Woman might be attracted to money and muscles but that does not mean they fall in love and have babies with money and muscles - Just like a lot of men will sleep with a stripper but very few will have kids with her.
1. You think that guys act like jerks at the beginning of a relationship? 2. Could be that they just happened to also have a great personality. Shocking I know. 3. again could just be a coincidence.
1. complete horseshit; I seen women getting instantly turned on whenever they see a random loose his temper or show aggression in plain site. 2. also complete horseshit, if this was the case then jocks in college and high school would not be the bimbo magnet that they are 3. is the sky being blue during the day also a coincidence?
@CasaNorba 1. I am sure there are toxic women who will love that. Most won't. 2. Just like you said, they are bimbo magnets. Do you consider bimbos the be if value? Let them go for the jocks and the rest to keep the good ones. 3. Balance is what is needed. A nice guy with a backbone, decent grooming and social skills will never be single for long.
It's a figure of speech. According to this you're 34 so why are you concerned with what type of men high school and college women are going for? Are you mad that they're not going for you? Because I'll tell you what it's not because you're not a jock.
and how does me using them as an example equates to me caring/envying them in any way? I guess I should of also add drunk bikers who start fights at bars, thugs who do the same at night clubs or other venues, gang members, and the list goes on. these are the type of men women drool and flock to
@CasaNorba why do you have experience with high school and college aged women at age 34? Try dating people your own age and you might have better luck.
I was not 34 years old all of my life buddy, I'm talking about the experiences that I myself had when I was in high school and college. seriously, what type of mind do you have? first off I dont date and wtf makes you think I be dating young ass bimbos still in high school? I feel disgusted just by reading your statement
till then no, you won't be having any better luck if you are a guy, cause women from my generation do not outgrow their high school mentality. lets not forget that by this time their hypocrisy reaches higher heights
@CasaNorba maybe you haven't outgrown the mentality. Maybe you need to readdress the type of people you go for. All these issues could potentially lie with your choices rather than everyone else somehow being against you.
@CasaNorba. You are projecting our attitudes onto others. Stop hiding in your room and whining about women on social media. There's a real world outside full of nice girls who want to meet guys who don't have chips on their shoulders against women. You sound like the male version of a radical feminist.
@Lliam are you on drugs? I dont hide in my bedroom whining about "how much I wish women were nicer and easier like an Incel. however when my blue balls can no longer take it I go visit sex workers to drain my blue balls. because not only do they drain my balls better but they also never expect me to have "good face, good personality, take her out on a date, etc but once I pay them for their services they will leave and never come back unless I was her services again in the future
@CasaNorba and there it is! The main issue! "never expect me to have "good face, good personality, take her out on a date, etc " To actually be a decent human being that can get the love of another. That is what you can't do. That is what frustrates you. That is why you chose to believe what you believe. It's easier to put the blame on others instead of yourself.
@Razp_Sorbet When it comes to your points. You have to realize that the orignal poster is talking about stereotypes, which sadly ARE often happening. Something that is "conicidental" does not become a stereotype. Something becomes a stereotype if said something is repeats itself often in a certain group.
1. It is actually a very common phenonemon that women often do go for the "bad boy". Where do you think the "nice guys finish last" phrase comes from? Or "being nice gets you friendzoned"? It's because women do go for the "jerks". Not because they oh so like an actual jerk, but because these "jerks" hold certain (masculine) qualities that women find attractive. Women say they want a nice and loving guy out of political correctness and often because they know rationally that is the best guy they can be. But that bad boy gives them the tingles and excitement.
2. Plenty of evidence out there that shows women prioritize looks/height over other qualities. And this is generally speaking. Plenty of short guys with great personalities getting rejected from left to right. Far more frequently than those who happen to be taller and good looking. This is common sense and you don't need a third eye to witness this.
3. Social status as well as knowing a guy is financially well off actually scores him big points in the dating world. So no, not a coincidence. Blue collar jobs are often frowned upon. Again, this is generally speaking and not something absolute.
@TruthBringer certain girls go for bad guys, if you're finding women you're into are repeatedly going for dirtbags then reevaluate what type of person you are interested in. I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s. Majority of us in our mid 20s just want a chill cuddly dude.
Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening. I distinctly remember that like 5 of my high school friends first boyfriends were shorter than them. And they were crushing on them while the tall lanky dudes were trying their hardest to get noticed.
