What are your thoughts on women who demand an expensive first date?

[chris_987]

[noemiii]

If they can, that’s fine. There are a lot of men who can afford an expensive first date and that’s probably what they’re used to.

[chris_987]

But relationships used to develop faster when it's was all about personality instead of how much money the guy has

[noemiii]

Men don’t take women on dates they don’t find physically attractive so, it wasn’t about personality on the other side either.
A first date is usually the most superficial time. Neither person knows eachother and while the woman might be requesting an expensive restaurant to eat at, the guy probably wants to bang her after.

[chris_987]

But if you're requesting a expensive restaurant to meet up then that just makes the girl an expensive prostitute.

Your able to sleep with a guy quick shouldn't be based on how expensive the date is. Cause if you want to sleep with a guy the first night you're gonna do that regardless of where he takes you.

[noemiii]

First of all, there’s no difference between requesting to eat at Cheesecake Factory or requesting to eat at Nobu besides price. “Expensive prostitute” is a laugh considering that you only say that because it’s out of your price range. Requesting a restaurant is requesting a restaurant. What about if the guy offers to take her to an expensive restaurant? I’ve had guys take me to nice restaurants of their choosing.
Why would a man who makes a good amount of money eat at a cheap restaurant in the first place? You really think a wealthy man is going to want to go or even take his date to AppleBees? No, he is not. You sir are revealing your financial status with this pushback, I hope you know.
Men spend higher amounts of money for women they deem more valuable, or women they want to sleep with in hopes that she will reciprocate. Most women do NOT go on dates with the thought of sleeping with the man at the end of the night, but most men DO.

[chris_987]

Well I disagree with everything that you said but that's life I guess.

[noemiii]

You can disagree but this is the fact. If you don’t like women requesting expensive places to eat, well date more in your financial capability. Beggars can’t be choosers.

[chris_987]

Then they end up with cheaters because there not concerned about the guys character. And a guy paying for an expensive dinner doesn't determine if he's a good guy. So there is not point to have that as a standard. But girls are free to do whatever they want I'm just giving my opinion.

[noemiii]

Funny you describe this woman’s personality. What would you rather the gold digger be with you instead? You do realize what you’re saying right? 😂 all women don’t request expensive dates and some don’t even care about your financial situation, they’re just not the women YOU find attractive.

[chris_987]

But beautiful is beautiful, if you a gorgeous girl but most men's standards and you don't care about expensive dinners then you ruin it for the girls with high standard because there beauty is there only bargaining chip

[noemiii]

Not true. There are plenty of beautiful women in society who aren’t superficial. They don’t ruin it for any superficial woman whatsoever. And the fact is, a lot of these superficial shitty men prefer superficial shitty women.
Now, even if you take the shallowness away from the woman who is beautiful and humble, of course she’s still deserving of an attractive partner and more than likely she’s still going to request that.

[chris_987]

I disagree. I think there are more superficial in shallow women now that social media has taken off. I would say a woman's self-worth comes from how much attention she gets so if her DMs are full and she has thousands of guys as an option she will demand that. Only rich tall guys talk to her. Again, it's just my opinion. I have no proof that that's actually happen. So who knows.

[noemiii]

Shallow doesn’t mean attractive though. There are plenty of people who are shallow and AREN’T attractive what I’m referring to though is physically attractive women. There are a lot of superficial women because to be superficial is to be judged heavily on physical appearance and that’s why so many superficial women present as attractive because they put a lot of time and effort into their looks.
A woman’s self worth does not come from a man, either. If that was the case, a man’s self worth is only determined by his finances. It’s age old and dated. Self worth is determined by SELF. That’s why the most confident people on earth have spent a significant time alone.

[chris_987]

I would say a man's confidence comes from his accomplishments and a woman's self-worth comes from men. Because women don't approach men so they have to judge their appearance on how many men give them attention. A woman that doesn't get attention from men is very self-conscious about her appearance
But that's just my belief and it really doesn't mean much.

[noemiii]

First of all, to think that is incorrect. I consider myself a very confident strong willed person and I don’t move on the validation of men whatsoever. Most women I do know who move on the validation of men are the ones the most insecure because they’re constantly in a limbo of competing with other women, feeling inadequate etc. you can not be confident if you are competing with another person.
“A woman who doesn’t get attention from men is very self-conscious” lol, says who? You’re quite ridiculous and one dimensional. Really have nothing else to say to this ignorance.

[chele_bell]

It really comes down to values. If you don’t want someone who values expensive things in a relationship, don’t entertain that girl. Personally, I would never “demand” an expensive date. If a guy wants to treat you to a nice dinner or some jewelry that is his choice to do with his money. But I would never expect him to spend too much money on me. I think that the most important this is effort. If the date shows that the guy cares about spending time with you and wants to get to know you more then I see it as a win! I do expect that a man pays for the first date because I consider myself more traditional, but a lot of women are fine with splitting the bill. My main piece of advice is this: a woman who actually likes you won’t care about how much money you spend, they will be glad just to spend time with you.
But if you are on a date with someone and you realize that money is more important to them than it is to you, I recommend you find someone who shares your values so you can be happy. Best of luck❤️