Why do a lot of women make the claim that men have unrealistic standards?

[Anonymous]

Ill tell you right now most men dont have ridiculous and unrealistic standards

[Fromdusktilldawn]

Actually its the other way around, eomen have extremely high standards

[Asker]

They'll call you an incel for saying that

[Fromdusktilldawn]

Yea thats too easy. Women and their victim card love to whine about stuff and out of desperation claim stuff that isn't true at all. Everyone I kbow says men's standards are not that high, and they mostly want a girl who is supportive to them and is at least kinda attractive. Women on the other hand: tall guy, money, confident, provider, control

[Asker]

I agree man

[Juxtapose]

It's because they are chasing the men who have the most options.

[Asker]

That's what I've been telling them 😂

[Anonymous]

The word unrealistic is very subjective

Usually standards are based on how you view yourself and others around you and whether they view you the same way or not.

Also... If you want to end up dating a somewhat attractive person
You are more likely to end up finding an attractive person who actually likes you if you spend time in places where attractive people are a dime and dozen and abundant in numbers.

Same goes with rich people... if you frequent places where many are rich you'll likely end up with a rich spouse because they don't have a leverage there because everyone else around them is also rich.

The average would be so high that even if you score a date with someone on the low end of the spectrum... you are still ending up with someone attractive or rich... which... if you are somewhat average in all aspects... would still be a win-win scenario for you.

The real reason why women and men complain is because there are sooo many beautiful women out there and sooo many rich men out there that they have to competitively one up each other in order to get a better date...

However... if you were a rarity... for example... maybe a very very attractive guy... or a very rich and successful woman... you have a higher chance at getting your pick of better dates because you are so scare and unique.

However... if you want to be seen as UNIQUE and get a leverage in your relationship... simply go to places where your personal good traits are very rare...
if you are rich... go to places where no one is competing with you... same with pretty... that will give you more choices to choose from

[Asker]

The top 20% of men get their pick

[SaraSmithishere]

Well, I am a very fit attractive woman, and when I was in college, there were so many fat, smelly, socially awkward men who came onto me and the other most attractive women at my college, and then whined when no one wanted them. One guy in particular was named Hugh, and he was 5'10 and almost 300 lbs. with acne, a terrible personality, baggage, and he would routinely go after the most attractive women, and then complain when he was rejected.
I think most of those guys got a reality check by the time they hit 25, and found equally "attractive" mates

[Asker]

Just because you see those men hitting on just said women, doesn't mean they aren't hitting on any other women. Men have a much wider range of whats attractive compared to women. Most men in the bottom 80% are perfectly fine with average and below average women

[desidoll]

@SaraSmithishere Exactly. They go around and complain about not getting a date, but hit on attractive women.

[Asker]

They don't just hit on attractive women. Men hit on all kinds of women. But even average and below average women don't want the 80%

[monorprise]

Its true, the sad part for women is, those 20% of men they do actually think are "normal" have soo many women interested in them, they are already taken by their early 20s or are probably playing the field to spread their seed as widely as possible.

In the process leaving a lot of women with a bad impression of men as players. In the end unless expectation are realistic everyone loses. Our problem of course is Hollywood making both sides feel attractive people are far more common than they ever were, as well as making the bulk of us couch potatos.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

They probably say that because it is their experience. Just like men saying XYZ because it is their experience.


I’ve met a handle of guys who wouldn’t date some people or me because we didn’t fit the whole checklist of what they considered “date material” or what they considered attractive. It’s just experience, and probably other peoples experiences that influence these claims.


For example, some men on here talk about how women only go after 6ft+ guys, rich guys, or guys with big dicks… It’s their experiences (their experience with getting women, or not getting women) that led them to make these claims. Not to mention, when other men also have the same experience, it gives them more of a reason to make these claims.

[Asker]

The men that are getting the women are in the minority

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Hm, well you don’t know that for sure. Plenty of men are in relationships…

Maybe the men who get toms of women flocking to them is a majority. However, men getting in relationships/dating in general, is not a minority.

