Why is being a housewife looked down upon?

[Warmapplecrumble]

I keep seeing posts stating "housewife means you are slave", "you are much more than just cooking food and doing chores".

[MrMysteryMan]

It's really ignorance and drinking the "Kool-Aid" that the feminists churn out by the gallons.

Sorry, but most housewives nowadays don't need to depend on their husband's money. Most of them can work, but choose not to because they think it's way more important to be there for their children and not some stranger you have to pay to raise your kids.

Also, it's really not that great having to go to work. You really think it's glamorous to face commuting through traffic @ shitty hours and try and do your best without little recognition from whoever the power's that be, to get a meager paycheck and then possibly, have to suck up or rub elbows with people you wouldn't be caught dead with outside of work, just to keep your stupid slave-like job, so that the people you truly love can survive comfortably?

You tell me which sounds better. Getting up with your children to enjoy time with them (and remember, at a certain age, half the day, the kids are in school and you have the house to yourselves). Not having to really worry about a schedule per say except the one YOU make for the household. Being able to eat whenever you want, watch TV if you like, chill in you PJs the whole damn day if you like, talking on the phone while you do laundry (which entails throwing dirties into an automatic washer that you set and forget for a few hours at a time, then throw wets in the dryer for another set and forget time limit, while you can do whatever the fuck you want during that time frame), throw the dirty dishes in the dishwasher (which entails another automatic washing machine that you set and forget for another few hours) and then, if you thought about it the night before or you have weekly idea of what meals to set, throw some shit in a pot, wait for it to cook, then serve. Maybe go get the kids and bring them home. While your SO comes home stressed from the commute, stressed from the boss breathing down his neck because some stupid number isn't met and his well padded pockets are 5% smaller, even though he's making 5X more. Also, they know they have to get up @ 4, 5, 6am, half drowsy, get work clothes on and drive in shitty weather, shitty traffic, to see people who act fake sometimes to you to your face @ least 80% of the year.

Hell, I think housewives have it made and the workers are the slaves.

[sara_liz77]

Haha sorry but, hanging with your kids is totally fun at first, it's not eventually. Being a housewife is NOT easy. You gotta take the kids to school, clean the house, make all meals, clean up after EVERY kid (and kids are messy) imagine if you had a little one and two older ones that would be horrible. Not to mention you've gotta care for em when their sick. That means pick up their puke, help them feel better, and in turn, you'll probably get sick yourself, but well, you can't take off because moms don't take off😂 not to mention your not working a 9 to 5. Your more like working a 7AM til midnight with driving the kids to sports, making dinner, then cleaning up dinner. It's not easy😂 and they do not have it made😂

[MrMysteryMan]

@sara_liz77 I work an 11.5 hour shift. Also, I live in Canada, so I have to go out in the dead of winter at times, driving on shitty roads at times. Yeah, it is a break at work sometimes from the kids and household chores. As well, I do love the career I have for sure. And, since I have a 2 year old girl (going on 20) and a 7 year old boy (going on 30), there is confrontation for sure and you have to be the ultimate psychologist with those two devils sometimes. But, you are actually helping individuals you love to no end, be better individuals and become people, perhaps and hopefully, better than yourself (at least that's how I see it). Yeah, they make messes everywhere and you feel like you clean up seconds after you just cleaned the same thing. As well, it gets hard at times to come up with something different or palpable for supper every day of the year for individuals (the 2 devils) that are sometimes secretly...

[MrMysteryMan]

plotting against you and daring you to make something they want to eat, even though they said it's their favorite meal every time they eat it, except this time for some fucked up reason. But they still love you and pretty much depend on you and, let's be honest, would be crushed if you weren't around. Sure, they don't make you feel like that, but they sure feel like that deep down. But work? It's the other way around. You go somewhere, where you might love what you're doing, but you are sometimes dealing with people who either want to become better than you, don't care about you, or try to squeeze more out of you, with little thanks in return. Money, sure you get money, but that is a pseudo value compared to the care and love your family truly has for you. Yeah it can feel like long hours of manual labour, but you tell that to oil rig workers or Seismic workers or say military grunts, who have to do some shitty work at times to get a "the almighty dollar"...

