Why is being a housewife looked down upon?

[Anonymous]

For example, I am commencing a Master's program, but I do want to work part time when I finish my degree so I can focus on building a warm environment for my husband when I am to be wed.

1. I want to have time to cook/bake and clean for him until he gets home

2. I want to take care of myself to look aesthetically pleasing for him

3. I want to stay home a bit more to take care of our kids as I do not want them to be latchkey children

4. I want him to be the head of the household and run everything by him. Although I want him to be the final decision-maker, I do want my contention heard as well. I trust him to make levelheaded decisions.

Why is this sort of behavior viewed as heteroclitic/anomalous today and further looked down upon especially by feminists?

[Teancum]

Because certain people feel they have to upend traditional gender norms in the name of faux equality. The people who typically look down on your decision are "central planners." They think the economy, cultural, government, everything can and should be managed.

Your choice to want to do those things is a systemic threat to their Marxism.

I don't want to get all "political" but if that is what makes you happy then screw them and what they think. You're not harming anyone and you just may create an environment that supports the man you love so he will want to work harder so he can succeed and better provide for you and your children.

I think working part time is a great idea for whoever wants to be the homemaker mostly so they can have a change of scenery and some extra money without placing all of the emotional responsibility on the one working.

As long as you're not harming others then do what makes you happy and ignore everyone who thinks they can manage your life better than you.

[vvn604]

"create an environment that supports the man you love so he will want to work harder so he can succeed and better provide for you and your children." - I think it's the most ideal way for a man to succeed. A man's success = family success = thriving civilization.

[electruxck]

umm... y exactly do u want to completely devote urself to ur husband? by ur points it seems like u wanna live for him... please dont do that to urself... live for urself... have some dreams, see urself alongside him doing ur part... instead of being behind him...
personally, i dont care if one is a working or a homemaker (u might wanna refer it as homemaker instead of housewife... it shows way more respect and important 😊)
however, for me, i'd definitely prefer a working female... not for money but simply because... it's awesome and... i dont know... i guess i would like my SO to b equivalent to me... equally strong, and independent 😊

[vvn604]

A man and a woman are equally strong and independent but in their own ways. Men are physically stronger than woman. Women can give birth but it cannot be said for the same for men.

[electruxck]

yea... but i wasn't even talking of that... its jst that devoting to someone completely without thinking for urself... is a bit overkill dont u think? 🙂 i do think i framed my answer wrong... i apologize for that 🙂

[vvn604]

There is something called unconditional love. It's a challenge, and that's the reason why genuine relationships are rare, but good things rarely come easy.

[electruxck]

yes.. i agree... that is a true relationship at least... but... i dont understand what has that to do with this... sorry didn't understand 🙁

[vvn604]

A genuine and lasting relationship is based on unconditional love. A man and woman would fulfill his and her duties according to gender-specific roles, things men and women are fully capable of doing solely because of their genders. For a woman, that is being a housewife. In order to fulfill this role properly, she would need to have the capacity to give her all to her family and ultimately her husband. The husband's "equal" task would be to provide and do physical things his wife cannot do. Everything in the new family they created is out of love for each other. It is pretty much a life for a life where they sacrifice for one another. The giving of one another in love.

[electruxck]

yea... but i still feel it is more of an older approach... i think these days the separation has been pretty slimmed down...
like a guy can help take care of child much better and the "physical" thing isn't really essential these days... nobody is hunting for food haha 🙂

[vvn604]

Society has changed. But it doesn't mean it's for the better. Life goes on, but it doesn't mean every aspect of life continues to improve. Some things, like relationships, are going backwards, which means, the quality of relationships have been deteriorating.

[electruxck]

relationships r same... but people r detoriating 🙁

[vvn604]

When people deteriorate the quality relationships go down with them.

[electruxck]

exactly

[vvn604]

But we don't want that. For those who continue strive for genuine relationships based on unconditional love are the winners in life. Why is this important? They are truly happy. And who doesn't want to be happy? Those who know what life is really all about will not think otherwise.

[electruxck]

yea... i dont mind what people do... but i m curious as to why 😅🙂

[vvn604]

To be happy.

