me. This is why many men do not want to date me. Because they cannot get over on me like they can on other girls. I AM hard to get. I don't PLAY hard to get. Got it? I hope so.
@CasaNorba Yeah, she was shaming me for moving forward after it was the GIRL's decision to possibly ghost me after not texting me back, but they got all butt hurt and triggered like she always does when I did not give up after the FIRST text.
That's to be expected though from a religious extremist nut case who thinks she's God's gift to the world.
You can stop your lying because i never shamed you at all. You just want to be very selfish and you entitled. And to be honest I gave you more leeway than I needed to, and I should have had you blocked the first time. I forgave those 3 mishaps. This time. I FORGIVE. BUT I don't want to deal with you any longer. My response is to him. I cannot answer him while I had you blocked. It was your question, and it would be rude of me to message him when he may not want to be bothered. I know him well. But since this convo is offer. Your going back to "blocked jail". Have a nice day and a nice life. Take this comment however way you want to take it. I will no longer continue overexplaining or communicating with you. You have proven to me for 4x since our first encounter you are not a person to be reasoned with or talking to. This is completely one-sided and I am DONE. COMPRENDE? QA'phe? Wakarimasuta Ka? In other words: DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING? If so. I have no more to say. ByE BYE.
"it does if your married."
he's not talking about marriage he's obviously talking about the texting stage which is technically the first stage of trying to start dating. so if you are already thinking about MARRIAGE in this stage then you obviously do have some sort of clingy issues alright
@CasaNorba Do not even BOTHER. He is a lost cause, he is butthurt himself and he is just a victim who doesn't want to change. He is selfih, he doesn't CARE about love, that's why he's making it up with his divorced friend who is unmarried from an abusive husband. He is no different. H just wants your validation because he is that unhealthy. I have spoken to him before. This in, fact, is NOT his first account. Now that I remember, HE didn't like what I had said, and I had him blocked. He created a NEW ACCOUNT, this one, and also gone anonymous pLENTY of times. He had and has MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. And every time I have him blocked, he creates a NEW ONE. And then have the nerve to say I am harassing him, when I wasn't. Ever since then, he was always Anonymous on here. Now HE ISN'T. I spoke to him before. I should have blocked him when I sensed that I should have. But I didn't want to waste my time on him, so I often tried to ignore him as much as possible. And I warned him before. If he made more accounts and try to make it out I was harassing when I wasn't, his account will be reported. He knows that. And he stopped.
Oh yes, I'm very entitled, that's why I like to bragg about how all men LOVE to date me - including bragging about men on GAG -- it's SAD when you have to use online people to support your claims, yet you say we should be friends first. You're an unfuckable loser, don't ever forget that.
No... please!!! Don't block jail me!!! My life as YOU know will be over. My ego is broken. Woahhh is me!!!
@CasaNorba There is no freaking TEXTING STAGE. Get out of that fantasy nonsense. no wonder why you men and some women are single with issues. You're making up stuff, calling it a trend and you hurt each other. It is toxic. But if you people love to play that game, and call it dating. Have at it. I am TIRED of reading and listening to whinny men and women who don't want to LISTEN to sound wisdom! You people do what you please. You're making up things that don't even exist in real life. And then when you're not getting the results you want, you are miserable.
@CasaNorba I hope you realize this guy never moved on. It is now Sept 13, and he is STILL talking about her. The girl moved on last month. Read his replies on his text. He really is that clueless. And you have no right to judge how we "women" would be butthurt when that has nothing to do with us. He is just BITTER. Can you not read what he is saying? He is bitter and unhappy. And he doesn't want to seek help for it. He says he has a counselor, but I bet you he is doing crocodile tears at their office and they are soaking up every lie he tells. Don't be a fool.
Multiple accounts? It sounds like the Devil also works in mysterious ways too. This is and always has been my ONLY account, but now you're jumping to conclusions and making assumptions AGAIN. If I truly am a lost cause, why do you keep responding?