[MrMysteryMan]

and also, with no real guarantee that they will have that, oh so precious career, or limbs or respect, that they are almost guaranteed if they could stay at home and still get that amount of meager wage they work so fucking hard to get. Stay at home, maybe do a little laundry during the day, maybe do some cleaning, maybe wash the kids, maybe fix the steps that are falling apart, maybe fix the leaking faucet. At least you don't have to trug in a swampy forest to test a 1000 ft long pipe for cracks every 2 feet for the whole day, while you're toes and hands are frost bitten and you're probably the only one out there by yourself. Or, you don't have to lug on your 50lb military fatigue and uncomfortable helmet and boots to go BUTTFUCK god-knows to face someone who wants to torture and kill you with every fiber in their being (and viciously I might add), so you can to try and kill them first so that they don't terrorize your families way of life. Yeah, to some extent,

[MrMysteryMan]

it seems like a better life as a worker, but that's what our society and governments want us to feel. Since we are controlled and judged by the amount of money we accumulate.

[chrismarie5589]

I respect this opinion and this is exactly what I want when I indulge in some wishful thinking. Unfortunately, I get so perturbed when I think about it realistically; when you give someone power over yourself, e. g., economic power, they will eventually take advantage of you and try to walk over you (I know, it's not all the time, but the possibility is there). And what do I do if I come head to head with this situation? With nothing on my CV for years? How will I support myself?

[Warmapplecrumble]

Seems like everyone talks about the children. What about the husband? Helping him and creating a loving relationship together to get by in these hard times.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Because of feminism. it convinced women that marriage was some how evil and bad when its not. Their is a conspiracy theory that suggests feminism was created by industrialist and the government so that they could increase the number of workers, reduce wages and increase taxes because it simply doesn't make sense otherwise. To clarify, women are told that motherhood and being a housewife are bad and that this some how makes them a slave, a slave to raise their children as they want, to do basic maintenance (cooking/cleaning) while their husband worked all day. They where then told that they would be "empowered" by getting a job (you know the thing that no one wants which is why we are paid to do it because nobody likes doing menial tasks while being told how to dress how to act how to talk by some one that can destroy your life with ease) and working all the time. Its idiotically stupid as raising the next generation of human beings is kind of a big deal, its a rather important task what with the entire survival of the species and society depending on it. But that is just one idea of why this happened. All we do know that at least in the west, feminist actively fought against the family unit and tried to destroy it (their words) and since feminist control academia children are raised to believe that being a housewife and raising children is some how bad. Their could be other factors but I don't know what those would be.

[Warmapplecrumble]

I believe exactly what you said !!! So refreshing to see someone else thinking a similar way

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well I'm glad I could help. Their is a reason why traditional roles where traditional and it wasn't because it was inefficient and made people unhappy. Its just sad that most don't realize that.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Well media and world war, feminism did a great job in destroying our family unit to create more consumers

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yes, yes it did. It ruined everything, both the family unit and the relationships between men and women (not to mention their actions have resulted in broken homes and as a result broken children).

[Warmapplecrumble]

I guess it's easier to control the population if the babies get indoctrination at earlier age

[hellionthesagereborn]

Sadly yes, it is.

[Warmapplecrumble]

And I guess it helped with the propaganda of making women feel less than being housewifes. Just like they targeted smoking at women by saying its liberating.

Now the generation to come is under direct control of the Elite.

Women aren't using logic... but emotion in this. There is no benefit to them. In fact statistics have showed women are far more depressed, take days off, get more sick after being at work.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Yep. Women are also statistically happier being stay at home moms, they are statistically happier when men show them "benevolent sexism" i. e. what was originally reffered to as manners and chivalry yet they are told at a young age what they are "suppose" to want and that's a message that's difficult to ignore.

[nevermoregirl7]

People keep stating "Because of feminism", which it is to some degree.

But you have to realize, for a good long while, all a woman could be was a housewife. In the 1950's and 60's, that's all men really wanted out of their wives. So, enter "Feminine Mystique" the book that addressed an "emptiness" found in most housewives.

In the 1970's, feminism took its first huge tidal wave in equal rights since the suffragist movement. Women demanded options and to not be judged for them. This included birth control and equal pay. Then enter us millenials in the 1990's where "girl power" became any woman's national anthem. We broke some glass ceilings at this point, but we still struggle with sexism, including our own government wanting to limit our healthcare.

But to answer your one question, no, I really see nothing bad about being a housewife. I think if your spouse can support you and your family, and you want to stay and take care of your home, that is completely your decision. I have friends who are housewives. Any hate you get from that, if they claim they are feminist, chances are they aren't. Because it's about supporting women's choices. I just thought I should remind you that there was a time we really didn't have a choice.

