I mean I can’t speak for other men but a woman attempting to make me simp non stop in anticipation that I may or may not get laid is most definitely a turn off and I lose interest quicker than the longevity of a Middle Eastern ceasefire 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. I know I sound shallow and to be honest I most probably am, but isn’t everyone?
I have 2 minds on this. One side of me see's a girl playing too hard to get or is trying to make me chase starts to feel like a waste of time really fucking fast. Maybe it's because I don't like attention whores to begin with and that just seems like someone interested more in my attention than my attention and dick.
On the other hand, a total slut that just starts putting her hands down my pants and jerking me off when I just met her isn't going to get much more than attention while she keeps touching my penis... but I already see her as the village bicycle and everybody is probably getting a ride. I know I'm not special to begin with, so I immediately know I'm not the first or last "lucky guy" when a girl behaves like that.
The sweet spot is more in between the 2 extremes. The tension builds up organically and I get feedback of being just as wanted is important... she needs to chase back, or else I'm not going to bother... I can always just buy a hooker for $60 if I need to get off, so it's not a do or die situation for me.
I Have 0 experience when it comes to girls but i’d say if a girl wants to wait for kissing or sex, it’s fine to me. However, i want to be told that she wants to wait a bit more, and not just say “no”.
One can come off as not being interested, if you just take no action and say no. But telling the guy that you want to get to know him more, or at least making some effort for further plans is what would reassure me that the girl is also into me.
I don't know how other guys think, but maybe they were told “no” by girls without saying anything else along the lines of “i want to get to know you more before we kiss”, and that’s why they move on, since they think that the girl isn’t interested. however, if the girl says that and the guy still moves on, then you can confidently say he just wants sex.
Tbh i find sex on first and second dates pretty weird. How do people even do that? I can understand a quick kiss on the cheeks or a small one on the lips, but sex that fast? Maybe it’s the naive side in me speaking.
I'd say keeping sex away is okey. Keeping away affection is a no go.
@RiseofArtemis on the first date, affection in the form of holding hands or something similar is perfectly fine.
So…you just want to get into a woman’s pants and that is about your only goal. You’ve made that plenty clear that unless she “puts out” quickly, you’re going to move on and try the next. Am I getting this right? Well, why in the fuck would any woman want to date a guy like that?
It is abundantly clear you care not for her as a person and have some expectation that she needs to pleasure you with her body in order to be worthy of your company. Otherwise? You just move onto your next attempted sexual conquest.
You are exactly the type of guy I avoid. One track mind and no real value. Thank goodness for those girls that held out long enough from you that you moved on. They are the lucky ones from what I can tell. Grow up.
Woman may be interested by sex you know...
@Celtrabbit Thanks for the feedback. I’m aware women are interested in sex. I’m one of them. Clearly you didn’t read my opinion.
Not once did I state women don’t like sex. I do. I just prefer it when I have an emotional connection to my partner, not a one night stand or hookup.
I very much enjoy my intimacy with my fiancé. I just don’t care for guys that have only one goal like the asker, which is to get into a girl’s pants.
You can’t tell me that isn’t his goal by the way he has stated the question….
I've been too subtle I'll try louder : the question isn't about you.
I've never heard of this idea... but I hear of lots of ideas here on GAG that are called "common."
I think the only "value" of putting off having sex is that a woman KNOWS the man to a level of satisfaction: He's not 1. A serial killer 2. A player. 3. a deadbeat 4. a sex worker 5. has another woman, wife 6. has a serious mental illness: is angry, depressed, abusive, emotionally or physically.
I think those issues cover the "red-flag" bases and would be the reasons someone doesn't get sexually involved with someone too quickly...
@U4ea0 If someone displays a variety of deviant social behaviors, those are often considered psychopathologies. This doesn't mean someone is a serial killer, per se. Psychopathologies include clinical depression, manic depression, schizophrenia, narcissism, social anxiety and other dysfunctions. For people who present a normal range of behaviors, psychopathologies in other people become evident over time. Some are i mmediate. The homeless man who constantly and incessantly talks to himself or to some invisible person, is an example.
It's true, many people with deviant behaviors can mask them for long periods of time and if you don't know them under a variety of circumstances, you would never see their depression, mania or social anxiety.
The term "psychopath" isn't used anymore. It used to mean someone violent and insane and though there are violent and insane people, there exists more detailed descriptions of the manifestations and psychological labels of what they are experiencing and manifesting to others as per psychiatry.
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Wow you must have collected all the STIs if all you're looking for is shallow meaningless sex. I actually feel sorry for you that you've never made any connection with another human other than your cock being inserted in whichever person was your most recent one night stand.
