Why is it always a chubby or somewhat fat woman that says things like "men that don't do blah are immature"?

[Anonymous]

Before anyone woman decides to get offended, I decided to use the most straight forward way to describe the women I'm talking about. The term 'fat' doesn't need to be offensive, just like 'skinny' doesn't need to be offensive. I'm not going to contribute to that body-positivity nonsense that's encouraging women to gorge themselves without consequence.

Now to get to my main point, I always notice that when a man expresses preferences for women whose bodies are in shape or skinny, there is always a chubby or slightly fat woman that tries to gaslight him by saying something like "a mature man will love his wife even if she puts on weight". It's as if these women expect a man to come along and take on a liability (the woman) just to get nothing in return. What kind of deal is that? I'm sure it is very obvious that a lot of men want to be attracted to their wife, so if the wife isn't attractive and she isn't doing anything else that the man wants, then what incentive does the man have to be with her?

There are some others that don't necessarily have anything to do with chubby women. In these cases, anything that you do that is inconvenient for her will be framed in this way. For example, if a woman is overly emotional, she might say something like "a mature man can handle an emotional woman". I don't see this as anything other than reject accountability for her actions.

[Anonymous]

Are they saying that to you irl so you see what they look like or is it online and you’re just assuming things or? I’m skinny, I’ve been underweight even most of my life, but I agree with what these ”fat” or ”chubby” women say. You can’t expect your partner to always look the same as they did when you met them. It’s just the reality of life, ageing, pregnancy, menopause, medication, disease and what not. You won’t look the same for the rest of your life either. It’s just a huge turn off and very gross when someone is shallow and whine about their life partners weight or looks. I’m not saying you have to start eating yourself to death or or into my 600 lbs life, but that’s never what people like you mean. It doesn’t hit a nerve with me personally because I’m not fat, but I still get the ick from things like that and have rejected men who talk about wanting a slim or ”physically active” woman (I just obvious that they mean someone who’s skinny). I’ve even rejected men I’ve been on dates sith partly because they complemented me on how slim and hot my body was. Because I know, these are the sorts of men who’re like you.

[Asker]

People have said this to me in real life, but I've also seen it being said to others online - sometimes in videos or maybe on some clip of a show etc..

I agree with you when you say, "you can’t expect your partner to always look the same as they did when you met them." To be precise with my words, I don't expect my wife to look how she did when I met her, but I do want her to remain in shape for a long time. Whether you get the "ick" from that or not is your problem since I am telling you the truth. Would it be better if I lied or concealed this information from you? As far as I'm concerned, giving people truthful information is a good thing.

I'm not really sure why you told me you rejected men who spoke about things like that, but I'm curious. Why did you tell me that? Are you just letting me know that it's something women find off-putting?

[bunniesrcute]

why is it always chubby and short men who look for a model as girlfriend?

[Asker]

I don't know and you didn't answer my question.

[bunniesrcute]

then i dont know either

[genericname85]

because it fels better to look at someone else and talk down to them rather than having to deal with your own shortcomings. that's why they are fat in the first place. cause they don't have a history of taking accountability for themself at all.

[Asker]

As far as I'm concerned, you're correct. I'm trying to find alternative arguments.

[Twalli]

I will love my girlfriend even if she puts on weight. I do, and she did (COVID-19 cut our ability to work out). However, I probably wouldn't have started dating her if she was fat. It's just not something I find attractive.

[Asker]

That's a tough situation to be in. Do you plan on telling her about the situation?

[Twalli]

She knows, we work out.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Because fat women, as a result of not receiving the same treatment as skinny women, are able to have a more realistic view of the men they date and, as such, are more aware of healthy and unhealthy habits men being into their relationships as a result of their increasingly common low emotional intelligence.

[Asker]

I don't see how this answers the question. What does a "realistic view" have to do with their assumptions that "mature men do blah"?

What I can say is that some men actually like women that I'd call chubby or fat, and I'm guessing that these women eventually find one of those men and then assume he's mature without understanding that his preference was for women that were somewhat overweight.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

Fat women know the difference between chubby chasers and someone who genuinely likes them for who they are. Skinny women have trouble telling because people who only want them for their body will treat them better for that reason alone and that’s the way everyone treats them so they assume it’s normal. They lack the nuance that comes with being one of the many groups of social deviancy, which allows for greater critical thinking skills.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

If you just don’t like being criticized by women you don’t like, you can just say that lol

[Asker]

No, your second response was actually insightful. I'm actually surprised (I'm also surprised there is a name for the men that like these chubby women XD).