[Nyx_85]

Actually in 1950 1 in 3 women participated in the labour force. Unless they were well off women have worked for most of human history. They may not have had exactly the same jobs as men but they have worked. Look up jobs of women in ancient times.

[Nyx_85]

The whole idea of the 'housewife' came after the industrial revolution. When we developed machines to do all sorts of things for us. Before that in most households the husband, wife and often children all worked (if they didn't work they would learn a skill or trade from their mothers or fathers) and contributed to the household. And if they weren't working to make money the duties of a woman that stayed at home were vastly more than they are today. The wives of early settlers had very busy and long days.

[nevermoregirl7]

@Nyx_85 www.khanacademy.org/.../women-in-the-1950s

Of course, before that, women were in the workforce during WWII, since men were off fighting. I was addressing feminism itself. Not women's roles as a whole. Of course women have worked since the beginning of history, but the question is based off of being a housewife.

[Nyx_85]

"But you have to realize, for a good long while, all a woman could be was a housewife."

Sorry I guess I misunderstood that statement.

[Nyx_85]

"However, even though certain gender roles and norms were socially enforced, the 1950s was not as conformist as is sometimes portrayed, and discontent with the status quo bubbled just beneath the surface of the placid peacetime society. Although women were expected to identify primarily as wives and mothers and to eschew work outside of the home, women continued to make up a significant proportion of the postwar labor force."
www.khanacademy.org/.../women-in-the-1950s

[Wonderer89]

I don't look down on housewives, but personally I think it's a bit of a waste. It's living off a mans charity which could end at any time either through seperation or him passing away. I understand taking a few years away from work, or going part time while they're young but after that it just doesn't seem like much of a life to me.
I cook for my husband almost every night. I put his lunch together every day and deliver it to his desk. We share the house work. Nothing is missed and we still have abundant time to enjoy our own endeavours and spend time with each other.
I just personally can't see why someone would want to be totally financially reliant on someone else, but that just means it's not for me 😊 For others they have their reasons and it works for them

[Warmapplecrumble]

How is it a waste?

[Oram52]

So you and your husband both work full time?

[Wonderer89]

Because there are so many opportunities for women to do pretty much anything with their lives. Choosing to only stay at home and not maintain any kind of employable skill seems wasteful to me, and dangerous in the fact that if she ever needed to find employment again it would be incredibly hard to find work with a salary enough to be self sufficient with only one job.

Yep, we both work full time

[COCOCHANEL]

would you call your job demanding?

[Wonderer89]

@COCOCHANEL it goes between crazy high pressure, stressed with long hours and relatively relaxed. Probably 70/30 split, there is no in between. I'm on call a lot and cap out my overtime hours working from home most weeks

[MrMysteryMan]

So, you rather have a stranger take care of the house and kids while you're both at work then? Is this what you're saying? Yeah, a woman I trust with all my heart, who takes care of the house and our offspring with all their heart and knows is actually involved in the finances and child rearing and what it takes so that our home doesn't fall apart while someone is trying their best to provide for our lifestyle. As well, doesn't ask for any financial gratuity in return. Yeah, what a load of garbage a housewife is. Totally unimportant. As long as you can afford to pay a stranger to raise your kids and care about your home, I suppose that's alright for you. Not for me. I trust my wife and I trust she will protect my kids and home while I'm gone. That's what a housewife is important for.

[Wonderer89]

@MrMysteryMan cool assumption there, based on nothing at all to do with me or my circumstances.
Your accolades are at war with calling housewives garbage however, seeing as I have made no comment on looking down on them whatsoever and have only spoken on my own opinions and how I have chosen to live - those must be your own views so you should be clear of that instead of trying to put them into my mouth when I haven't made any such reference.

[MrMysteryMan]

You may not have personally criticized any particular housewife, but you criticized the idea. This is indirectly putting down housewives, since you say they are wasting their time.

[Wonderer89]

@MrMysteryMan I also say I don't like big dogs because I prefer small ones and choose to have them as pets instead. That doesn't change anything for people who love large dogs and choose them as their family pet.
My opinion on what I choose and explaining that to try and help others understand my personal view has nothing at all to do with what others choose for their life and relationship. If you've taken offence to my explanation on my feelings then I'm sorry, but it doesn't change my view. Just as mine shouldn't impact your feelings to live the way you choose

[MrMysteryMan]

In that sense, you are correct.