Yet another contradiction in your extremist ideologies. You are living proof on why the Chinese think the West is in decline.
@CasaNorba There is no stages in dating. Either you're not going to date or you will? Serious people have no time for that foolishness. If you have no idea what you want, it is YOU who needs to stay out of it. I know what to do. I am not dating according to your way or the world. I will do so as God leads me. Like I told him and proved to him, I have helped thousands of people on here alone. GaG is just another platform to do just that. To give people the tools to have a better life. It is up to them to listen or not. I do not have the financial means, licenses, etc to speak to others in real life. Even professionals with over 30 years of experience would even offer to write letters of recommendation to put me in to school for PSYCHOlOGY and even offered me an internship in their office and they will show me the ropes and get hired. Says what you know. They even say, "wow, your this age? Your so wise for your age and mature. Did you ever thought about becoming a counselor?" Huh? If I didn't know how to date, many of my friends wouldn't wonder why and they never done any of that. They did it differently. Now their married and with kids and many got married as young as 18, still today and happy. Your dating WRONG. BUT you can do whatever you want if that is how you wish to date. Just stop complaining. Can't tell a person to stop the breaks if they don't want to. If you crash, that's on you. Don't drive drunk.
Inbox. You have issues. And you need to fix it. You deliberately choose to take someone's words out of context because you are resentful, bitter, and hurt. That is not me insulting you. Tat is FACTS from what I am evaluating of you. You are definitely in need of a psychotherapist. Somebody who can administer medication and behavioral therapy. NOT just a counselor. But somebody who can try to help HEAL your mind. Because your suffering. And your creating fantasies with these women that isn't there. If that is not a cry for help and a possible sign of mental breakdown or illness. I don't know what is.
@CasaNorba Oh yes, the girl clearly moved on, that's why SHE came up to try flirt with me in class and that's SHE gets angry when I talk to another girl because that's clearly a sign of a girl who has moved and SCARED of me to. It sounds like you can't tell the difference between dangerous men and good men - no wonder you're so full of wisdom.
Being butthurt has NOTHING do with you women? Okay, so then your feelings don't count then right? Or were all these replies over objective interpretations and NOT how you feel. Remember, YOU do NOT get too emotionally attached and you treat me like that over a text right?
@inboxInbox. You have issues. And you need to fix it. You deliberately choose to take someone's words out of context because you are resentful, bitter, and hurt. That is not me insulting you. Tat is FACTS from what I am evaluating of you. You are definitely in need of a psychotherapist. Somebody who can administer medication and behavioral therapy. NOT just a counselor. But somebody who can try to help HEAL your mind. Because your suffering. And your creating fantasies with these women that isn't there. If that is not a cry for help and a possible sign of mental breakdown or illness. I don't know what is.
@CasaNorba Because firstly YOUR the same as him. Bitter and resentful. I remember you years ago. You were NEVER LIKE THAT. NEVER LIKE THIS. I do not know what has changed in you for the past 8 years. I am not bitter. My actions don't show I am bitter. My actions show I am tired of trying to help people who don't want to get help or get better in life. I will not sugarcoat the truth. The truth is both of you need help. I went to a counselor already. And you know what they said? You've been abused. You're not a fault. ENOUGH.
I don't have to be in a relationship to learn and know what already needs to be done. It really isn't that hard people. You make it harder and you make others not want to deal with you. If your parents never showed you that, then no offense, they failed in that department. That is what the family unit is for. To show and teach you how to have one.
"Oh yes, the girl clearly moved on, that's why SHE came up to try flirt with me in class and that's SHE gets angry when I talk to another girl because that's clearly a sign of a girl who has moved and SCARED of me to. It sounds like you can't tell the difference between dangerous men and good men - no wonder you're so full of wisdom.
Being butthurt has NOTHING do with you women? Okay, so then your feelings don't count then right? Or were all these replies over objective interpretations and NOT how you feel. Remember, YOU do NOT get too emotionally attached and you treat me like that over a text right?
