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What's the Deal with MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way)? (Page 3)
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I'm somewhere between a level 0 and level 1 MGTOW.
I'd never give up hookups, way too much of a sex fiend.
I'm dubious of long term relationships, although I'm in one now and it's going frighteningly well... that said, I'm a MGTOW at heart, feminism is sexism at its finest, it's disgusting and I reject it with venom. That said, I love women.
and indeed, MGTOW is a response to the result OF feminism which as my user ID points out-is a growing NARCISSISM disorder among women. Only a pitiful fool bows to narcissism.
it also means the women who are actually equal minded, the sliver minority... are suddenly amazing and really stand out when you run across when. A rock standing out in an ocean of doubt... in a sea of entitled brats... a real person-sign me up :)
MGTOW is not wrong. In fact they are right in more ways than one.
Be honest and take a good look at society in its current state. What reason does a man have to marry anyone? None. However, he will lose a lot in it and when it ends in a divorce. Men AND women can sustain themselves today, there is no need for a partnership like in older times. Nowadays it's more of an extra thing that not everyone wants.
MGTOW guys are usually 2 types guys that have been hurt in the past by some demon spawned bitch or a guy who never tried and is afraid of women. Either way they are no threat to women.
Women should be careful with the guys they friendzone, some of those guys are far more bitter and twisted up inside than any mgtow guy.
MGTOW is for men what feminism is for women. Both movements are ugly, hateful, whiny, blaming everyone but themselves. The only true thing about them is that feminism is ruining the society. What they don't see is that MGTOW is not the solution. The opposite. They make things worse.
I'm a member of MGTOW.
I don't hate women, I just don't want anything to do with them. Women throughout a lot of stages in my life have had a negative impact on my life, from bullying me when I was small boy at school, to having a Mother who has wronged me on numerous occasions to having women play with my head and my feelings when all I wanted was a relationship.
All women have brought me is mental and emotional torment & MGTOW has shown me I don't have to tolerate this any more, it has shown me that I don't need a woman for anything and the first time in my life I feel happy, I feel enlightened, I feel liberated and I feel strong.
I wish women all the best, I wish them happiness and peace but I don't want anything to do with them and it has been two-and-a-half-years of feeling this way and my feelings of detachment from women have only grown stronger.
yeah but men will tell you you are a crazy woman hater and that "ok, more for us". noone will ask you if you were really hurt. but in my opinion its indeed very generalising to think all women are dangerous. in fact i'd say those are a minority in the global population.
I think it is like many things that begin with good intentions. It started out focusing upon self-improvement and preaching about the dangers of divorce laws and even the pitfalls of living together, and it seems to have degenerated into a woman-haters group for a majority of the adherents. They might not call it women-hating, but when you think of her as a piece of meat to be used and discarded, yeah, that's hatred.
It's a symptom of the younger generations whole attitude that they have to have everything now.
Obviously when you're bringing up a family, you can't afford big screen TVs, partying, gaming consoles, unlimited internet etc. Basically over indulgence.
So the alternative is to falsely accused women of being gold diggers who bleed you dry of your money and freedom and just choose to be single so you can basically live life as a care free kidult.
Very juvenile mind set.
its the devil
look i understand women and men both need a change
but im not going my own way im gonna follow what GOD said and
go straight for the pussy
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I'm pretty frustrated with the dating scene to the point where I speak ill of women based off of some shitty experiences... BUT
MGTOW is just gay, like super gay... like giant floppy dicks orbiting Uranus type of gay.
hahaha like this is exactly what i was thinking. Everyone has shitty experiences with the opposite sex but for a guy to go to this extreme it seems like it just means they are actually gay
I feel like I'm in the middle of level 0 and level 1.
I firmly believe that Monogamy is just unrealistic in this day and age and that women are just generally superior to men in the eyes of modern society.
It really boils down to one thing. Men who identify MGOTW... simply don't trust women anymore. They don't feel they CAN be trusted, and so just opt to remove them from their lives altogether.
MGTOW isn't just for guys who got fleeced in divorce court, nor for guys who get blown off repeatedly by women. MGTOW also exists to warn guys not to hook up with, let alone marry women. Why? Because women, and especially relationships with women, aren't worth the effort, trouble, or risk.
Question for the women: Why do you care if a certain, definable percentage of any given male population wants nothing to do with you?
We mgtow are much in a "safe space" and the money we make, only spends to ourselves. We have no woman and no children to spend it on which is great but also we put strange women like you into your places because women like you are unaware of your stupid actions and we have to remind women like you the world doesn't revolve around you!
I think on balance the people you hear talking about this movement are kind of unhinged. But there are probably some elements of it that bear consideration. My sense is that most people adopt this way of life for negative reasons. But if adopted in a more positive way, it could be of some use.
it really depends. very few do it in a contructive and true "going their own" way. most just sit in their basement building a beer belly infront of a screen and ranting online... .
@supernerd99 Fully agree. It would be one thing if they were like, "hey! We can totally have a great life having casual sex with any girl we like with zero to very low responsibilities if we never get married or move in together! Happy days!" That to me would at least be "positive" in the sense that they'd be laying out a future that could be enjoyable. But to admit you desire sex with women and then to never have it because you think somehow you'll get screwed (pun intended) seems overly pessimistic. It isn't positive to me in that it doesn't help a person achieve their actual desire (in this case sex with women).