[vvn604]

Giving people are happy people... in case that's news to you.

[electruxck]

ofcourse... but i get curious as to how that makes em feel happy... how... why... m probably nuts... but its so fascinating understand y people do what they do... happiness isn't the only reason i feel

[vvn604]

Maybe when you are older you might understand.

[electruxck]

maybe... hopefully... thanks for the chat nonetheless 🙂

[vvn604]

You're welcome.

[rachel99]

there's nothing wrong with it!! i think its looked down up because it such a normal standard people have been getting used to some people think they are stuck into it and have to do it. they think it's limiting to women and forcing them into the cult of domesticity. but there's nothing wrong w that if you prefer to be a house wife or stay at home mom!! it's just all about what ur comfortable with and what makes you happy! whoever decides to put their UGLY opinion on YOUR life should just be ignored!! also congrats on getting your masters and getting married!!

[BellePepper]

Because you're highly educated and instead of you valuing your own opinions and your own life you're tossing it at the feet of some guy who you're not even going to hold yourself equal to.

Like you're working HARD you've put in so much effort for yourself and you're just throwing it away and narrowing your life so you can always play second fiddle.

It's your life and your choices and I respect them but I feel bad for you OP

[Rachel_is_gay]

agree

[vvn604]

You value your own life by doing what makes you happy. Just because she highly valued her education at a certain time in her life doesn't mean it will stay that way forever. People grow and values change.

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 so then why pursue a Masters? Go to college for a year to become a seamstress or something equally stuck in the past.

[vvn604]

@Astoriana Housewives are still a thing of the present and will always be a part of a functional society. There is nothing degrading about it. Just because lots of women are doing something doesn't mean it's the best for them. Society tricks people. Often times we don't know a mistake has been made until it's been done.

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 sure, whatever, person who is obviously a man. If you're not going to use your education, don't take the spot of someone else who could.

[BellePepper]

@vvn604 The question still stands. Why would you spend $20,000 a term to maybe work part time and not even be considered a partner in your own home?

And THEN since you're only working part time you're not even earning enough to pay off your loan and you're not earning any benefits to offset all those years in school so why go at all?

[vvn604]

No. I am not a man. And who says a housewife can't use what she has learned from school? If that is what you man by 'using your education'. Education is a very broad term. I would presume an individual who has received the education she has had would be educated enough to not jump to conclusions so quickly. Being the most educated does not mean getting the most degrees or having the highest credentials.

[vvn604]

mean*

[BellePepper]

@vvn604 This is once again not answering the question :|

[Prettygurl12]

Why pursue an education you don't intend to use?
Why not desire to be an equal partner in your marriage?

Those are my questions. Mostly the education. You're spending thousands of dollars to get an education that you don't intend to use to its fullest potential. Why even bother?

[vvn604]

I pondeee that too. But then you realize society is not always right and life changes.

[vvn604]

pondered*

[Astoriana]

I spent over a hundred thousand dollars on my education. It was about 35K for my one-year Masters degree alone. Why would I waste that gift that I have been given by baking and changing poopy diapers all day?

[vvn604]

@Astoriana Imagine if no women in the world naked or changed babies' diapers.

[vvn604]

baked*

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 there would be a lot of stinky babies, because fuck if most men are going to step up and be active parents.

Also baking generally is not that good. Americans are too fat from added sugar as it is. Going grain free would surely help them.

[vvn604]

@Astoriana I agree. Baking is not very healthy because of all the added sugar and other ingredients that don't contribute to health at all. Perhaps the next generation of housewives can learn from this mistake made by the ones before them and improve on the baking technique for future generations.

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 unless they bake with sawdust and glue, person who is obviously a man, there is no way for them to improve upon the health of comfectionery.

[vvn604]

@Astoriana Healthy being is out there. Just require a bit of internet research and cookbooks.

[vvn604]

Healthy baking*

[vvn604]

requires*. Getting late. Gonna sleep

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 is that what housewives should waste their Masters degrees on? Research of the best cookbooks so that their poor little useless husbands can have a sweet treat every day until they give themselves diabetes from all the unnecessary sugar and sugar substitutes in their diet?