I think everyone dreams of having someone taking care of them financially. But again a dream that is often put to rest by your mid 20s. I think also kinda American, I've only ever had comments about my partners job when I've talked to Americans, saying I must be with him because he's a lawyer so $$$ unaware of the fact that we've been together since we were 18 and I was the one supporting him financially until he got into his feet.
Maybe I'm blind to it all because it's never been something I've experienced.
". I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s. Majority of us in our mid 20s just want a chill cuddly dude."
Jesus @Razp_Sorbet I guess your horseshit speeches have no limits. women in their 20s (especially in their early 20s) act the most stuckup in their lives. this is the time frame when all they want to do is drink, smoke, party and ride the cock carousel.
"Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening."
oh you're not from america, no wonder why you sound so naive in this department, though I gotta say that New Zealand can't be that different.
@CasaNorba good thing I wasn't talking about early 20s then aye. Culture is very different here. Traveling to NZ from US and vice versa usually comes with a dramatic culture shock and climatic shock.
still New Zealand is a west world nation so I dont see how it will be so different. I also heard that New Zealand is to Australia was Canada is to the US so again I highly doubt is that different since I have online buddies from Australia that describe their women no different than how we American men describe out women
“. I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s.” - Sorry but I have to I disagree fully. This is FAR from the truth. They actually usually grow out of the “bad boy phase” when their biological clock starts ticking in their 30s and they still haven’t secured a meaningful relationship. Or they need a ‘nice guy’ to support them and their kids. If women truly did grow out of the bad boy phase in their early 20s, as you claim, then we don’t have an influx of women complaining about cheaters and all kind of toxic exes.
"if you're finding women you're into are repeatedly going for dirtbags then reevaluate what type of person you are interested in." - This literally applies to women who complain about men as well. I can speak from experience that trashy people are found everyone. It’s not like people aren’t searching in multiple corners that they experience toxic people. My exes are vastly different from each other in every way, yet both were toxic in their own way. That was until I met a wonderful girl who isn’t toxic. It is basically trial and error. If you manage to find a good person, then consider yourself lucky. Many people aren’t lucky and they are either tired of searching, tired of getting hurt or they don’t want to bother at all.
“Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening. “ - This happens all over the world, especially in the west and countries hit by feminism like metropolises in India for example. I’m from the Netherlands and everything I’ve spoken about is also very much found here. So no, it’s not just an American thing.
“ I distinctly remember that like 5 of my high school friends first boyfriends were shorter than them. And they were crushing on them while the tall lanky dudes were trying their hardest to get noticed. “ - Exceptions to the rule never make the rule. Like I said, it is in a general sense. There is plenty of evidence out there showing that women would not want to date men shorter than them. When it comes to money, the same thing applies. Evidence out there shows that women do care about a man’s financial stability. One of the biggest reasons why women file divorce is due to financial reasons last time I checked. If this was just an American thing as you claim it is, then you don’t have women from Asian countries make western men fall in love with them so they can get a free citizenship to the 1st world country. Women are also now complaining that they are “dating down” because they are earning more than men (more women attend college than men). When we say women want a financially stable man, we aren’t saying a millionaire per se.
"Maybe I'm blind to it all because it's never been something I've experienced.” - With all due respect, but judging from the arguments, I think you’re projecting your own interest and actions to societies out there which yes makes you indeed blind. If you’re okay with ABC, that doesn’t mean the rest of women within western society do as well. ESPECIALLY if there is enough evidence to prove they are not okay with ABC but rather go for DEF.
@TruthBringer "Overall, the results indicate that the most often cited reasons for divorce at the individual level were lack of commitment (75.0%), infidelity (59.6%), and too much conflict and arguing (57.7%), followed by marrying too young (45.1%), financial problems (36.7%), substance abuse (34.6%), and domestic violence (23.5%). Other problems, such as religious differences, were endorsed less than 20% of the time. " www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/
48.9% of women want to date a taller man so it's not the majority basically 50/50.
Studies have also shown that women may go for flashy rich men for a couple dates but are much more likely to settle with an average person because rich guys typically just want sex.
"financial problems (36.7%)," - 36.7% is actually a big number when it comes to divorces. Thanks for proving my point.