PAUSE. didn't you just say she moved on? Who's lying now?
Buddy, I wouldn't be your counselor. I would have referred you to a psychotherapist with a letter of concern and if authorities had to court-ordered you to go, since you in law so much, that is where you would be at. Suspension without pay until you get help. I would not deal with you at all. Because you sound definitely with some Bipolar mess without actual meds. I took Psychology 101. Most symptoms you present tell me your borderline something. I guarantee you, and you're not diagnosed.
That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't 100% sure, that's why I'm asking for inputs - it is YOU who said the she has ALREADY moved on and also SCARED apparently. You have issues. And you need to fix it. You deliberately choose to take someone's words out of context because you are resentful, bitter, and hurt. That is not me insulting you. Tat is FACTS from what I am evaluating of you. You are definitely in need of a psychotherapist. LMFAO!!!
Sweetheart, your opinion will be mocked and looked down upon by court officials and would probably take your license away because I have a no criminal background and yes I have been diagnosed, with none of the problems that you mention by ACTUAL professionals who HAVE A PHD or MASTERS. I understand you can't afford one, but stop acting like you do have one, when clearly over the past 3 days, all you shown to me is you like to force realities with false info just to win your argument.
I told you in not so many words the first time, she was INTERESTED. I TOLD YOU, NObody is a mindreader. IT was you, who F*cked it UP! But no, you had to try to CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE. And I rather your posts, and your TEXT. And I read it as that message was perceived. That she ghosted you. It was YOU who wanted to paint a pick that wasn't THERE. You are that insecure and you f*cked it up royaly. WHose fault is that? Stop lying! NOW you're telling us a day after like you did with that girl how she is still flirting with you in CLASS? You are manipulative and SICK! And everybody needs to see the kind of sick gaslighting manipulative games you PLAY.
Oh no. You are that sick. And I guarantee you if I was licensed, they wouldn't. Because when I confronted you the first time, you took a good while to not respond. I promise you, you more and likely do, AND I do not say that lightly. I know people who do and you actually behave EXACTLY like them. You never disclosed what you actually have so I think that just adds on to the list of you not being credible with no facts whatsoever. Funny how you in law and you sound like you cheated your education all the way through.
endorse? all I was saying is that you are the one who's in the wrong if you expect a person you ignore during the texting stage which is obviously before the first base to attempt to continue to initiate contact and of course that is not natural for you to "love" someone and demand that person to love you back. now that indeed sounds like the typical thinking of toxic individuals.
also @TruthBringer is sending his regards and wants you to know that he still is with his Christian girlfriend and they had wonderful sex when they went on vacation. While you're sitting here projecting your issues onto happy people
@CasaNorba I don't ignore people I am busy. I always tell people that and never would I ignore a person. Please do not be a false witness. If you hearing me being busy isn't good enough for you. Then you have problems. Not me.
STOP with that TEXTING STAGE BS. You people do that. I would never date that way. That is why I said I will never date a STRANGER. ONLY A friend. My friends already know me, they do not have to assume a person. If you people want to go through all of that heartache dating strangers, you get what you put out. I don't see how you can expect unrealistic expectations when most of those people you speak to actually do not care about you anyway. You really do not get it for somebody more experienced than me. Otherwise, you would have understood. You are still hard of hearing.
@CasaNorba I do not associate with him, and he was warned before and that is why he got blocked and reported and his comments removed for harassment. The fact I haven't spoken to the jerk in over a year shows how much he is that insecure. Must be secretly "in love" or something, I never even bothered to remember the guy, so please stop playing message and stop butting into others' business. I don't care if he is or isn't. His life is not my business.
Why the hell do you toxic people if you are so happy, act so miserable, and feed into this stuff? I mean really. I barely forgot the guy. NOW your playing message boy and REMINDING ME of why I had him blocked? He is a lair also with freaking trauma issues he wants to dump on people. He said this last year.
