Your wording and question is harsh, but I'll answer.
Some females are told "Never chase a man. It lowers your perceived value" type of bullshit. So, yes, many expect it. It's not based on their looks, really.
Women who are below average in looks still have more options than men with average to good looks. If they expect men to chase it’s likely because they’ve had men chase before.
Looks are subjective. Women you think are smoking hot others think they are ugly. All I know I don't expect any man to chase me, I know I'm what you call average and I'm good with that. My man thinks I'm beautiful and that's all that matters
if the woman in the picture is considered "unattractive" to you. You would be very disappointed once you enter 40s and 50s when you will no longer attract the hot girls that you're used to getting
Hot prostitutes are usually working for rich guys while the unattractive ones work for the old guys. Sometimes these rich guys will even marry these prostitutes. A famous one is melania trump
I make over six figures annually myself. And i can say that i would never ever marry a man who is just with me for the money. Why would i want a spouse who would ditch me after i stop paying him? I want a man who loves me for me and will stay with me regardless if im broke or rich
Men who go buy wives 45 years younger tend to just be old perverts desperate for sex. These are indecent guys with bad values. Once he meets a hotter girl, he will just dump her for the next
Any time a guy needs to brag about his money to get a woman or thinks he needs a lot of money to get a wife , its because no woman likes or wants him in the first place. No sane decent guy ever wants a gold digger for a wife.
@shaysh87 I can agree to that. I was working outside once with my shirt off and caught the attention of the builder who was a woman. She pulled up and had some smart ass remark about my work, like I wasn't doing it right or something. Then I figured out the real reason why she was criticizing my work when she told me that I could make it up to her by letting her take me to dinner and then back to her place so she could have her way with me. She was very bold, not exactly what I am used to from a woman, but I guess her money made her bold that way. No amount of money buys me. I would rather be with a woman who is dead broke, who treats me right and is my equal, then be with a woman just because she is rich.
I think that when someone is super successful , they tend to be more confident which may be the reason why she was so bold. Money doesn't grow on trees, it takes a lot of brains, talent, hard work, perseverence.
Many guys think that money makes them attractive. It doesn't. If girls dont like you when you aren't rich, girls won't like you if you become rich. The only difference is you're paying her to be with you. If you're old saggy and ugly when you're not rich, you will not suddenly look sexy when you're rich. It doesn't work that way. You may be able to afford a prostitute but it doesn't mean she finds you sexy
When i go on dates, i never ever reveal my salary or investments or properties. I dont drive a luxury car. I dont carry luxury purses. Because at the end of the day , i have no desire in attracting
When i go on dates, i never ever reveal my salary or investments or properties. I dont drive a luxury car. I dont carry luxury purses. Because at the end of the day , i have no desire in attracting gold diggers of any kind.
And another thing is, there are no shortage of gold diggers in our society. Most are poor uneducated women without any prospects. There are plenty that would latch onto someone purely for the money including men. I've met poor people who would do absolutely anything for easy money. And its a very sad reality. Rich educated people tend to marry other rich educated people. But its the few rich ones who are open minded enough to not care about a womans education, accomplishments or financial status , tend to fall prey to this the most.
This is a very big reason why people should always go for someone with an education and the ability to survive well on their own.
@shaysh87 I did go to college, dropped out after I finished the Pre-Req classes. I was studying for computer sciences. I had realized I am just not the type of person who can work at a desk all day and have a boss breathing down my neck. So I am more of a Blue Collar guy. However, I have no desire to live in homes that are larger than I can personally clean, I have a 99 Custom Firebird Trans-Am, and I do pretty good for myself. I don't want for anything, I don't need for anything. However, I am careful about who I date. Hell, these days if you can find somebody who isn't on some crazy drug, you are doing pretty good, lol. It's hard enough to just find somebody who made at least that right choice in their lives.
Thats not my point. My point is that the vast majority of gold diggers are irresponsible people without an education, cannot adequately support themselves, have no skills, lazy, no career prospects. These people are deadbeats who would desperately do absolutely anything for a free dollar. Its very important to have better standards to avoid marrying deadbeat gold diggers who are just using you for money
I've known quite a few wives who earn more than their husbands. And theyre happily married with kids. If you actually have something to offer , you wouldn't need money to get a wife
1) onlyfans 2) cam girls 3) porn 4) DATING she expects her man to have some type of money and it usually has to be a decent chunk 5) when women vet men what do they do ( how does he look, does he have MONEY, what does he work in ) 6) you lie to men for free food 7) you lie about men for money
maybe if you were better looking and more sociable then you would be able to have a real-life girlfriend rather than having a cam girl as your girlfriend.