[vvn604]

@Astoriana the right man won't mind if you don't serve him treats.

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 the right man doesn't expect you to live to serve him, correct. The right man doesn't force you to behave like you are not a partner in his life but his employee. The right man doesn't expect you to waste your education wiping asses and cooking.

[vvn604]

@Astoriana You just have to find your match. That's the challenge.

[mattox]

@Astoriana if nobody was changing diapers, or taking an active role in children's lives we would have a Society of depressed, sociopath criminals attempting to fill a void with food, alcohol, prescription meds, sex and drugs. A country of degenerates with little to no regard for themselves or others, with no moral compass as they become more perverted and promiscuous...

[Astoriana]

@mattox white people are so wild

[mattox]

@Astoriana who are you to say what is a waste or not? Who gave you the right to determine what is an appropriate way to use their education. What do you have against men? This country was built off of the back of men. Get over it. If you weren't so busy hating on them and trying to be as unlikable and unattractive as possible youd realize that men will do anything to make their woman happy.

[SupMates]

@mattox You can drop the act. You're the same person as the asker or a dude. Maybe the asker is a dude as well.

[vvn604]

@SupMates Do you not have a mother?

[SupMates]

@vvn604 Yeah I do. She works as a Marketing Director

[vvn604]

@SupMates I can see the reason for your opposing views on housewives because you probably never experienced one.

[Astoriana]

@vvn604 mine is the sales manager of a dental supplier.

[IlyaTheImpaler]

This is probably very hard to comprehend for you guys but some people study purely because they want to gain more knowledge. A proper scientist is always driven by instinctive curiosity. Bose proposed a new theory of statistics, everyone laughed at him, they thought it's never gonna be used, it contradicts the simplest observable results. He sent the paper to a guy named Einstein, and unlike the plebs, Einstein studied it regardless of whether it's gonna be `used`. Together they predicted a new state of matter that was observed 80 years later. But housewives are not scientists! true, but it is actually impossible to conclude that because someone chose to be a housewife, her education was `unused`. That's just like the stupid kids complaining why they have to study derivative in high school when they are never gonna have to take derivative later in adult life. What you learned change who you are and it influences your children in a more subtle way than that. Plebs.

[Astoriana]

@IlyaTheImpaler lol big talk from a teenager

[IlyaTheImpaler]

@Astoriana Well, It is okay I am not surprised it takes some people a few more decades of life to realize the same thing I did in an afternoon flipping some pages of a history book. I understand my advantages :)

[Astoriana]

@IlyaTheImpaler so ignorant that you think yourself educated. How sophomoric.

[IlyaTheImpaler]

@Astoriana lol did you just learn that word `sophomoric`? I'm waiting another week for the next expletive you undoubtedly will learn through your ```life experience``` to hurl at me. I used to think educated people when they object another person they try to lead with a specific point, then the mudslinging, here it's just mudslinging. Now I think it is entirely possible that some people spent a lot of time in school but learned very little, you guys wasted more money on your education than the housewives themselves.
To conclude, I have to thank you all the for making my life easier, the housewives, for the family they look after, and the students who fell behind, for contributing to the lower half of the bell curve 😘

[Dale1982]

You'll have no problem getting a good man. Guys don't want slaves despite what feminists try to convince you. They want a happy household with a woman they love. We're made to work and do the heavy stuff thats why men go out to work and women stay home most of the time. Would you rather be in a warm house playing with the kids or out in the freezing rain digging a ditch for 10 hours a day soaked and your back aching. I know what id rather be doing. The work most women want isn't even proper work. I don't class sitting in an office staring at a screen work. Try laying and brushing tar in a road crew, logging out in the hills, under the bonnet of a car or truck up to your elbows in shit all day or lifting 100 pounds of scaffold on your shoulder and walking 100 feet with it every 4 or 5 minutes for a 12 hour shift. Thats work. The day women do the hard graft like us is the day I'll doff my cap to them and grab my apron and feather duster

[Z-Spark]

Because women who dont want ot be hosuewives find themselves lacking in the presence of someone like you who wants to be one and start a family, they find themselves at a disadvantage when a young, educated and attractive woman decides she can be a housewive and start a family and work, cause men won't pay any attention to them they will much more interested in you because you have much more value and what to offer.

