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The majority of women do prioritize how much money a man makes over all of his other qualities.
Especially the ones that claim they make their own money. Those ones insist that the man makes more than her. (when they say they don't they end up losing respect for him and cheating or leaving) If the woman makes more than the man she will belittle and insult him in front of others with little put down remarks. I have seen that happen to people IRL. And often the ones that do have a decent income, even if the man does make more, they see their money as their own spending money and the man's money is for the bills. Most women from what I have seen in my lifetime are selfish, greedy and hypocritical. That is why most women are so against prenuptial agreements. If they are against that then you know for sure she is interested in your money over all else. So treat those types of women accordingly as the true whores/prostitutes they are.
Once you make enough money though, women become very easy to replace because so many of them prioritize money over all else. that is why men that make $100k plus can easily treat women like crap and replace them frequently.
If she is okay with a prenuptial agreement (not pretending but then use it as an excuse to argue with and insult you) then you have someone that is actual LTR material.
For a woman I would say it's all about money at this point it's what I get told all the time and see it in real life always
No one is going to believe this and it doesn't matter but I prefer poor men. Poor in money but rich in integrity, drive and natural intelligence.
My ex husband was poor when I met him. Had degrees and was well educated. He handed out flyers on foot when he had no working papers as a new immigrant. He had worked in high finance in one of the worlds major money capital but left it for religious reasons.
We were a team and had a lot of other projects together. After a lot of toiling and many handouts from my relatives he ended up making six-figures after a total career path pivot.
He grew distant, dismissive neglectful and abusive. We parted. So give me a sweet, honest and loving poor man with work ethic over a rich guy any day.
@Anonymous I am so sorry that happened to you. You didn't deserve that at all. That man did you wrong. He was completely selfish and unappreciative. I swear, people like that make my blood boil.
@Jamie05rhs he is a human. He isn't perfect.. I don't hate him and a lotnof men cannot compare to him. But, the insecurity and emptiness within was too much for me to shoulder for him. I'm far from perfect also. It really really is a shame that our marriage fell apart. In our circle, we were a dtsr couple. I think envy had a part to play in it as well.
*star
What is "DTSR"?
@Jamie05rhs star
@Anonymous You just said that he was distant, dismissive, neglectful, and abusive.
And you told us that he became that way after "making it" and getting a good job with a lot of money.
That isn't a description of a good man. That isn't even a description of a good person.
May I repeat, "ABUSIVE.". (!!!)
@Jamie05rhs
what makes you so surprised at this? For some reason women like being abused.
I treat women with too much respect and dignity, which is exactly why they reject me. They'd rather hang out with guys who beat them up and treat them like whores.
@Jamie05rhs He was also generous, patient very intelligent and a great conversationalist. People are rarely all bad and never all good. He has issues and has poor coping mechanisms. I don't hold grudges.
@Anonymous I think you are being too generous. I think he's an absolute scumbag and a piece of shit.
But I'm glad you're free of him, at least.
@Jamie05rhs no, he isn't a scumbag or a piece of shit. He is a person with problems. I didn't want to shoulder them anymore. Also, he's my children's father and I get where you are coming from but I don't care for that comment.
Alright.
Not at all. My only concern is how much money I make. Thatās my responsibility.
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It's important to me. I'm not a gold digger who's looking for a millionaire but he has to be able to support my future child if I change my mind about having a child. I want a man that makes a decent amount of money but he doesn't necessarily have to make six figures.
I think earning money is easier than convincing a rich guy to spend his money on you because he will want something in return and your competing with other women who also want the same rich guy to spend money on her so earning his attention will be harder than earning your own money.
I couldn't give less than a shit what he makes or has. Pay for your own shit, I'll pay for mine, as it should be.
I wouldnāt say how much, I would say if heās financially stable. A man can make a ton of money and still spend it to the point where he has no means for a stable life together
Oooooo @kylee2437 is gettin hostile š šš½āāļøgotta runš
One of my main concerns is that he makes just enough to be able to provide for our future family while I'm not working, beyond that I don't care.