A quick Google Search landed me at a percentage of 55% women prefer dating taller men. So not sure where you get your numbers from. "Furthermore, none of the men only wanted to date women taller than them nor did any of the women only wanted to date men shorter than them. However, 37% of the men only wanted to date women shorter than them and 55% of the women only wanted to date men taller than them." journals.sagepub.com/.../0192513X13519256
"Studies have also shown that women may go for flashy rich men for a couple dates but are much more likely to settle with an average person" - So it DOES matter, afterall eh? This goes to show that women sleep with higher status men with more money. So the average nice guy can have the left-overs basically hahha. It is a known fact that a man who got his shit together (without even needing to be a CEO or a multimilionaire) will attract women based on his success and ability to provide. This is a fact known since the very beginning of mankind.
@TruthBringer if you're only interested in sleeping with women then yeah it suck for you but if you actually want to settle down and have a loving relationship it doesn't. It sucks for rich men who are really the ones getting used. Your gotcha moment is lacking.
@Razp_Sorbet Love how you completely neglected every point I made. It actually also applies to those wanting a loving relationship. Sorry that your attempt to twist the narrative failed.
@Razp_Sorbet And you didn't debunk any of them. By all means, continue damage controlling. It's obvious that you don't have anything valid to say. So now you're replying for the sake of saying something instead of having something to say. Keep beating around the bush, love.
@TruthBringer okay you changed your point you said "One of the biggest reasons why women file divorce is due to financial reasons last time I checked" evidently it's not one of the biggest reasons. 36% is merely 1/3 of all divorce reasons. In the grand scheme of things is minimal not a big reason. Also financial reasons ≠ my husband is broke it could be a whole load of reasons such as differing spending habits (a saver with a splurger), differing priorities (one wanting to save for a home the other not caring), secret bank accounts, gambling, undisclosed debt, secret purchases, unexpected major expenses like caring for an elderly parent, disabled child, home repair, medical expenses, spending too much on the wedding. Plus many more so if we break all those up I highly doubt husband ain't rich sits anywhere near the top.
48%-55% not that big of a difference like I said basically 50/50.
@Razp_Sorbet Then your interpretation to “biggest reasons” differs than mine. You see “biggest” as in top what? 50%? While I see that there are hundreds, if not thousands, if not hundred thousands of reasons why people out there file for a divorce. And it so happens that financial issues happen to be very much mentioned. So yes, in that regard, it is among the top reasons. So you can say it is one of the most common reasons, despite it being like what was it? 36%? Which actually is a very big percentage considering we’re talking about divorce numbers. As I said, women want a man who is financially stable at the very least and has some spending money to live a bit of a luxury life. In many cultures, women or even their families are seeking out men who are actually very well off financially to marry. In the west, this is usually associated with ‘gold digging’. And as I like to believe not every woman and neither most women being gold diggers here in the west, I do acknowledge that the average woman will get turned off by a man who doesn’t have his shit together. Unless he is a student and is working his way through a high degree. As I said, there is a reason why there are women now complaining that they are “dating down” because not many men are graduating and getting high degrees. So much that it made it to national tv. “48%-55% not that big of a difference like I said basically 50/50.” Oooh quite the vast change in tone compared to your initial point. 55% is still the majority.
@TonyV that is an epitome of a shaming tactic, @asker is not the only dude with this mentality nowadays. you dont need to be hurt by anyone to analyze this.
if anything the one who is truly hurt here is her if she had the need to jump to such conclusion.
@Lliam yeah you must be a simp that's why. a lot of simps do possess the same mentality as feminists thinking that thinking like one will get the pussy point they're missing in life
Because that is what they have been taught to say. It is not totally incorrect. What the want is a good looking hot guy that would treat them like an average looking nice guy would. Regardless, they will always choose the super good looking hot guy over a homely guy.
Young women especially are notorious for confusing "bad boys" for masculinity. It's more or less the equivalent flaw of men who chase women solely for looks.
Because you don't treat them well. You treat the treat them like objest that exists to give you affection. Those jecks tream like real people and you only call them jerks because they habe what you want affection. Maybe women are the problem maybe you are.
Nah women aren't hypocrites. Girls can be. Women stopped existing when they stopped learning to cook haha
And here is something you should know. Girls have hit list of guys they use before they settle for the opposite.