I still have reason to doubt that these women actually find men that like them for who they are - a lot of men settle for what they can get since most women have standards that exclude the majority of men. At these times, these men typically has to submit to their wives otherwise the biased western justice system will be exploited by their wives and they'll be divorced and lose a bunch of their stuff.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

You’ve been reading too many redpill boards and don’t have enough friends. I’ll leave you to it

[Asker]

Aren't you a woman though? I'm sure you've seen how manipulative the girls were at your school when you were growing up. I don't see why you're acting like what I'm saying is false and should be dismissed.

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

“I’ll leave you to it” means I’m done talking. Have a nice day, enjoy the last word

[Anonymous]

It's plenty of skinny women on my feed calling men immature. However, y'all don't listen to them because you're already trying to decide how to sleep/date them or you're not even offended that they said that, so you forget about it or overlook it. What a fat woman say is criticized more because you've already found them unhealthy and unattractive, so she should shut up and worry about herself or be grateful that she found a guy who likes her. 😒

[Asker]

I certainly don't overlook skinny women calling men immature - in fact, I was about to point out women generally since these comments about "immature men" don't just come from fat women. What I have experienced is it coming from fat women most commonly thus I pointed it out.

I'm not saying anything about fat women being grateful because people are allowed to want whatever they want, but that also applies to men. The thing I hate is that these fat women that are saying these things is that they obviously aren't restraining themselves, given their bodyweight, yet they are telling men to restrain their sexual desire, which is detestable. At the very least, start fixing yourself before trying to fix other people.

[Opinion Owner]

Does it matter if you don't want a fat woman anyway and you think they're wrong?

[Asker]

Yes it does matter, because fat women use it to gaslight people into restricting themselves. That is hypocritical, so given that a lot of women love to heap demands onto men about how they should act, demands should be heaped onto those women accordingly. Therefore, if you are a fat woman and you say junk like this that you have not and cannot verify (since it is false), then you deserve to have restrictions placed on you via the same social mechanism of gaslighting.

It also matters because I'm calling something out for the future generations of men who are likely to be brainwashed with this nonsense. Women love to act like they have compassion but then there are women like you that ask questions like the one you just asked me. I'm showing compassion for my fellow men, something that a lot of women do not show to men, even though they are very willing to give it to other women and children and animals.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay at the end of the day. You can only hold fat women accountable if you watch what they do and eat on the daily basis. The rest are assumptions based off of tests and you don't even have that unless you're a doctor. So you're assuming off of looks. Overall, it's not about taking accountability, it's about what the person will tolerate, whether in their own life or their partners. If you feel like fat women are wrong for saying that, it's your opinion. Unless doxxing her works, she's going to keep the same opinion. You and any guy who agrees with you isn't her type of guy, and she's not your type of woman. If a divorce arises from it, the people who agree, will support the person, and the people who disagree, won't. What more needs to be said? You can tell future generations your opinion, but what do you want from fat women?
What was the point of this question?
Sounds like you're fishing for validation that your view is correct.
I saw the comments you liked 👍

[Asker]

I know I have to make assumptions, but assumptions aren't necessarily bad, so I'm going to make assumptions based on physics: if you gain weight then you're burning less than you consume. Fat women that make comments like the one I pointed out are also making assumptions, including the fact that "men who do blah are immature". Why aren't you calling them out for their assumptions? You are clearly biased. I have no problem with assumptions since they aren't inherently bad - there are definitely fat people that are fat due on their own fault - but you are so focused on defending fat women that you decided to only focus on the small minority of fat women that are like that based on things beyond their control. You are biased.

Why do you keep asking these pointless questions: "What do you want from fat women?" I obviously want them to stop making these false assumptions that men that aren't attracted to them are immature. Whether she decides to listen to me or not is out of my control, like you said, but the consequences will fall on her in some form or another.

I'm also not fishing for validation, that's something a fat woman would do. I am aware that people can see who has liked different responses, so you don't need to inform me.