I laugh a little to myself when women say this (want the manly men) because I have never met or heard of this (perfect) type of guy that some women want. There is no perfect in between like this. A guy is either too on the rough side or the nice guy. There is no guy that will treat you "rough" but also be the nice guy, it's just not guys. They are either one or the other. That's just my opinion anyway and I certainly don't know any guys like this. I'm the nice guy, that has respect etc but that's just the way I am, it's not from feminism. It's just not in my nature to "treat you rough" So if my woman requested this of me, I'd try to do it to please her but I KNOW I'd be absolutely horrible at it because it's just not me.
Of course you haven't met a guy like this. Neither have any women these days. They don't exist because feminism killed them off. Most can't be this way now and the ones who could like myself choose not to. Men these days don't know how to be masculine without being an abusive asshole, but I assure you it is possible.
Men seem to have become scared to take the lead, be manly, and especially in bed, to take control and be a little bit rough.
lol they SHOULD be! That shit is NOT attractive, I am not a toy.
s for your guys who are so concerned with female please they for their own... Sadly no. I see no paucity you speak of men worrying about their partners pleasure. Thats never been a 'problem'. here's a 20:1 Male:Female orgasm ration tallying up all forms of sex acts between all kinds of partners.
Feminism is part of cultural Marxism. The real goal was to drive a wedge between men and women, to destroy the family and cause fewer white babies to be born. Other races have been affected, but that has been collateral damage. To date, feminism has been spectacularly successful in its assigned mission. I am an old-style manly man. Former soldier, dedicated martial artist, as straight as an arrow and a proud conservative patriot. I am also alone, because there came a point at which I did a cost/risk/benefit analysis of interaction with women. The modern liberated white woman did not survive the analysis. Too much angst, bullshit and legal risk (due to feminist inspired divorce law) for there to be sufficient upside to justify a 50 per cent risk of utter destruction by a divorce court. If women are unhappy with the current situation, they should take it to the sisterhood.
Man becoming less and less manly is a way more complex topic than just that with several aspects coming into play. From single mothers to societies views on masculinity to our wealth and decadence devaluing the need of masculinity.
Personally I think a man should be a man and a woman should be a woman. Masculinity and femininity is meant to complement each other (exceptions prove the rule where a man is more feminine and a woman is more masculine).
And if thats the case, then I definitely gonna treat my girl like a princess... if she treats me like a king.
Tf are you taking about. Wowen don't need men for financial security anymore and we make our own money. They can't handle that cause some of them have nothing else to offer. And the fact that most women don't orgasm from sex, you obviously don't know what your talking about if you have never squirted you never orgasm babe.
You don't know me, so how can you know if I have any idea what I'm talking about. I'm speaking from personal experience, and since you don't know my experiences, you don't know what you're talking about.
I'm stating my personal opinion, I never said I spoke for all women, but I know I speak for more women than just myself, as you can also read from some of the comments of other women on this topic.
Just coming to the orgasm, some women just cannot get to that (blows my mind too) but they exist. And its not a male thing. My sub (D/S relationship) cannot orgasm as much as me and my other girlfriends (yes girls) try.
@Scrambledagain actually all women can orgasm. One they have to emotionally or physically comfortable and be completely into the activity. All women can orgasm , it's a myth that they can't
Yeah you right... but some mental blocks are massive. Well we assume her mental blocks are massive. Because we are trying everything. it's frustrating though lol. Never encountered such a stubborn vagina in my life. But what I'm saying is that not all women orgasm easy, and it's not the other persons technique either. We getting a girl who is an expert in making women squirt and hopefully she will unlock this door (and teach me a few things) can't wait.
Feminism is also killing a few other things, -Free Speech -Due Process -The right to face your accusor -Presumption of innocence -Equality under the law -Good will between men and women -Male college sports teams -Meritocracy
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I smack my girls ass, pull her hair and call her my dirty little slut when fucking her. But other than that, we work as a team and handle everything together. Making sure we get all of our opinions heard but she still wants me to make the finale decision. Is that what you're talking about?