@shaysh87 Yeah, I am all about men not taking crap from women but Neffex is going down a road with this that I just can't follow. I am not an absolutist and I recognize there are all kinds of different women just as there are all kinds of different men. What he says applies to some women but most definitely not for the majority of them. There are good women and bad women, just like there are good men and bad men. Neffex is treating this as if what he says applies to all women, and I just simply can't back him on this. I don't see the debate between the two of you going anywhere positive since Nef seems very hard core on his stance on the subject. You won't be changing his mind, nor will he be changing ours. Best just to let this one go and let people think whatever they like to think. Nothing good will come of this debate.
@NeffexSelfMade I just can't agree with this, man. I have been at a low at my life a time or two where I had absolutely nothing but the cloths on my back and still had zero issues finding women who wanted me for me and not for what I had or did not have. Granted, I am no longer in that position in my life, I am doing rather well for myself. However, doing well comes and goes, there is no promise that your money flow will always be there. Even the rich can go broke and lose it all. So considering that my personal experiences with women kind of contradict your beliefs of women, doesn't give me a lot of faith in your stance. I mean, feel free to think anything you like, you can only base life off of your personal experiences, it's just my personal experiences are far different from your own.
I find that most women raised in the era of gyno-centric feminism have a greatly exaggerated view of what "they deserve." They are way more focused on what they can get than what they can offer in a relationship. I call it a Cinderella Complex or the "Disney Delusion," and It's very unattractive. I think we have reached a titration point for relationships in our culture that is alarming, and men's natures haven't changed that much in 10,000 years.
There are plenty of them. I wouldn't say that they're completely delusional because there are always simps who will chase after them, but they do have an entitlement mentality and think that the most desirable men should chase them.
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My girlfriend rounds out to be average. She’s rocking hot hot but she lacks education and work ethic. She’s also struggling with addiction… We’ve been together for 1 1/2 years now. Now she’s even hotter also she’s gained enough motivation, she’s also very cool & I love her we gained a decent bit of friendship b4 dating and that added a wonderful flavour to the relationship. Love your friends and family + self and hopefully you’ll blaze through the night sky.
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+ always has worked on her addiction :) I’ll be proud of her even if we don’t make it all the way I pray we do though that bitxh is something 😩😎🤩
Simpy dudes with no standards have made this a phenomenon. Women don't need to "expect" it they are activity getting it no matter how repulsive they may look or behave
Below average in looks could have other positive qualities. I’ve known some fat, ugly, stupid, bitchy, foul mouthed, chain smoking alcoholic women who complain they can’t find decent men. Thinking they can get one is delusional.
I think in that way, we guys are worse because we start crushing about every other pretty face or hot mama that we keep bumping into every day without thinking that 99% of those females will not give a shit about me.
I’m not gonna do it because they become deadweight and then What do they bring to the table? Your always paying and paying and doing things and waiting on them no way they don’t even cook or clean
@Agagagagaga It's weird how women who say "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder" never extends that same logic to me or is willing to date or sleep with me, despite my award-winning personality. Funny how they saying only applies to *other* people. 😂
@hIopinionated_ You are getting near the wall and losing most of your value. lol Women in their 30s fertility drops off sharply. Men get until 55 and it drops off gradually. It is scientifically and statistically proven. You lose your value a lot. Women bring much less to a relationship to begin with and once they lose the ability to have healthy kids they have little value left.
You sound like a weirdo caveman. Who cares about being fertile or kids. Let me guess? You’re a pedophile who looks at 12 years like “ooo she’s so fertile now”. Creepy rapist seek help.
“Men get until 55” 😂😂 keep telling yourself that. You’re all ugly and old with your saggy balls and faces
@hIopinionated_ You are obviously a delusional man hating feminist liberal that spreads lies. it is obvious from your other posted opinions. You are pathetic.
And why it is that every time a woman doesn’t agree with sexist bs, people like you automatically believe we’re feminists and liberals? Very telling of who’s on the right side of history. Definitely not you
@hIopinionated_ I looked at your profile opinions. You support lies and hate. You very much are a liberal. What are you going to do, delete all of your opinions to hide it? Seriously, you are trash.