I told you. O do not demand for people to love me back. YOu do. You demand we talk to you now, on time. That's love. You're the one demanding love. Not me. You really are that uneducated about the affairs of life. Quality time, which is texting is, is one of the five love languages. Get educated before you want to tell me how to speak to another man or other people. And again, I don't care about that user you bring up. The fact that he is stalking me to this says he got problems.
@btbc92 We were JUST talking about her interest based upon her TEXTING style and AFTERWARDS – do you have ADHD or something? Based upon your responses over the past 3 days, it’s YOU who is trying to talk to me actually. In your world, the truth is what you make it.
Oh no, I lost your respect – I won’t be able sleep tonight – can you prescribe some abien for me? Oh wait, you can’t. LMFAO!!!
How many times are you going to say GOODBYE and keep coming back like a typical woman the moment the guy moves on? Are you that incapable of sticking to your ideals and word?
It took me good while to respond? I’m sorry, I thought women might be busy and that’s why they don’t respond to texts – I suppose such wisdom like observations don’t apply to GAG responses.
@btbc92 If you actually knew what you were doing in life and actually APPLIED your ideologies, you’d actually understand that in law school, it is VERY difficult to cheat because ALL students are monitored during examination. I understand you’re getting paid only $10 an hour and can’t pass the MCAT, but I’ll pray tonight when I go out with my new date for dinner. I’ll extend my hand out and we’ll begin to say:
“I am thankful for my daily bread, lead us not into temptation, and let us forgive those who trespass against us and may btbc92 eventually find a way to pass the MCAT and get out of poverty”
Blocking people, that must be your way to resolve fights that YOU started – brave woman.
Disclose what? I thought people’s business were not your own? Contradiction after contradiction after contradiction. STOP LYING hehehe.
How’s dad by the way?
Lmfao btbc92 is trying to give you "advice" and shaming you in the process while she herself can't even follow her own advice. Hence why she is 29 and never got in a relationship. Men are avoiding her like the plague. Judging by how many paragraphs she bombards you with, it is a clear indication that she got many issues.
Unlike what she thinks, you're in the right to leave whenever you don't get the vibes of a woman being interested in you. And it's no rocket science to figure that one out. But little prima donna btbc is trying to shame you for not continue to simp for a woman who isn't interested or at best trying to use you.
Yeah, just another brilliant woman who can't handle their own medicine, then play the victim or blame game, but it's always the man's fault so. I agree with you - I think I've given her enough chances to come back, but she's playing games and I'm just going to sit back and see how things play out. I gave her quite a few chances because I really like this girl.
She likes me a lot too, but I think she was thrown off guard when I decided not to speak to her when school started anymore or at least very little. Regardless, I think her being flaky like this after our first date is a red flag.
As always, thanks for your opinion my man. Hope you're staying safe over there in the Netherlands!
@Inbox Yeah don't bother yourself with that psychopath. She bombards you with paragraphs full of insults which actually shows you how she feels about herself. Mind you that this is ironically someone who is a "good religious woman". She thinks she has the right to insult others, but no one should dare do that to her because people "don't know her". And yet she acts like she knows everyone. Pinnacle of hypocrisy. Like I said, there is a reason why she is 29 and no man bothered dating her or putting a ring on her finger. Hence why she resents men, which she is projecting onto you.