Based on that logic be the opposite to what they say they want, and that logic also tells you to settle for the opposite to whom you are attracted to so you're not the guy being used.
That plus both genders are hypocrital when it comes to calling the other gender shallow.
Men will complain that women only want tall rich men but many of them only want supermodel women.
Women will insist that they can pick who they want and that men need to get over it. Yet when a man picks a woman according to standards of their own those same women will call the man a slut shamer, misogynist, ableist, fatphobe, ageist, shallow, adhering to patriarchal standards or some other bullshit feminist term. Almost as if only certain people can have preferences or you can only have preferences if you're a woman.
Obviously not all men and women are like this. In fact most aren't like this at all but I do see hypocrital people of both genders when it comes to dating.
Why are modern men so stupid that they actually listen to what women say? Just ignore women they constantly do this with everything so just treat them like a child. It works out much better.
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Woman might be attracted to money and muscles but that does not mean they fall in love and have babies with money and muscles - Just like a lot of men will sleep with a stripper but very few will have kids with her.
If this was true there would be any single moms or teenage moms
1. You think that guys act like jerks at the beginning of a relationship?
2. Could be that they just happened to also have a great personality. Shocking I know.
3. again could just be a coincidence.
1. complete horseshit; I seen women getting instantly turned on whenever they see a random loose his temper or show aggression in plain site.
2. also complete horseshit, if this was the case then jocks in college and high school would not be the bimbo magnet that they are
3. is the sky being blue during the day also a coincidence?
@CasaNorba
1. I am sure there are toxic women who will love that. Most won't.
2. Just like you said, they are bimbo magnets. Do you consider bimbos the be if value? Let them go for the jocks and the rest to keep the good ones.
3. Balance is what is needed. A nice guy with a backbone, decent grooming and social skills will never be single for long.
Using high school as an example is very strange. Teenagers will get turned on by a gust if wind
"Teenagers will get turned on by a gust if wind"
not only does this sound so moronic and lack science but I really do not see how this dismisses everything else I've said.
It's a figure of speech. According to this you're 34 so why are you concerned with what type of men high school and college women are going for? Are you mad that they're not going for you? Because I'll tell you what it's not because you're not a jock.
no buddy, its called "Experience"
and how does me using them as an example equates to me caring/envying them in any way? I guess I should of also add drunk bikers who start fights at bars, thugs who do the same at night clubs or other venues, gang members, and the list goes on. these are the type of men women drool and flock to
@CasaNorba you are avoiding me. Taking the easy way out?
@CasaNorba why do you have experience with high school and college aged women at age 34? Try dating people your own age and you might have better luck.
I was not 34 years old all of my life buddy, I'm talking about the experiences that I myself had when I was in high school and college. seriously, what type of mind do you have? first off I dont date and wtf makes you think I be dating young ass bimbos still in high school? I feel disgusted just by reading your statement
till then no, you won't be having any better luck if you are a guy, cause women from my generation do not outgrow their high school mentality. lets not forget that by this time their hypocrisy reaches higher heights
@CasaNorba maybe you haven't outgrown the mentality. Maybe you need to readdress the type of people you go for. All these issues could potentially lie with your choices rather than everyone else somehow being against you.
again I dont "go for anyone" because I dont like hypocrisy.
@CasaNorba yes you are taking the easy way out.
@CasaNorba. You are projecting our attitudes onto others. Stop hiding in your room and whining about women on social media. There's a real world outside full of nice girls who want to meet guys who don't have chips on their shoulders against women. You sound like the male version of a radical feminist.
@Lliam he does, but he is never going to see it.
@Lliam are you on drugs? I dont hide in my bedroom whining about "how much I wish women were nicer and easier like an Incel. however when my blue balls can no longer take it I go visit sex workers to drain my blue balls. because not only do they drain my balls better but they also never expect me to have "good face, good personality, take her out on a date, etc but once I pay them for their services they will leave and never come back unless I was her services again in the future
Lmfao blue balls. Really. 😂😂
@CasaNorba and there it is! The main issue!
"never expect me to have "good face, good personality, take her out on a date, etc "
To actually be a decent human being that can get the love of another. That is what you can't do. That is what frustrates you. That is why you chose to believe what you believe. It's easier to put the blame on others instead of yourself.
