Why is telling a woman that she is a good homemaker an insult?

[Vegasrunner]

[Anonymous]

Are you trying to get her to be a homemaker? Because why are you telling me that
Hope it wasn't at work or a educational institution...

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous How is that an answer to the question asked?

[Opinion Owner]

Because that's probably what she's thinking in her head...
Is she a mommy or are you telling an unmarried woman this?
We're more than homemakers
That's why it's an insult

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Not sure what you're talking about. Who is "she"?

[Opinion Owner]

A woman

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Unfortunately it sounds like you're adding a bunch of things never said. No one mentioned anything about limiting anyone. Try to read the question and provide an answer based on the question asked.

[Opinion Owner]

You asked, why is telling a woman she's a good homemaker an insult?
Because words can have certain stigmas or connotations attached to them : Women and homemaker
You're not thinking about women's history when you're telling them,
I am.
It's an insult to certain types of women.
Now, if you want to stay in the echo chamber with women who agree with your motivated stance, that's fine.
You wouldn't be asking this question if you agreed that it's an insult.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner So you're making the argument that woman are insecure for receiving compliments?

[Opinion Owner]

It's not a compliment if you don't want to be a homemaker
She doesn't have to be insecure
That's just her response to something she doesn't like to hear or care about
If anything, it's a backhanded compliment, and not a lot of people appreciate those

[Opinion Owner]

Be or be seen as a homemaker*

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Lol, that's like saying if I say you're good at math it's an insult if you're not a mathematician. If she's randomly taking offense to a compliment then it would be her own insecurities doing so. A "backhanded" compliment if there's an underlined insult. "That sweater looks good on fatter girls like you" "You look good for a woman so old" There is nothing Inherently wrong w/ being a homemake desite how the receiver feels about it.

[Opinion Owner]

You don't get to decide if it's a backhanded compliment, it's up to the receiver
& to add salt to injury
You're a male, so your view is male centric anyway. Women didn't have a choice whether they wanted to be a homemaker or not
That's the only thing they were permitted to do
Women had to be good homemakers to survive their husbands and be in good social standings.

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner It's actually up to the deliverer at least by law. If I walk up to someone and say "you look extremely attractive" that can't sue simply because they are ugly. Your point makes even less since based on your last statement. If women had to be homemakers to be in "good" social standings (irony) then calling one a good homemaker is by definition a compliment.

[Opinion Owner]

Again it wasn't a choice
That's how they survived
It's like telling a black person he's a good slave

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner By definition it would be the complete opposite as the word "slave" has a negative connotation. Homemaker does not. Your argument is flawed because your attempting to equate how a woman feels about something as a truth. Her feelings aren't relevant to the statement, especially considering women's feelings fluctuate daily.

[Opinion Owner]

Why did you ask this question if a woman's feelings are not involved
I did not say homemaker alone was a negative connotation
I said with CERTAIN women it is.
If you call someone a slave in bdsm terms-that's not a bad connotation either
The context and who you're talking to are the reasons why it can be CONSIDERED an insult.
You can insult someone unintentionally, it's still an insult
Since you continue to battle me with your reasons on why it's not an insult, I believe you already chose your stance on this subject and only wanted other women to back it up.
So, you're free to insult more ladies, idc
Gn

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Great question. Please don't be embarrassed you don't know. I can't speak to the first part because it's you who randomly attribute someone's hypothetical feelings to a straightforward statement. You are doing it again adding "the with some women" comment. Perhaps these things could be true but none of this was implied much less said in the original statement. You specifically referred to calling a black person a slave and did not reference BDSM in your comment. My response unlike yours was based on the information provided. It's not really a battle as you don't have a relevant point, your argument is essentially anything that makes someone feel bad can be considered an insult. This is factually untrue, and it is this premise which makes your statement seem ludicrous. I recognize that as a woman your POV isn't challenged by men often, so you're a bit frustrated, but if you're going to contribute to a debate you need to focus on facts vs how you feel. GL to you.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok you're trolling
You could of Googled this crap if you wanted a straight forward answer
Hypothetical feelings 😆😆😆 it has to include all women like all women have the same mind 😆😆😆
Why are men so stupid?

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner Perhaps you don't know how Google works, but that's not anything to be embarrassed about either, I guess everyone doesn't know. Yes the person is hypothetical, and yoy introduces feelings into the equation. I don't know about same mine but most women are pretty similar, you have kind of shown that with your response to this question.

[Opinion Owner]

Crazy how your question pulled up 1st on Google
Right under the explanation 👌

[Opinion Owner]

Wish I could send the screenshot to rub it in your face

[Vegasrunner]

@Opinion Owner So are you saying you don't know how Google works. in my opinion part of your confusion is your spending your time attempting to frame your beliefs into someone else's motive. The question on its basis is straightforward. "Why would telling a woman she's a good homemaker be considered an insult" Nowhere in that question does it mention anything about how a woman feels about being a homemaker. If you don't believe it's an insult then there's no need to answer. If you do believe it's an insult then the question to ask to provide a specific reason. Saying "she feels like it doesn't provide a reason why" For instance when you provided your black slave anology, I provided a tangible reason why this was false. W/ that said I understand a lot of women especially younger woman struggle with this because women have this odd belief that how they feel about something is enough to justify right or wrong. Hope this helps.

