Her looks drop, most good men (and women) are married by then, and she's down to her last few eggs. I mean, think about it. 100-200 years ago, most people basically died by age 40. I prefer women 23 to 30, but would date a SENSIBLE women that was 31 to 35. But there's just something about me that cringes at a woman that's 35 and older. Basically, the best way I can describe it is, a woman's 35 is like a man's 55. A woman who's 40 is like a male 60. I just think, "Okay, so your kids are now in the 8th grade or so, right? Maybe just started high school?"
Not to mention, men in their 20s are usually still immature and don't, as women put it, "have their sh*t together" yet. I didn't even have a half-decent paying job myself until three years ago and I'm 34 and have a Masters. I'm not even going to get into the whole thottery women often do, to where by the time they mature and stop being hoes around age 29 to 30, they've "hit the wall."
To me, a woman 35 and older just feels old as f*ck. Especially white women. Salma Hayek is a vampire woman. But most women don't have her genetics. Not to mention, many, MANY women nowadays are just bitter cunt. Not saying you have to be happy in this Clown World we're living in. But I'm talking about Feminists and Karens. And by 30, they look like absolute sh*t. Frowning all the time and constantly being angry with a telephone pole up your ass will age you like that. Brie Larson is three years younger than me and she looks like she's in her 40s. She, as a white woman, looks like a black or Hispanic woman's mid 40s, like 43 or 44. While Salma Hayek looks like she's 40. Brie probably has more money than Hayek, too.
So yeah. Women's beauty peaks at 23, and mentally, they're at their best by age 29. Men tend to peak at 35 to 40, at least, and are mentally at their best at that age. Thus, older women are less attractive, and younger men are less attractive.
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I dont get guys here. Many of them hate modern women and say women in past are better but also dont want to date older women. Biologically men in their 20s are in their prime. I am done how old men act like they are the prize. Young women like young men, not old men. Hollywood does not represent the reality. You are biologically trash if you are old as a man. An old man can't hunt, can't have healthy kids due to bad sperm quality and so you have no worth for the population according to evolution. But an old woman still can cook, look after grandchildren etc.
Yes we live in a civilized society but i just mention this for the people who mention biolgy etc. b
Here a copy and paste of my old posts about this topic:
The sperm quality is decreasing the older the men get which means their kids are more likely to have genetic abnormalities.
"Evolutionary Psychology studies suggest that women prefer slightly older or similarly aged partners... Several recent studies have shown changes in male reproductive parameters as a result of increased age. In the current review of medical literature, we found evidence that much older men are more likely to be infertile, women with much older partners are more likely to experience problems during pregnancy, and children of much older men are more likely to have genetic abnormalities. Based on these findings, we suggest that reproducing with much older men does not represent the best reproductive option for women, which would explain the female preference for only slightly older or similarly-aged mates. sexual selection;mate choice reproductive behavior; ..."-
I also think old men who date much younger women probably date these women for shallow reasons since the maturity level ain't the same due to brain development that affect the personality and maturity level of the young girls. So it is not a healthy relationship and there may be a power imbalance since young girls also dont have much adult life experience which make them naive/inexperience and because of brain development which make them make irrational decisions.
This is why divorce rate is higher the bigger the age gap is.Then men may be attracted to women in their early 20s, but women in their early 20s are not attracted to majority of men since young men aka men their age are minority since women prefere someone their age. Therefore majority women marry men at their age.
So dear incels keep being delusional. Young girls would not even want you if you are over 30s. You may not want women over 30s but why do you think women in their 20s would want you? 🙃
We live in a society where women are judged purely based on attractiveness. The primary position with some men is that women somehow stop being attractive at age 30, which I strongly disagree with. Thus, such women are then degraded for being "unattractive." Many men are often attracted to women younger than 30 because they typically have a more youthful appearance and naive personality, which makes them easier to take advantage of. Such behavior could be harboring pedophilia too. Men that are only attracted to women below 30 could potentially be attracted to underage girls as well, as no real limits could exist to how much "younger" such men prefer. If any man I meet says that he doesn't find women attractive when they're 30+, I definitely wouldn't trust him around children. These are men that are more likely to find your teenage daughter attractive more than you.