[Misterm93]

If were talking single men vs men in relationships 10% - 20% of single men which is the minority have the attention of 80% majority of single women. Yeah there are men out there who are in relationships there but even those 80% of women tend to try to go after those same men in relationships to so men who have women flocking to them are the minority of men, where the men who dont are the majority

[Asker]

Pretty much

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

That 20% is pure fiction. That is data from dating websites only where you only get judged by your profile picture. Most men can't even take a decent picture.
But why do you think more than 20% of men are in relationships? Do you think their partners just settled? No even close.
There are studies done on this. Both men and women get asked to rate people from the opposite gender. Based on looks first and then after they get to meet them and talk. After knowing the person women's rating of men changed drastically, for better or worse, depending on how much they like the conversation and the connection they had. Men's ratings we're almost the same.
In other words you can be supper attractive that if you have a shitty personality you will be graded a 5 real quick. And vice versa.

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 i said 20% of single men have the attention of the 80% of single women

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 I know. I keep what I said.

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 ok but then what I said about 20% of single men isn't fiction and its not from dating sites and you say there are studies show me statistics that prove me wrong instead of just saying there are studies because if I'm wrong and you're saying it's pure fiction give statistics of single men vs men in relationships please I really want to know

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 saw it on a documentary on Netflix about attraction called "Explained". It has several episodes and one of them is on attraction.

The 20% is not a stat from a dating site? It's the source I have seen everyone quote when I saw this on other questions. Where did it came from then?

[Asker]

How is fiction? Let's debate on this man

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Like I said I have seen that "women are only attracted to 80% of men" on this site before. Often in fact. They always say it came from data from a dating site. Apparently that's not the source and I am curious.

About it being fiction, more than 20% of men today are in relationships. You can say all girls who are not with the 20% settled. But not only a number given by a dating app is dubious, but also the documentary that I saw called "Explained" about attraction, clearly doesn't agree.

[Asker]

Give me s source and ill give you sources backing the 80/20 rule

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 so I may have been wrong but then I'm still not sure but I did find this website that give a lot of statistics on multiple aspects of dating im not at level 3 xp on this site soni can't post the link

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I already did. Documentary on Netflix called "Explained". Has several episodes, see the one on attraction.
Now where did the 80/20 came from?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 you can put the link here. Make it like this for example:
W w w. Goo gle. Com
Put spaces between the words and it doesn't get identified as a link.

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 https:// moderngentlemen. net/ dating-statistics/

[Misterm93]

Like I said I'm probably wrong on the 80 20 thing but from what I've seen on podcast from not only regular people but also people like Kevin samuels have touched base on this subject but a lot of them didn't mention dating sites when they spoke about the 80 20 in dating

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 you are close to my age and I will be honest with you. What worked in the age of our fathers and grandfathers is not what works on our generation anymore. Those guys on podcasts and Kevin Samuels talk like we still are on those days.
Not to say they don't have valuable advice, they do. Specially on how to improve yourself. Eat better, workout, learn to dress and read more etc.
But when it comes to interactions with women, let me be very clear unless you have a woman that also prefers the old school type of approach is not going to work. Which more and more girls are not.
So your sources are those podcasts right?

[Asker]

80/20 rule is about women's attraction to men. That's why i brought it up

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Are your sources the same sources as @Misterm93? You heard them on podcasts?

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 before yeah, but not now like I said i really wanna know and if were talking about modern day dating even in the podcasts they talk about how modern day women mainly go after 20% of men, looking at height, financial stability, penis size, amount other things but they didn't say anything about dating sites. Actually the only thing I heard about dating sites is that its the worst place to be if you're a man trying to date in the modern day dating scene

[Misterm93]

Amoung*

[Misterm93]

But this whole thing is about weither the minority of men have most women after them compared to the majority of men. True or false a minority percentage of men have the attention of the majority percentage of women

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 there is nothing wrong in looking up for information. But you need to be careful where you get it from. Most of those guys are talking nothing but made up bullshit. They have absolutely nothing, but pseudo science and a bias views to defend their ideas.

Regarding online dating I have two friends, one guy and a girl, who met their current partners on a dating app.
I had my fun with dating apps. Yes it can be very demoralizing and frustrating. But if you are capable of dealing with some rejection it you lose nothing by trying. Doesn't have to be tinder. There are many.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 if you ask me if a man who is tall, well build, has posture, a good career, has charisma and is genuinely nice attracts a lot of girls? Sure he does.
That's like asking if a cute blonde, with blue yes, big boobs and ass, who cleans and cooks like a goddess and is super caring and loving gets a lot of attention. Sure.