I also have a pretty successful career and I know money is not everything, but my primary concern is that my future children are taken care of. If that makes me a disgusting gold digger in some loser's eyes... then so be it :)
You said earlier that you were already engaged.
@Jamie05rhs I am :) So no longer looking but that's how I felt and still feel about this topic. And he agrees with me.
Okay; that's good.
Most women are not gold diggers in the true sense of the term. That is, most don't expect to marry a rich guy. But money is definitely important to most women, much more so than it is to men. Plenty of studies have shown that to be true and we see evidence of it all around us irl.
It's not the main concern, it's their only concern! You may look like Chumbucket but if you have deep pockets, all women are yours.
Sort of, yeah.
"In study after study, in country after country, psychologists consistently find that men strongly prefer looks over resources, whereas women value resources over looks."
https://ifstudies.org/blog/better-educated-women-still-prefer-higher-earning-husbands
u some might be, others will not...
personally, I have never been with a woman that has money as her main concern
and I prefer it that way
I don't think it's a main concern. I've dated girls for months before they actually knew how much I make. After a while they probably figured out if I'm financially stable, just by my lifestyle since we've been together. When I was in college I think they did go by my future earning capacity but they never complained about not going out every night or having to pick me up because I didn't have a car. I actually believe they liked me.
As long as he doesnāt depend on me to pay for all including himself, and he contributes to the household, we are good! Money is important in a relationship but it shouldnāt be top priority.
When I meet a girl, I deliberately play down what I do and what I earn, its normally easy to spot the kind of person only really into material wealth. from my experience though, maybe 10-15% only of girls put money at the top of their list, something like 50% aproximately, have wealth in there but not #1 on the list then the rest are more interested in making a real connection not at all based on my status
Not my main concern, but what girl doesn't like to be spoiled? 😍
Money would just be a perk. Personal connection and attraction is what really matters!
Sort of. What matters is that he can support himself, he has goals and ambition, his net worth is in the black and not the red (meaning he makes more than he spends).
No how much his wealth accumulates is though. You make $30k a year but his skills make it feel like a $100k can be a whole lot more attractive to certain people then the guy who makes $85k and skills push him to $95k.
Beauty in the beholder but remember āthe naked man fears no pick pocket for he has already lost his/her underwear.
I donāt care how much he makes but he must make enough to cover his own bills and shit. Pay his own rent or mortgage, bills etc. Iām not paying for someone elseās life. But no, a man doesnāt have to make a certain amount of money.
Drive around in a Lambo and a nice suit. Then drive around the next day in a Ford and jeans and a t-shirt. Talk to random women both days. Then you tell me.
Women will never admit it. Some may not even realise it. But money is a primary concern in dating.
Well yeah but that doesn't mean it's the only thing we care about. But yeah we want a guy who can provide for us and our family so money is very important. It has to be if we're being honest. That's just reality.
Yes and any girl who says no is lying. At least go for the girls who openly admit this and not someone who will cheat on you with a richer dude
Of course. The quantity of quality research to support that fact is overwhelming. Women have been saying, āOnly his personality matters!ā for eons, yet the statistics have indicated otherwise for as long as weāve been looking into these things.
Not me. I know girls who care a lot about how rich a guys family is.
Yup. Women donāt view relationships as partnerships, they view them as transactional engagements. You are only as good as your wallet is thick to a chick.
Looks can overcome this but you have to be top 1% genetically. Women are collectivist idiots so donāt listen to what they say; watch what they do.
As long as they can provide normally for themselves, i'm fine.
Depends on the woman.
As long as he can provide and protect, it wouldn't matter.
If she's materialistic or a gold digger, then yea big time
Nah cause I make my own 🥸
Can i have sum money? *holds out hand*
porn will make you the moneys š¤«
@Mgtow1990 you wanna try that again?