Just like guys put down hot guys with great cars and a huge bank accounts, they simply have more to offer and that scares the competitors

[Z-Spark]

P. S: i know women who never got an eduaction, dont do house work, are not attractive and and have shitty behavior , and i know women who have a Phd, have a family, take care of their house and kids... nothing is impossible if you want to , no one is asking the woman to keep the house clean 24/7 and be a maid , sometimes even the guy wants to just chill and sit back with his wife without caring about house work... but cleaning and cooking 3-4 times a week should be doable, and the fact that you admit to wanting to be a housewive is proof that women in fact do want to be like that when they are left alone and not forced by feminists to act like men, its just normal behavior women want to be led , nothing wrong with that , but then again feminism , which is why the divorce rate stands at 60% of something like that.

[vvn604]

True. A lot of women are not capable of understanding that and complain rather than putting in the work to create the good life. Can't believe the downvotes for your comment. And a guy too. Seriously.

[Z-Spark]

@vvn604 yes one white knight and the jealous women, it always happens when someone tells it exactly the way it is they get downvoted, women these days think they can get away with not making any effort and just looking pretty... yeah not gonna work.

[Anonymous]

In addition to what bellepepper said, you're also assuming that your husband will be the perfect man and everything will go smoothly. You're relying on someone else and that never ends well for anyone. If you guys get divorced, you'll likely be left taking care of the children most of the time while having to work full time at a low-wage job, as you didn't ever prepare to take care of yourself.

[mattox]

Why would she have to take a low wage job? Seems to me she's covering her ass with an education.

[Astoriana]

@mattox because she would have no experience in said field. She would essentially have to be an intern at 45 with however many kids.

[kerthle]

Because it's not a basis for an equal relationship, you resign your identity to someone else. I object to this myself because I want a partner, not an employee. This day and age everybody needs to contribute to society optimally, that's not optimal. My SO and I both work, not full-time, but close, we still have a warm home, a home cooked meal every evening and a clean house

[Z-Spark]

you're a cuck brah we get it

[vvn604]

Men and women cannot be 'equal'. They are not the 'same'.

[kerthle]

Sure they can, being equal is very different than being the same

[kerthle]

Men and women should have equal opportunities but they shouldn't be forced to take the same

[Z-Spark]

they have equal opportunities most girls i know get paid for by their parents while most guys work to pay for themselves, much more girls than guys have cars and they go on vacations to Europe 2-3 times a year , thats how the average girl is like these days and i know plenty of them.

girls can choose to study anything they want but they usually for psychology, sociology, philosophy, gender studies and less common is law or something that has to do with little kids... these majors are useless literally you can't find a job and everyone knows yet you see girls jumping at these majors for some unknown reason, men on the other hand choose medicine, engineering, law and usually math related majors... a coincidence? maybe I don't know

my point is, we have equal opportunities but we still make different choices for one reason, we are different, women do not want to make the same choices feminists tell them to make.

[kerthle]

I read your comment differently, namely that you feel/think/know that men in fact have less opportunities, right?

[kerthle]

But to get back to the posters question. If all you want to do is create a warm home, how are you contributing in any way to the greater good of mankind? So 5 or 10 years down the road you get a divorce, seems to be the trend anyway, what are you left with if you haven't built up anything other than leeching his paycheck?

[Z-Spark]

Men have the same opportunties but at the same time are at a disadvantage, men are expected to work hard and get what they want and if they fail its their own problem, women have back up, the community, their friends, family they all support them mentally and materiallistcly.

we have the same path infront of us but women are driving an SUV while men have to settle for a donkey... thats how i view it, men get less support, and take someone like me for example , on the poor side and still have 2-3 years of college... i find myself losing to girls who didn't work as half as hard as me...

SO when i say i prefer women who cook and clean and want a family i actually take into consideration all that.