Then my kind are a dying breed. Now days you either get a white knight feminist, or an insecure ass hole "Alpha male" who treats girls like shit. Sorry. Then again, our choices aren't much better. There are a lot of bad women out there as well.
They use you. Or me at least. Before I met my new love, all the other girls before her were very selfish, rude, and cheated. Some used me as a rebound, which I don't believe people should do without informing the other person. Other girls used me just to flirt with. leading me on just so they can feel good about themselves. then there's the girls who were just looking for someone to leach off of. Trying to get pregnant by as many guys as possible so they'll have to pay her money. I got Lucky though, and found out what she was planning to do before I had sex with her. I only have sex when I feel like this could be my future wife. And that's when the cheating girls come in. I wanted to wait until I knew I had a girl who was wife material. That lead them to cheating on me. Showing me that, if I'm not able to have sex with them for a long time, they'll just cheat on me. So yeah. I've been with some pretty bad Women.
Alphas aren't alphas, they're insecure little girls! Our masculinity has been shadowed; the truthfulness in masculinity had endured horribly since the 3rd wave of feminism, which occurred in the early 80s. The majority of western's population instead of y'know people who are fighting for men's right also! are blind as a fucking bat! People don't have the solid bowling ball sized balls to realize! I honor those who've found theirs!
dont blame feminism for the fact that the guys you meet are submissive and unimaginative in bed. seriously thats all this take is about, just blaming your own gender for guys with good manners and guys who just dont care for rough sex. i know pleeenty of guys who love rough sex and will take control. its not rare whatsoever.
@Sara413 I've heard other women say before that men are more than happy to do what you tell them in bed. If this is really so, then it would actually mean that men are more interested in pleasing than most women really give us credit for.
Um... I'm wondering who are you having sex with? The truth is any guy can give you a rough ride but it's not always appropriate, I have a suggestion, next time you are about to get your freak on... say " baby I want it rough, pull my hair and slap my ass " I think you might get what you want ;-0
You mean like: 'I want you to treat me like a slut, manhandle me, throw me around, I love that shit.' and subsequently getting told that would be disrespectful to me? Yeah well, newsflash, that doesn't work!
Yup, this is turing into something interesting in the comment section... hilarious... but interesting.
It's one or the other: Either your a 'Manly Man' or as Arnold put it a 'Girly Man' Nothing wrong with being who you are just don't lie about it fellas. :v
I agree with a lot of this. It is possible to treat a special woman like a queen and not allow her to castrate you at the same time. Before feminazi crap, I think most men placed women above themselves but women wanted to lower themselves to being our equals. I don't get it.
You don't treat men like slaves but the society claims that the majority of women do! You can't fully tell because we as a whole have lost 14 IQ points so we're too stupid to notice!
Funny thing? For all the problems I have with feminism, I am like what you describe. But it was never feminism or ideas it pushed that did that to me. I have always found the slow and sensual and erotic to be more arousing, and I find great arousal in seeing her sexually satisfied.
The problem isn't the msg's that men internalize from "minority women" in society. Nice guys are coming from PARENTS : mom's and pussy dads that socialize their sons that way. That's what has landed me in my hell: not women telling me what to do now (I do what the fuck I want to do... prostitutes included and couldn't give a shit) but my inner core of "nice guy" was constructed because my mom told me to be this "white knight" for women, all because my dick of a father (who is also a pussy) put my mother down. So it wasn't a good place where I come from. Then women say men must change? But... changing who you are is VERY difficult. Its like me telling you to go to a job interview and telling the person that he is a dipshit because that's how people get jobs at interviews. Like it doesn't make sense... but we have to do it or else...
@Stanley23... where did I say men can't change? Where do you assume I'm crying? And where did you change? At your age you still have many lessons to learn (thanks scrambled dad). Here is a lesson: read shit properly before jumping to conclusions. It's little things like that made me get my psychology degree with distinction at university and why I know what the problems with the human psych are. It's why I know shaenielson is also wrong because her outlook isn't what causes this dilemma. It's why I also know personality disorders or personality problems are the most difficult things to treat in psychology. You can't just change overnight. You need to literally jump off the cliff that is your known world on a daily basis. But if you changed for the better: good for you.
