I'd say the problem isn't nearly as pronounced with women.
Like speaking for myself, a lot of sexual attraction vs emotional attraction aren't that intertwined. Her behavior isn't in conflict with how sexy she is and vice versa. A physically hot girl is hot whether she's good or evil. I just can't respect her or be emotionally attracted to her if she's evil. But to put it simply there's really no version of it where her goodness affects her sexiness.
It seems like for women, sexual attraction and emotional attraction are more intertwined. So there are a lot of ways where his goodness can come at the cost of his sexiness. Though I still don't believe actual niceness hurts a guy. It's just that a lot of things that make guys sexy also involve ignoring what a nice guy would do. In my case, I've always been surrounded by girls who "just want guys to fuck off" and "not be trying to get in her pants." So in trying to respect women, I would fuck off, or not try to get in her pants. The results are exactly as you would imagine. So me making a move and getting flirty involve me holding my nose and betraying what feels like a "good" thing to do. It's confusing af and why so many guys complain about this.
There IS one way I can see something similar in girls. Girls are often told one way of being "good" is to not sleep around or seem too sexually eager. So that would be a similar struggle. In trying to be "good" you may come off as asexual and lose a guy to a more sexually-realized woman, who you might see as "bad" or "giving in", which I think is where a lot of slut shaming comes from.00 Reply
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+1 yIn regards to what? Relationships? I wanna say no but yes they do. It’s a shitty dating atmosphere out there right now and men are either the hit it and quit it crowd or just not into women anymore. The feminists took over and changes women from soft and beautiful to cold cruel fat and ugly… and the good girls will feel this too…
In regards to other things… if you can’t fight for first you’ll never get it. Being walked in isn’t a good thing. Nice girls have to stand up and fight too and they usually are too soft to do this. I respect a woman who’s soft generally but can get tough when needed.00 Reply
Selfish guys finish first and think that concludes the sex.
"Nice guys" finish last because they still figure the male orgasm as the finish line and therefore they make the woman orgasm first to give her a chance to cum too.
Great guys finish first and then make their partner cum afterwards.
It's pretty damn exhausting to cum and then not get to relax right after, so the person working to get their partner off after their own orgasm is the mvp.21 Reply
It's the other way around: Not automatically getting what they want tends to make people nicer than they were before, and things really do start to look better, after that. It's a learning process.
The finishing last formulation is really one of the dumbest things in the world, like being an asshole is the right way to go. Please--who actually likes assholes? They don't even like themselves.00 Reply
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+1 yNice is just one quality out of waaaaaaay more involved. She could be nice but is she stupid? Horrible with money? Bad mom? Irresponsible? And so many other unanswered questions.
Sure a woman can be nice but is she girlfriend material as well? Or a good match for the guy when dating? Really depends on a lot of other personality traits/qualities. Not only is she nice.
She will probably finish last if she isn't girlfriend material to most guys. Needs to be more then she's nice. She won't finish last if she's nice and girlfriend material to most guys.10 Replypartially yes just to a much lesser degree than guys. the fact they are female gives them a much higher chance at sucess. sorry to have to take it to this but pyssy has more power than anything else. always has in fact. if you think am wrong, here us some food for thought.
how many wars have been fought over pussy? versus how many over money, dick, or religion? and yes there are plenty that fit into more than one of those categories. gonna name 2 very famous wars that at least partly started over pussy.
9/11 was partly done because osama got rejected by some westerner women.
the trojan war started over a nan's wife finding another lover.
how many businesses have had roots in pussy or getting pussy?
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medicine00 ReplyThey absolutely do. Nice girls get cheated on and manipulated. Then the guy dumps her when she’s no longer useful and moves on to his dream girl, which is a stripper/prostitute/porn star. Men one sex workers for partners. They don’t want nice girls… nice girls are dull, they are boring…. nice girls are plain janes and nobody likes them
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Fake news.
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This is what happens when you chase the bad boy
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Dull... boring... plain Jane. Sounds like my dream girl... and I'm not kidding.
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u +1 yI don't chase after trashy women who have no morals, no ambitions, and no respectability. I don't date a woman unless she is the kind of woman who would make me proud when I introduced her to my mother.
I have made a few exceptions to this general rule in my life and experience has taught me that those were bad decisions.20 Reply Being a “nice” person in general isn’t an admirable trait on any of the sexed. Period. If you’re too agreeable, too naive or impressionable the world will NEVER respect you and those who will go after you will probably go after you do manipulate you or put you down further to make themselves feel better.