Shame you don't understand that waiting is nothing to do with "simping" or whatever you losers call it. It's about filtering out emotionally void people like you who haven't developed basic interpersonal skills.
I applaud the girls that are careful to avoid guys like that. Seriously, messing around might seem like fun to you, but you aren’t the one who has to deal with the repercussions, now are you?
Honestly, I hope you don’t “get any” until your thinking matures.
So you are the type of man who puts the numbers up on how many men a woman sleeps with, only to tell her after the fact he was only hanging around until he had sex.
Next you’ll be saying you’ll only settle down with someone that has low numbers.
You make good men look bad, and make it harder for them to get sex. This is why some woman can get so defensive.
It is not a common misconception. Men will not marry a woman who puts out on the first three dates. If she puts out that easily, she has certainly slept with a bunch of other men. Such a woman is the most likely to screw around on her husband and run off with another man.
Men will date sluts. Men will sleep with sluts. But men will not marry a slut. And we won't marry a slut because we can't respect a slut. If you can't respect a slut, you can't love a slut. It really is that simple.
Putting it off until both are adults may be logical. Putting it off because you want him to chase you just seems stupid and if he realizes this he's gone quite fast. If you are attracted to him you should sleep with him but also talk with him what you want. A relationship or just meaningless hookups.
I don’t think women wait for sex until marriage. Only lucky women get married so young at age 22. I used to be innocent think you need date guy 10 years then marry then have sex. Now most women have baby first then marry. i think a guy would be using you for sex if you have sex first time then next day he’s gone disappears but it’s he’s still around many years and dating you then that means he loves you :) and not using you.
Yeah. Women haven't really found a good way around that fear, as a collective. They don't really seem to understand what men actually want, which is insane to me because I feel like we make it pretty obvious that they need to have more than sizzling good looks to keep us around.
One of my exes seemed absolutely dumbfounded when she discovered that I was interested in her hobbies
Depends on the man. If he is a nice guy that is a maybe! If he is a Chad or Tyrone type NOT IN A MILLION YEARS! these types will give up on you and go find another female that will put out. They will hump and dump her and move on to another female.
Chad, Rayray and Tyrone need to be executed for our societies sake and for the sake of healthy women's minds.
I don't like women who deprive both of us of a good thing because she's just so great and I should have to wait before basking in her almighty glory
We both want it, you're not a ho, let's just do it. I respect women who understand that concept
Most women want to feel loved, not just a pump and dump - so they hold off to weed out the obvious bad ones. Your post is just a confirmation that it works, at least to some extent. So thanks for that.
It doesn’t work with my cultural group because we are very liberal when it comes to sex, if anything I’m more likely to stay with a woman if she does what I like in the bedroom and never lets me down 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
Could’ve fooled me, you should see the avusive text messages and voice mails I get.
All you're doing is setting yourself up for future heartbreak when you find out after 3 months that's all he wanted. Which let's be honest, that's all guys want in the beginning, it's how we're wired. Guys will go to great lengths for pussy and if he does stay it's because he grew to like you over time. The sooner you sleep with them, the sooner you'll find out what kind of guy he is, instead of dragging him through the mud for months at a time and hoping he's not treating you like a princess just so he get in your pants. And if he is a "hit it and quit it" kind of guy, well at least you got to have some fun and not waste any more time with him
@ElementoP I disagree that sex is the initial interest guys have :)
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That is correct holding off sex is good. Holding off affection isn't. Every guy secretly loves to be hugged or be your big teddy bear you can snuggle with on the couch.
A girl who waits is less likely to be a hoe, and thus more likely to have wife material.
That said. No. Holding out won't increase your chances. A guy has decided whether or not he has any long term interest within the first couple hours of hanging out. Sex doesn't effect teh decision.
So instead of most guys who want to be with a girl because they genuinely like her, with sex being a bonus, you just see us as sex objects and get bored because we don't automatically hop on your dick.
Interesting
I do see you that way, of course I would’ve have worded it so coarsely myself, but neither the less you took the words from my thoughts.
Depends on the culture - in some cultures it's considered a truism, you wouldn't even debate it.
What those cultures generally find is that the men in those culture, either move or fetishise the women of different cultures, who are perceived as being more sexually liberal or sexually uninhibited.
It is typically a stupid move, that more often than not, is abandoned when reality kicks them hard in the teeth, but by then they have waste their prime years.
