You say “men” but you mean, I think, the father. Because legally they will have to support the child and mother financially and the father shares DNA with the baby. If the baby is 50% the father’s and 50% the mother’s, then why don’t they both have a say?
Well think of it like this because he want to have a say means he is trying to be responsible because he can’t afford and wants to stick around. He could your screw and leave..
yes you have to carry it for 9 months, but you can do it without the need or worry about having a job to support someone else.. where as you there is nothing majority external you have to rely on.. it’s a given..
Well I think maybe the guy should at least get opinion especially if it his but yeah it should be the woman choice and nobody's else. She is the one that gonna go through all the risks and other things that go with being pregnant. I do think there is limits to abortion I think it's okay if she has abortion for her health, incest/rape, and before the first trimester. I think after the first trimester abortion needs be the last resort but like I said it ultimately her choice.
If you don't want men to have to say in whether or not you keep it, then men should get to decide whether or not they pay child support. If it's entirely your decision, you should deal with the consequences.
I think a man should have equal rights to be honest , Abortion is murder , so if a girl wanted to abort a baby her and I made together and she didn’t want to keep it , I should have a right to say I want to keep it , I am not a murderer
Cuz it’s not that babies fault , I think she would be more traumatized knowing she murdered an innocent baby , I know a girl that was raped and got prego , she didn’t want to abort the baby so she put it up for adoption , they gave her a month to decide , she ended up keeping the baby and it looked just like the rapist , but it was the love of her life , her son is grown with grandchildren now and said it’s the best thing that ever happened to her life , so stories like that is crazy but beautiful at the same time
If i was raped, which i have been, if that resulted in pregnancy, especially if it was from a disgusting old man, i would abort it. Why? Because why in the world would i put myself through more trauma? Rape in itself is traumatic enough… now imagine a product of that rape…
Abortion, is not comparable to murder. How can you say abortion is murdering a “baby” but im pretty sure you support death penalty. Look, im not a libtard or Democrat. I am just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. Conservative-ABORTION IS RAPE!!! Also conservative-I SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY. See what i mean? Now, they are trying to pass a law in North Carolina where a woman who does receive an abortion, will get the death penalty. How is any of this pro life? Since when did an unborn fetus have more value than already alive human beings? What about the 400,000 kids in foster care? Do they not matter?
As long as it's their sperm that got her pregnant, she SHOULD have a say! But, ONLY if he intends to stay with her! If he was just a one night stand and he decides never sees her again, he has no say.
Nobody should have a say on abortion because it shouldn't be happening. It's nobody's choice. The baby's right to be born outweighs both the woman and the man's voice. Also if you're concerned about sparing someone from pain, getting dismembered in the womb probably hurts more than childbirth
I don't take people seriously, who act like they decide against others having abortions regardless of their arguments. They never made any sense and most of them were nothing but hostile anyway.
Its about genders having good morals on a certain issues, regardless of status, gender, wealth. Just cause you are women, and has actually has the baby, doesn't mean you are more morally right than a man that can't have babies.
Morals shouldn't be about what you can or can't do life, it should be about you have a good moral compass, towards others and animals.
No. It's a new body formed from both man and woman, and she can do whatever she wants with HER body, but not with the newly developing body. There needs to be rules on how abortion is allowed just like we need rules on capital punishment, prison, etc. It can't just be a free for all because too many women are ridiculously irresponsible. Unfortunately a few bad apples spoil the bunch, and we need to make rules or some women will continue to use abortion as if it's just another form of birth control. I don't care if it's women who make the rules for other women. We just need rules for this shit!
Well if most women were having abortions like a month out from giving birth then yeah that's crazy. It's just tough to determine what life is, where it starts and when it's worth preserving. It's a constant debate that I don't think will get agreed upon anytime soon because everyone can have wildly different views on the subject.