@Razp_Sorbet When it comes to your points. You have to realize that the orignal poster is talking about stereotypes, which sadly ARE often happening. Something that is "conicidental" does not become a stereotype. Something becomes a stereotype if said something is repeats itself often in a certain group.
1. It is actually a very common phenonemon that women often do go for the "bad boy". Where do you think the "nice guys finish last" phrase comes from? Or "being nice gets you friendzoned"? It's because women do go for the "jerks". Not because they oh so like an actual jerk, but because these "jerks" hold certain (masculine) qualities that women find attractive. Women say they want a nice and loving guy out of political correctness and often because they know rationally that is the best guy they can be. But that bad boy gives them the tingles and excitement.
2. Plenty of evidence out there that shows women prioritize looks/height over other qualities. And this is generally speaking. Plenty of short guys with great personalities getting rejected from left to right. Far more frequently than those who happen to be taller and good looking. This is common sense and you don't need a third eye to witness this.
3. Social status as well as knowing a guy is financially well off actually scores him big points in the dating world. So no, not a coincidence. Blue collar jobs are often frowned upon. Again, this is generally speaking and not something absolute.
@TruthBringer certain girls go for bad guys, if you're finding women you're into are repeatedly going for dirtbags then reevaluate what type of person you are interested in. I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s. Majority of us in our mid 20s just want a chill cuddly dude.
Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening. I distinctly remember that like 5 of my high school friends first boyfriends were shorter than them. And they were crushing on them while the tall lanky dudes were trying their hardest to get noticed.
I think everyone dreams of having someone taking care of them financially. But again a dream that is often put to rest by your mid 20s. I think also kinda American, I've only ever had comments about my partners job when I've talked to Americans, saying I must be with him because he's a lawyer so $$$ unaware of the fact that we've been together since we were 18 and I was the one supporting him financially until he got into his feet.
Maybe I'm blind to it all because it's never been something I've experienced.
". I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s. Majority of us in our mid 20s just want a chill cuddly dude."
Jesus @Razp_Sorbet I guess your horseshit speeches have no limits. women in their 20s (especially in their early 20s) act the most stuckup in their lives. this is the time frame when all they want to do is drink, smoke, party and ride the cock carousel.
"Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening."
oh you're not from america, no wonder why you sound so naive in this department, though I gotta say that New Zealand can't be that different.
@CasaNorba good thing I wasn't talking about early 20s then aye.
Culture is very different here. Traveling to NZ from US and vice versa usually comes with a dramatic culture shock and climatic shock.
still New Zealand is a west world nation so I dont see how it will be so different. I also heard that New Zealand is to Australia was Canada is to the US so again I highly doubt is that different since I have online buddies from Australia that describe their women no different than how we American men describe out women
@CasaNorba I mean yeah you typically surround yourself with people who have the same views.
@Razp_Sorbet
“. I will say too typically women grow out of the "bad boy" thing by early 20s.”
- Sorry but I have to I disagree fully. This is FAR from the truth. They actually usually grow out of the “bad boy phase” when their biological clock starts ticking in their 30s and they still haven’t secured a meaningful relationship. Or they need a ‘nice guy’ to support them and their kids. If women truly did grow out of the bad boy phase in their early 20s, as you claim, then we don’t have an influx of women complaining about cheaters and all kind of toxic exes.
"if you're finding women you're into are repeatedly going for dirtbags then reevaluate what type of person you are interested in."
- This literally applies to women who complain about men as well. I can speak from experience that trashy people are found everyone. It’s not like people aren’t searching in multiple corners that they experience toxic people. My exes are vastly different from each other in every way, yet both were toxic in their own way. That was until I met a wonderful girl who isn’t toxic. It is basically trial and error. If you manage to find a good person, then consider yourself lucky. Many people aren’t
lucky and they are either tired of searching, tired of getting hurt or they don’t want to bother at all.
“Maybe this is American culture because I've really not experienced it here or seen it happening. “
- This happens all over the world, especially in the west and countries hit by feminism like metropolises in India for example. I’m from the Netherlands and everything I’ve spoken about is also very much found here. So no, it’s not just an American thing.
@Razp_Sorbet
“ I distinctly remember that like 5 of my high school friends first boyfriends were shorter than them. And they were crushing on them while the tall lanky dudes were trying their hardest to get noticed. “
- Exceptions to the rule never make the rule. Like I said, it is in a general sense. There is plenty of evidence out there showing that women would not want to date men shorter than them.
