If alimoney and child support were abolished today, would women still marry (and divorce)?

[Unit1]

Like pushing for getting married.

Yes

Maybe

No

No. What's the point?

Other

[D_Bone_Steak]

The ones that get married for real reasons of love would still get married... for some reason... I don't understand why they would, but I suspect they would. I mean you can not cheat and not be married, or you can cheat when you're married... devotion doesn't need to be made legal.

But I think if walking away from a marriage with all the cash and prizes was made null and void... it would change how much shit relationships even get started.

1) Gold diggers would no longer see the point in the practice of marriage. It would simply cut them out like the cancer they are. This would result in them, in particular, not bothering to get married. Whores, after all, are still just whores... Gold diggers are just smarter whores that seek long-term enrichment by spreading their legs.

2) The choice in men would change. Jumping headfirst into a relationship just because he has money would no longer hold any real or legal long-term benefit. This would force women to be a lot more judgmental about men right from the start. I'm talking about all the things that might of been overlooked simply just because of the long-term benefits... that would be wiped out. Whores will still be whores, and they'd get paid for the quick benefits, but would they stick around through alcoholism, being abused in any way, or simply being treated like shit?

No... there would be no point in sticking around in a shit relationship because that end-game goal of cash and prizes is no longer there. If he's a shit man with a wandering eye that doesn't have her enjoying any time with him at all... why would she stay and coax a marriage with him if there is no cash and prizes now?

This would force women in general to really judge a man's character, more than just what she can get from the man.

Conclusion: Marriage would still happen, but it would be for different reasons than what we see in Hollywood movie star romances all the time. The reason to actually get married would be thought about a whole lot more. Popping kids with just anyone would be thought about a whole lot more. She would be WAY MORE likely to judge his character and his desire for having children and about their mutual companionship. Also...

If in a relationship, she'd be more likely to put effort into making it work. There would be no benefit in just quitting a relationship for no reason because there is no pot of gold. I'm looking at the women who have a string of guys they collect money from... like my own Mom...2 sisters and I, all different Dads, and she collected money from each Dad, as well as benefits from the state. She didn't work... would sleep all day and then party all night. She made her kid's house slaves who took care of themselves while she was hitting the bars and finding more guys. Only the wall put an end to her reign of terror. I have to ask myself... why would she have bothered doing what she did, if the consequences were not $600 payments tax free/month? I might of still happened because she really felt she needed to steal her sister's boyfriend and one up her even more by having his baby... and that baby was me. I probably would've still been treated like shit, but, the financial burden would have changed a lot of her options after that point. Something as stupid as just hating her sister would've been seen, learned from, and probably wouldn't of been repeated over and over.

Nope... spreading her legs for stupid reasons would've just been stupid. There would've been no payout for being stupid. No reward for stupid = not wanting more stupid. A vital lesson would've been learned.

Alas, it was never learned... only the wall stopped her and now she's alone with kids that hate her, and all she has is her cats.

[lightbulb27]

yes they aren't marrying for those things. But those things are part of security.

Their reality is, they make offspring that require a lot of resources and women don't want to suffer and have their offspring suffer. Thus, security is #1. The children do need protection from the poor decisions of the parents as well.

[Unit1]

And here I am having had almost none of it when I was younger.

[LazerBean]

We can tell, OP.

[lightbulb27]

@LazerBean To his credit, he is asking questions and trying to understand.

[LazerBean]

He's asking questions, but I'm not sure his opinions are not already firmly formed.

[Apple1996]

Those things are put in place for a reason. Often times women give up their careers while married and are the sole caretakers for the child so once they get divorced they need financial support from the man. If a man didn't want kids or a wife that sacrificed things then it'd be fine to take it away but I don't see a world where that would happen unless all women became childless and only worked towards their careers.

[Miah05]

Yes. Just would remove the ones that are up to no good.

But most women that get married do it for love.

[Unit1]

Yay!

[Drewtate]

Yes I believe they would be less likely to divorce if they weren't finacially rewarded for cheating. And divorced fathers wouldn't be alienated from their children by viscous ex wives who want to vilify their kid's and get maximum child support.