@Lyndsielee666 his username says all you need to know about him lol
@Lyndsielee666 I was just about too say why do you even partake in this foolery you know he's just a salty person walking š
@Mgtow1990 your first sentence made literally zero sense my guy. Like I said, you wanna try that againā¦ or?
@Mgtow1990 Iām sure most hate you as well š
@Mgtow1990 ah finally the truth for once
Manās said wonāt date like he had a fraction of a chance. Just gotta tell it like it is š
Iām a walking red flag get used to it š¤
@Lyndsielee666 well i like red so you're in luck ;)
Future cat female detected
@VaasMontenegro awe stay mad š
I quite like cat females actually
I ain't mad, just stating the obvious
@Still-alive yeah cause you're a simp
@VaasMontenegro youāre very incorrect bud. Try again
@VaasMontenegro be more original bro
You're a feminist so I'm very correct actually
@Still-alive have more self respect bro and stop being a Beta simp
@VaasMontenegro yawn š„±
@Still-alive lol such a wahman response
@VaasMontenegro dont you have some mgtow conference to attend or something?
Ahh makes sense Lmfaooooo
@Still-alive Nah I already had my Red pills for today
@VaasMontenegro oh good. Time for nappy time then
@Still-alive Gotta stay woke in this cucked soycietyš§
@VaasMontenegro but you guys hate being āwokeā though
@Still-alive I'm mean truly woke, not liberal woke.
@VaasMontenegro you are a red pill. You know nothing about nothing.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I know nothing about nothing? ššš
@VaasMontenegro from the interactions we had so far and the comments I see you give... no you don't.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 and you do with your soy knowledge?
@VaasMontenegro using expressions like soy knowledge is why you prove me right.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 right? He prefers relying on memes and buzzwords he got from fox news instead of thinking lol
@Still-alive I wish I could bring some sense into him. I really do know that red pill just takes lost people and makes them the worst version they can possibly be.
@Still-alive I don't watch Fox News but I don't think they use words like that but ok
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I have more sense than you will ever have and I'm way younger than you so you better take a step back, Beta cuck
@VaasMontenegro let me try to help you. Do you see the names you are calling me? Those are the same chewed up nonsense guys with no arguments say when they have nothing of substance to say. "Oh he is a cuck beta whatever so there is no point in listening to him".
No one, absolutely no one, will ever win any argument without listening to the opposition.
Radda
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 There is no need listening to you because you're a feminist anyway and you act on your weak emotions
@VaasMontenegro lol go run away then little one š
@VaasMontenegro who has weak emotions? The one that wants to talk and have an argument? Or the one who insults and runs away?
@Still-alive Run away from what?š¤
@VaasMontenegro you know what
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I don't insult, I just simply state the fact that you're a weak man who simps for his whore wife and stranger wahmen. Absolutely pathetic
@VaasMontenegro for example here... Why do you think all women want money more than anything?
@VaasMontenegro again, all emotions from your part. Don't you see all you do with that is coming up as angry and bitter to everyone reading?
You don't have a hold on your emotions.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 I can control my emotions just fine but you're definitely acting like you're the calm one here even tho you know deep inside your wifes a hoe
@VaasMontenegro you are the one pretending to be calm.
By the way, you didn't answer my previous question. Maybe you didn't see it, but I will ask again, why do you think all women want is money?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Because it's in their nature. Women don't love a man the way a man loves a woman.
@VaasMontenegro and you say that with what information?
Again "women's nature" and that belief that they don't love us like we do them is again a red pill chewed up speech.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 he's been listening to those mgtow demagogues. Typical
@Still-alive I know he has. Those have no good information at all. Nothing but broke men trying to scare off everyone else into being as miserable as they are. So at least they feel their feelings of anger validated.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Are you stalking my account and also it's the cold truth but you're married and keep lying to yourself because you can't handle the cold truth which doesn't surprise me a bitš¤·āāļø
@VaasMontenegro and I just made a mistake replying to you on the other post. My bad.