[COCOCHANEL]

i recommend cats

[MrMysteryMan]

OK I looked over what you said with more detail, and I do agree to a point.

But from another point of view, it benefits the child that much more to have someone they fully trust around them as much as possible. At a certain point, a wife or whoever takes care of the house, has the opportunity to fend for themselves, since the kids are out of the house. As well, a person who is totally committed to just household care, I don't think is wasting their time, since they are showing devotion to the people they love. Sure, at some point, there is risk of losing your individuality, but why does work have to dictate your individuality? You can be individual and still take care of what you value most, your family. That's more empowering in my mind than feeling your worth is less because you want to take care of the people you love most.

[MrMysteryMan]

@COCOCHANEL Um, for?

[Wonderer89]

@MrMysteryMan if you'd actually re-read my post it address' understanding wanting to stay home for a few years while they're young or going part time. Once they're 6-7 they're headed to school.
And I don't understand needing 100% of your time to dedicate to the house, because personally I don't need that to cover what needs to be done, show my love through caring for my husband and work to some extent. But again, while I logically can see people being fulfilled by that, personally I'm not so the emotional desire to have all primary focus on one thing isn't particularly relatable to me

[MrMysteryMan]

And like I said, who says you can't have individuality and still be a housewife?

[Wonderer89]

@MrMysteryMan no one is saying that. You're putting your own opposing views over my actual words to make assumptions then trying to say that's what I'm referring to. I can't make my point as being personal to ME and MY life and family any clearer so I'll leave it there

[butterbiscuits]

I don't think MrMysteryMan is actually reading anything that's being said.

[Wonderer89]

@butterbiscuits I don't think that's quite fair, we just have very different views on a personal preference. Neither is wrong

[butterbiscuits]

I understand his views but his responses have very little to do with what you said.

[Wonderer89]

@butterbiscuits pretty much lol

[TuMeManques]

"I don't look down on it... but you're totally wasting your life (paraphrasing)" lol yeah there's no negative judgements there. I consider myself a stay at home mom even though I own and manage my own companies and am currently looking to start another endeavor. The reason for this is what I actually see as valuable to life, the community and the future of the world is what I do in my home. Any employee can be easily replaced, a good wife and mother is much more valuable. It's something I'd be careful not to call "a waste"

[Wonderer89]

@TuMeManques again, as I've already stated I'm explaining why I think the way I do on the question asked. It's not a judgement, I'm not pointing at anyone's choices and degrading them or saying it's wrong and that they're less for choosing it, it's my personal view that doesn't extend any further from my head in company and here because it was directly relative.
Too bad others can't do the same about views that differ from their own. With that though, however you consider yourself; it's not within the definition that most would assume when they hear housewife if choosing to make your own money and pursue that outside of the home so you're still choosing to live within the details I've put above but crying offended at the wording of it (insert passive aggressive "paraphrase")

[TuMeManques]

For I'm not crying at your wording if anything. I'm proud of my life choices and don't care one way or another what your judgements may or may not be. I didn't mean to be passive aggressive, I was trying to be somewhat polite but take it how you will.
The fact is that your statement reads very much as judgmental and in a very negative light which is obvious based on the number of people you're having to justify yourself to.
You don't want to be a housewife, fine. I just think looking down on others for that decision is, for lack of a better word, egotistical.

[Wonderer89]

@TuMeManques the number of people? You and one other, both who have cherry picked instead of seeing the overall message, including the first few words which is the entirety of the opinion I broadcast to those around me in this situation? Lol righto.
Judgement is subjective, what I've written is how I've come to the conclusion that a certain choice isn't for me. The fact you feel it's in anyway directed at you, to the extent to jump on and have a go about how judgmental and egotistical I'm being to those who choose this for themselves (please read the last paragraph again as I covered that) instead of a personal reflection that I've stated over and over just pushes the belief that there isn't a whole lot of satisfaction in it
I'm done going over this though, have a nice day 😊

[Warmapplecrumble]

I don't know about other people.

But I have learnt more skills, than I have ever learned in any other job or education field. It keeps me very busy. I found all my jobs very boring.

Furthermore, money is not really necessity - it's what it brings. If you can save time, create things or get things then money is not needed or even even necessary. The reason why we work is because we specialise in only 1 field and are unable to produce our on food.
Jobs is another topic and very long one too.

