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I don't look down upon it I in fact have great respect for housewives that are hard working.
And how can you be a slave if you chose to do all those things?
Its only the feminist who have a problem with women being a house wife. Other women dont care and most men want to find that type of traditional woman.
I wouldn't mind being a housewife/mom, but I get grief from those who can't & those who don't want to. I'm caught in the middle for thinking I would have a choice. It should be a decision between my future husband and myself.
I don't like it because I don't want to just know to bake, clean, and cook. I want to have a great career, be knowledgeable, and important.
But everyone likes different things..
That's why I don't understand why isn't there a "house husband". I mean, if the wife is good at working, and the husband likes doing the house stuff, then why not?
There are sometimes I know 3 couples like that one the husband just works less hours and makes a lot less so does all the housework the other 2 have medical conditions.
It shouldn't ever be looked down upon. Keeping a house clean, taking care of children, shopping for groceries, cooking, etc., is hard work. (Especially cleaning.)
It's also boring as shit.
I only look down on women who are shitty housewives and just lounge around and get mimosas with their girlfriends.
I'm going to be a housewife and Idgaf what anyone thinks
House wife is not allowed in the pinko, commie, liberal, feminist mantra.
its unaffordable for most men and a woman makes her self more dependent and vulnerable when she becomes a housewife
Because a housewife doesn't work, doesn't make money, does all the house chores, stays at home most days and depends on her husband's money.
Sorry, but most housewives nowadays don't depend on their husband's money. Most of them can work, but choose not to because they think it's way more important to be there for their children and not some stranger you have to pay to raise your kids. Also, it's not that great having to go to work. You really think it's glamorous to face commuting through traffic @ shitty hours and try and do your best without little recognition from whoever the power's that be to get a meager paycheck and then possibly, have to suck up or rub elbows with people you wouldn't be caught dead with outside of work, just to keep your stupid slave-like job so that the people you truly love can survive comfortably? I think housewives have it made and the workers are the slaves.
@MrMysteryMan then switch jobs with us. See if you like wasting your potential and knowledge (don't say I'm wrong, you don't use any knowledge as a house wife), cleaning all the time, and being dependent on your husband for everything.
@aaaaabbbbb Why would it be a waste of potential since you are living your life helping the people you love most reach theirs? I think women have gotten such a negative stereotype of the housewife that they fail to see how important and truly the most important job in life a housewife has. To me, I think more strong housewives are needed in society today. Than families would have views of strong females in their lives. Yeah, a working woman is viewed as a roll model, but a lot of kids aren't getting enough of that nurturing that only a woman can give them. They are growing older a lot sooner. They are stressing a lot more a lot sooner as well, since the comfort of someone they love isn't always around when they need it.
"Sorry son/daughter, mommy has a meeting to go to. I care about you, but this is important."
Yeah I probably wouldn't love being home all the time, but that's not how I'm built I suppose, mentally. I'm not a comforter as much as I am a provider I guess in my mind.
You maybe cleaning all the time, but it's more respected than the ones that are getting payed to clean as housekeepers or maids or professional cleaners. Trust me. It is expected, not something that you are demanding payment for. We are, as a couple, expected to care for our children, because of love for them. Demanding payment for something that anyone can do, to me, isn't as respected. It's just like how a caregiver, a professional care giver for someone elderly or injured is more respected than say someone who cleans carpets for a living. You're sacrificing your time for someone else. In this case, as a housewife, you are expected to be this to someone who can't take care of themselves for 16 years at least. Also, since you bore them, it is definitely not looked down upon to be the responsible adult to make sure they are taken care of. So I believe, women are getting a fucked up view of what a housewife is.
@MrMysteryMan look, you have a point. It's important to look after the kids and feminism did make that look bad, but what if I just don't want to do that, what if I want to help society in another way? I don't want to just stay at home.
From what you said ("Yeah I probably wouldn't love being home all the time, but that's not how I'm built I suppose, mentally."), I bet you wouldn't understand what I'm about to tell you: gender doesn't change us mentally that much. Sure some hormones here and there, but nothing more. Studies show that women aren't necessarily as a group more emotional, better with children, or are built mentally to stay at home. Especially not now, after humans rose above what nature made them. Some individuals are more nurturing others are not, that doesn't depend only on the gender.
I am not, thus, I don't want to stay at home, but have a career, a hard one, and invent something new.