When it comes to money, the same thing applies. Evidence out there shows that women do care about a man’s financial stability. One of the biggest reasons why women file divorce is due to financial reasons last time I checked. If this was just an American thing as you claim it is, then you don’t have women from Asian countries make western men fall in love with them so they can get a free citizenship to the 1st world country. Women are also now complaining that they are “dating down” because they are earning more than men (more women attend college than men). When we say women want a financially stable man, we aren’t saying a millionaire per se.
"Maybe I'm blind to it all because it's never been something I've experienced.”
- With all due respect, but judging from the arguments, I think you’re projecting your own interest and actions to societies out there which yes makes you indeed blind. If you’re okay with ABC, that doesn’t mean the rest of women within western society do as well. ESPECIALLY if there is enough evidence to prove they are not okay with ABC but rather go for DEF.
@TruthBringer "Overall, the results indicate that the most often cited reasons for divorce at the individual level were lack of commitment (75.0%), infidelity (59.6%), and too much conflict and arguing (57.7%), followed by marrying too young (45.1%), financial problems (36.7%), substance abuse (34.6%), and domestic violence (23.5%). Other problems, such as religious differences, were endorsed less than 20% of the time. " www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/
48.9% of women want to date a taller man so it's not the majority basically 50/50.
Studies have also shown that women may go for flashy rich men for a couple dates but are much more likely to settle with an average person because rich guys typically just want sex.
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"financial problems (36.7%),"
- 36.7% is actually a big number when it comes to divorces. Thanks for proving my point.
A quick Google Search landed me at a percentage of 55% women prefer dating taller men. So not sure where you get your numbers from.
"Furthermore, none of the men only wanted to date women taller than them nor did any of the women only wanted to date men shorter than them. However, 37% of the men only wanted to date women shorter than them and 55% of the women only wanted to date men taller than them."
journals.sagepub.com/.../0192513X13519256
research.rug.nl/.../women-want-taller-men-more-than-men-want-shorter-women
"Studies have also shown that women may go for flashy rich men for a couple dates but are much more likely to settle with an average person"
- So it DOES matter, afterall eh? This goes to show that women sleep with higher status men with more money. So the average nice guy can have the left-overs basically hahha. It is a known fact that a man who got his shit together (without even needing to be a CEO or a multimilionaire) will attract women based on his success and ability to provide. This is a fact known since the very beginning of mankind.
@CasaNorba funny how only you and your buddies seem to see these kind of women. What you all have is called confirmation bias.
www.britannica.com/science/confirmation-bias
@TruthBringer if you're only interested in sleeping with women then yeah it suck for you but if you actually want to settle down and have a loving relationship it doesn't. It sucks for rich men who are really the ones getting used. Your gotcha moment is lacking.
@Razp_Sorbet Love how you completely neglected every point I made. It actually also applies to those wanting a loving relationship. Sorry that your attempt to twist the narrative failed.
@TruthBringer love how you think you made good points ☺️
@Razp_Sorbet And you didn't debunk any of them. By all means, continue damage controlling. It's obvious that you don't have anything valid to say. So now you're replying for the sake of saying something instead of having something to say. Keep beating around the bush, love.
@TruthBringer okay you changed your point you said "One of the biggest reasons why women file divorce is due to financial reasons last time I checked" evidently it's not one of the biggest reasons. 36% is merely 1/3 of all divorce reasons. In the grand scheme of things is minimal not a big reason. Also financial reasons ≠ my husband is broke it could be a whole load of reasons such as differing spending habits (a saver with a splurger), differing priorities (one wanting to save for a home the other not caring), secret bank accounts, gambling, undisclosed debt, secret purchases, unexpected major expenses like caring for an elderly parent, disabled child, home repair, medical expenses, spending too much on the wedding. Plus many more so if we break all those up I highly doubt husband ain't rich sits anywhere near the top.
48%-55% not that big of a difference like I said basically 50/50.
Happy now?
@Razp_Sorbet Then your interpretation to “biggest reasons” differs than mine. You see “biggest” as in top what? 50%? While I see that there are hundreds, if not thousands, if not hundred thousands of reasons why people out there file for a divorce. And it so happens that financial issues happen to be very much mentioned. So yes, in that regard, it is among the top reasons. So you can say it is one of the most common reasons, despite it being like what was it? 36%? Which actually is a very big percentage considering we’re talking about divorce numbers.