[Wonderer89]

That's great that you've found it fulfilling and it works for you and your partner 😊 It's all that matters in the grand scheme

[Oram52]

@TuMeManques " I consider myself a stay at home mom even though I own and manage my own companies and am currently looking to start another endeavor."

How can you be housewife then. You have a company but just work from home. A guy working from home doesn't make him stay at home dad. Just that you can focus more on domestic sides of things and be flexible with how you spend time on your business.

Does your husband help with chores as well, or domestic aspects and chores are your primary responsibility?

[Oram52]

@Wonderer89
When you guys have kids would you stay at home (work part-time) untill kids start primary school?

I would also want a wife who loves cooking for me but this is something on my mind too. Somebody has to take more responsibility looking after kids until they start school.

[TuMeManques]

@Oram52 I do 90% of the housework and I homeschool my kids.

[Oram52]

@TuMeManques Interesting. Is there particular reason you guys homeschool your kids?

[TuMeManques]

@Oram52 there are many many reasons. We can pm if you want to talk about it more

[Wonderer89]

@Oram52 we'll both take our paid parental leave individually, the other will return to work while one is at home for that period then once that has been fully used I'll go part time. When we decided to start a family I renegotiated my work contract for flexible hours and can work from home up to a certain number per week. Our mothers have also asked to have some time each week with any children we have so depending on how we feel about it that could also be an alternative option if I'm on a bigger project.
Unless our salaries shifted and I made more then him (we're only 10k pa difference anyway) it would be me to cut my hours to be with them but still work part time

[pusyok12]

why do you cook for husband at night? thats very weird. When you sleep lol?

[Oram52]

@TuMeManques "there are many many reasons. We can pm if you want to talk about it more"
Sure. I'd love to know reason for homeschooling :)
I couldn't pm so please feel free to pm me.

[lumos]

I don't think being a housewife is a bad thing. The mindset that being a housewife is the only thing a woman can be good at and that it's all she should do with her life - that's a bad thing.
If it's what someone wants to do with their life, then good for them. I'm happy for people who make their own choices.
The criticism is mostly coming when it's forced, though. So of course people will call it slavery if it's forced, because that's essentially what it is. If the woman has no power to choose for herself and she's forced to live a life serving a man, then clearly it's a bad thing.

[GirlThatDraws]

Its thanks to modern day feminism enxouraging women to work instead of staying at home.
there's nothing wrong with being a housewife, but peoole see it as bad because they see it as wasted potential. They think you would benefit more from having an independent job instead of being stuck in the house.

[Cammy137]

I think the feminism movement (specifically 3rd wave feminism) pushes this idea that if women have any self-respect then they should stay away from the housewife role. When in reality, if you are really a supporter of equality and women's rights then you that should also include a women's right to choose whether she wants to be a housewife or not. It's the same idea with males: being a house husband is looked down upon and seen as the guy not being man enough to "wear the trousers" in the relationship

[PoliceLivesMatter]

I think it's because people don't know what is meant by "housewife." Your definition and interpretation is different from theirs.

[Svennedude2]

I don't understand why it's looked down on. It's so respectable to take care of the kids and the home properly. The government doesn't like housewives though, because they are bad for the economy.

[PoliceLivesMatter]

Yeah, I agree.

[ThisDudeHere]

Feminists are conflicted over house wives. On the one hand it's the woman's freedom to choose but on the other ir involves submission and a lack of career.

[englisc]

I wouldn't even say it involves submission, plenty of SAHMs aren't submissive at all. That's just another feminist lie.

[Anon85]

You can thank third-wave feminists for that one.
Everything you can think of is turned into a negative for women, no matter what it is.

If a guy wants to take on the responsibility of being the provider and literally make it so that his wife never has to work another day in her life, they make it a put-down for the wife somehow. Instead of the man having to work, it's the man GETS to work, and that's keeping the woman down.

If being a housewife makes you a slave than being the main bread-winner also makes you a slave. Doing chores and making meals is just how a housewife does her portion of the work since her husband is at his job working for 10 hours every weekday. It's just division of labor, not servitude. They both do their part to maintain a healthy household.

Anything remotely resembling traditional gender roles is despised by feminists these days, and they find ways to look down on even the women who are making their own life choices and following those roles. It's remarkably un-feminist of them

[AriesMan]

Can I place some blame on the feminist movement of the 1960s and 1970s without being attacked for it? I understand how women viewed the role of at home mothers as slaves, especially when the husband had to be tended to when he arrived home from work, by this time the mother was tired as could be from all the house cleaning and chores she was responsible for during the day ON TOP OF taking care of and babysitting the children, which the father was usually not taking part in when back at home, he was "too tired"!