However, many women 30+ can still be attractive, even more so than women that are younger. Simply because a woman is young doesn't automatically mean that she's attractive, as young women can still have characteristics that men find unattractive. For example, young women could be overweight, disheveled because of drug use, or possess features that many would consider unattractive. Unless a woman isn't taking care of herself, no reason exists for her looks to fade at age 30. Plenty of women that are 30 and over are attractive. I'm 30 and, when I'm out, guys in their late teens and early 20s often hit on me because they mistake me for being around their age. They're usually shocked when I tell them I'm 30. In fact, many women exist that men pay attention to, such as those in the mall or any public place often frequented by women, that could appear younger, but are actually over 30, and they wouldn't know unless they actually approached her.
If a man doesn't have kids and wants to find a mate to have kids with/create a family, anything over 30 is too old. The reason why is after 35 her chances of getting pregnant drop to 15% to 20% and the chances of it being healthy without learning disabilities decrease substantially too. Regardless of people's opinions or wishful thinking, biology still matters.
Think of it this way, if two people meet and start dating, then one year later they start living together if everything was working out well, and a year after that they decide to start a family. If they are extremely lucky and she gets pregnant within a couple months, they will have been together for 3 years at least by the time they could have their first kid. After having it, she should take a year off trying in order for her body to fully recover. If they want another kid, and somehow defy the odds by a lot and she is again pregnant within a few months, By the time she has the second kid they have been together for 5 years. If they want a third kid there would be another year off, and another year of trying and pregnancy.
So if someone wants 3 kids, it would take a minimum of 7 years after meeting someone to have them and that is assuming lots of luck with getting pregnant so quick each time they try. If she was 30 when they met, she would be 37 when having the third kid. It is unlikely for her to even get pregnant by then, and if she does it is about a 37% chance of it having a learning disability. And that is assuming she led a healthy life and didn't do drugs in her past or drink heavy.
That is the main reason why if a man wants kids he doesn't want someone past 30.
As far as women choosing a man to create a family with, she should avoid men past 55 for the same reasons. And if he has a past of drug use or heavy drinking it can increase the chances of it having a learning disability too just like it does with women.
The main difference in biology affecting women more is because they already have their eggs. So if they did drugs in their teens and stopped in their early 20s, then choose to have a kid in her late 20s, the chance is still there for the problems. People's past choices matter and have permanent consequences.
Women past 30 are still physically attractive, but biologically they aren't a good choice for a man that wants kids. A single father shouldn't have a problem dating them though since that wouldn't be a concern of his.
I hope that explains it.
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I don't think anyone degrades them and 30 is not unattractive. Just that it is a known fact that men prefer younger women. A 30 years old would be seen as perfect by men who are older, especially if she dresses classy and is healthy.
Like with a lot of things in life, being consistent in your good habits is important. For example, accumulated exercise and healthy eating can affect how one can look and feel at an older age. It can happen that one can have a more toned body and even feel more energetic as a result of accumulated exercise during the years.
She can also be more efficient in managing herself, know herself better with age and have more money to pay for beauty treatments and attractive clothes.
I'm at the moment 28 and I honestly feel better every year. I can even achieve higher standards in my exercise compared to my younger self (till now).
But despite this it is true that women have a disadvantage in terms of aging compared to men. But on the other hand young women are valued for their beauty, then they slowly lose it, but men were never valued for their beauty.When people have a birthday with a zero at the end, people often start to reflect on their life. What have they accomplished, are they married, do they have a family. Increasingly women are delaying marriage and having a family. At the same time, the number of eligible men seem to have decreased because men tend marry younger women. A woman's late teens and twenties should be focused on finding a lifetime partner, while the selection is abundant. However, most women blow this golden opportunity by dating a bunch of jerks.