Never, and I mean never, see being “nice” as a good thing.10 Reply
+1 yWhat Durocher was, talking about a specific team I don't remember, "They're nice guys. Probably finish last this year. Nice guys. Finish last."- not exactly what people think the quote's referring to.
The way it's usually used is true, because people who are more willing to do unethical things are more likely to succeed, in most ways people use the term. I suppose it's as true of women as of men.10 Reply
+1 yMale orgasms and female orgasms are very very different. While most men are able to delay their orgasm women don’t usually have this ability. My current partner won’t orgasm if I don’t orgasm first and this can be pretty tiring but I love the amount of effort he puts to make me orgasm.
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Watch 70 seconds of the following video from 1:50 to 3:00. She is the nice girl that most guys are looking for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gX8SYxtZH0&t=209s17 Reply
Asker+1 yWhy don’t guys notice her when she’s right there?
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@Asker Who says she isn't being noticed?
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@Jamie05rhs , Because guys only notice Instagram models, not everyday girls they pass on the street
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@Hermitess That isn't true. We notice you. We just don't talk to you because we don't want to bother you.
Asker+1 yYeah only after they’ve ran through all the easy girls dtf. Now he wants a nice girl who’s girlfriend material. Pass.
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@Asker Actually, a lot of us do want nice girls only. (We don't want to be with sluts At All.)
+1 yI'm going high opinion on a reply I did. It's educational. Lol. Truth? Tap em and leave em. It's how society flourishes. But you do need to do it right. Don't have as many baby mamas as you please, be responsible. Why is this not 101 commercials? Don't dip your baby batter where it causes unwanted pregnancy and don't drive drunk.
00 Reply506 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Nice guys finish last in business, war, and with women who haven't figured out they deserve better. Women like jerks until they get smart enough to get sick of them. The man who lets the least amount of things stand in his way will achieve his goals the fastest, but that's not always the right or moral way. No man wants a woman that acts like that. It might help a woman to act like that in business or war, but won't help her with most men.
00 ReplyI think that it definitely could be true. I think just like some guys can be "too nice", so can a girl. I think it takes a certain amount of initiative and self confidence whether you are a guy or a girl. But I will also say that I think that it's probably still worse for guys, because I think it's a much more dog-eat-dog thing for guys.
00 Reply716 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Starting to wonder the same, I have 2 friends who are nice girls. Like the caring girlfriend type and rlly loved their guys. But one ended up breaking up and the other constantly gets left hanging after waiting for the guy.
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+1 yA better question to ask would be "Do nice girls exist". My answer would be, "no". Either that, or they're the same thing as "nice guys", which is to say they're not nice girls who scream to the world that they are nice girls at the top of their lungs, then think that entitles them to male attention.
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+1 yWomen go after chad of a million options be default. AKA the top 20% of guys. They ignore nice guys on the bottom 80% like the plague. No sympathy here.
20 Reply337 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Nice girls will do great, it's the fat, the ugly and the masculine that finish last. Being shy and ackward is also a handicap especially if your not a looker.
00 ReplyA nice girl can only be found in a convent, all others are just girls fighting men for equality, space and control. Show me one female who isn’t after control over a man?
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+1 yNice girls will have their struggles from time to time. But their struggles are nowhere near with what nice guys have to deal with (when all else is equal).
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+1 yYes🤷🏾♀️.. And men can lie and say no all they want but men's actions say otherwise. You don't see them chasing the nice girl do you? It's usually the one that challenges them are the ones they chase.
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Nice girls demand too much, become drama queens, aren't giving nice guys a chance. NICE GIRLS DATE A$$HOLES. ON PURPOSE.
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@RichyRich887 and men marry bitches. Let's be honest
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+1 yI think that's more applicable to men since most can climax in about two minuets while the majority of women can't though just penetration. This saying is in reference to making sure that your partner finishes and actually cares about your pleasure.
00 Reply 4.3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Absolutely not. Every nice one I've met is happily married.
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Asker+1 yThat might be because they’re off the market so they’re defenses are unnecessary. Any woman in the market will tell you toughness is absolutely crucial.
Asker+1 yTheir defenses *
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yNice guys don't get any single relationship and sex from women.
Nice girls get sex but have no stable relationship with men.