The fact that you took the question and turned it to that topic means that you do have something inherently against women in their mid 30's. Your perspective is bias at best.
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Your wording and question is harsh, but I'll answer.
Some females are told "Never chase a man. It lowers your perceived value" type of bullshit. So, yes, many expect it. It's not based on their looks, really.
Women who are below average in looks still have more options than men with average to good looks. If they expect men to chase it’s likely because they’ve had men chase before.
Women below average in looks still have more options with: old men, poor men, mediocre men etc.
So almost all men lol
Looks are subjective. Women you think are smoking hot others think they are ugly. All I know I don't expect any man to chase me, I know I'm what you call average and I'm good with that. My man thinks I'm beautiful and that's all that matters
if the woman in the picture is considered "unattractive" to you. You would be very disappointed once you enter 40s and 50s when you will no longer attract the hot girls that you're used to getting
just buy them lol
@NeffexSelfMade Just buy them? Have you ever seen a hot prostitute? I sure haven't... they are rejects.
@Ghostluck @neffexselfmade
Why would anyone want a prostitute for a girlfriend?
A ugly old man who pays me to be with him will not make me more attracted to him.
@Ghostluck
Hot prostitutes are usually working for rich guys while the unattractive ones work for the old guys. Sometimes these rich guys will even marry these prostitutes. A famous one is melania trump
Hahaha, was she really a prostitute? I don't know much about her at all.
@Ghostluck
she's just in it for the money.
@shaysh87 Ah okay, I see what you mean now, lol. She's a gold digger.
@Ghostluck
dude what are you talking about?
a relationship is prostitution
@NeffexSelfMade
I make over six figures annually myself. And i can say that i would never ever marry a man who is just with me for the money. Why would i want a spouse who would ditch me after i stop paying him? I want a man who loves me for me and will stay with me regardless if im broke or rich
Men who go buy wives 45 years younger tend to just be old perverts desperate for sex. These are indecent guys with bad values. Once he meets a hotter girl, he will just dump her for the next
@NeffexSelfMade
Any time a guy needs to brag about his money to get a woman or thinks he needs a lot of money to get a wife , its because no woman likes or wants him in the first place. No sane decent guy ever wants a gold digger for a wife.
@shaysh87 I can agree to that. I was working outside once with my shirt off and caught the attention of the builder who was a woman. She pulled up and had some smart ass remark about my work, like I wasn't doing it right or something. Then I figured out the real reason why she was criticizing my work when she told me that I could make it up to her by letting her take me to dinner and then back to her place so she could have her way with me. She was very bold, not exactly what I am used to from a woman, but I guess her money made her bold that way. No amount of money buys me. I would rather be with a woman who is dead broke, who treats me right and is my equal, then be with a woman just because she is rich.
@Ghostluck
I think that when someone is super successful , they tend to be more confident which may be the reason why she was so bold. Money doesn't grow on trees, it takes a lot of brains, talent, hard work, perseverence.
Many guys think that money makes them attractive. It doesn't. If girls dont like you when you aren't rich, girls won't like you if you become rich. The only difference is you're paying her to be with you. If you're old saggy and ugly when you're not rich, you will not suddenly look sexy when you're rich. It doesn't work that way. You may be able to afford a prostitute but it doesn't mean she finds you sexy
@Ghostluck
When i go on dates, i never ever reveal my salary or investments or properties. I dont drive a luxury car. I dont carry luxury purses. Because at the end of the day , i have no desire in attracting
@Ghostluck
When i go on dates, i never ever reveal my salary or investments or properties. I dont drive a luxury car. I dont carry luxury purses. Because at the end of the day , i have no desire in attracting gold diggers of any kind.
@Ghostluck
And another thing is, there are no shortage of gold diggers in our society. Most are poor uneducated women without any prospects. There are plenty that would latch onto someone purely for the money including men. I've met poor people who would do absolutely anything for easy money. And its a very sad reality. Rich educated people tend to marry other rich educated people. But its the few rich ones who are open minded enough to not care about a womans education, accomplishments or financial status , tend to fall prey to this the most.
This is a very big reason why people should always go for someone with an education and the ability to survive well on their own.