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At age 35, the chances of certain birth defects doubles with every additional year of age. At age 35, the demographics change and the supply of unmarried men equalizes for the first time in a woman's life. Although the change has been gradual, suddenly the women notice the shortage. Prior to this, the women enjoyed a 10-18% surplus of unmarried men to unmarried women ratio in same age range.No one degrades over 30, or any age. The concept of degradation with time is applicable only to "sexual mean value" (SMV) than yes as a woman gets older anatomically, she shows signs of aging and physiologically the quality of the eggs deteriorate. Women do have a biological clock. Medically the age of 35 is considered as "high risk pregnancy" but really fertility (the chance of getting pregnant within one year) starts to decrease considerably post 30.
So from a biological and sexual economics point of view a woman is most attractive and at her prime at ages 21-25. And this was known almost universally among different cultures.
The age of 30 is nothing magical, there are no absolutes when it comes to biology, it's a science of probability distributions of populations. Depending on your genetics, nutrition, sorroundings, you can maintain status quo for longer, or lose it sooner, but 30 seems to be a an asthetically pleasing number. In India the age of 27 would illicit the same response, and in China around 28, and in Pakistan 26. I can't comment about the Arab nations.Just ignore toxic men. Those are the ones most women wouldn't want to marry and have their kids anyway. You are only being degraded because they felt rejected when they were younger and feel younger women are way better when they fail to see women are women, just like men are men. It's just their way of trying to get a come-up. Those types of men who claim that are NOT looking for wives or children. They just want sex with a much younger woman as they age and try to use money, status, etc to keep a woman interested. You have to avoid men with that toxic mindset. They are unhealthy and unhappy. And they use the excuse as if all of us had slept around. I'm a virgin. Most of these men are not. So the men who speak that are best to be avoided and best to teach your girls especially to not fall for it. They try to groom you young.
Only men on GAG degrade women in their 30s. Walk out into the real world, and you won't see this misogyny crap. If you take a look around at all these men on GAG degrading women over 30, its the same men who are extremely bitter about being single and complaining about women having high standards. These guys can't even manage to get a 50 yr old woman to look in their direction. Shitting on women is just a way for them to feel better about themselves getting rejected
It's not that she's unattractive, most guys prefer Young women with parts of them that's still fresh off the refrigerator if you know what I mean. Apparently nobody older women anyone in between 30 and up, because they think parts of a woman that's older is the old things that come out of the refrigerator if you know what I mean and they don't want that. I don't really care what people say she's a beautiful and I find her attractive I don't really have a particular taste in women I just roll the dice see where my percentage score is and I go for it if it's a reasonable amount. Like if I roll of 5 and 4 on the dice, there's a 20% chance that she is willing to get to know me.
It's not that she's unattractive, it's just that she now has to compete with much younger women in the dating pool. Youth and beauty is a woman's greatest asset.
By forty they are starting to sag and wrinkle, and the prime guys are all snapped up and married off, leaving just the rejects, nerds, dweebs, and divorcees with kids in tow.
So if you're thirty, get busy and find a suitable prospect - several of them even, and find one worth keeping. Otherwise you're looking at the rest of your years as a crazy cat-lady.Hi Anonymous! This is simple biology. Guys are rating prospective mates (on a subconscious level) on their ability to produce healthy offspring. This starts to decline slightly by the age of 30 (although much less so than at 40) so on an instinctive level men are preferring girls who have a good 10-15 years of childbearing ahead of them. And this is true even of men who think they don't want any children. It's hardwired into our psyche.
Now personally I would think women over 30 can still be very attractive, and might be preferred by men of a similar age.Because we live in a "man-girl" society. If you listen to music the women usually sing about having a man and men sing about having a girl. It stems from misogyny and being in a patriarchal society. And if I was to pin it back even further than that, I would say it has to do with women being more fertile in younger years and men having the desire to spread seeds. But that's more of a primordial take. In realist, most men in real life don't care. They are just regular guys. If they find you attractive, then they will approach you.