I'll give you another reason why "my body my choice" is a dumb argument. I'm a man and I have a peepee. If I decide to touch my peepee in public it's my choice, right? "My peepee, my choice! I can pleasure myself in public if I want to! How dare you try to control what I do with my body!" Do you see the problem? It becomes a problem when it AFFECTS OTHER PEOPLE. Abortion affects other people, not just the woman.
I think the only thing we disagree on is probably when personhood is assigned or how we assign it in the first place. Everything else I agree. I think their should be a line drawn as to when abortion is viable. I don't think women should be able to have an abortion whenever they want. I also agree that it affects both people emotionally and probably physically for the woman.
Without a make you can’t make a baby. Maybe cause they’re literally the father? If anyone thinks shouldn’t have a say, you shouldn’t be making babies then. Now if the father jumps and leaves just straight up jerk totally different story
Why do out of touch women get so much power to tell us how to live our lives even though they'd all die in a few days if we weren't doing all of the work in society for them?
They made it, too. But, welcome to the real world. What brothers me is the callus nature of which abortion is defended... Some don't even hide the fact that they are snubbing out a life out of convince... It's beyond selfishness.
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You say “men” but you mean, I think, the father. Because legally they will have to support the child and mother financially and the father shares DNA with the baby. If the baby is 50% the father’s and 50% the mother’s, then why don’t they both have a say?
Well think of it like this because he want to have a say means he is trying to be responsible because he can’t afford and wants to stick around. He could your screw and leave..
yes you have to carry it for 9 months, but you can do it without the need or worry about having a job to support someone else.. where as you there is nothing majority external you have to rely on.. it’s a given..
Well I think maybe the guy should at least get opinion especially if it his but yeah it should be the woman choice and nobody's else. She is the one that gonna go through all the risks and other things that go with being pregnant. I do think there is limits to abortion I think it's okay if she has abortion for her health, incest/rape, and before the first trimester. I think after the first trimester abortion needs be the last resort but like I said it ultimately her choice.
It's their child too.
If you don't want men to have to say in whether or not you keep it, then men should get to decide whether or not they pay child support. If it's entirely your decision, you should deal with the consequences.
It's half ours, and it comes out of our pocket if the little fucker is born
I think a man should have equal rights to be honest , Abortion is murder , so if a girl wanted to abort a baby her and I made together and she didn’t want to keep it , I should have a right to say I want to keep it , I am not a murderer
So even if a woman is raped, she should still consider her rapist and ruin her mental health for the fetus?
Ok, so if you fucked some random girl you met at a bar, and she wanted to abort you wouldn’t allow her to?😂
Nope she has to option of putting it up for adoption , she doesn’t need to murder a baby
Nope. When it is rape, it is considered traumatic on the woman. Why would she sacrifice her mental health, let alone, her body for a product of rape?…
Cuz it’s not that babies fault , I think she would be more traumatized knowing she murdered an innocent baby , I know a girl that was raped and got prego , she didn’t want to abort the baby so she put it up for adoption , they gave her a month to decide , she ended up keeping the baby and it looked just like the rapist , but it was the love of her life , her son is grown with grandchildren now and said it’s the best thing that ever happened to her life , so stories like that is crazy but beautiful at the same time
Sir, did you know that not everyone is the same way?…
Just because the girl you know, wanted it, doesn’t mean that other girls who get raped will do the same thing… you need to understand that lol.
If i was raped, which i have been, if that resulted in pregnancy, especially if it was from a disgusting old man, i would abort it. Why? Because why in the world would i put myself through more trauma? Rape in itself is traumatic enough… now imagine a product of that rape…
Abortion, is not comparable to murder. How can you say abortion is murdering a “baby” but im pretty sure you support death penalty. Look, im not a libtard or Democrat. I am just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. Conservative-ABORTION IS RAPE!!! Also conservative-I SUPPORT THE DEATH PENALTY. See what i mean? Now, they are trying to pass a law in North Carolina where a woman who does receive an abortion, will get the death penalty. How is any of this pro life? Since when did an unborn fetus have more value than already alive human beings? What about the 400,000 kids in foster care? Do they not matter?