[kerthle]

Never experienced that, at work and at home I'm surrounded by men and women that work hard and get the credits they deserve (as far as I can tell)

[Z-Spark]

In short, wome have easier lifes so they should contribute something that men can't : cooking and cleaning.

men work hard and keep working hard after marriage so they should be excused

and while women hate the idea of a poor husband with shitty job, men couldnt care less how much money a woman makes.

[Z-Spark]

you're 34, trust me women in their twenties can't fry an egg

[kerthle]

Can't agree with that

[Z-Spark]

whether you agree or not does not change the facts, iam around women at college daily and most of them are spoiled and can't do anything, pretty useless

[kerthle]

Okay, I don't recognize what you said as facts, nothing in my experience correlates with anything you said

[Z-Spark]

you believe what you want to believe but just take into consideration that divorces are initiated by women who marry men with the same mentality as you

[kerthle]

Also that I most definitely don't recognize

[Z-Spark]

ofcourse, dummies dont recognize dummy behavior

[vvn604]

@Z-Spark Young adult women in their early 20s and those in their 30s are very different. Especially nowadays there's quite a bit of a generation gap within the span of 10 years. Keep in mind that a society with kids that have grown up in a family with both a full time mother and a father doing their respective duties is much more functional than those that have been brought up in single-parent family homes or homes where the mother has been neglectful by having a full time job outside of the house, which increases the likelihood of maladaptive behaviours (such as addictions, drugs, alcohol, homelessness, promiscuity) in kids who were not given enough attention because of both parents working.

[Joti_Harrison]

Your thinking is backwards. Who said housewives are slaves or even employees? Most housewives are happy to raise a wonderful home, be with their children and care for their loving husband. They should be celebrated, they are the ones who are raising our future generations. They are kinda like the underestimated jobs of teachers. I'd rather my kids raised by wife and me when I'm home with them, than in some nursery with some dumb person feeding them political propaganda at such a sensitive early age. They can hear all the liberal propaganda when they are in Uni and can think for themselves, not when they are young and vulnerable.

[Paul09]

When I grow up, I want to be a house wife. Like who would say that? I'm sorry, but I have a close friend, who's mom was a housewife. She basically did everything for him and his brother. Everything that he didn't know how to do any chores, we'll didn't want to do any chores. Now he's married and think his wife is a house wife. She works too. But when she gets home she does practically everything while he does what he wants. He even gets out of the house more to do things he loves. Basically he traded moms lol. So in my opinion, it turns men and kids into dependent on mom to do everything for them, while they do nothing for themselves or for their mom. Do house dad's exist?

[mattox]

I know two house dad's out of the 50+ parents I see every week, they are few and far between. And often the mother comes home and still has to take care of the household chores and kids nighttime routines.

You are generalizing... what you described is a parenting style not all stay at home mothers are enablers that coddle their children to be dependent on them.

[Paul09]

@mattox True, not every woman is that. But it's natural for mothers to nurture their kids. No matter their age. example : My mother till this day wants to do things for me buy me things. When I lived with my parents my mom always did a lot, too much for me.

[assley]

Because they're scared to be thought of as only good for those domestic things. I think everyone should appreciate the strengths and weaknesses of both genders and furthermore each person. If a woman is good at those "feminine" things let her be. If a guy wants to do "manly" things let him be. We all can't do all the things everyone else does. Extreme feminist forget women can make their own damn choices!

[Rachel_is_gay]

why go to university in the first place if you're not gonna get a job or use your degree? I'd understand if you have kids and have to stay home to look after them. But staying home just to cook and clean when you don't have to is just pretty pointless to me.

[Asker]

I said I want to work part time I assume you missed that.

[Teancum]

Maybe she also wants to be educated so she can bestow knowledge to her future children?

Mothers are often a child's first teacher. They are extremely important.

The condescension is remarkable.

[vvn604]

Men and women not being "equal" means that men and women are not the 'same'. This isn't equality in the mathematical sense. The same way relationships cannot be calculated using numbers. It doesn't make any sense to do so because it doesn't work. People are confusing mathematical equality with gender/relationships equality.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 and you're telling me that because? That has nothing to do with my opinion lol

[Rachel_is_gay]

@Teancum but getting a master degree just to teach your first grader kids is a waste of money and time. Why not get a job then? Why not using your degree and knowledge to get a high paid job while teaching your kids at the same time?