[inhua]

no. money is a large reason as to why women marry. 80% of men are deemed physically unattractive and women see their money as their only saving grace

women find 80% of men unattractive

[Unit1]

and 80% of men don't care for their appearance. Now that's a bold statement. Not all ugly has a cure.

[inhua]

well 80% of men can't look like Channing Tatum or Michael B Jordan no matter how hard they try

[TheSpaceGnome]

Alimony needs to be abolished, child support doesn't, but it needs to not be the man paying the woman, or the woman paying the man. The money should go directly to the child, and the primary custody parent shouldn't get to use even a single cent of it on themselves.

[TheSpaceGnome]

And no I don't think women would marry less, but I do think they would divorce a lot less, and marry for the wrong reasons a lot less.

[Anonymous]

Congrats, you win the dumb post of the day award.

Even worse, this moronic question has been trolled a million times on here already.

[Unit1]

not liking being exposed huh? that explains you being anon.

[lightbulb27]

Id like to hear more what you did experience and st what ages. That makes mire clear the path to repair the damage and progress forward.
Your wounds make you powerful… either to do more damage or when healed to do many times more good. This is the human condition. So you want to all the repair work! Yoi should probably talk to my wife more as she is agnostic and devises solutions. The way i know to heal the human heart is Christ and Gods love to fill in that which is broken.

[lightbulb27]

You are the victim of some prior emotional damage in your family… possibly coming out of several major wars. You now are trying to sort out life, your own desires for woman (normal) but with inadequate and poor training as well as hurt from last relationship. Very hard job but fixable over time… but must think outside the box since you lack perspective.

[lightbulb27]

What yoi should have had was teo parents supporting you as you develop and face challenges of life. Sotting together at dinner… didcussing, and support and encouragement when needed. Correction and guidance when needed. Then you navigate complexities and come out in good place. You are smart enough to be highly successful. you'll have to learn how to do things right and develop social skills that may be fear and shame rigjt noe but turns to confidence and empathy.

[artgorgeous]

They would marry and become more obedient and respectful to men. And overall marriages would be more stable and rate of divorce would become lower. Women have to many options available nowadays.

[boggboss]

Yeah I would say they would most women dream about getting married because thats what's sold to many young girls as the hight of love

[LazerBean]

Yes, and men would start initiating divorce at higher rates.

[DextroShade]

Yes because these things didn't exist for most of human history and most women got married. It would best if they were abolished or at least severely restricted to very specific circumstances.

[Drumlin2001]

They'd still marry, just wouldn't divorce and would drag relationships out. Gold digger gunna dig

[Snakeyes7]

It will decrease sure but those who will take the marriage more seriously will feel more comfortable to take part of it.

[Pete671]

Women wouldn't marry if they could not cash in after a few years,,,

[Anonymous]

What's your problem with child support? Alimoney is complete and utter bullshit. Child support is not.

[Unit1]

Some mothers sack it in for themselves. As it was the case for me.

[Opinion Owner]

Fair point. The mother should have to show receipts to prove the money is going to the child if the father requests.

[Unit1]

Ineffective. Give the child their own bank account. Doesn't stop coercing the kid to give its money to its mother however.

[Guido]

Probably still marry but maybe not so quick to get divorced.

[Anonymous]

Probably. Not worth getting trapped with a coward who will run away in the end.

[OlderAndWiser]

Why should child support be abolished?

[Apple1996]

Because men are greedy and would rather watch their kid suffer then help support them

[OlderAndWiser]

@Apple1996. I’ll argue in favor of child support all day long!

[Apple1996]

Same it's important for the child but a lot of men don't get that

[OlderAndWiser]

Yeah, they think it’s a reward for the ex wife, as if raising children is a profitable enterprise!

[Unit1]

We had "child support" money but I saw almost none of it.

[OlderAndWiser]

Then maybe the problem was your mother and not the concept of child support. Or maybe your mother didn’t show you the money before she paid the rent, paid for the groceries, or bought clothes for you. Most kids don’t see the money their parents spend.

[Unit1]

Or she sacked it in and brought me where I wish I never were.

[Apple1996]

Most women are banking on child support. They use it on the kids

[OlderAndWiser]

I’m sorry that your mother failed you, but most moms are not like that.

[Simslover92]

Yes I definitely would.

[LiamJHayden]

Yes, but probably in smaller numbers.