And good thing you stood your ground mate. Many of these women throw shit tests around or are attempting to keep a dude on the line while she continues to seek out "Mr. Perfect". The only reason why you threw her off guard was because it didn't work with you like the rest of her simps. If she acts flaky even after the first date, then I would indeed just assume she lost interest. If she didn't, then she will try to make things right. If I would you, I would just continue to persue other women. I remember some girl was trying to be wishy washy with me when we were talking online and I wanted to meet up in person. All she did was come with excuses like the notorious "work schedual". She missed her chance and had to watch my Snapchats as I was hanging out with my now-girlfriend. That was right before I removed her from all of my contacts
@TruthBringer Women like her who think they know everything are usually hypocrites, but that's life. Maybe we should push for equality right mate? LMFAO!!! Yeah, I don't regret standing my ground because if there's one fact I've learned after studying so many areas of human behavior (warfare, economics, relationships, SJW, politics, etc) and going through so much adversity in this life is that in the end, 9/10 times, it is logic that wins out, not how we feel necessarily, despite it being a vital component. It sounds like karma got to her ;)
@Inbox I remember that this trash of a woman was trying to shame me for leaving a toxic relationship full of lies, deception, depression and racism. She claims that I "abandoned" my ex, while all I did was leave my ex in order to keep whatever sanity was left in me in tact. Because God forbid that we men refuse to stay in toxic relationships that tear from us bit by bit instead of seeking out loving and peaceful relationships. As you can see, she has a habit of making shit up and assigning false realities onto you. She literally makes shit up and holds you accountable for the shit she herself made up. If that's not something a psychopath does, then I don't know what.
She also has a habit of shaming people for making past mistakes that they already acknowledged and learned from. And yet she still shames them hahah. I usually don't wish bad upon people, but I seriously cannot wish her anything good as I have no sympathy for sociopaths. This girl is going to die alone if she keeps this up and I'll be laughing at her from the sidelines. For the sake of men, I truly hope she remains single. Just imagine what bloke has to deal with an insanely damaged woman like her. Did you expect anything better from a damaged woman who is on this website for over 10 years?
You can send her my regards and tell her @Truthbringer is laughing at her, especially since more and more people are realizing what a sociopath she is. And tell her that I'm still together with and enjoying my Christian girlfriend lmfao
LOL, yeah she claims to be this great psychologist, and somehow the girl I was seeing is terrified of me, yet SHE was the one who came on to me AFTER our first date in class and started a conversation with me even though I was the one who stopped talking to her in person. A scared woman would never engage with a guy who she sees as dangerous.
I’m sorry to hear about your Ex man. I was fortunate enough not to have ever actually date women like that, but I certainly have liked women like that and as always when things go south, it never ends well. In her mindset, women can do no wrong apparently.
You’re correct that she likes to push false realities on to you: she calls me a narcissist, yet I always enjoy helping people LOL.
Believe me, I would send her your regards, but she ended up blocking me because she couldn’t handle it anymore hehehe.
Sounds good and thanks for the support man! You’re always welcome to shoot me a question, but I may not be able to answer it for some time because law school this semester is kicking my butt!
Ah yes, classic behavior of the snowflake as soon as she realizes she is losing the debate. Always blocking after having "the last say". Like I said, this sociopath shames people for losing toxic individuals (like herself) in order to save their own sanity. I kid you not, this sociopath HATES the fact that I found love and peace with another woman. Not only because it contradicts her entire view about me, but also because people don't conform to her extreme black-white ideas. So she hates to see things work out for other people who have not followed her "advices". That tells you everything you need to know about her. Funny how she gives "advice" in relationships and dating while she has never experienced one herself. Explains why she has such twisted and out of reality views. It's like I get lessons on how to fly an airplane from someone who has never been in a cockpit.. Doesn't make sense at all. If there is something I've learned in life is that when I take advice from someone, I make sure that it's someone who is SUCCESSFUL in the area that I want advice from. Btbc92 is perfect example of one you should avoid.
When it comes to the girl you went on a date with. Never question your intuition. Not only is it common sense to assume someone lost interest when they become flaky, but if your intuition tells you this, then it's usually right. No person who is interested in another is going to act flaky. The girl obviously tried to keep you on the line for free attention/validation whenever it suits her. But she got mad when she saw you giving that attention to other women. So she feels entitled to you, even though it's none of her fucking business. Fuck her. You don't owe her shit. Continue talking and dating other women. She already wasted her chance with you. I've seen you mention that you stopped talking to others because you didn't ike to "hurt" this girl. But did you forget that she has no care in hurting YOUR feelings? She completely disregarded you and your feelings when she started to act flaky... Ditch her my man.