However, once more women were working and no longer being full-time at home mothers, you started running into problems with children growing up without active parents, parents who relied on child care services while they were working. For some children this may have not been a bad thing but for others, they were likely to get into trouble without strong role models and a mother to supervise them when they were at home.

Honestly, being a parent should be a shared responsibility and just as it has been done for ages, there needs to be an at home parent for the children to watch them, discipline them, and to indoctrinate them with good morals, something that may not be possible with child care services!

[Lochlan]

People are probably just jealous of them. On the inside, the women are thinking, "lucky bitches, how much time away from my family, interests am I spending?" And then there might be a seed or two of doubt laid down. Yes, of course women can be as intelligent, competent as men. The feminist movement was successful. If it is their prerogative to pursue lucrative interests, that's the way they want to live. However, what may be available, having a crap job that you work salary but expected to work to 12 hours in one shift at times, then never really doing what you want... that seems ludicrous to defend as a laudable way of life.

Some are telling the feminists, "shut the hell up!! We have a good thing going with this housewife thing!!" Not a bad way to have it as long as they take care of the whole 'achievement' part of the ego in their own way.

[LittleSally]

Because it implies the woman doesn't have ambition and doesn't want to work for a living.
Not saying housework and kids aren't work - they're tremendous work - this is why that work CAN'T and SHOULDN'T fall on one person... it should be a shared effort.
This is why I say working AND taking care of the kids and household is what both parties in a marriage should be doing.

[ilyas001]

It's not our job to tell women what they should do. Being a mother and taking care of there families is a honorable embition in itself. Women should be free to choose what makes them happy. If they want to be a housewife be it. If they want to become something much more. Then be it. Problem with sexist people is that they force a women into this. But a feminist corrupt her mind by ideas so she doesn't think for herself anymore. This quastions shouldn't be asked anymore. Let them do what they feel is best

[LittleSally]

@ilyas001 Feminism is designed so people WOULD think for themselves... You're obviously not talking about feminism here...
But yes, I agree every person has the right to choose...
But the Q was "Why is being a housewife looked down upon?" - and my answer summed it up perfectly...

[ilyas001]

Feminism used to be about equal rights for womens. Today it quite lost its meaning and went down it's track. Victimasition becomes a industry these days. A housewife role is looked down opon because it's the best exemple of sexist and enslavement of a women's potential , and they use it , Do you understand my point?

[Warmapplecrumble]

What I find rude is how people view it as enslavement. When it's something I always wanted to do, even as a little child.

[ilyas001]

I understand your position. Don't listen. Screw em. Do what you want

[LittleSally]

@ilyas001 I do understand your point... but feminism in many countries - and mine as well - is still about equality. If you've read my original first answer... I think that's quite clear.

Asker:
I've never seen it - not in today's society anyways, as enslavement... But some people might because unlike a man who's not usually a houseman - and works for 8-10 hours a day, a housewife works 24 hours a day...
So... you get the picture...

I mean, maybe you don't, but you will if you decide to be one in the future.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Yes I see your point, you do work longer hours as a housewife.

[torken]

Well, I guess because that IS what it used to mean right?

However, my dad works all the daggum time and my mom stayed at home, raised 3 kids, kept the house perfect, managed our finances, volunteered at our schools and church and led my sisters girl scout troop. Together, my parents were 1 fully successful person. Whats wrong with that?

I suppose our generation is so individualistic that the idea of being anything less than the "i can do it all on my own" type is compromising. The idea that you need another person in your life to do everything is a weakness to us. Doesn't have to be

[BETAOPTICS]

I sometimes wonder if being a stay-at-home anyone or working-anyone is looked down upon mainly because people who feel insecure want to reassure their own views and choices in life for themselves.

I personally do not look down upon stay-at-home wives or husbands for that matter, nor do I look down upon career driven men and women either. They are different life choices and whatever works for that person, relationship or family works. That is ultimately the ideal goal no matter the choice, what works - works; and what doesn't - doesn't..

[AnimeGopnik]

I sometimes wonder if being a stay-at-home anyone or working-anyone is looked down upon mainly because people who feel insecure want to reassure their own views and choices in life for themselves.