[vvn604]

Because you asked why go to university if you're not going to get a job or use your degree. Men are more likely to be required to do so than a woman in order to provide for their family. Women are not "required" especially since they have to give birth and look after the kids. Being a housewife is a 'FULL TIME JOB' that includes what you mentioned as "pointless" tasks - cooking and cleaning. Working in another full time job that is high paying would mean you would have to take time away from your primary full time job as a housewife where you are responsible for the lives of your children. In life you can't have everything.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 lol ok so let's say that that your SO is the only breadwiner... How are you gonna deal with the bills and your kids school fees plus college fees plus holidays plus expensive shit that they'll ask for?

[Rachel_is_gay]

How are you gonna cope if you guys suddenly get divorced? Nowadays everyone has to work

[vvn604]

At your age you should focus on your education first.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 lol you're trying to avoid talking about the main topic here

[vvn604]

No. I'm getting to the root of the problem because you are asking the wrong questions at the wrong time.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 lol im just being real here. Im just saying, choosing to be a housewife after years of chasing your dream and passion is total BS. Even my grandmother admits that.

[vvn604]

Just because your grandmother says something is right doesn't mean she is correct. Older does not equate to being wiser.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 lol i can make a poll right now and most people would agree with me on this

[vvn604]

Most people in this world are not intelligent. I've said what I've said. Good luck to you.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 good luck being being a housewife for the rest of your life with a master degree

[vvn604]

Two wrong assumptions. I am not a housewife nor do I have a masters degree. Proves you are not yet capable of humming logically and therefore need to focus on your education first to develop your mind. You are clearly not ready to face topics like this yet let alone relationships.

[vvn604]

thinking logically*

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 lol ok just saying. Is it too hard to take in people's opinions? It's your opinion doesn't mean that you're right and they're wrong.

[vvn604]

You will probably still live. But whether it's a great or mediocre life you will create for yourself is based on your decision making skills.

[Rachel_is_gay]

@vvn604 exactly

[Asker]

Well let me use my research experience to critique your methods: creating a poll here is not enough to generalize to all of society because you have a selection bias. True research should be properly randomized. You'd only receive results from people who spend their time on GAG, who may very well be discrepant from other people who do not devote time to this site.

[Joti_Harrison]

Housewives are one of the strongest and most resilient people ever, managing to hold down a home and care for the kids. They raise the future generation and used to be lifeblood of our society. They used to be celebrated, as they were the ones who built the values and thinking of the great achievers in our society. The home is the most basic institution in our society. If it is not given enough attention, society itself will be filled with garbage for humans.

[BCRanger10]

Because we live in the "modern age" of the "liberated woman" that feminists have worked SO hard for. And by that I mean convincing women that such a lifestyle would make them slaves and prisoners and that men are bumbling, chauvinistic, sex-crazed idiots. And by "convincing", I mean "lying".

[PoliceLivesMatter]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that belief whatsoever. I think a lot of men and women would definitely be into what your saying. The thing is, today many groups and people indoctrinate women into believing in something that they weren't predisposed into believing. Some women will have you believe that the "patriarchy" is oppressing women and women are victims in today's society. This can obviously cause women to retort at their male counterparts.

[archiz]

all I hear is I want to do this for someone
where is the doing stuff for you? your own personal achievements and hobbies?
I can understand the satisfaction of being in servitude of your family but you also should dedicate time to yourself your your own mental health or you re gonna crack in the end.
so maintaining a part time job is good with hobbies and all

[Androdead]

Because if he leaves you, you're nothing.
Basically, it's a great weakness.

And because some people achieve to do the same with a job than loooooots of """housewife""" who are bad at it and are just lazy girls.

[mattox]

Not entirely true... alimony, child support, half of everything and the house.

[Androdead]

Well, to me, to depend on somebody this much is being nothing.
Even if you manage to grab what's not your's, you'll be left with nothing. But hey, that's my thought.