@shaysh87 I did go to college, dropped out after I finished the Pre-Req classes. I was studying for computer sciences. I had realized I am just not the type of person who can work at a desk all day and have a boss breathing down my neck. So I am more of a Blue Collar guy. However, I have no desire to live in homes that are larger than I can personally clean, I have a 99 Custom Firebird Trans-Am, and I do pretty good for myself. I don't want for anything, I don't need for anything. However, I am careful about who I date. Hell, these days if you can find somebody who isn't on some crazy drug, you are doing pretty good, lol. It's hard enough to just find somebody who made at least that right choice in their lives.
@Ghostluck
Thats not my point. My point is that the vast majority of gold diggers are irresponsible people without an education, cannot adequately support themselves, have no skills, lazy, no career prospects. These people are deadbeats who would desperately do absolutely anything for a free dollar. Its very important to have better standards to avoid marrying deadbeat gold diggers who are just using you for money
your money of 6 figures has no value in my eyes
what im saying IS THAT WOMEN IN GENERAL ARE PROSTITUTES
WHETHER THE GIRL IS MAKING A LOT OR A LITTLE MONEY CHANGES NOTHING
your gender are prostitutes
and it is very easy to prove
@NeffexSelfMade
I've known quite a few wives who earn more than their husbands. And theyre happily married with kids. If you actually have something to offer , you wouldn't need money to get a wife
it doesn't matter MONEY HAS NO VALUE
you keep talking about money cause you are a prostitute lol
do you hear yourself
women see men as objects and tools to make their life easier
FACT lol
@NeffexSelfMade
you sound like you're in so much pain. I'm sorry dating hadn't worked out for you.
@shaysh87
no im in pain because I accept reality
and you are to blind to see or care about reality
Ecclesiastes 1:18
with great knowledge comes great sorrow
thats why you will not make it when you die
you will be thrown away
@NeffexSelfMade
" All women are prostitutes" says it all about your attitude towards women.
I can go online and prove it right now
1) onlyfans
2) cam girls
3) porn
4) DATING she expects her man to have some type of money and it usually has to be a decent chunk
5) when women vet men what do they do ( how does he look, does he have MONEY, what does he work in )
6) you lie to men for free food
7) you lie about men for money
I can keep going
@NeffexSelfMade
maybe if you were better looking and more sociable then you would be able to have a real-life girlfriend rather than having a cam girl as your girlfriend.
@shaysh87
already had a girlfriend
already had plenty of sex
I have had girls offer to be my girlfriend
as I said before
this is you women
NOT THE MEN
you girls have to change
@NeffexSelfMade
if you had a happy successful dating life , you wouldn't accuse all women of prostitutes.
@shaysh87 Yeah, I am all about men not taking crap from women but Neffex is going down a road with this that I just can't follow. I am not an absolutist and I recognize there are all kinds of different women just as there are all kinds of different men. What he says applies to some women but most definitely not for the majority of them. There are good women and bad women, just like there are good men and bad men. Neffex is treating this as if what he says applies to all women, and I just simply can't back him on this. I don't see the debate between the two of you going anywhere positive since Nef seems very hard core on his stance on the subject. You won't be changing his mind, nor will he be changing ours. Best just to let this one go and let people think whatever they like to think. Nothing good will come of this debate.
how can I not accuse women of being prostitutes?
you saw the list of all the prostitution going on
this is you women
YOU HAVE TO CHANGE
and if not good luck circling the earth
@Ghostluck
there is a whole study on the internet
WOMEN ARE A HIVE MIND
most of the women look for the same things
but will go about it in different ways
but at the end
its the same goal
and what I say applies to the majority of women
cause women do not date unless the guy has something to offer
especially if he is ugly
@Ghostluck
I think he's probably a mix of mentally ill and having a bad experience with dating women.
@NeffexSelfMade I just can't agree with this, man. I have been at a low at my life a time or two where I had absolutely nothing but the cloths on my back and still had zero issues finding women who wanted me for me and not for what I had or did not have. Granted, I am no longer in that position in my life, I am doing rather well for myself. However, doing well comes and goes, there is no promise that your money flow will always be there. Even the rich can go broke and lose it all. So considering that my personal experiences with women kind of contradict your beliefs of women, doesn't give me a lot of faith in your stance. I mean, feel free to think anything you like, you can only base life off of your personal experiences, it's just my personal experiences are far different from your own.