Still go ahead and answer my question. Where did you got that idea about women?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Because Mgtow/Red Pill mixed with my own experience. That's why Mgtow is the truthš
@VaasMontenegro what is your experience? Did anyone hurt you?
@VaasMontenegro and you shouldn't praise the words of random strangers on the internet.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Bro you're 100% a Redditor ššššš
@VaasMontenegro someone did right?
People do get hurt all the time by the opposite sex. Guys hurt girls, girls hurt guys. Happens daily. So what? Does that mean that we are all incapable of loving each other?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Reddit moment
@VaasMontenegro you are avoiding.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 No I'm not, you're just trying to appear "mature" by acting like you're a psychologist. Typical Redditor moment
@VaasMontenegro you don't want to answer that fine. Let's try to see it in a different way.
Why do you trust mgtow and red pills? Have you ever questioned them?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Bro why are you asking me? Just watch Mgtow content like on YouTube Like Sandman, Hammerhand, Better Bachelor or whatever. You act all "open minded" yet you probably never watched a REAL Mgtow/Red Pill channel (not grifters like Fresh and Fit etc.) and pretend like you're trying to understand Mgtow. If you're so interested in it, go watch it on YouTube smh
@VaasMontenegro I did. I was a red pill guy once. I was deep into it just like you are now.
But I grew out of it when I realized those guys have no truth to offer.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You're lying hard bro. Tell me where does Sandman live?
@VaasMontenegro no idea. But I can be honest here and say that he was the only guy on your list that I know and used to see. Also saw a lot of Dr Shaym and red pill coach.
I am still an MRA tho. Those have a genuine fight.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Dr shaym is normie Red pill, so is Coach Redpill. Maybe Better Bachelor is a bit as well but Guys like HammerHand, Sandman, Grey The ghost or Undead Chronic (even tho he is a bit cringey sometimes) are truly redpilled and don't only talk about wahmen. Tfm is as well but he got taken down and is on an another Platform now.
@VaasMontenegro Sandman I know well. He is very eloquent isn't he. Still makes a ton of statements with nothing but his opinion to back them up.
When you talked about women's nature, notice that you have nothing to show for it but their word?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Please don't act like you know Sandman now ššš
@VaasMontenegro you believe in what you want to believe. I really did listen to a lot of his video, the other two I mentioned as well as forums. I can tell you they only give out false information.
In this case science literally disagrees with them.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 and what videos did you watch from him?
@VaasMontenegro it was years ago. Don't remember the titles of the videos. This is be being honest I could just go to YouTube searching for them and lie to you saying I did remember the titles. I don't.
But once I woke up I know I disagred with everything he said. He said women acted a certain way when I knew for a fact they didn't. And even scientific papers disagred with him.
That's called making your own research. And thinking for yourself
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yeah you probably think that the government is your friend as well š
@VaasMontenegro do you want my political stance? People are greedy. Regardless if we have capitalism or socialism whoever is in power can and probably will be greedy and put the greed before the people.
Free markets are the best thing ever, but since corporations are run by people they will steal from you as much as they can also.
Anyone who believes the government is evil, but insurance companies are good is naive.
So out of the two I chose socialism. Not because I think the government is my friend but because at least in that system people have free healthcare, free education and better social support.
@VaasMontenegro but you think "female nature" is a thing. There is no such thing.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You're a socialist? Disgusting...
@VaasMontenegro I am.
So I am disgusting for wanting the earnings of the people's labour to go to the people and not to buy our bosses a new car?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 That's capitalism, not socialism
@VaasMontenegro in capitalism the money does not go to the people. The money goes to the big corporations. They leech out of the working force and sell that illusion that "we are not the government. We are regular people just like you". No they are not. They have the government by the balls and are responsible for the low wages and horrible life conditions.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 How can you be so stupid bro? That's socialism what you described therešš
@VaasMontenegro I literally talked about big corporations having all the power... and you call that socialism? You really don't know anything about this do you?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 imagine being your age and still being this foolish smh
@VaasMontenegro its fine at your age I didn't know much. You will grow. If you actually let go of your brainwashing
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 jajajajajaja
@VaasMontenegro what? Are choking? Do you need help?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "Are choking?" Are you having a stroke?