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Women over 30 don't look as good/young/cute etc as they did in their 20s and probably have had more partners.
Men are very visual so we tend to notice it. And all of it is fucked up in many ways and very logical in others, although that doesn't change who we are.
Obviously actually degrading someone for their age is not cool at all.
Feeling more attraction towards a younger/fresher etc woman (not a kid) is normal and looking down on it is an act of degrading men.To me you're just in your Prime you are the hot lovers that everybody's looking for as far as I'm concerned if you want to be degraded verbally I will do it but only during sex. Can you guys that degrade in 30 year old woman they are fools because women that are 30 and older are in their Prime and they know how to fuck and they love marathons
I don't degrade a young woman in her 30s, she hasn't even started her life yet. Sure, her youthful looks may have passed but that won't really be an issue if she maintains a good diet, exercises, cuts out the bad stuff and drinks tea and water regularly. Problem is, so many girls these days can't cope with problems so they are damaging their body by snorting cocaine, smoking weed, drinking tons of alcohol. I know someone will read this and think cocaine, weed and booze are all healthy benefits for the human body and apparently I'm a stupid goof? But this is GAG and I won't bow to stupidity just because it's been normalized by society.
Women in their 30’s and 40’s are like men in their 20’s, lacking their primary value.
Women’s prime is 18-26. They are the most attractive and the most fertile. Which gives them a high sexual marketplace value. This devalues over time (30-40+)
Men in their 20’s are overwhelmingly lacking confidence, status and money. Which gives them their sexual marketplace value. That comes later in their 30’s and 40’s.
If a woman blows most of her value in her 20’s - her prime, then why should a man when he’s in his prime give her the time of day.It's just sort of an average age where women start to be less physically attractive and their sexual experience is too much, and then also often are bitter about not getting the same attention which makes them less attractive and even less likely to get that dream marriage. At that age the contrast really starts to show with the girl ~10 years younger to has had little to no sexual experience and who is more physically attractive with years of attractiveness ahead of her, not to mention child-bearing years.
it really pisses me off how some guys have no fucking clue how the female reproductive system works. no, 90% of our eggs aren't gone by our 30's... some women can even naturally (yes, naturally) have children at age 40 for fucks sake. stay in your lane. a woman's age does not equal her worth.
This is all about the long and storied history of SEXISM. Sixteen year old women are glorified because they're fresh and cute. But women with experience and a few lines on their faces aren't. Whereas MEN who are older are lionized! Men with the same lines, the same experience are considered attractive.
These things are changing slowly. Very slowly. All you can do is value yourself despite these annoying and unfair leanings in society.Most men are lustfully restricted to firm breast, shape and juvenile beauty and since sex is all they imagine a woman can provide, they assume that she gives her wildest at 18-30.
Most of these men are not enlightened or have no illumination.
A man should want his woman to look good but they have to understand that they both would grow old and their beauty fade as they approach the day, they'd meet their maker.Dont listen to that nonsense... everyone gets older.. your only degraded if you allow yourself to be anyone that starts that non sense with me I say shut the fuck up.. then if they keep going I say I dont care shut the fuck up snd show them the door or excuse yourself... just keep repeating it like a child until they realize you have better things to do then listen to their bullshit.
a lot of opinions are bullshitBecause it’s a load of bollox, women over 30 look lovely, even over 40.
It’s just fuckwits saying stuff like that, low intelligence and zero life skills or experience.Everyone's gonna turn 30 some day or the other.
Anyone can be attractive/unattractive. It all comes down to how you take care of your body. If you take care of your body well, then you'd be attractive even if you're 40. But I think most men prefer women in mid 20s because of fertility. It is said that a woman's fertility reduces after she turns 30. I'm not sure. But hey, those people who say you're unattractive are maybe just jealous of you.
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