@Scrambledagain I've ne we had a father, I had to learn how to be a man the hard freaking way. My father was never around when I've needed him. I've never had a proper male role model in my life.
But then that begs the question if Feminism is killing off the manly men then were those men really manly and true men at all? if they allowed themselves to be killed off?
As a real man wouldn't give a shit he'd just continue being who he is and not letting feminism change him as well as ignoring it to begin with.
I separate the bedroom from the rest of the relationship. In bed I will be dominant and treat you like a little slut if that is what you desire, but I'm a very sweet boyfriend otherwise who will treat you with the respect you deserve.
I'm manly as fuck! I start not to care about other people's opinions anymore as of last week. I'm starting to find my true masculinity and the society has given me a break for this because I don't see women frown upon me anymore, which is good. I am not insecure anymore, now I've started to mind my own business!
Gosh wow! Women are a lot stupider these days due to feminism; but, I honor and appreciate those who are fighting against feminism. Before the 1960s, I've bet women had better brains that women as of today! What a shame!
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I laugh a little to myself when women say this (want the manly men) because I have never met or heard of this (perfect) type of guy that some women want. There is no perfect in between like this. A guy is either too on the rough side or the nice guy. There is no guy that will treat you "rough" but also be the nice guy, it's just not guys. They are either one or the other. That's just my opinion anyway and I certainly don't know any guys like this. I'm the nice guy, that has respect etc but that's just the way I am, it's not from feminism. It's just not in my nature to "treat you rough" So if my woman requested this of me, I'd try to do it to please her but I KNOW I'd be absolutely horrible at it because it's just not me.
I disagree. I'm a nice guy (depending on who you ask), but I can be rough.
Of course you haven't met a guy like this. Neither have any women these days. They don't exist because feminism killed them off. Most can't be this way now and the ones who could like myself choose not to. Men these days don't know how to be masculine without being an abusive asshole, but I assure you it is possible.
Men seem to have become scared to take the lead, be manly, and especially in bed, to take control and be a little bit rough.
lol they SHOULD be! That shit is NOT attractive, I am not a toy.
s for your guys who are so concerned with female please they for their own... Sadly no. I see no paucity you speak of men worrying about their partners pleasure. Thats never been a 'problem'. here's a 20:1 Male:Female orgasm ration tallying up all forms of sex acts between all kinds of partners.
I am lost
Feminism is part of cultural Marxism. The real goal was to drive a wedge between men and women, to destroy the family and cause fewer white babies to be born. Other races have been affected, but that has been collateral damage.
To date, feminism has been spectacularly successful in its assigned mission.
I am an old-style manly man. Former soldier, dedicated martial artist, as straight as an arrow and a proud conservative patriot. I am also alone, because there came a point at which I did a cost/risk/benefit analysis of interaction with women. The modern liberated white woman did not survive the analysis. Too much angst, bullshit and legal risk (due to feminist inspired divorce law) for there to be sufficient upside to justify a 50 per cent risk of utter destruction by a divorce court.
If women are unhappy with the current situation, they should take it to the sisterhood.
Man becoming less and less manly is a way more complex topic than just that with several aspects coming into play. From single mothers to societies views on masculinity to our wealth and decadence devaluing the need of masculinity.
Personally I think a man should be a man and a woman should be a woman. Masculinity and femininity is meant to complement each other (exceptions prove the rule where a man is more feminine and a woman is more masculine).
And if thats the case, then I definitely gonna treat my girl like a princess... if she treats me like a king.
But she wants to be the queen not a princess
Tf are you taking about. Wowen don't need men for financial security anymore and we make our own money. They can't handle that cause some of them have nothing else to offer. And the fact that most women don't orgasm from sex, you obviously don't know what your talking about if you have never squirted you never orgasm babe.
You don't know me, so how can you know if I have any idea what I'm talking about. I'm speaking from personal experience, and since you don't know my experiences, you don't know what you're talking about.