You can't force me or anyone else into being something they're not
@aaaaabbbbb Sure, I agree about gender and nurturing and being your own person at the end of the day no matter what gender you are or what type of person you are. But, if you choose to have children, someone has to be there for them. It's pretty selfish if you want children and still want to do your own thing. That's something people really don't understand I think. You really can't have your cake and eat it too. Raising kids is a full time job in it of itself, and I would think, the most important one there is. So giving me an excuse of someone forcing you to take care of your children, instead of chasing the almighty dollar, doesn't hold much water for me, since it was a decision to have children by the woman (or whatever gender you want to call the person that bears children physically). So, I still don't understand why a housewife is thought of as someone of un-importance or lower respect, where they should be valued the most in society.
@MrMysteryMan I agree with you almost completely. Being a house wife is looked down on partly because it does waste your potential, and partly because of feminism.
What really annoys me is that the mother is the one who always have to stay at home ( I know only one family in which it's the opposite)
@aaaaabbbbb That's a societal issue that should be rectified. A man can stay home and take care of the kids as well. Just, possibly, because of how men are raised usually, this is also looked down upon and males usually feel less "manly" because of this. But, why do we define potential in by doing work in that we gain materialistically from? It seems like that's what most people are putting their worth with. I refuse to let my career (or lack there of) define me and this should be what everyone else feels about themselves. Not saying that you should contribute or shouldn't want to contribute to improving society, but being a housewife is a form of contribution to society and an noble one. Our society grows and flourishes based on the offspring we raise. If they are raised with lack of respect for their care givers or lack of care even, than what will that person become? Why should they care about society if no one cares for them? This is why there should be more value
shown to the housewife (or househusband) who is working his hardest and caring more so unselfishly that he is willing to put his/her full effort into making sure that the people who are our future educators, leaders, protectors of our society are stable and feel that they matter enough to want to care for the society they are growing up in. That is the job of a household care giver. And that position needs the best attention and is most important to the welfare of everyone's future.
@MrMysteryMan Okay, now I agree with you completely. Do you think that the way "men are raised usually" should change?
@aaaaabbbbb I think everyone should all be raised to understand the dynamics of what a family should be. A unit that re-enforces strength and integrity and care. Nevermind if it is created from a male/female core, or male/male core or female/female core. As well, every facet that contributes to the family unit, should also be respected. Or the unit will fall apart and will never show the strength and integrity and care it should.
@MrMysteryMan don't men suffer through the same things when they search for a job? Don't they have to upbring their children as well?
I suppose, but majority of the time, most men don't get into having children until they find someone to share in the beauty of it.
because spoilt and confused millenial girls. thats why. there is nothing wrong in motherhood and being a housewife for your husband and kids.
No. My mother is not a slave. It's an extreme Western idea. Being a mother at home is not bad. No one has to work. If I was a woman, I wouldn't work and I would spend my time taking care of kids, cooking and reading books :) Working can be hard. Traffic & work stress. I think women want to work because they think their rights were extorted by men for ages.
It is only looked down upon by people who are unintelligent. They have lost contact with what it means to be raised and nurtured by someone who loves you. There is nothing more noble or virtuous In my opinion.
I'd rather build a business with my spouse than without them. They're boring if they just sit all day.
Meanwhile, you still have to do housework and chores when you're single, lol.
but now you have to do it for everyone else who isn't donig any
@Mr-Kabuki Doing chores for two people is not double the amount of actual work, it's usually a minor increase in workload.
If that's what you want, that's fine, but I think you may be limiting yourself, besides nowadays it's much more difficult to have a family on one paycheck. Plus you don't learn much staying home.
Because it requires little effort and is being dependent upon a man, which among most people is considered bad.
How is it little effort?
My bad. It isn't in itself. What I mean is compared to the amount and type of working the man in such a relationship would be doing, it's easy in comparison.
My partner is a chef, I am a housewife. Everything is very similar in what we do.
Fair point. I should have made it clear that I was speaking in general terms, not universal ones.
So you think being a chef is very easy?
It's one of the hardest working jobs you can do. Sitting in a office is very easy once you learn the skills. I used to be a Quantity Surveyor.
No I don't think it's easy. I've worked with low level cooks and even their job is difficult so I know being a chef is actual work.
Then why did you state it's little effort?
I wasn't saying that it in itself is little effort. I was saying that generally speaking, being a housewife is easier than common jobs among men such as labor jobs.
How is housewife a easy job compared to other labour jobs, give me examples please.
Being a housewife is easier than: Carpentry, any job where there ia frequent heavy lifting, most union jobs such as: electrician, plumber, pipefitting and welding, etc.