If most men don't have girls after them? Probably they don't. But I don't think most girls have guys after them either.

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 i guess it all stems from the original question but altered so it fits both men and women. Why do both men and women tend to have at times unrealistic standards? Both sides have check lists for when it comes to having who they want to marry or have kids with compared to just wanting to fuck. Realistically we all can agree modern day dating depending on who you are sucks

[Misterm93]

Yeah but even on those other sites that aren't tinder most guys on there don't get the time of day, same as if they are trying to date in person, they'll have a better shot in person compared to the sites but even that site bumble im sure they're plenty of guys on there but im sure the women on there mainly go for the dude that they find hot based off the pic same as the guys they go for women they find hot overall modern day dating, online and in person sucks but thats life I haven't given up ik that for sure its just I want to make sure I'm happy with my life before I try to bring someone else into it

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

@Misterm93 modern dating can be hard for sure. Still opens more opportunities than we had back in day without dating apps.
If those opportunities are of quality... that's another issue.

[Misterm93]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 true true only thing we can hope is that things get easier

[hi_it_is_me123]

https://realitycalc.com/

Here you can see whether you are unrealistic or not. It is ok to be unrealistic or shallow as long as you dont whine when the person you want dont want you and as long as you dont bodyshame anyone.
In my experience women are the one who constantly get told shallow. Are you new on the internet? I rarely see a nice/neutral commentsection of a youtube video about women's preferences. Women get ridiculed for prefering tall men for example but nobody ridicule men for wanting virgin 18-21 years old pretty girls on gag in my experience.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Anyway what are you going to do? Forcing men or women date people who are not attractive to them? It is their sexuality. As long as you dont bodyshame anyone, i see nothing wrong with preferences

[Elony]

Euwww men are so grosss, flat stomach bikini models, wanting 20 years virgins, are all the only things in their mind, dont trust them , sorry to be honest, sorry

[Friendlybro79]

I can't answer for women but I can ask how many women have you heard make the this claim to you personally?

Also, you say the opposite is true of most men. What's that 65%, 75%, 95%? Whatever you think it is, the reality is some people, are going to have low, realistic, and unrealistic standards because that's just how people are...

Also this then falls onto your personal view of what realistic standards are. Is there an actual standard by which one could measure what is realistic or unrealistic?

Who's monitoring the reality of which you speak of? Now I know this sounds ridiculous but what is ridiculous? Ok that last one is a joke but meant to make it a little light hearted.

My point is check your feelings, speak to someone who can advise you on if it's you and not the majority of the female population. I mean this to be direct but not mean. I wish you well.

[Anonymous]

It all falls back on the level of self-centeredness of the woman. A lot of times it’s like this: She thinks she deserves the best of the best. It’s the “I’m the prize” mentality. She’s likely good looking but has been corrupted by sexual encounters, had flings with high percentile men and thinks she’s at that level herself, when her attitude and personality often times sucks.

Ultimately it’s as if she can do no wrong and she doesn’t realize how often this can sabotage a relationship, for which she will blame the man for. “These men just can’t handle me” or “aren’t good enough for me” and then she projects this idea onto all women and then relates it back to the majority of men, thus “men can’t have high standards.”

Men having standards would require her and these kinds of women to look themselves in the mirror and change her ways and humble herself.

[Biancam13]

Some of them do. It’s only a problem if they feel entitled to women just because they’re attracted to them. Even if the women they want don’t reciprocate.

Also, it’s ok for any man to ask out any woman. Sometimes the woman might even like them back. But some men won’t take no for an answer just because they feel entitled by their attraction to you. They don’t take into account the woman’s feelings when they say no and refuse to lower their standards or stop asking her out.

[Biancam13]

I’ve had a few guys who would persist until I literally had to block them because they couldn’t handle not getting what they wanted and started harassing me to go out with them. When I say no the first time, it doesn’t mean try again.

[Cathy7734]

Not too long ago a friend of mine got asked out and she politely declined. He angrily yelled out, "F*cking Lesbian!"