When you go out of your way to say how feminism hurting women. And killing manly men you are Already generalizing and speaking for women
I'm stating my personal opinion, I never said I spoke for all women, but I know I speak for more women than just myself, as you can also read from some of the comments of other women on this topic.
Just coming to the orgasm, some women just cannot get to that (blows my mind too) but they exist. And its not a male thing. My sub (D/S relationship) cannot orgasm as much as me and my other girlfriends (yes girls) try.
@Scrambledagain actually all women can orgasm. One they have to emotionally or physically comfortable and be completely into the activity. All women can orgasm , it's a myth that they can't
Yeah you right... but some mental blocks are massive. Well we assume her mental blocks are massive. Because we are trying everything. it's frustrating though lol. Never encountered such a stubborn vagina in my life. But what I'm saying is that not all women orgasm easy, and it's not the other persons technique either. We getting a girl who is an expert in making women squirt and hopefully she will unlock this door (and teach me a few things) can't wait.
Feminism is also killing a few other things,
-Free Speech
-Due Process
-The right to face your accusor
-Presumption of innocence
-Equality under the law
-Good will between men and women
-Male college sports teams
-Meritocracy
I smack my girls ass, pull her hair and call her my dirty little slut when fucking her. But other than that, we work as a team and handle everything together. Making sure we get all of our opinions heard but she still wants me to make the finale decision. Is that what you're talking about?
Exactly!
Then my kind are a dying breed. Now days you either get a white knight feminist, or an insecure ass hole "Alpha male" who treats girls like shit. Sorry. Then again, our choices aren't much better. There are a lot of bad women out there as well.
Oh, bad women? Tell me more?
They use you. Or me at least. Before I met my new love, all the other girls before her were very selfish, rude, and cheated. Some used me as a rebound, which I don't believe people should do without informing the other person. Other girls used me just to flirt with. leading me on just so they can feel good about themselves. then there's the girls who were just looking for someone to leach off of. Trying to get pregnant by as many guys as possible so they'll have to pay her money. I got Lucky though, and found out what she was planning to do before I had sex with her. I only have sex when I feel like this could be my future wife. And that's when the cheating girls come in. I wanted to wait until I knew I had a girl who was wife material. That lead them to cheating on me. Showing me that, if I'm not able to have sex with them for a long time, they'll just cheat on me. So yeah. I've been with some pretty bad Women.
Alphas aren't alphas, they're insecure little girls! Our masculinity has been shadowed; the truthfulness in masculinity had endured horribly since the 3rd wave of feminism, which occurred in the early 80s. The majority of western's population instead of y'know people who are fighting for men's right also! are blind as a fucking bat! People don't have the solid bowling ball sized balls to realize! I honor those who've found theirs!
I am constantly social experimenting with my own eyes every second of each day!
dont blame feminism for the fact that the guys you meet are submissive and unimaginative in bed. seriously thats all this take is about, just blaming your own gender for guys with good manners and guys who just dont care for rough sex. i know pleeenty of guys who love rough sex and will take control. its not rare whatsoever.
Wtf did I just read? Lol
Do you ASK for what you want in bed? Most men are more than happy to give you what you want. If you want to be dominated, tell him that.
This has nothing at all to do with feminism...
@Sara413 I've heard other women say before that men are more than happy to do what you tell them in bed. If this is really so, then it would actually mean that men are more interested in pleasing than most women really give us credit for.
Um... I'm wondering who are you having sex with? The truth is any guy can give you a rough ride but it's not always appropriate, I have a suggestion, next time you are about to get your freak on... say " baby I want it rough, pull my hair and slap my ass " I think you might get what you want ;-0
You mean like: 'I want you to treat me like a slut, manhandle me, throw me around, I love that shit.' and subsequently getting told that would be disrespectful to me? Yeah well, newsflash, that doesn't work!
Yup, this is turing into something interesting in the comment section... hilarious... but interesting.