[Mekara]

@mattox you just proved his point. Alimoney, Child Support, and half of everything are things THE HUSBAND has earned and worked for. Being a HW , you have earned nothing. And those things make you a leech.

[mattox]

@Mekara you don't think giving birth to and then raising his children, while taking care of the house as well as all his needs is worth anything? As A nanny I made 50k a year, working 4 12hr days.

When did staying home to raise children, upon mutual agreement, make a woman a leech?

Mother's are the glue that holds the family foundation together! Too many kids are being raised by strangers at daycare and schools. Making them detached, feeling unloved and empty. Mothers should be raising their kids with love, encouragement and affectation, while instilling their families religion, morals and values.
Perhaps if more women focused on the families that they willingly formed instead of themselves there would be less broken homes, drug use, depression and crime.

[Androdead]

@mattox it's not what it's worth, but what you got.
A good family is a family where both parents take care of the children equally.
So, your mother being the glue or whatever, you suggest the father can't stick with his children.
You're basically and probably thinking that over your past or what you'd have liked to live.
But face it : even if the mother has to give birth, a good husband shall help through the 9 hell month, and he should also raise the child as much as the mother.
If not, then the mother is just an object to sex and a solution to the "child problem".

If you can't see this, then you're blind.
I won't criticize over women who wants to be housewives, but they better not tell me they're better in anything, because that's often false.
And if the relationship fails, they'll have but nothing.

[mattox]

Men and women are inherently different. Women are naturally better caregivers and men better providers. Children instinctively turn to their mothers. My husband was and is still here everyday involved with our child. Do you have children or a husband? When both parents are working I suppose sharing responsibilities equally is possible simce someone other than the parents is taking on the majority of the work. Also it's more than likely that the father brings in the larger income, thus providing more than his equal share why does the mother get to slack off and still only tale half the responsibilities?

Our roles are different though, I care for the kids and inside the home as well as control all the finances while he takes care of our homes exterior after busting his ass at work.

[Androdead]

well that's some old prophecy you got there.
Woren aren't netter caregivers, and I know lots of children that won't turn to their mothers : almost the same amount of the contrary.
Why do you assume parents both working needs a 3rd person? it's absolute bullshit.
You're really twisted in your mind, but nvm, you won't understand.

[mattox]

Who would care for the child in a two income household? I was a nanny for 12 years, I've seen many different family dynamics and even if one patent worked from home there still needed to be an extra set of hands. Please if I'm so twisted in my thinking explain dynamic that goes along with your theory. it's incredibly sad of a young child does not seek their mother, she must be detached and cold or too busy working and fulfilling her own selfish needs.

[Androdead]

Of course you saw people who needed you. You were a nanny.
But there are TONS OF MILLIONS of people who won't need nanny and have a nice family.

[Androdead]

and who cares for the child? the WHOLE FAMILY.

[Anonymous]

It's not.. It's annoying when people assume that as a woman it is your only job to make your husband happy and clean. But it' not a bad thing when it's what you want. Lots of people want a stable home. Honestly I'm a city girl so that sounds boring to me, but I don't even want kids or a marriage. Everyone is different and the world would suck if we were the same. Do what ever makes you happy, screw the feminists.

[BrittBratt2416]

Cause women are the ones who want to be in charge and over the man now. Its nothing but reverse sexism. Feminist scream "women should have a choice!" But if it is a woman's choice to be a housewife, then they get looked down on.

[mattox]

Absolutely!

[Astoriana]

This sounds exactly like every MRA ever. I don't think this user is actually a woman.

[mattox]

What's an mra?

[ColoradoChick84]

It's not the 1950's anymore and you're letting your future husband treat you like a second-class citizen. Also, if he leaves you, you got nothing. You would have no or little money.

[vvn604]

Then be smart and choose a good husband. Gender-specific roles remain the same despite changing status quos. And wives actually get pretty much half of the assets if the husband does choose to legally leave her.

[Anonymous]

I agree. I graduated from uni. But i want to be a housewife too if my husband has a good job and i don't need to work. I want to take care of my children.

