Why do some men objectify women, treat them poorly, claim those claims are ridicilous, that people oversensitive, then be overprotective there daught?

[WilliamPamer446]

problem here are potentially

and i said some men so dont get all triggered and over sensitive mens rights activists or anti feminists.

(1 denying women autonomy

(2 viewing women as the object of the relationship, not a subject

(3 treating women as though there opinions or thoughts dont matter

(4 only believing mistreatment occurs when its there daughter and over reacting to things, while under reacting to there own behavior towrads women.

(5 defining women by there relationship to them

[Anonymous]

There, I fixed your punctuation issues, misspellings and backwards parens for you.

Now, to your allegations...

1) denying women autonomy - How so? You mean abortion? Should we allow anyone the "autonomy" to take another human life for their own convenience?

2) viewing women as the object of the relationship, not a subject. - What does that even mean? And do you have any evidence that men do this any more than women do?

3) treating women as though their opinions or thoughts don't matter. - Again, do you have any evidence that men do this any more than women do? I would argue that society, including women, do this more to men today than the reverse.

4) only believing mistreatment occurs when its their daughter and over reacting to things, while under reacting to there own behavior towards women. - Fathers protect their children from harm as best they can, and that goes for both daughters and sons. Are you saying that's a bad thing? As a mother of a son myself, I can tell you that I will do everything I can to protect him from shitty women when he's old enough. Would you criticize men for that as well?

5) defining women by there relationship to them - Um, what? Seriously, what does this even mean? And AGAIN, what evidence to you have to suggest men do this more than women, whatever it is you're talking about.

Looking forward to your responses.

And by the way, it's obvious you're not a guy. Just sayin.

[WilliamPamer446]

Huh? I said "some men" and I did not send any allegations

and where did abortion come from?

you keep pivotting here

I am not saying its a bad thing to protect ur children but u can over do it and deny them autonomy, freedom, space from parent, and individual thinking

and by viewing them as an object not a subject, this can happen to anyone. what this means is, you are viewed by other people who dont consider your individual thinking and your status could be reduced to an object temporarily or for indefinite peirod of time. kinda like someone not being treated equal or valuable to others.

you missed what i meant and I don't know how to explain it i a way you understand. this is not about abortion, so dont pivot.

im not saying ALL men do ALL of these things, im asking why they woudl.

you missed the whole point of the over protective dad and brother and the hypocrisy. you missed the pont. im asking u to, for a moment, think of a girl as being beyond her dad , bro, boyfriend etc all men in her life. and you can't just treat soemone based on what they are to you there is a world beyond that. this wasn't saying, parents shouldn't protect there kids. and why would men be protective of there daughter if men were perfect and never did any of that stuff to women? what the hell are they bein "over protectic" of them from?

they cn do those above things to women and they y har a lot of guys sayin "i am over protectiv of mydaughter becaus i am a guy and i kow how i was" so those same guys tht say tht are basically saying they mistreat women them self which some guys arel ike that and if they didn't objectify women they wouldn't do tht

[WilliamPamer446]

an not here to just attack men. i have plenty of question tha come to the defense of men. i am a guy myself, i believe that young guys are being held back.

[WilliamPamer446]

i have autism and adhd and i think different so the points im trying to make you gotta look at them i am trying to take you out of individual people or genders and just view the situations at hand

[msmissydc]

So when I ask something similar the most common answers are:

• I hate feminism!
• We dont do that these are lies!
• Women want that.
• Andrew Tate said so and I am his worshiper.
• Bitch!
• Women actually do most of the hating, this is just defense.

[WilliamPamer446]

i hear u buddy

[Anonymous]

You're a female.

[Anonymous]

It is sooooooooo obvious you are a woman.