It's one or the other: Either your a 'Manly Man' or as Arnold put it a 'Girly Man'
Nothing wrong with being who you are just don't lie about it fellas. :v
I agree with a lot of this. It is possible to treat a special woman like a queen and not allow her to castrate you at the same time. Before feminazi crap, I think most men placed women above themselves but women wanted to lower themselves to being our equals. I don't get it.
I didn't realize it was the feminism that was making the men a slave to me in bed. I think this feminism is good thing then.
Only for one type of women, the women that want to treat men like slaves.
@turkishbarbie I love you!
I said it for a reason; the reason being you're fighting against feminists!
I don't treat men like slaves. I really don't.
You don't treat men like slaves but the society claims that the majority of women do! You can't fully tell because we as a whole have lost 14 IQ points so we're too stupid to notice!
@Stanley23 men and women both tend to be enslaved by their biological urges
Funny thing? For all the problems I have with feminism, I am like what you describe.
But it was never feminism or ideas it pushed that did that to me.
I have always found the slow and sensual and erotic to be more arousing, and I find great arousal in seeing her sexually satisfied.
"Guys won't do anything rough or wild in bed anymore..."
Uh... right, hon. Sure.
And yr idea of what guys USED to do in bed is based off of... what, again? hahah let's be serious for a moment, shall we.
Because you have given exactly how many arguments?
Real manly men would not allow themselves to be killed by a minority of crazy women.
Apparently many did under society's pressure.
That's me for real! I am not going to lie at all to you, women in society haven't frawned upon me at all! I am so relieved!
frowned*
The problem isn't the msg's that men internalize from "minority women" in society. Nice guys are coming from PARENTS : mom's and pussy dads that socialize their sons that way. That's what has landed me in my hell: not women telling me what to do now (I do what the fuck I want to do... prostitutes included and couldn't give a shit) but my inner core of "nice guy" was constructed because my mom told me to be this "white knight" for women, all because my dick of a father (who is also a pussy) put my mother down. So it wasn't a good place where I come from. Then women say men must change? But... changing who you are is VERY difficult. Its like me telling you to go to a job interview and telling the person that he is a dipshit because that's how people get jobs at interviews. Like it doesn't make sense... but we have to do it or else...
@Scrambledagain Buddy, I've changed and it's for the good! Now stop crying that men don't change because I am one of them.
@Stanley23... where did I say men can't change? Where do you assume I'm crying? And where did you change? At your age you still have many lessons to learn (thanks scrambled dad). Here is a lesson: read shit properly before jumping to conclusions. It's little things like that made me get my psychology degree with distinction at university and why I know what the problems with the human psych are. It's why I know shaenielson is also wrong because her outlook isn't what causes this dilemma. It's why I also know personality disorders or personality problems are the most difficult things to treat in psychology. You can't just change overnight. You need to literally jump off the cliff that is your known world on a daily basis. But if you changed for the better: good for you.
@Scrambledagain I've ne we had a father, I had to learn how to be a man the hard freaking way. My father was never around when I've needed him. I've never had a proper male role model in my life.
But then that begs the question if Feminism is killing off the manly men then were those men really manly and true men at all? if they allowed themselves to be killed off?
As a real man wouldn't give a shit he'd just continue being who he is and not letting feminism change him as well as ignoring it to begin with.
I separate the bedroom from the rest of the relationship. In bed I will be dominant and treat you like a little slut if that is what you desire, but I'm a very sweet boyfriend otherwise who will treat you with the respect you deserve.
I'm manly as fuck! I start not to care about other people's opinions anymore as of last week. I'm starting to find my true masculinity and the society has given me a break for this because I don't see women frown upon me anymore, which is good. I am not insecure anymore, now I've started to mind my own business!
I don't show my true feelings to anyone anymore and that's the sign of masculinity!
Gosh wow! Women are a lot stupider these days due to feminism; but, I honor and appreciate those who are fighting against feminism. Before the 1960s, I've bet women had better brains that women as of today! What a shame!
Feminism have put women in a bad position and you can clearly see it! If you can't see, then you're blind as a bat!
AGREED.
When a woman acts like a man, it throws the man off...
feminism isn't about equality and causes havon on societies and families/relationsjhops