[Asker]

"Some of them do" yes high value men have standards and then women think even the bottom 80% of men are like that. That guy is insecure because in his mind he can't attract anyone and is desperate and acts like a straight up loser. The red pill teaches men how to handle rejection. This guy you described needs the red pill

[TrulyPink28]

I'm curious, why do you reserve high standards to the top 10-20% of earners? I've known good looking men who were managers in firms, but not earning as high of a salary compared with me, but they still expected me to have the flat stomach, to have toned arms, inspect my photos and body a lot, attempt to control my every move and action... how can one explain that?

[Asker]

High value doesn't just mean high earner. A man that is wanted by other women is a high value man. These high value men have standards and then women think the bottom 80% of men have these standards too

[TrulyPink28]

I love hearing different opinions regarding what consists of a high value man. From my understanding, one aspect of a high value man has to earning something significant or moving towards earning i. e. At least £$ or £ 100k per annum consistently, incrementing and by legal means. Can a high value man be homeless? Honestly, most women want a man who brings something significant or are ambitious enough to work towards their goals without glass ceiling limitations. Other attributes of a high value man include being recognized, accepted, networking with other high value men. Additionally, being useful to other high value men and others. A high value woman also has standards to meet.

[Asker]

A high value men generally has money and high status. But other things factor into that too. And women are hypergamous by nature so naturally a man will have to a lot going for him to be seen as someone dateable. And lol there is no such thing as a high value woman. Thstd silly

[TrulyPink28]

Oh my goodness! You haven't heard of a high value women! Not the same criteria as for men, but does a woman's sexual market value, her femininity, friendliness, fitness, how she inspires you, whether she's childless or has children never cross men's minds? There are highly valuable women which men go for repeatedly and women who don't even get a side eye.😀

[TrulyPink28]

Women also need to be useful to men & know their value. Also, the caliber of men who want to keep a certain woman is an indication of how much of an asset she is to him/other men.

[Asker]

Women dont need to do half the things men have to do. Men have to put more work into dating and relationships. All a women needs. Be attractive (she doesn't have to be a model) have a great personality & be there for your man. That's all it takes. Men and women's standards are different. A man has to create his value, women are born with but women must protect the value they're born with.

[Ryfyle]

Probably because you're a drain on Payroll.

[MCheetah]

It's projection. It's like "if EVERYONE has unrealistic standards, I can feel betterand judgment free about my own!"

[Slim57]

Because they're offended a lot of men prefer thinner women for the most part when women are the ones who actually do have unrealistic standards and anyone in denial should make a fake profile on a dating site with an average looking guy and see for themselves

[DizzyDesii]

A lot of men dont seem to have standards at all. The just want to get laid. And The few who do have standards have standards that seem pretty realistic. Rare but realistic

[red324]

I dropped my standards real low once and while I did get my dick sucked she still gave me all the same problems as any other girl so I'm not doing that again. Women are people just like anyone else and they all have their insecurities no matter what they look like. I wasn't ever all that attracted to that particular girl, but in the beginning she seemed to keep her word and put in more effort than any other girl so I went along with it, but after a couple months she started getting flakey and wasting my time so that was that.

[DizzyDesii]

@red324 yea dont drop your standards unless you feel you need to

[Seinna]

Do they?

Me and my friends are really attractive so we were complaining that men are not good enough for us, not the other way around.

I know, shocking for a woman to say something like that :)

[Asker]

High value men have options. You have to stand out to them. You're playing by their rules. The bottom 80% are invisible to you

[TrulyPink28]

I concur. High value men have the $$ to decide. Hence why a high value woman comes into play😋

[Asker]

I already told you high value women dont exist

[TrulyPink28]

That's an opinion:)

[Asker]

If you look at logically and observe the differences between men and women, you'll see it's a fact

[Ryfyle]

You sound incredibly boring.

[Seinna]

But we all have amazing partners now :) And they are what you'd call "high value" but it took time to find them... not to stand out to them, but to actually find them. That's not to say they're millionaires because believe it or not, that's not what most women value the most about men. As I said, me and all my friends are really attractive and attracting men in general wasn't an issue. Also, I'm not playing by anyone's rules but my own and the rules of supply and demand. And I'm still a woman.