I do carry 5 to 10 kg shopping 3.5 miles on foot.
I do, do DIY - fixing little things around the house.
The jobs you stated have very little women in them. Personally I've never known any female plumbers, electricians etc.
So I don't get your point how being a housewife is little effort compared to other women.
I wasn't comparing it to other women. I was comparing it to the work that the men in such relationships often do.
My mother raised 6 children whilst working a part time job on the side with no car. Little effort? My dad was gone in the army and being deployed frequently. You ever walk down the street with 6 kids carrying 10 bags of food hoping the bus doesn't miss you? I don't think so man. Being a fucking mom is hard as hell dude especially when you're struggling. My mother no longer works and we live in a nice ass house and my dad takes care of my mom now, to this day I will never question my mothers' ability to take initiative and do what must be done and hands down right now I'll tell you I could never do what she did. I'm guessing you don't have children, neither do I but my sisters do and let me tell you did ITS LIVING FUCKING HELL. Wait till you're on the other side of the fence.
I was speaking in general and broad terms. If I offended either of you I genuinely apologize. All I'm saying is that it seems to me to be generally true that in traditional relationships where a man works and a woman is a stay at home Mom, the man in such a situation does work which is more difficult than his stay at home wife.
No, you're good, I'm not here to seek safe spaces, I'm here to see other peoples opinions so don't be afraid to offend anyone. Anyways I agree with you on certain aspects, it's a really touchy subject, I think this is a matter of personal liking. People shouldn't judge in the first place if a woman wants to stay at home and take care of children, clean and do finances etc.. then so be it. That is her CHOICE and no one should shame her for it. The Sad part is women are very aggressive sometimes and they have a lot of pride in what they do this comes from feminism which is complete and utter nonsense. Anyways I get what you're saying and on certain aspects, I can agree.
Yeah I agree with the feminism thing. Modern feminism sucks. I also agree with letting women do what makes them happy without judgment. I like your attitude about offense by the way. It's a good attitude to have.
I think the world would actually spin if people could actually share their mind without being afraid of the backlash & yes it truly is sad what women are doing nowadays, I'm just hoping it's a damn trend and fades away after five years like most things, thanks for the input though glad you can actually open your mind, most people can't :).
I agree. Open communication is the number one key to relationships in my opinion. No problem man. Thank you too. I'd much rather have a discussion/debate that's honest rather than pandering.
Open mouth, insert foot
I agree with both :-) no you didn't offend, I try to understand other people - that's why I ask questions
I don't look down upon them. They living the life in my opinion.
It is the unfortunate truth. Most guys think household chores is beneath them because they believe one doesn't need any particular set of skills or the education they rightly earned. So they look down upon anyone who does does household work.
It brings no money into the house, and the jobs a housewife does, can be easily paid for by means of a maid. And a full time maid is very cheap in my country.
So a maid will make you bread from scratch,
Walk few miles to get you organic food, research what foods you should eat, pay your bills, organise events, trips, maid will also obviously clean the house and keep it spotless, she will obviously make homemade granola, custard, cakes, roast dinners, lentils, beans...
Why would I need half those things? The maid will walk miles to get organic food, and does, goes grocery shopping for you, does keep the house spotless, will make homemade food for you. The only thing she doesn't do is pay the bills and plan trips.
So you don't need healthy food?
and by the way that list was very small of what I do around the house...
And why do you want a paid maid and a working wife? Surely the money the wife spends on clothes, makeup, travelling, plus the maid, equals to one salary any ways.
Who said I don't get healthy food? "the wife spends on clothes, makeup, travelling" I would have to pay for all that by myself if she didn't have an income, if that plus a maid was equal to one whole salary, then I would go broke paying for that stuff for her. As I said, maids are very cheap in my country.
Actually I don't wear makeup, why because I don't get forced to wear it.
When I worked we spent similar amount to what my partner earns now. Actually we save more money, have more energy, feel better and have more time.
You mentioned makeup. "Actually we save more money, have more energy, feel better and have more time." Yeah, simply because your partner got a better job.
I was earning more than him, with his jobs put together.
But judging by this line "When I worked we spent similar amount to what my partner earns now" it would seem he got a better job than previously.
I understand
I think it's generally the angry feminists promulgating this message. As long as the girl is the one choosing her path in life then I think it's fine to be a housewife.
I look down on it because i can do any of those things a housewife can do. Ergo, i don't need one.
I want someone to challenge and excite me.
The modern housewife has been demonized by the radical feminist of today. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a housewife.