I personally do not look down upon stay-at-home wives or husbands for that matter, nor do I look down upon career driven men and women either. They are different life choices and whatever works for that person, relationship or family works. That is ultimately the ideal goal no matter the choice, what works - works; and what doesn't - doesn't..

[VO1D_Entertainment]

It is not. Only the RADICAL feminists and their male feminist lapdogs say so.
Being a housewife is a part of being an honorable mother. A keeper of house's hearth. The one who prepares our future - the next generation. It is natural. It is normal.

While according to radical feminists, being a slave to your employer AND (inevitably) having children at the same time is liberation :D laughable!

[Warmapplecrumble]

They don't talk about sexual abuse at work they suffer, which I have.
The boss trying to get you sacked because you denied him sex... yes of course this is very liberating

[VO1D_Entertainment]

Thank you for stating this and for exposing their hypocrisy.

[Warmapplecrumble]

You should read what some women do to get pay rise and holiday for their beloved husbands/partners.

----- always saw women flirting with the men regardless of their relationship. Giving free lap dances in the office. Must be liberating.

Furthermore, women at work means more taxes, less income for the man and less jobs for the man. Many men are dying because they are very poor. Maybe if 50 percent of the work force leaves - their will be enough jobs.

Me and my partner have noticed all the high paid positions are now women - as women are demanding the boss position due to equality.

[VO1D_Entertainment]

I have seen it myself, my boss and one female coworker, both married, get a little, little too giggly. Balancing on the edge of appropriateness.
I don't see how women at work means more taxes, but it definitely means more competition with men for the same jobs, which also hurts women who actually want to properly raise their children. My female coworkers - they have to take sick leave even when their child gets sick. It's bad for everyone - for the businesses, for the woman (overworked) and for the child (divided attention). The woman gets torn between job and children and does both of these things badly.
About super high positions, that is affirmative action which is nothing more than legalized discrimination.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Personally think women should be housewifes more.. it will benefit the family unit and both, men women more

[VO1D_Entertainment]

It's a good idea but first there needs to be a critical mass of women embracing this lifestyle, or more like - returning to it, for it to ripple real economic change, which would make it easier to sustain.
The crazy thing is that the majority of women want this, they want babies, they want family life, but they're seduced by false promises of "power" and "independence", causing all this mess.

[Warmapplecrumble]

You are absolutely correct.

Personally I feel like I as a Mother can't let my future children suffer in our current toxic civilisation - I personally feel scared for their future. I don't understand how people can just want babies and then put them in day care and feed them garbage
... and then go to a office and flirt with the manager, being a wage slave and think they have achieved some sort of freedom

I have very little faith in our current civilisation... so much needs to change to create some sort of balance with men women, nature, the world itself - ( off topic )

[Mexicoman101]

The dynamic of one man being able to provide everything needed for a wife, home, & children on a single income is increasingly impossible for people to achieve, and the economy is evolving in a way that not only welcomes feminist pulls towards women being in the workplace but actually demands it. I think for feminists its considered a less than empowering way to live, and they look down on women who do it, but for many men they just don't want the financial pressures of that lifestyle and prefer to pair with women who have a semblance of their own independence prior to uniting households with them.

[xlsScummer]

Woman have made it that way. Woman believe that they should be independent and not to rely on a man. Me personally I think it's bullshit, I believe in traditional values but of course, if my gf/wife did want to work I'd have no problem with it. But yeah woman think you're weak if you rely on a man. I see no shame in it.

[Warmapplecrumble]

Read the responses of some men who think it's equally bad

[Dme500]

Tv, old school underappreciation, and feminism.

Tv shows women as being sick of not being appreciated of the work they do. And whether thats the case with most marriages or not is irrelevant when millions of women are being told that that is how millions of women feel.

Actually being underappreciated or not being shown enough appreciation by their husbands and/or being told that what they do isn't real work was a pretty big thing back in the 20s up to the 40s and less so in the 50s up to the 80s.

And finally because of the old school stigmata that housework is demeaning work, feminism will do anything it can to keep as many women out of the kitchen as possible.

[Alan180188]

Feminism is gonna drive the human race to extinction !
soon men will turn their heads toward brothels and sex robots, a woman is a natural born mother when she does house works it doesn't degenerate her as when a man work hard to provide !
I would love to stay home and do house works and go hopping and see friends while my wife works her ass off to provide for my needs !
I can't understand the non-sense in the new logic of women these days, they think they are doing house works for free and men are using them... many men nowadays (including me) help their women in house works beside their other duties and other house works which comes under "men responsibilities" title, the problem is we stopped to complain and we paved the way for women to ride us, so now we can't complain about it !