I expect from my partner what I myself offer, no more and no less. I think that's pretty simple and yet too difficult for some people (men) to understand.

[Asker]

Womens actions > words. That's what i follow. Most women today have high standards and rare exceptions don't disprove the rule. When it comes to high value men, sorry ma'am you're playing by their rules. They worked their asses off to get to that stage and because a lot of women are attracted to them, they make the rules. I use to be envious of high value men until i learned that they had to work to get to that point and in general men have to work harder than women when it comes to the dating world. Women think 80% of men are unattractive and only the top 20% of men are getting the women. This is called hypergamy and every woman is hypergamous to an extent. That's the way things work

[Seinna]

To you high value man is just a man who's rich? :) Financial stability is important but money doesn't matter as much as you think and not to every woman. Why is it so hard for materialistic people to understand that not everyone is materialistic? Personally I think there's nothing worst than a spoiled man :) Money is good to have up to a point and then it becomes bothersome, at least for me. I value other qualities in men, some less common than money and most that can't be bought with money. But if to you a high quality man is just a man with money then sorry, I think even if you become such a man you will not be happy with whatever women you attract with it. But to each their own.

[Asker]

High value man can also mean in general you have a lot of women attracted to you. Doesn't have to be just money. Looks and status also play a big part. And again actions>words. Women say one thing but the actions show another. All women are hypergamous but to which extent, differs

[Ryfyle]

@Seinna So you give the asker response that are just blatant bullshit and lies. Real High Value there.

[Seinna]

@Ryfyle you're just a bitter bitter man to assume that a person you don't agree with is lying. Stop projecting your own shittiness on other people. Or actually do, you're only hurting yourself in the end.

[Ryfyle]

@Seinna I bet you look up a mans Credit Score before you date them. I know your type well, do anything in your power to save face, say anything to seem like a "Good Person". You don't look for Men, You look for Financial opportunities, Some push over with a good stock portfolio so you can post Instagram pics of your self in Tahiti on some suckers dime.

[Seinna]

@Ryfyle again, you're projecting, you don't know shit about me :)

[Ryfyle]

@Seinna You're reaction tells me everything. Why all the lies?

[omnivert]

I say men will be men,
Easy to understand but hard to accept the reality that they are the strengh of a woman in a mature relationship.

Anyways they claim to their men only because nothing is permanent until you got married happily ever after.

[SnakeBoop]

meh, like anything, a lot of folks take a minority and blow it up like they're a majority (same as incels about gold diggers for isntance).

[Asker]

The difference is men really do have a wide variety of what's attractive compared to women. There's nothing wrong with women having high standards though

[Claudia233]

Maybe because they are not in happy relationships. Really happy women (and men by the way) wouldn't spend much time on social media complaining. So that's why it looks like the people that are not satisfied are so many...

[Vegasrunner]

@Claudia233 I think that's false. People make this claim so that it disqualifies them from having to respect any view that they dont agree w/.

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

I don't know maybe for the same reason so many men say women have unrealistic standards🤷🏼‍♀️

[Asker]

Men have a point. But there's nothing wrong with that. Women however are wrong for saying that most men are picky when only the top 20% are

[Brainsbeforebeauty]

Whatever🙄

[TrulyPink28]

I'm curious, why do you reserve this statement to the top 10-20% of earners? I've known good looking men who were managers in firms, but not earning as high a salary, and they were expecting me to have the flat stomach, to have toned arms, inspecting my photos and body a lot, attempting to control my every move and action... how can one explain that?

[Asker]

I explained it on your actual comment section

[Emerald55346]

I don’t think most guys have unrealistic standards, I think it’s typically the other way around. Ever watch Kevin Samuels average at best.

[Asker]

Wait hold up. Are you saying women have high unrealistic standards they put on men?