Just think of it as a training exercise
Instead of allowing them to attempt to turn you into a simp,
Which is what they've been brainswashed to do by the liberal media,
Focus your efforts on helping her discover her inner whore
Like they do in Russia. If all us guys do that then we can take back our society
So you want to create a dysfunctional society where hookups and mental health problems are common and even celebrated. Because that's what it is. Making everyone act like a whore should be shameful and people who think like that need to be punished.
That only works if all, or maybe most, women hold out. The rule of not having premarital sex was specifically made so that men would have a reason to take a wife in the first place. But unless there's a theocracy in place to enforce it, you can forget it
Well you probably don't want some woman that just bangs every guys they meet either. Once in a relationship, is one thing but I think most women don't want to be a casual lay either.
No.…. women believe the fact that holding off putting out weeds out the fuck boys that are really just looking for a quick lay.
If you want someone willing to spread their legs for anyone go find a hooker or a blow up doll.
How do you really feel?
@MikeInHawaii do I need to dumb down what I wrote so that you can understand?
That was heavy sarcasm. Did I need to explain that so a Dunning-Krueger Effect sufferer would understand?
I think it's more to make sure he actually wants to commit, rather than just have sex with you. Though, I have been told it's unattractive to be "desperate", so I have to make him work for it. I don't do that anyway, I'll just be a little disappointed if sex is all he cares about.
If it makes a person like you lose interest then it works as intended.
I don't use sex as a weapon, but I wasn't giving it away for free. When I refused to live with my husband unless we were married, he proposed.
So you basically forced him to propose to you
@SolitarySolace
How is that forcing, exactly? He has free will.
You said when I refused to live with my husband he proposed to me. So you basically forced him to either propose or hit the road
I just realized this question is very old. I don't know why it showed up. 😡
Doesn’t mean the question isn’t still relevant today
@SolitarySolace You didn't answer my question. How exactly was he, "forced," to propose? He could have found someone else with lower standards.
You said when I refused to live with my husband he proposed to me. So you basically forced him to either propose or hit the road. Someone else would have just done the same shit you did.
@SolitarySolace He had a choice.
And he’ll eventually learn that choice was wrong
@SolitarySolace I take it you don't get laid often/ever. If you did, those easy girls would be a dime a dozen. You wouldn't feel "forced" into commitment of there was another willing prospect.
I hope things get better for you.
I’m asexual I couldn’t give a fuck about getting laid
“I hope things get better for you”
No you don’t 🤣 that’s a typical thing women say to attempt to control the conversation via emotion
@SolitarySolace Have a good day
The day is over already 🤣 you’re really bad at this trying to be nice thing
@SolitarySolace 😂😂😂
Sorry, but fuck that ideaology, I'd rather wait.
If she wants to have sex early on before knowing everything about me, then I'm gone, I'm not interested in humping sluts.
If they follow "The Rules" then they probably do believe that. But generally, if she makes you wait for sex, then the sex isn't likely worth the wait.
I don't. I've my womanly needs too! Lmao. Then again, I don't wanna settle down myself.
Your comment will equal to single and lonely at some point.
@RiseofArtemis What do you mean
I guess it all depends on what calibre of woman you are looking for. All the best.
well to be fair, would you be attracted by a girl who just fucks you right on the first date?
Yes, he would.
Sorry, I have no idea why this thread showed up in my feed. I didn't realize it was so old.
I hope so, because in my case, that's definitely true ❤️
I personally won’t sleep with a man for a while into the relationship. I don’t want to sleep with just anyone, I’d rather it be with someone I know that I trust, love and have a future with. If he can’t wait until then then he’s not the one for me.
It also makes it easier to separate the man whores so I know to avoid them.
I didn’t have dex with my man until 8 months into our relationship
It does increase her Value as potential Wifey as she obviously has sound judgment…
It’s not a misconception. It’s a good strategy for filtering out shallow fuckboys like you and many men find it very respectable and will be more likely to commit. I’m one of em
Don't count the days, check the trust. A woman who don't trust you, will not open up about sex, with you. If she's insecure it goes the same.
Experience thought me.
We hold out to get rid of those who just want to fuck.
Hell no especially if they’re younger if we weren’t boning then I friendzone girls like that why would any guy wait for sex when there are literally billions of women on earth
People are different. I know many guys came my way, were not patient and left. But the one God made for me is still here
Women should make us work for it, but not too hard cause we both want it and we will get frustrated
Make a commitment, then you can stop bitching.
Considering the current hookup culture i find it funny lol. Especially putting an arbitrary time limit on it. Nah i will just find someone else.
Normal people don't.
Yes. Women are very excited about this one.
Definitely a turn off
Yeah that's what most women think and there wrong
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