Can we talk about the ultimate elephant in the room. If MGTOWs got their ultimate wish and got every man on board with this lifestyle, the end game would be complete extinction of our species. Who exactly is winning there? If you fear marriage, don't want it, don't want the kids, then have yourself some good old casual sex and live on. That doesn't even have to be a movement, men and women do that already, lol, but if this group wants to see real changes in laws, in society, with modern feminism, simply throwing up the hands in the air and walking away does, zero. It makes you that guy in the basement on a blog talking about how unfair life is, something we all already know anyway.
Yeah, there's really no risk of that as an endgame. Ultimately, I think their issue is that they perceive it as too difficult/costly to have sex with women. If ALL guys shared that view then it would actually become super easy since women would still want sex but no one would be having it with them. As it is, the MGTOWs basically just leave more girls for the rest of us who DO still think it's worth the effort! So no worries about the extinction of the species that way.
yup, nope, there are far too many believers in Jesus and bearing fruit to ever make that happen.
Hahaha! Not to mention far to many guys who still really want to get with girls and are willing to DO something about it! :P
Honestly, you girls must benefit from the MGTOWs since you have fewer creepers as a result.
Hahaha well just look around on gag, LOADS of level 4 MGTOW members on here 😂😂😂
Ironically, look at all of these responses: Shaming and belittling. Not a solid, reasonable argument. Not a response to any points on the article. No wonder only 20% of women between 18-30 are married.
@JPDG13 yeah..
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I'm curious though, what's it like to feel such a burn?
Nah, there's no burn, love. I can send you links to lists of male shaming tactics. They're so overused and expected now that it's water off a ducks back.
@JPDG13 are they really because they still seem to be working on you or else why would you have bothered commenting in the first place? 🤔
I always like, on new sites, to confirm my experiences I've had in the past.
Will women engage in a healthy, rational dialogue?
Will women really listen to men and hear what we have to say?
Will women be able to break out of their gynocentric programming of shaming males?
Will women offer true and real reasons why it is in a man's benefit to commit to an LTR?
Perhaps I'm being too hopeful.
@JPDG13
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You know the thing is, women do all these things for men, just not for you.
Now excuse me, there's more fun ways for me to waste my time than spending it in a pseudo-psychological discourse with a person who's obviously mentally unarmed.
They are bitter jaded men with no ability to look within themselves for the cause of their problems, so they blame women. Then they band together and get off on each others stories and reinforce their us vs the mentality. Bad news all around.
Mgtow and feminism are two sides of the same coin. groups trying to have power over one another. Most of it is bs politics. All you can do is treat people equally regardless of who they are. If more people were to just do that we'd be making larger strides toward equity.
They are all keyboard warriors but harmless pussy cats, rub their belly and they will come around lol
Well what harm can we do?
We publicly come out as mgtow - someone tells our company to fire us for being ourselves and have our livelihoods ruined
We try to have a place to talk about our struggles and share life knowledge - we get fucked with and shat on
We try to live our life how we want - we get ridiculed and shamed for putting ourselves ahead of everyone else
No mgtow has ever condoned violence. Now you can see why we can't do anything more than type, some of us can i. e you tuber mgtow on steroids, he doesn't care about anything you say because you can't harm his income. But others like sandman and tfm can't reveal there identities due to the financial status
Lol and tell that to @Rissyanne who blocked me because she had nothing more than to insult my very tiny dick and super gay sexuality
I don't know man, seems like some of these guys are so bitter they're shooting up schools.
I've heard all I need to. MGTOW's are narrow minded, divisive, conspiracy theorists, and idiots. Fine with me. No different from flat-earthers, or people that believe the government is run by lizard people. Twilight Zone material.
no, you're just a young, dumb punk who doesn't know shit. a mgtow is a man with his eyes open... usually opened by the judicial system-via divorce & custody. MGTOW is men who stand up for themselves. that's all. You on the other hand are an empty barrel making lots of noise.
@feminismisnarcissism ques twilight zone music for bitter old fuckwit.
Love the tough guy act by the way. Really shows your maturity level.
Why don't you go ahead and cut straight to the cut yourself off from society stage.
Hell, maybe since you can be so successful without women you can go ahead and board the first manned space flight to the sun. Lmao!!!
im not bitter, I'm awake and before I got serious I stole women from little dipshits like you all the time.
and who's immature? You're not even honest about your age... "100" yet somehow we all know you're either a teen or early 20s, whatever you are, you're a bag of hot air. and i suspect you learn and will learn MOST of life's lessons the hard way
@feminismisnarcissism I bet did because you're just the epitome of manliness right.
Rich, coming from the 43 year old furiously typing away on his keyboard in a fit of rage.
Done wasting my time with you.
i got a huge cock, that's all the manly i care about. the rest is filler.
I think both MGTOW and Feminism is both just bitterness at its highest form. (And this is coming from a guy who's a bit bitter himself. Haha).
I don't get it, just find a woman who isn't crazy. If someone honestly thinks that there are no good women, then the problem is in them.