So at last men get sex and women get a relationship. Nice guys have it worse than nice girls as women at least had one thing.00 ReplyOkay again reminding gender have nothing to do with this. Must be the 5th time in this week I'm saying this line.
00 ReplyNo, because women choose their mate. Simple as that. Men offer and women choose. The context is definitely different there.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yDepends on what kind of guy girl is into. If she wants the best of best than yes, she will "finish last" as in she will have to put in lot of time and energy to find that guy, And if she is willing to lower her standards, she can find anyone easily.
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Actually the cream of the crop men are constant targets for lying, manipulative and aggressive women. If guys like that she is truly genuine that’s actually a rare gem.
If you want to get a good guy as a nice girl, you won't finish last
20 ReplyNice guys finish last just means they've made the girl orgasm before they themselves orgasm. They finish last so the girl can finish at all. If a girl finishes last she's not nice at all. Because she didn't let him finish, ouch
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+1 yNot sure what that means. Maybe they just need to practice harder? Can’t depend only on your niceness to get to first place. It’s not very fair…
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+1 yQuite the opposite. I've had quite a few successes being kind while my rude peers have had less so.
10 ReplyI personally only ever dated the nice girls. I don’t like high end, high maintenance it’s not my style. I also do not like the mean girls.
10 Reply3K opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Nice or nasty... who cares> Women with 5 minutes blow job skill set FINISH FIRST for any Guy.
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which bird gets the worm? which sex the bird is doesn't matter...00 Reply - 488 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yI guess if you mean try to find the right guy. Also I guess it seems guys can finish before women during sex and then the women has to find a way to finish to get her orgasm.
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+1 yNice girl? There are nice ones? Where? Are they still on Mars?
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+1 yYes, the guy usually cums first and then helps the girl to cum later.
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+1 yNice girls are highly coveted in my opinion, nice guys aren't.
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to piggy back off my response, nice guys aren't seen as a viable option for young immature girls, established, respected, mature women will choose the nice guy who has good morals and will stand up for himself and for her and others, that's a true guy and a true man at heart. Being a nice guy should not be seen as something such as being demoted on the social hierarchy.
686 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. I would treat a genuinely nice woman like a goddamn Queen. Not in the simp way, just in a really good way.
10 Replyno it's not it's different for men authenticity and correct treatment attracts most women where as nice behavior along with authenticity makes most men wanna commit and stay
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+1 yno because girls can be nice and still get dates, men are meant to like be strong and aggressive and take charge. Women can be nice and get anyone to like them too. it is very different i think.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNo, not usually, but unfortunately, most nice guys do.
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+1 yWomen who don't speak up finish last or never gets seen
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I did not meet any during my time in the mating pool.00 Reply
+1 yTo be honest, they don't finish last they just get used after "finishing first"
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+1 yNo! No such thing.
Girls don’t need any skills to get guys or sex.10 ReplyNo just nice guys. Men don't want to be with mean girls with nothing to offer but an attitude and heavily used privates.
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yYes.
It's a question of balance. Nothing happens without a reason and nothing is unconditionally.10 Reply- 848 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic.
+1 yNo, not true. "Nice girls" win most of the time in the long run.
00 Reply Nice women are great friends and easy to talk to. All precursors for success
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+1 yThis depends if they're going for the top 20% they probably will. If they're going for the other 80% they will not have any trouble whatsoever.
00 ReplyI am not sure if that i want the woman to cum furst because she can cum many times. The guy usually cums afterand may take a little while to get the erection back up eeady to go again
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+1 yMaybe nice girls are used more/stay single due to fear of being used for sex.
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+1 yNo being overly nice is different for women than men
00 Reply The pretiest girls have always dominated female popularity.
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+1 yDepends on if they go with toxic guys/gals over kind ones that treat them with respect
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+1 yIf with bad guys yes of course cause they will use that to their advantage
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+1 yThe difference is that most guys would actually like a nice girl.
00 Reply302 opinions shared on Girl's Behavior topic. Nope. They finish at 1st or 2nd place compared to a genuine nice guy who always finishes last
10 ReplyNive guys are bottoms in list and after is nice girls then fboy the finally, the first in list who win are slu.. ts.
00 ReplyNice girls finish first. Its the opposite for guys unfortunately...
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+1 yYes in my oppinion they always finish last in bed ofcourse lol.
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+1 yit’s a trick question, there’s no such thing as nice girls they’re all bad 😂
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