All best to you and your studies. Don't forget that you're the prize, not them!
@CasaNorba and @Inbox I'm reading your arguments with the snowflake. I'm literally laughing my ass off and enjoying how you two are tearing her to shreds. Unfortunately, I can't join in since the snowflake had blocked me a while back after assigning false realities onto my story adn accusing me of things I've never done. Just so she can have the last words. Which is what she tried to do with you @Inbox. She attempted to block you in order to desperately have the last say. Only it seems that after all these years (10+ years) on this website, this idiot still doesn't know that you cannot block the author of the question and not expect him to still reply. Inbox, you hold the power here. You can also choose to block her and remove her answer all together if you wish.
@TruthBringer @CasaNorba Yo boys! It's been a while! To conclude this, we discovered she has Avoidant attachment. I recommend you Google it if you don't know this psychological condition.
It's living hell to deal with someone who has this attachment. You can tell they are super interested in you, but when you try to move things forward, they blow you off. When you move on, they won't let you.
A few warning signs: 1) the moment you show romantic interest (even very subtle ones), they pull away, 2) lack of emotional understanding over basic communication, 3) lack of communication (after you show romantic interest), and 4) extreme hot and cold behaviors.
Thanks for your inputs guys. Hopefully you never deal with an Avoidant!
@Inbox Yeah that sheds light on the situation. I follow one simple rule to avoid such women: If she doesn't put in the effort and reciprocates interest, I'm not going to pursue her. Move on and let her get mad all she wants. Life is too short to be spending it with mentally unstable people. And the fact she is just a stranger you've met at school means it is absolutely NONE of her business with whom you continue to talk to.
And yeah, as Casa mentioned, looks like Btbc92 has been gone for almost half a year now. I doubt she willingly deactivated her account considering she has spent more than 10 years here. I think she finally got banned. But yeah, good riddance indeed. Seems like she hit 30 now and still can't find a man, despite claiming to have men rain all around her.
@TruthBringer Yeah. I've never even heard of Avoidant attachment until a few months ago. It's terrifying though: she showed all the behaviors of a girlfriend and someone who clearly (if not painfully) longs for you, but shows signs of a classic attention whore or tease at the same time. I've got many stories, but what's important now is that it's finished (at least on my end - I hope).
They are just playing games and want men to chase them. If they cared about you, then they wouldn't ignore you. If I care about a girl I wouldn't ignore her messages, calls or anything. You're right , move on to someone that cares about you, the ones you are mentioning are just crazy.
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Stupidity no more no less.
there was some idiot bitch on here who was pissed that her dad started dating about a year after her mom died, she claimed that he never loved her mom.. Its simple stupidity.
u How interested are you if you communicate with her by text instead of calling and talking to her?
In your generation, I understand the norm was to call and in fact I used to do it back in high school. Although, calling could be coming on too strong nowadays, so until I go out with her after the first date and/or depending her level of interest, I usually just text until her interest is high.
I thought you were talking about girls you had already met.
Sort of, the ones that get mad are ones usually I haven't even gone out even on a first date with yet. In my mind, I think it's because they wanted a guy to chase, otherwise they wouldn't be getting so mad, so they obviously were interested.
With the girl I was seeing, we went out on our first date about a month ago. I texted her after our first date, and she texted me back. Then, I texted her 3 times over the past month, but she never responded. Then we had class together this semester, and she started to flirt with me from a distance (playing with her hair, smiling, etc) but I didn't react because I thought she wasn't interested initially, I had emotionally detached to certain degree, and I was tired of her flakiness. She then got really mad when she saw me talking to another girl.
Personally, I feel there is some responsibility on each party to be more solid after the first date because you don't want the other party misinterpreting your moves. Unless of course that party is not interested.
screw em. if they ignore texts, they get what they deserve
Did u have sex with her?
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