People think like everybody should work. But if your husband earns enough you can stay at home.

[Mekara]

Then why get a degree if you weren't gonna use it?

[vvn604]

@Mekara a few reasons. One being because everyone was getting it. Two being your parents probably wanted you to get it. Three being the fear of no man wanting you and you'll have to support yourself. Four being you need money between the time after you graduate and when you find a husband. Most places don't hire people without at least a university degree.

[mattox]

@Mekara I am stay home mom with dual bachelor degrees (child development and psychology) my education benefits my family and friends daily.
Once my kids are in grade school i do plan to re-enter the workforce.

[Warmapplecrumble]

The answer to your question is: people like to follow the crowd and criticise anyone who does not conform.

I have a BSc. I have no children and I am not married. I am a house-girlfriend

[mattox]

You do you girl! Enjoy your sleep sosk it up cuz it's all over If you plan on babies lol

[Warmapplecrumble]

@mattox I am not sure if I want children, if I pass the age of 30, I decided I will not have children.

But yes you are right :-/. I sleep a lot now lol.

[DonkeyRick69]

A lot of feminists suffer from internalised mysogny

[vvn604]

True. How can a woman respect herself if she's pretty much condemned for honouring her fundamental state of being as a female (ie. being in the kitchen cooking healthy meals on a consistent basis, giving birth, creating a nurturing environment for her husband and kids, etc.)? It's even difficult to find female friends who think the same way as you, so many conform and neglect their gender-specific roles, causing the internalized misogyny many females nowadays face. Ever heard of cranky female bosses? Well, they're doing the wrong jobs and their bodies are paying the consequences for it in the form of crazy mood swings, irrational decision making, and other things. It's a lose-lose situation to be in.

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

@vvn604 Before feminism when women had to be boreing housewives they all went insane and became addicted to Valium. You'll go stir crazy trapped in a house with kids. Then when you get divorced you'll have nothing to put on your CV and you,'all end up stacking supermarket shelf's for minimum wage, is that the life you want?

[vvn604]

@Bezbozhnikustanka You generalize too much.

[DonkeyRick69]

@Bezbozhnikustanka it is a big generalisation. Truth is nowadays most have to work. Being a stay at home parent is a major personal sacrifice but that's what marraige and kids involves dont be fooled by the feminist proppganda of the woman that can have it all.

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

You see other people's kids for 5 muinites and think "Arh! Cute! I want one", so you get pregnant, but, what you don't realise is you're going to be trsped in the house 24/7 with the mewling, pooping, pukeing little brat, you'll end up wishing you never had kids. My grandmother always used to say " You ruined your mummy's life, she was happy before you were born, you're a bad boy, you don't deserve a good mummy, you deserve to be put in an orphanage!" Children are horiable, other people's children look cute because you don't have to spend hours after hours listening to their inane babble.

[DonkeyRick69]

@Bezbozhnikustanka buddy some counselling might help those childhood traumas.

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

I saw a woman on the bus, she had 3 kids, one of whom was old enough to talk."Duck Quacks Don't Echo" fired children with cameras to see how many iritateing inane questions they ask in a day. Wouldn't you go insane listening to some stupid 3 year old asking question after question from the time he wakes up in the morning till you finally get the wretched creature off to sleep?

[Bezbozhnikustanka]

What was the point of Emily Pankhurst and Germain Greer if you're going to live your life like you're in Saudi Arabia?

[vvn604]

@Bezbozhnikustanka I see. You had a bad mother. Stop being so hard on yourself. Your next task would be to start practicing some self love. When you happen to unexpectedly meet the woman of your dreams you would want to be prepared. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. Forget about your shitty past. Take responsibility for your future. You are an adult male now. Hopefully your goal is to become a real man.

[WeAreFreaks]

Because feminists are all about the opposite of those things that you want to be. But your husband will be happy for all that. I'm saying you can't please everyone

[vvn604]

It's like women who want to be housewives need to go a little ninja about being who they at their core. It's a bit ridiculous. How are people supposed to be who they are if they can't even honour their own gender, the fundamental state of their being?

[vvn604]

who they are*