@VaasMontenegro you wrote an onomatopoeia for no reason. If anyone is having a stroke is not me.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "If anyone is having a stroke is not me." Another stroke we just witnessed here
@VaasMontenegro you didn't even understood what just happened did you?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Your grammar sucks ass
@VaasMontenegro clearly you didn't.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You're on copium right now
@VaasMontenegro this is just sad...
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 not as sad as your marriage
@VaasMontenegro that one genuinely made me laugh. No, it really did.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 because you know it's the truth lolz
@VaasMontenegro you knew you were wrong so went to attacking someoneās grammarš
I didn't attack his grammar, I just said his grammar sucks ass and also I'm not wrong. Imagine being this Beta and bluepill like that dude
@Lyndsielee666 he doesn't know he is wrong. That is the issue
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 typical for someone barely entering adulthood š
Says the one with dyed hair and cheap tattoosš
@VaasMontenegro oh no are you offended š„ŗ
@Still-alive your too cool for me too shush I'm not talking too you your a G. O. A. TšÆ
Ouch
Iām hurt
oh i muted this a long time ago haha. but thanks bro
Cut my wrists and black my eyes šµāš«
@Lyndsielee666 uh oh. better lay off them shrooms
@Lyndsielee666 u good
Oh Jesus guys itās a song
@Lyndsielee666 ur the best walking red flag
LMAOOO
Iām old okay. Hawthorn heights used to slap
@Lyndsielee666 hmu I'm bored
Your poor children, I feel bad for them
@VaasMontenegro oh theyāre perfectly fine and are definitely being raised better than your parents raised you š
The cope is realššš
@Lyndsielee666 YO THATS TOUGH
Lmao but probably true
@VaasMontenegro cry about it
I secretly wish i was raised by @Lyndsielee666 cause she plays video games with the kids lol
Cry about what?
Money can be the sole decider for getting women. You can be good, intelligent talented but can still get no one, with money you can be rotten and still can get women. Now it's not that all women run after money but the ones that do are very large in circulation.
For me, not having money isn't a deal breaker at all, but having it can be a bonus.
No just don't buy crap and then complain that you're broke.
@Jamie05rhs the economic situation is so bad that even supposedly cheap necessities such as housing and cars have their prices going through the roof (whether it be the product itself or the rent, insurance, gas bills, etc).
Not exactly. He could earn nothing and be independently wealthy. :)
What women want is security, less fear. Sometimes that desire gets confused with wanting *things* and things don't make you feel safe.
@tweety487 Effectively a widower who is still grieving.
Read between the lines on many of these answers and the truth becomes clear. Women are just saying, "What's his is ours. And what's mine is mine."
No it is all about what are his dreams and ambition! What is he passionate about!
Why do you expect people to give you honest answers? Most are going to be politically correct and say it doesn't matter
Financial security is what most of us are looking for. What is financial security to you vs someone else can widely vary.
All the gold doggers must be on the dating sites then.
If you want to date the highest quality women, you either going to need to HAVE a bunch of money or to show the POTENTIAL to earn a fair bit.
Women instinctually are self preservationist and want to be taken care of financially without doing the hard work.
I have my own career and make my own money and I won't date someone who doesn't have his own career or make his own money.
Wahmen want men to be traditional but yet they don't want to be traditional themselves
doesn't matter how much you make. They will still suck the life out of you.
Noo, i have way better things to worry about lol
women are basically
sex workers
the leech off a man for survival
Nopee, trust is the most important thing🙌
For sure
Itās all about the Benjaminās. 30k
Nope.
Cope
mm no...
Hell no!
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It should be if they wanna start a family.
Often it is their ONLY concern.
It's a principal concern
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