[WonderingManII]

It might be for a feminist.

[Wuai201]

I don't know I've been telling him that for the past 4 hours
He's not getting it

[Vegasrunner]

@wonderingmanii The question explicitly ask Why. Making the hypothetical assumption is completely irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

It's not an insult, why would it be?

[Sharkshe]

I don't think it's an insult..

[bunniesrcute]

bc we’re more than homemakers

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute Hows that relevant?

[bunniesrcute]

ok so if u were becoming a doctor, studying for years just to be told you’d make a good mechanic? wouldn't u feel a little worthless?

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute Lol, no, but I think that's because I have the benifit of being able to think logically. Two things can be true, and the world isn't a zero sum game, simply because I'm becoming a doctor doesn't mean I can't also be a good mechanic. Conversely being a good mechanic in no way mehatively impacts my ability to be a competent Dr. However people who think emotionally unfortunately attribute everything back to themselves, just because a woman is a good homemaker in no way means she can't be good at something else. That was never introduced in the question and is low IQ behavior, in my opinion.

[bunniesrcute]

also bc thats what women only were back in the day, so its not the same feeling.

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute You're asking the author to take into account the feelings of a hypothetical person he doesn't know? That's not logical. Simply taking the question at fave value and removing your feelings would allow for a better response. Also women weren't "only homemakers back in the day and never within your lifetime so that's an inaccurate feeling to attribute.

[bunniesrcute]

but they were. thats all they were good for according to men.

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute That's not relevant to the question asked. You're taking something never said and are pretending it's part of the question. That's dishonest.

[bunniesrcute]

but it is💀 thats part of why women dont like being told they make good homemakers bc thats what women were only good as back in the day according to men.

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute You're attributing your personal feelings to something that wasn't said, that's like me making the claim that you are disagreeing w/ me because I'm black and some people are racist against black people. It's a random point only introduced by you.

[bunniesrcute]

its literally not tho? im telling u why women dont like getting told they’d be good homemakers

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute False you're telling me why you don't want to be called a good homemaker. That's not the question that was asked.

[bunniesrcute]

omfg🤦‍♀️

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute No that's just your emotional reaction to realizing you're wrong. No one outside of you made the claim you're retarded but like most women you need to feel right so you're continuing an argument in bad faith. No where in the original question does it say how women were precived in history, however you've included it in your argument even after being told by the author of the post that you are wrong.

[bunniesrcute]

dude what? i answered ur question and now u say im wrong? why do YOU think women dont like being told they’d make a good homemaker?

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute You answered a question, but not mine. I don't have any evidence that tells me women don't like being told they're a good homemaker because I've never heard a woman complain about being told she's good at something,

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute that falls under Emotion in the hierarchy of female arguments. When they can't articulate a point the resort to juvenile insults, this is way many women are seen as equivalent to children.

[bunniesrcute]

so answering a question is emotion now? what is the RIGHT answer to ur question if my answer was so wrong and emotional?

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute Answering a question nit asked is emotional. You read a question and just added in what you wanted so you could say what you felt like saying. I'm a man there is no "right" answer my job is to take in all RELEVANT info and then make a decision. Once you provide relevant info I will. Hope this helps.

[bunniesrcute]

you asked : why dont women like this?
i answered : because of history…

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute Now I understand your confusion. I asked "why is telling a woman she's a good homemaker considered an insult" Never asked for anyone's feelings, this is why you should learn to read the question completely then think v4 emotionally responding. Just do better next time.

[bunniesrcute]

omfg🤦‍♀️ dude i give up. men r hopeless.

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute TBH it's your ego and lack of respect for men causing the issue. I wrote the post and your arguing with me about the meaning. That's insane right there. Add in the fact that the author has told you point blank that your interpretation is incorrect, and instead of accepting the truth and formulating an argument relevant to the question, your insecurities and ego are forcing you to continue to be wrong. Grow up. If you want to have a civilized conversation you need to look at the actual info, not just make up something and then blab about what you think something means.

[bunniesrcute]

yeah bye, ur hopeless.

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute You're not hopeless just immature

[bunniesrcute]

my god🤦‍♀️

[Vegasrunner]

@bunniesrcute I would go that far but yes, I am pretty influential.

[SweetDripp]

It's not.

[Vegasrunner]

@SweetDripp Then why would telling a man he gets a lot of women be seen as an insult?

[SweetDripp]

Already answered... I'm not sure how to explain it any clearer.

[Vegasrunner]

@SweetDripp OK, so you're doing the best you can with limited knowledge that's fair.