Everyone's choice is different. I don't look them down, I just wonder how they don't get bored at home doing the same things everyday.
The only reason I can think of is the fact the girl only for his money. I am sure guys have there reason.
I dont think it is being looked don upon, when you're married i think that the couple are a team and are in it together whether thats for cooking and what not. You share the responsibilities.
Feminists are right about this in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I hate women, but doing the dishes and chores is a big part of the patriarchal society that people need to move on from. Too antiquated for the 21st century
mostly because if I am a housewives, then I have to be dependent on my husband's money !
If those definitions of housewives are wrong, then what is the correct one?
I think it's ok to be a house wife if you have children but once they are older let's say school age I think a women should go after her goals and make some type of income to help support the family.
I'm housewife without children by choice.
Being housewife there wish but its really a great to be housewife
My boyfriend is my housewife and im proud of him :D
Dating a guy who plays video games all day is not the same thing.
Housewife is not a slave... She is half of her husband... She must treated equally
Being house man is equality looked down upon if that's any help xD
Lol. Sure as long as my husband can stay fit and work
I don't say they are looked down but being dependent for money so many times gives you awkward feeling.
Being domesticated makes people assume you have no freedom or choice to be whatever you want
Are not we all domesticated to the current civilisation,
Zero earnings and only spending. Balance sheet is hay wire.
Explain zero earnings and only spendings?
My mom is sort of a "housewife". She stays home, because she works from home... she does both
The reality is that its mostly not feasible anymore. It creates a financial hardship on the family.
Nah I don't want a feminist housewife. She believes in sexual liberation. Most likely lay up all day, fuck strangers, and do drugs.
And write about gow liberating it is on tumblr
How*
@Blake0048 Very true.
Women at work can do drugs, fuck with strangers, be feminists, and some women at work do fuc- all... I have seen this personally.
He isn't saying housewifes are feminists that do that
@Blake0048 Yes, I'm speaking specifically about "feminists" themselves. And most girls are feminists these days. So why would I desire marriage?
That's your choice Anonymous.
But what's your opinion on housewifes?
I just gave. More than likely" in today's society" the house wife will be a feminist. So a housewife is no good.
Okay then.
It is to some people, i see nothing wrong about this.
LOL... you made it a question..
Just see it every where and how negatively people look at you for it
Thats not true at all..
The truth is what you feel about it..
LOL it is not true.
When I used to do a job I hated, people praised me for it. Quantity Surveying.
When I do a job I like, housewife, people are very rude towards me and tell me of for it.
Heck my partner gets looked down because he does a chef job.
People make you feel bad, sometimes they get in your head. Emotional abuse is always stronger than physical. Why - it gets in your head.
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Women for the most part today want to be independent and not have to rely on other people.
In my opinion the housewifes is not a slave. but rather depends on the thinking of parties
Yes, I would rather prefer working women and sit home and relax, enjoy good time, and be good in bed
people have a bad image of it
Modern feminism, that's why.
It's not. Don't let any one tell you otherwise.
In Asian countries, it's common, being a housewife is not being a slave.
I have no idea, I want a woman just like that.
Nope that's not right it's all upon how your husband treats you..
She is not slay. She is the one who manages every things
in this age, progressivism is a big thing.. so, conservative cucks, try to hang on to the "past"
Personally, I want an independent woman who has a career and makes her own money
Housewives are outdated and lazy
How is a housewife lazy?
They sit around the house all day long, have no ambitions in their life, and not driven.
Not my wife. I'd be surprised to see that. She's one of the hardest working people I've ever met and she is very caring. That's what a housewife is. A care giver to the utmost quality.
@MrMysteryMan That's nice, why you're telling me this? Plus, I will not let no one live off me. I like women who have freedom, make her own money, and she's independent as well.
Freedom is working for another human being, making them rich? Being a wage slave is freedom?
No women is living off me, she must make her money
What about providing money for her during her periods, menopause, child pregnancy, labour, breast feeding days...
Why the heck I want a woman living off my money?
It's more like the money provides services... money is not necessary but what it provides is essential.
Youuuu don't have to give her money. In fact, shelter, protection and some food is all you need to provide.
That's nice. I'm modern and do not live in the past as well.
Protection? I like tomboys, and tomboys are tough. They can handle themselves
Why exactly does a woman need a man if the man can only provide her with - I don't know what - nothing?
The only people against it are feminists
My mom was one and I'm grateful for that.
A house wife isn't a slave
Because women are supposed to be dominant.