@Ghostluck
sorry bro the info and videos are on the internet so there is no excuse
ITS PHYSICALLY PROVEN
my words are not made up imaginary fairy tales
ITS PHYSICAL REALITY
@NeffexSelfMade I'll take my life experiences over a video on the internet any day. That's just how I feel about it, man.
@Ghostluck
okay
ill take life experience and videos
I find that most women raised in the era of gyno-centric feminism have a greatly exaggerated view of what "they deserve." They are way more focused on what they can get than what they can offer in a relationship. I call it a Cinderella Complex or the "Disney Delusion," and It's very unattractive. I think we have reached a titration point for relationships in our culture that is alarming, and men's natures haven't changed that much in 10,000 years.
There are plenty of them. I wouldn't say that they're completely delusional because there are always simps who will chase after them, but they do have an entitlement mentality and think that the most desirable men should chase them.
My girlfriend rounds out to be average. She’s rocking hot hot but she lacks education and work ethic. She’s also struggling with addiction… We’ve been together for 1 1/2 years now. Now she’s even hotter also she’s gained enough motivation, she’s also very cool & I love her we gained a decent bit of friendship b4 dating and that added a wonderful flavour to the relationship. Love your friends and family + self and hopefully you’ll blaze through the night sky.
+ always has worked on her addiction :) I’ll be proud of her even if we don’t make it all the way I pray we do though that bitxh is something 😩😎🤩
I'd go beyond that & say 100% of women who expect men to chase them are delusional if they're looking for quality guys.
Simpy dudes with no standards have made this a phenomenon.
Women don't need to "expect" it they are activity getting it no matter how repulsive they may look or behave
Below average in looks could have other positive qualities. I’ve known some fat, ugly, stupid, bitchy, foul mouthed, chain smoking alcoholic women who complain they can’t find decent men. Thinking they can get one is delusional.
They’ll get guys who chase them. Just not usually super hot guys. So no they’re not totally delusional.
No nice guys I know are opposed to below average girls.
Below average girls are usually not as stuck up and playing hard to get.
Lol is she below average? But I guess whatever bro, it depends on more than the looks. Some people ain't so shallow
Not really. Social media and dating apps kinda shape this mindset, in a way that they wouldn't know any better.
I think in that way, we guys are worse because we start crushing about every other pretty face or hot mama that we keep bumping into every day without thinking that 99% of those females will not give a shit about me.
I’m not gonna do it because they become deadweight and then What do they bring to the table? Your always paying and paying and doing things and waiting on them no way they don’t even cook or clean
you sound like a jerk. beauty is in the eye of the beholder. are you below average?
You just said beauty is in the eye of the beholder then asked if they are below average in looks.
Are you intentionally making contradictory statements?
@Agagagagaga
It's weird how women who say "Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder" never extends that same logic to me or is willing to date or sleep with me, despite my award-winning personality. Funny how they saying only applies to *other* people. 😂
Not as delusional as the men who think looks are the be all and end all.
Never met an average or below looking woman. All of them are absolute goddesses, so I don't know what you're talking about
Not as delusional as women in their mid 30s or older that think good men would be interested in them.
You’re literally in your 40s. Speak for yourself old man
@hIopinionated_ You are getting near the wall and losing most of your value. lol
Women in their 30s fertility drops off sharply. Men get until 55 and it drops off gradually. It is scientifically and statistically proven. You lose your value a lot. Women bring much less to a relationship to begin with and once they lose the ability to have healthy kids they have little value left.
You sound like a weirdo caveman. Who cares about being fertile or kids. Let me guess? You’re a pedophile who looks at 12 years like “ooo she’s so fertile now”. Creepy rapist seek help.
“Men get until 55” 😂😂 keep telling yourself that. You’re all ugly and old with your saggy balls and faces
@hIopinionated_ You are obviously a delusional man hating feminist liberal that spreads lies. it is obvious from your other posted opinions. You are pathetic.
Pathetic pedo calling me pathetic because I called you out on your sexist bs. How manipulative lol
And why it is that every time a woman doesn’t agree with sexist bs, people like you automatically believe we’re feminists and liberals? Very telling of who’s on the right side of history. Definitely not you
@hIopinionated_ I looked at your profile opinions. You support lies and hate. You very much are a liberal. What are you going to do, delete all of your opinions to hide it? Seriously, you are trash.
The fact that you took the question and turned it to that topic means that you do have something inherently against women in their mid 30's. Your perspective is bias at best.