[Emerald55346]

Lol ya I can’t tell you how many women won’t even consider a man because he isn’t at least 6ft tall I think it’s really superficial

[Asker]

a lot of women will still deny it and say we're the picky ones lol

[Emerald55346]

Ya couldn’t yelp to notice a lot of the opinions from others turned into discussions on hypergamy and defining high value men, I personally think that they are interesting topics but very irrelevant in terms of finding the right person, I think it all comes down to ignoring the statistics and finding someone that has similar values and enjoyments, when these things aren’t present both men and women are always going to be looking for something better. You have to be with someone that is loyal which can unfortunately can be hard to find, another issue is we are not raised in a society that teaches us to date with a purpose or how to create stability or structure in a relationship, these are probably contributing factors why women are hypergamous and a lot of men think with their dicks.

[aided_]

well what are your standardsyou may not realise how unrealistic they areand what do you even consider to be unrealistic its just not an easy claim to make

[Asker]

Unrealistic standards that make women believe that men only want to a specific kind of woman

[aided_]

yeah but
that doesn't
omg
what if my specific type of woman was just taller than me
I don't know if i think thats an unrealistic standard

[Lionman95]

Because a lot of guys actually have high standards and are not aware of it or are not ready to admit that.
Other guys can´t think of anything else then sex and shouldn´t be dateable therefore.

[Anonymous]

Anyone, male or female, should have the highest standards they can get away with while still finding people to date. If someone's standards are too high they won't have dating success. If they have dating success then their standards are not too high, by definition.

[slatyb]

For the same reason that some men say the same about women -- they are unable to find a partner so they blame it on others instead of doing the work to make themselves more attractive.

[DarkWinterNights]

I don’t know, but have you seen female dating profiles? So many make the mistake of posting a checklist (usually superficial) that every man has to match and explaining absolutely nothing about themselves.

[spartan55]

I think some people of both genders have that issue. Not gender specific to me.

[SmokyOne]

I think the potential difference I've seen is that men's standards for getting laid tend to be pretty low while keeping higher standards for relationships. Which I'm sure from the outside looking in must be maddening to witness 🤣

[RationalMale]

Women only really see a small percent of men. The 80/20 rule. That top 20% absolutely has higher standards than the rabble of most men.

[douride2]

Not any more so then the unrealistic standards a lot of men have.

[Asker]

Men dont have unrealistic standards. Big fat myth

[douride2]

Then why are you hiding?

[Asker]

What does that have to do with anything?

[Yucy_Gluttony]

You may be surrounding yourself with the wrong people, because from my view they are a minority

[Asker]

The men that are picky? I agree they're the minority

[Yucy_Gluttony]

nice try

[Asker]

How? Im telling you that most men aren't that picky. You only think that way because high value men are picky. These are the men women want

[Yucy_Gluttony]

I never said I thought that way :/

[Asker]

But im telling you most men aren't picky. The bottom 80% of men aren't picky

[Yucy_Gluttony]

You don't have to tell me that, I know :)

[JSmuve]

Those women are just projecting their own insecurities. Based on how many women say they get flooded with hundreds of messages online, it should be clear that many men have very low standards.

[McKellar]

I agree. 1 girl told me that as well once when I was on my last date with her. The issue wasn't my standards for her were way too high,... the issue was to her... there's no feeling.

Then I thought "Whatever".

[Shamalien]

Unless the man is rich, I generally see less attractive women with more attractive men. I think women generally aim high and men generally aim low. All I want is an equal mate and I haven’t been able to find one

[Anonymous]

cause you’re talking about standards to have sex with, those are low or even nonexistent. the ones to “wife up” are significantly higher.

[Asker]

Don't be a hoe. And you'll be wifed up

[Babygirl_S]

Because most of them want blue-eyed natural blondes.

[Asker]

Correction: the high value men that women pay attention to have these oreferebves so you assume even the bottom 80% of men have these same preferences

[Asker]

Preferences*

[Babygirl_S]

Everyone wants a high value man/woman.

[Asker]

But one gender lives in reality and knows they likely won't get a high value person.

[monorprise]

Women and men both live in a environment with completely inaccurate and unrealistic view of the world around us due to where we get that information from media. All of which whether supposedly fact or fiction focuses upon the unusual rather than usual our brains are designed to process and work with.

Worse still as our families have gotten smaller and ourselves more isolated we have fewer and fewer people to help us find the truth. Both sides need a reality check and unfortunately the only way we are going to get it is from numbers and each other.