Sorry, i meant to say how conservatives say abortion is murder yet they support death penalty
Idc if rape isn’t the babies fault. If my SA resulted in rape, it will be aborted.
Exactly my point😂😂😂😂
It seems to me that the men who "want a say" are the ones who want to raise their child and are not "forced" to pay child support.
As long as it's their sperm that got her pregnant, she SHOULD have a say! But, ONLY if he intends to stay with her! If he was just a one night stand and he decides never sees her again, he has no say.
Oh no! Not the sperm he produces enough of to make several babies a day!!! 😱
@NotTacocaT6969 Yeah, that stuff.
Nobody should have a say on abortion because it shouldn't be happening. It's nobody's choice. The baby's right to be born outweighs both the woman and the man's voice. Also if you're concerned about sparing someone from pain, getting dismembered in the womb probably hurts more than childbirth
Why should a man have any input in the decision about whether his unborn child should be murdered for the convenience of the mother?
Women don't get pregnant by themselves. They need a man. Hence, he gets the say in this matter.
It is selfish to say it is my body. Although it is your, but procreation reauired two people. Both have a say in this then.
I don't take people seriously, who act like they decide against others having abortions regardless of their arguments. They never made any sense and most of them were nothing but hostile anyway.
Both were equally responsible for her being pregnant that's why
agree with ben shapiro
https://www.youtube.com/embed/LfmA_ufFDCgIts about genders having good morals on a certain issues, regardless of status, gender, wealth. Just cause you are women, and has actually has the baby, doesn't mean you are more morally right than a man that can't have babies.
Morals shouldn't be about what you can or can't do life, it should be about you have a good moral compass, towards others and animals.
This question is very easy to answer. The answer is that murder should be illegal no matter who is harmed by making it illegal.
I don't think there is anything wrong with discussing it with your partner but ultimately it's her body so she can do what she wants in the end.
No. It's a new body formed from both man and woman, and she can do whatever she wants with HER body, but not with the newly developing body. There needs to be rules on how abortion is allowed just like we need rules on capital punishment, prison, etc. It can't just be a free for all because too many women are ridiculously irresponsible. Unfortunately a few bad apples spoil the bunch, and we need to make rules or some women will continue to use abortion as if it's just another form of birth control. I don't care if it's women who make the rules for other women. We just need rules for this shit!
Well if most women were having abortions like a month out from giving birth then yeah that's crazy. It's just tough to determine what life is, where it starts and when it's worth preserving. It's a constant debate that I don't think will get agreed upon anytime soon because everyone can have wildly different views on the subject.
I'll give you another reason why "my body my choice" is a dumb argument. I'm a man and I have a peepee. If I decide to touch my peepee in public it's my choice, right? "My peepee, my choice! I can pleasure myself in public if I want to! How dare you try to control what I do with my body!" Do you see the problem? It becomes a problem when it AFFECTS OTHER PEOPLE. Abortion affects other people, not just the woman.
I think the only thing we disagree on is probably when personhood is assigned or how we assign it in the first place. Everything else I agree. I think their should be a line drawn as to when abortion is viable. I don't think women should be able to have an abortion whenever they want. I also agree that it affects both people emotionally and probably physically for the woman.
Without a make you can’t make a baby. Maybe cause they’re literally the father? If anyone thinks shouldn’t have a say, you shouldn’t be making babies then. Now if the father jumps and leaves just straight up jerk totally different story
Well why would a woman thinks she has a say on rape if women aren't really the ones doing the raping? Only men should have a say on how to handle it.
Your thought processes is just way out there. Everyone should have a say on anything.
Why do out of touch women get so much power to tell us how to live our lives even though they'd all die in a few days if we weren't doing all of the work in society for them?
They made it, too. But, welcome to the real world. What brothers me is the callus nature of which abortion is defended... Some don't even hide the fact that they are snubbing out a life out of convince... It's beyond selfishness.