As I said, women want a man who is financially stable at the very least and has some spending money to live a bit of a luxury life. In many cultures, women or even their families are seeking out men who are actually very well off financially to marry. In the west, this is usually associated with ‘gold digging’. And as I like to believe not every woman and neither most women being gold diggers here in the west, I do acknowledge that the average woman will get turned off by a man who doesn’t have his shit together. Unless he is a student and is working his way through a high degree. As I said, there is a reason why there are women now complaining that they are “dating down” because not many men are graduating and getting high degrees. So much that it made it to national tv.
“48%-55% not that big of a difference like I said basically 50/50.”
Oooh quite the vast change in tone compared to your initial point. 55% is still the majority.
@TruthBringer I said 50/50 in my original point. But okay. Agree to disagree. At least I know I'm not like these women you speak of
So what was her name that rejected you, we're all keen to hear
lmao a 42 year old using shaming tactics
Not really a shaming tactic, sure she'll never get what ots like for us but she is right that clearly someone hurt you.
@TonyV that is an epitome of a shaming tactic, @asker is not the only dude with this mentality nowadays. you dont need to be hurt by anyone to analyze this.
if anything the one who is truly hurt here is her if she had the need to jump to such conclusion.
@CasaNorba. Funny. Because I had the same thought as Bee-Hatch. 🤣
@Lliam yeah you must be a simp that's why. a lot of simps do possess the same mentality as feminists thinking that thinking like one will get the pussy point they're missing in life
Because that is what they have been taught to say. It is not totally incorrect. What the want is a good looking hot guy that would treat them like an average looking nice guy would. Regardless, they will always choose the super good looking hot guy over a homely guy.
Young women especially are notorious for confusing "bad boys" for masculinity. It's more or less the equivalent flaw of men who chase women solely for looks.
Because you don't treat them well. You treat the treat them like objest that exists to give you affection. Those jecks tream like real people and you only call them jerks because they habe what you want affection. Maybe women are the problem maybe you are.
Mostly because men are so judgmental - that or we learned it from males in our lives :)
Nah women aren't hypocrites. Girls can be. Women stopped existing when they stopped learning to cook haha
And here is something you should know. Girls have hit list of guys they use before they settle for the opposite.
Based on that logic be the opposite to what they say they want, and that logic also tells you to settle for the opposite to whom you are attracted to so you're not the guy being used.
I believe anyone can be hypocrites and it depends on who you are and who you surround yourswlf with and choose to act towards others.
Wrong, they just don’t pick you. Stop blaming them, look at yourself, change your attitude or approach, and you will get better results.
I believe the best thing to do is blame both yourself and them and stay single
Great advice.
People of both genders are hypocrites. Not only women.
You are kind of an idiot, aren’t you?
Its psychological instinctual survival fueled by emotional attraction. DM for more info.
its a defense mechanism. if they admit what they really like then they're gonna face repercussions; every woman's worst nightmare
Obviously tall, athletic, and rich men have an advantage I won't deny it but, I've seen plenty of average men who are in successful relationships.
That plus both genders are hypocrital when it comes to calling the other gender shallow.
Men will complain that women only want tall rich men but many of them only want supermodel women.
Women will insist that they can pick who they want and that men need to get over it. Yet when a man picks a woman according to standards of their own those same women will call the man a slut shamer, misogynist, ableist, fatphobe, ageist, shallow, adhering to patriarchal standards or some other bullshit feminist term. Almost as if only certain people can have preferences or you can only have preferences if you're a woman.
Obviously not all men and women are like this. In fact most aren't like this at all but I do see hypocrital people of both genders when it comes to dating.
Why are modern men so stupid that they actually listen to what women say? Just ignore women they constantly do this with everything so just treat them like a child. It works out much better.
A female friend of mine put it best. "Girls like bad boys... woman like men". I think you are talking about girls not women here.
We’re all hypocrites in a lot of ways. You call chicks all these names but probably are wrapped around several of their fingers.
Honestly man. Just work on finding women you like.
Whining about your problems isn’t something men do
I agree the world ain’t perfect and things aren’t the way they should be, but at the end of the day work on yourself and find ways to get better.
Lol, who hurt you man?