[sasquatch111]

Because they complain about how much they hate us for not being perfect almost constantly, especially online. It's enough to give any woman a complex. No one is perfect.

[Misterm93]

But on the flip side women do the exact same thing if not worse at some times. So wouldn't it be safe to say that women also have unrealistic standards to?

[Anonymous]

Yeah even most women will admit that men are pretty simple.

Be pleasant
Make food every now and then
Drain his balls
Stop talking once in a while

Simple

[Anonymous]

Because apparently nowadays keeping your legs closed and/or not siring unwanted offspring, and/or being faithful is now "impossible" these days
... Apparently

[Pohjolan]

I bet these are women who are not on any dating site/APP and are just wallflowering and then try to explain to themselves for why no one seems to be interested in them

[Paul09]

What do I know. I've been single for a very long time. I'm just so confused in the dating world. Seems like everytime I mention my job, oh in not attractive enough? Humans are so odd.

[bamesjond0069]

Its a shit test to see if you listen to their retarded concerns. Either 1. Ignore them, they are just stupid girls or 2. Have ridiculous high standards they complain about and more.

[Pixel343]

uhhhh, I had to bail a girl I just met out of jail--so we could go on a second date.
GIRLS are the ones with the high standards

[KlinkyCoder]

Well, yes.

The point is that actions tell more about people than words. And I think some perspective bias at play there too.

[myabe123]

Men who neg hot women. Some women take this to heart...

[Asker]

Only a small percentage of men bang these women and and they assume that all men are like that lol

[Echosoul]

Has pulse. About my age. Sufficiently attractive to me since I'm hardly going to date someone I have no attraction to.

[Anonymous]

We do. We want a woman who's loyal, faithful, and knows how to appreciate and take care of her man. That's completely unrealistic

[anylolone]

And then complain that men will fuck anything that moves.

[Biancam13]

I think they have low standards for hooking up and high standards for relationships.

[anylolone]

@Biancam13 But you expect that. Hooking up is less investment and less risky.
Ending up dating a psycho is way more risky than hooking up with one.
Gosh, hooking up with a psycho is less dangerous than being friends with a psycho.

But when it comes to the vast majority of men, those standards are mostly behavioral.
The vast majority of men will date a woman with average appearance.

[Anonymous]

Hey you can’t make a general statement about women! You can make one about men because all men are horrible but not women!

[Asker]

Lol estrogen levels here

[Opinion Owner]

Lol. That was my best first attempt at being a male feminist.

[chulo1992]

I don't know about that but what I do is that many women have unrealistic expectations

[Fion3il]

Op looking like a clown coming up with random numbers and saying all women are the same🤡
I would say most men probably don't have high standards by what I would think is considered high standards, but I can't speak for everyone.

[Asker]

You're a child. Move along kid

[RosegoldLorenzo]

I mean I see a lot of women complain about men having unrealistic expectations who then go on to say that the average dick size is 7 inches. Lol.

[dustybiker]

If it hits a nerve, maybe they are right?

[Anonymous]

Most men actually have unrealistic expectations from women

[Anonymous]

its women not men lol

most women are a waste of time

[Anonymous]

Lol! Most men don't even have any standards. They just want to boobies and pussy.

Yeah but I did notice women have unrealistic standards.

[Squaresquirrel]

If you tell me right now, okay I believe you.

[TheFlak38]

because they love to project themselves onto men.

[Anonymous]

A lot of men do. You read it all the time on here.

[Asker]

What if i told you that men rate women on a perfect bell curve while women rate 80% of men unattractive

[KrakenAttackin]

Gaslighting, pure and simple.

[Joker_]

most men do have unrealistic standards

[gabby100]

Some do...

[Asker]

Most don't

[gabby100]

Most guys are unrealistic when it comes to women. We are wired different..

[Asker]

Nah you think that because high value men have higher stabsards thus you assume all men are like that

[gabby100]

I learnt a long time ago guys and girls are all different. You cannot treat them the same..

[Asker]

If every woman is different why does the phras "know how to treat a woman" exist

[Anonymous]

Is cute and faithful unrealistic? I guess so.

[Anonymous]

They all want a model

[Asker]

You're only paying attention to the high value men that want that

[Ryfyle]

Seething land whale detected.