[Nyx_85]

"Go hopping"

Gosh you have an odd idea of what housewives do with their time..

Ok then. Get up super early to make everyone their breakfast, prepare their lunches, take the school aged kids to school. Stay home with any of the younger ones and deal with their CONSTANT need to attention, their temper tantrums and always getting themselves hurt (freaking kids...) while trying to clean the entire house, do the grocery/ household shopping, make sure the bills are paid (I don't know about you but in my household my mom was in charge of finances. Sure my dad made the money but he had/still has NO IDEA how to manage it and would forget what needed to be paid), take the dog to the vet to get his shots, pick up kids after school, take the kids to swimming/ dance/ music/ sports lessons, prepare dinner, clean up the dishes after while your husband watches tv, bathe the kids, put the kids to bed, 'intimate time with husband', stay up all night with your child because he has a fever. Repeat.

[Nyx_85]

And never mind trying to break up fighting siblings or dealing with destructive children. My friend's kids have literally torn her house apart. Or children with a handicap. My friend's son has Autism AND Tourettes which cause violent outbursts. His dad can barely handle him when he gets violent. Three grown MALE security guards at the hospital had trouble controlling him. A small 9 year old boy. Try dealing with that. Being a housewife is 24/7. No coffee breaks. No sick leave. No pay. I have never known any full time moms that didn't look like they had just been swept up in a tornado 80% of the time.

[Alan180188]

@Nyx_85 being a mom is the most difficult unpaid job, no man can ever do that, we're all in the dept of our wives and moms for life, but not all men are ignorant like the one you mentioned and not all moms are angels like the ones you mentioned also... a couple should work together in everything and must agree on everything before marriage !

[Nyx_85]

I agree that they should work together and a lot of parents do not put in the real effort required. They shouldn't even have kids.

[Alan180188]

@Nyx_85 gold !

[frustratedhw]

I used to loath the "housewives" in my neighborhood. Why? I worked 50+ hours a week, maintained my house/yard on my own. I didn't have a house maid, yard guy, or "man" to help me. My downtime I just wanted to sit at the pool and read... could I? No like 5 of those catty bitches would show up and get hammered and loud at the pool. Then they'd pick at me "why are you single? Can you watch my kids so I can have some me time?" Now I live in a wonderful condo building and there are more single 30 somethings than married couples... ahhh bliss

[TuMeManques]

Oh I just hate people who find time to read too 🤔

[JDavid25]

Simply because the media has given the job a bad image, makin it out to be wives just being maids for the husbands, when of course it's much more than that.. Feminism has some type of role to play in the negative appearance of a housewife.. The Western world mostly has the sort of mindset..

[Warmapplecrumble]

Divide and conquer the family, destroy family unit - the mother, you got bunch of slaves. Early indoctrination of babies and more taxes and more workers.

[JDavid25]

LOL.. That's pretty true.. Haha..

[Warmapplecrumble]

LOL thanks :-)

[JDavid25]

Of course Warmy.. :)

[GarysSexyInjunGirl]

I personally don't see a problem with wit. I've done it for the past four years. I am now in college to go do what I want but being a housewife is a lot of fun for me. I may get a job after college or I may not. Being a stay at home wife is also being a stay at home mother and a lot of people don't realize that. Its a great thing for you and the kids. Plus my husband helps out a lot. So I'm not "a slave"

[Warmapplecrumble]

It was always my dream to be housewife as a little child ♥

[BrileyCat]

being a mother and/or a housewife is in the dna and the biochemistry of females . if no1 knew .
maybe being tougher and more honorable than being a mother/housewife is serving your country .
growing up i have been bombarded by 1000's of choices . i'm glad for the choices . who earns
what is irrelevant . as for me in college and 20 i don't want to be a mother or a housewife now .
single moms and housewives who don't earn their own money should never be objectified by ne1
you become a slave if (a) you're a bad mother and/or (b) you married an asshole .

[coralee]

It's a cultural shift. Back when feminism was first starting out being a housewife was the only thing women were allowed to do. Being a housewife as fulfilling as it may be for some is not for everyone. At the time the only way women could move outside the home was by proving they were capable at doing the things men could. We've succeeded on that front, but we now need to show that their is value in "traditional" feminine things as well. There is nothing wrong with being a housewife as long as nobody is being forced to do it.